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Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« on: July 16, 2012, 06:24:04 PM »
For example the Carroll loan thread. Most trustworthy news outlets are reporting it yet the thread is locked.

I'm just wondering the logic behind it.

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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2012, 06:24:55 PM »
Is there anything new to discuss or was the topic going in circles?

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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2012, 06:25:43 PM »
Is there anything new to discuss or was the topic going in circles?
BBC are reporting that Newcastle are going to improve their loan offer.

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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2012, 06:26:09 PM »
For example the Carroll loan thread. Most trustworthy news outlets are reporting it yet the thread is locked.

I'm just wondering the logic behind it.

I would assume it's because most post on it are child-like in nature.
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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2012, 06:29:26 PM »
I would assume it's because most post on it are child-like in nature.
It's unlocked now anyways so I guess this thread was pointless.

I like RAWK alot, the discussion is usually great but if the members are child like should they really be posting here in the first place?

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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2012, 06:30:42 PM »


I like RAWK alot, the discussion is usually great but if the members are child like should they really be posting here in the first place?


I'd agree with you but sadly we can't and don't do an entrance exam for new members.... ;)
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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2012, 06:30:46 PM »
It's unlocked now anyways so I guess this thread was pointless.

I like RAWK alot, the discussion is usually great but if the members are child like should they really be posting here in the first place?

Ban them all, I would.  ;)
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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2012, 06:37:11 PM »

I'd agree with you but sadly we can't and don't do an entrance exam for new members.... ;)
Can understand that, cheers for the reply anyways.

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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2012, 06:40:12 PM »
It was locked because there already was a thread and it gets unlocked if new info surfaces, which it (kinda) did. So no need for the new one.

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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2012, 08:33:44 AM »
For example the Carroll loan thread. Most trustworthy news outlets are reporting it yet the thread is locked.

I'm just wondering the logic behind it.

Sanity of the Transfer Mods.

Just how many times can it be said?  Think of the Aquilani thread?
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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2012, 08:47:42 AM »
Sanity of the Transfer Mods.

Just how many times can it be said?  Think of the Aquilani thread?
No may don't do that..

It really is not the sanity of the transfer mods. There are 2 major categories of people who read the transfer board. Those that actually read the topics, and don't say a lot, and those that feel compelled to offer single lines pearls of wisdom in response to every little minutiae of speculation. The former vastly outnumber the latter. The transfer mods' main tasks, besides stopping the site being sued, is to curb the excesses of the latter group, so that the former group can follow a topic without having to camp in the topic full time.

When a topic runs away, it means that the moderation has failed (and the posters' self-discipline) and the topic is inaccessible to all. Often locking it and letting sanity reassert itself is the best course to get it back on track.

Moderating is not just for the posters, it is to add those that read too.



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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2012, 03:54:20 PM »
It really is not the sanity of the transfer mods. There are 2 major categories of people who read the transfer board. Those that actually read the topics, and don't say a lot, and those that feel compelled to offer single lines pearls of wisdom in response to every little minutiae of speculation. The former vastly outnumber the latter. The transfer mods' main tasks, besides stopping the site being sued, is to curb the excesses of the latter group, so that the former group can follow a topic without having to camp in the topic full time.

When a topic runs away, it means that the moderation has failed (and the posters' self-discipline) and the topic is inaccessible to all. Often locking it and letting sanity reassert itself is the best course to get it back on track.

Moderating is not just for the posters, it is to add those that read too.



Indeed, although its not called a 'forum' for nothing is it? As long as the mods stop the personal abuse and the libellous claims then all other opinion should be up to the reader to read. I mean its not exactly too difficult to ignore the one liner posts and read the more thought out ones is it? There should be a general transfer thread too, again as long as nobody is being abusive or libellous then I dont see why any of the mods are getting bothered by it.

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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2012, 04:25:02 PM »
Indeed, although its not called a 'forum' for nothing is it? As long as the mods stop the personal abuse and the libellous claims then all other opinion should be up to the reader to read. I mean its not exactly too difficult to ignore the one liner posts and read the more thought out ones is it? There should be a general transfer thread too, again as long as nobody is being abusive or libellous then I dont see why any of the mods are getting bothered by it.

When it's page after page of shite it is hard to find the decent posts. I'd be one for reading the threads rather than posting in them. Take the Walcott thread for example. There's nothing in there apart from ones saying 'He's fast as fuck, but apart from that, he's shite. I don't want him.' Then there's 'He's fast as fuck, creates chances and scores a few goals. I want him.' Beyond that, there is nothing else of note in that thread.
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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2012, 11:20:55 AM »
Indeed, although its not called a 'forum' for nothing is it? As long as the mods stop the personal abuse and the libellous claims then all other opinion should be up to the reader to read. I mean its not exactly too difficult to ignore the one liner posts and read the more thought out ones is it? There should be a general transfer thread too, again as long as nobody is being abusive or libellous then I dont see why any of the mods are getting bothered by it.

It is called a forum, but the best forums both in antiquity and now have been mediated and moderated.  A forum where everyone shouts at once means that nobody is heard.  That is the problem we have here with a site that has approaching 40,000 users and recently saw it's ten millionth post.

We have a choice, we can either restrict posters' ability to post and in doing so keep the threads manageable, readable and useful as sources of information.  Or we can let everyone post and allow the thread to become a fast moving behemoth which although fun for those embedded within it is next to useless for the casual viewer.  We opted for the former.

As with all moderation decisions we would prefer it if you all self-moderated and only posted in threads on current news stories if you have new information or something that you genuinely think would be of interest to most other readers.  Many of you do, thanks very much, but unfortunately the laws of averages mean that of the 40,000 there are too many who don't.

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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2012, 12:36:06 PM »
I don't see the point of the forum myself if all threads are going to be locked.  Might as well close it and have a single topic in the LFC forum lke the "Comolli was watching Toulouse..." thread.
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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2012, 12:16:02 PM »
I don't see the point of the forum myself if all threads are going to be locked.  Might as well close it and have a single topic in the LFC forum lke the "Comolli was watching Toulouse..." thread.

Agreed, utterly pointless when the vast majority of threads are locked.

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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2012, 12:30:23 PM »
We mainly open it up to punish certain users by appointing them as transfer mods. If that pisses everyone else off in the process then it's a job well done. ;)
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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2012, 12:35:00 PM »
We mainly open it up to punish certain users by appointing them as transfer mods.If that pisses everyone else off in the process then it's a job well done. ;)
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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2012, 05:43:46 PM »
Maybe it should be a punishment. Each window, select the four users who moaned the most during the previous window about topics getting locked.

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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2012, 05:52:40 PM »
utterly pointless

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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2012, 07:04:17 PM »
Maybe it should be a punishment. Each window, select the four users who moaned the most during the previous window about topics getting locked.
Great idea ;)
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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2012, 07:08:40 PM »
Great idea ;)
thought that's what we did this time? :P
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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2012, 07:10:21 PM »
thought that's what we did this time? :P
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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2012, 08:30:36 PM »
Get back in your dungeon!

BTW, I like that msot of it is locked. I can pop in, see no player threads opened and no there is no rumblings. Much easier than having to trawl through five threads hoping to come across news in the thirty pages they've grown since the day before....only to find nothing has actually happened.

So thanks for helping my laziness.
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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2012, 09:33:59 PM »
Get back in your dungeon!

BTW, I like that msot of it is locked. I can pop in, see no player threads opened and no there is no rumblings. Much easier than having to trawl through five threads hoping to come across news in the thirty pages they've grown since the day before....only to find nothing has actually happened.

So thanks for helping my laziness.

Have to admit, I'm liking it too.  Can see that nothing has happened by all the padlocks - far better than trawling through page after page of formations.

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Re: Why lock transfer threads with a genuine source?
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2012, 11:32:19 PM »
Thanks chaps. Thats what my thinking was, keep all the shite in one place. Far easier. Saves sifting through various topics of sheer guff. Plus there is the news update sticky at the top for any (half decent) links (of which there are very few!).
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