Author Topic: Jordan Henderson (Read 188484 times)

koolkamal · « **on:** July 12, 2012, 11:10:47 PM »

Seems all Henderson topics are closed - so figured I'd create a new one.

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Rodgers: “Jordan got a wee bit of stick last year but do you know what, this is a boy who is 21 years of age.”

“He’s come here for a bucket load of money, to a massive club, with massive expectation. He’s moved away from home, he’s on his own and he has to be a world beater straight away.

“It was never going to happen. When I first saw him at Sunderland I thought ‘this kid is going to be a really good player’ – and this kid can play football.

“If he is in a certain system – in an environment which is going to help him and educate him in the game – you will see he’s a player.”

Guess we can stop moaning about him being sold.

Kopite B205 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:12:32 PM »

This lad gets a raw deal. I think he has all the necessary ability to become a fantastic player for us.

HELLRAZOR · « **Reply #2 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:13:05 PM »

Was looking for one myself

really hope he stays

high hopes for him

less pressure this season considering therell be other buys

Guz-kop · « **Reply #3 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:14:24 PM »

Very excited to see how he develops over the next 18 months. I thought he had some decent moments last year and has some quality about him

sirjames · « **Reply #4 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:15:05 PM »

Saying what people who know football already knew. Like that. Shame some of our fans arseholes.

helmboy_nige · « **Reply #5 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:16:00 PM »

Some great quotes from Rodgers there. I think he can work well in a Rodgers system. He needs to be given time and confidence.

DyingAtheist · « **Reply #6 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:16:53 PM »

Hopefully he'll be used a bit more sparingly this season and be developed as a younger player should, sounds like Rodgers is planning to use him in that vein.
Going to be a fantastic player one day, believed it when we bought him and still do.

Cpt_Reina · « **Reply #7 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:18:09 PM »

If there's one player im confident about in their transition in to a 'Rodgers team' its Henderson.

Brendan will love him.

PattoLFC · « **Reply #8 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:18:22 PM »

Glad he's staying. Be interesting to see our midfield next season.

HELLRAZOR · « **Reply #9 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:18:24 PM »

id like to see him used more in the centre

with a bit more confidence and game intelligence

he works real hard. if you go to a game youll see he covers every blade of grass

just needs to learn to be in the right place at the right time.

AisoD · « **Reply #10 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:18:34 PM »

Kid blatantly has talent. Just needs to be used in the right manner and it seems Rodgers is well aware of it.

Can't wait to see Hendo playing in a pass and move team. His technical skills are indisputable and when a player has that, there's always a big chance he'll be a success. Plus, he's got the character to succeed unlike say Downing.

BobPaisley3 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:19:44 PM »

Good news, the lad will be brilliant for us over the coming seasons. Clearly not part of the 'English shit'.

sidneyroughdiamond · « **Reply #12 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:21:24 PM »

But Tony Evans said that he's surplus to requirements ...

RyanBabel19 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:24:07 PM »

Said it since his first game, he's class and he will show it here

Camarero25 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:25:11 PM »

Really good to hear that.

CanuckYNWA · « **Reply #15 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:26:25 PM »

Quote from: DyingAtheist on July 12, 2012, 11:16:53 PM

Hopefully he'll be used a bit more sparingly this season and be developed as a younger player should, sounds like Rodgers is planning to use him in that vein.
Going to be a fantastic player one day, believed it when we bought him and still do.

I wouldnt really class him as a younger player though. He's had TWO full seasons with Sunderland and a full season with us. He is a England international and captain of the u21's. But now you are saying we should limit his playing time to develop? If anything that will hurt him and be a step backwards.

Gifted Right Foot · « **Reply #16 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:26:34 PM »

great to hear. when does he start training?

ShibbyLFC · « **Reply #17 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:26:45 PM »

Think (hope) he's gonna surprise a lot of people next season.

ShibbyLFC · « **Reply #18 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:27:49 PM »

Quote from: bored86 on July 12, 2012, 11:26:34 PM

great to hear. when does he start training?

I think our England boys are supposed to join everyone in America after the first preseason game (not sure on this though).

DangerScouse · « **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:28:27 PM »

This lad will be the proverbial dogs bollox in a few years, no doubt in my mind.

locultom · « **Reply #20 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:32:47 PM »

I think he'll make it. Strangely, whenever I read his name I read it in Kenny's voice shouting from the touchline 'Jaarrrrdan'.

kcbworth · « **Reply #21 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:32:50 PM »

Sounds good mr rodgers

justsean · « **Reply #22 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:34:57 PM »

Cracking player, cracking attitude and cracking work ethic. Delighted to read he'll be staying.

Big Red Richie · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:54:05 PM »

A 22 year old living away from home for the first time, with the massive weight of expectation and a large price tag on his shoulders is encouraged......where...
A 23 year old living away from home for the first time, with the massive weight of expectation and a large price tag on his shoulders is expendable.......allegedly

Rodgers: “~~Jordan~~ Andy got a wee bit of stick last year but do you know what, this is a boy who is 22 23 years of age.”

“He’s come here for a bucket load of money, to a massive club, with massive expectation. He’s moved away from home, he’s on his own and he has to be a world beater straight away.

“It was never going to happen. When I first saw him at ~~Sunderland~~ Newcastle I thought ‘this kid is going to be a really good player’ – and this kid can play football.

“If he is in a certain system – in an environment which is going to help him and educate him in the game – you will see he’s a player.”

Odd. All just very odd.

I can't wait till the season starts, because all of this phoney war bullsh*t is getting on my nerves.

DyingAtheist · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:55:57 PM »

Quote from: CanuckYNWA on July 12, 2012, 11:26:25 PM

I wouldnt really class him as a younger player though. He's had TWO full seasons with Sunderland and a full season with us. He is a England international and captain of the u21's. But now you are saying we should limit his playing time to develop? If anything that will hurt him and be a step backwards.

I'm saying he shouldn't be a nailed on starter for every single game. We shouldn't be afraid to rotate him a bit more, let him control some minnows in the Europa League.

Garstonite · « **Reply #25 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:00:18 AM »

I wish we had more people I had as much confidence in as I do with Henderson.

amir87 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:03:11 AM »

Not worried about Henderson at all. If Rodgers wants us to play his style of football then Henderson will be a major influence on that over the next couple of years.

G a r y · « **Reply #27 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:03:15 AM »

Shame he got so much stick from some of our knobhead fans. Thought we may have learnt our lesson after seeing what Lucas has become.

DavidNgog90 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:04:49 AM »

Quote from: Big Red Richie on July 12, 2012, 11:54:05 PM

A 22 year old living away from home for the first time, with the massive weight of expectation and a large price tag on his shoulders is encouraged......where...
A 23 year old living away from home for the first time, with the massive weight of expectation and a large price tag on his shoulders is expendable.......allegedly

Rodgers: “~~Jordan~~ Andy got a wee bit of stick last year but do you know what, this is a boy who is 22 23 years of age.”

“He’s come here for a bucket load of money, to a massive club, with massive expectation. He’s moved away from home, he’s on his own and he has to be a world beater straight away.

“It was never going to happen. When I first saw him at ~~Sunderland~~ Newcastle I thought ‘this kid is going to be a really good player’ – and this kid can play football.

“If he is in a certain system – in an environment which is going to help him and educate him in the game – you will see he’s a player.”

Odd. All just very odd.

I can't wait till the season starts, because all of this phoney war bullsh*t is getting on my nerves.

It's not odd. Henderson can play football, Carroll can not. Henderson suits the system, Carroll does not.

MolbyLovesGravy · « **Reply #29 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:06:15 AM »

Good, was getting worried we were going to throw all the babies out with the bathwater. Henderson is never going to be a superstar, highlight reel player, but he can be an absolutely vital part of our team.

Fanxxxxtastic · « **Reply #30 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:08:47 AM »

Quote from: Big Red Richie on July 12, 2012, 11:54:05 PM

A 22 year old living away from home for the first time, with the massive weight of expectation and a large price tag on his shoulders is encouraged......where...
A 23 year old living away from home for the first time, with the massive weight of expectation and a large price tag on his shoulders is expendable.......allegedly

Rodgers: “~~Jordan~~ Andy got a wee bit of stick last year but do you know what, this is a boy who is 22 23 years of age.”

“He’s come here for a bucket load of money, to a massive club, with massive expectation. He’s moved away from home, he’s on his own and he has to be a world beater straight away.

“It was never going to happen. When I first saw him at ~~Sunderland~~ Newcastle I thought ‘this kid is going to be a really good player’ – and this kid can play football.

“If he is in a certain system – in an environment which is going to help him and educate him in the game – you will see he’s a player.”

Odd. All just very odd.

I can't wait till the season starts, because all of this phoney war bullsh*t is getting on my nerves.

Spot on! I'm sick of all this nonsense too.

rowan_d · « **Reply #31 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:11:07 AM »

Quote from: DavidNgog90 on July 13, 2012, 12:04:49 AM

It's not odd. Henderson can play football, Carroll can not. Henderson suits the system, Carroll does not.

You're getting on my nerves now

red vinyl · « **Reply #32 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:12:21 AM »

Lucas Leiva anyone,same expectations..Lets hope he develops the same way.

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #33 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:15:22 AM »

Quote from: Fanxxxxtastic on July 13, 2012, 12:08:47 AM

Spot on! I'm sick of all this nonsense too.

Except, you know, it's not applicable at all. But yeah, so much nonsense i agree there though we'd probably disagree on what is nonsense and what isn't.

DavidNgog90 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:16:07 AM »

Quote from: rowan_d on July 13, 2012, 12:11:07 AM

You're getting on my nerves now

They are both completely different situations. Replacing Jordan with Andy doesn't make it applicable to him.

Big Red Richie · « **Reply #35 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:26:12 AM »

My point was, all of the excuses(poor choice of word) and scenarios Rodgers is using for Jordan, equally apply to Andy.

Without fully assessing both players or having seen them play for the club, one of them is talked up, whilst one of them is talked down*

* ( depending if Rodgers words were deliberate, or just mischeviously taken out of context by the press)

I have no beef with either player, as both did alright last season, both without setting the world alight, yet both could blossom if given the right encouragement and guidance by their new manager - who - I'm not critisising either.

I just find it odd that two players with virtually identical scenarios are treated completely different, before he's even see them play, in the flesh

Anyway. This is a Henderson thread, so sorry for digressing.

Carry on.

hugoboss · « **Reply #36 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:29:50 AM »

Quote from: Big Red Richie on July 12, 2012, 11:54:05 PM

A 22 year old living away from home for the first time, with the massive weight of expectation and a large price tag on his shoulders is encouraged......where...
A 23 year old living away from home for the first time, with the massive weight of expectation and a large price tag on his shoulders is expendable.......allegedly

Rodgers: “~~Jordan~~ Andy got a wee bit of stick last year but do you know what, this is a boy who is 22 23 years of age.”

“He’s come here for a bucket load of money, to a massive club, with massive expectation. He’s moved away from home, he’s on his own and he has to be a world beater straight away.

“It was never going to happen. When I first saw him at ~~Sunderland~~ Newcastle I thought ‘this kid is going to be a really good player’ – and this kid can play football.

“If he is in a certain system – in an environment which is going to help him and educate him in the game – you will see he’s a player.”

Odd. All just very odd.

I can't wait till the season starts, because all of this phoney war bullsh*t is getting on my nerves.

Isn't it clear he just doesn't rate Andy and would rather get someone else in, and in the same vein thinks Henderson has a lot to give to his team

malaujai · « **Reply #37 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:30:24 AM »

Always hear that Henderson is actually very very good technically and has a ton of tricks up his sleeves, but I think his confidence and mentality weren't right during the season and we never really saw it. The lad seems to have the engine and physicality already, but maybe a boost in confidence and change in mentality/playing system will unlock all the talent underneath...

banksybanks · « **Reply #38 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:31:50 AM »

Trouble nowadays is everyone (or a lot of people at least) expect, or even demand, instant results.You can't buy someone for the future (Henderson, Carroll, Lucas), you can't buy someone who is carrying an injury and say 'they've signed for 4/5/6 years, not 6 months' (Aquilani, Carroll), if there aren't instant results, people don't want to know anymore.

Henderson will come good as he matures, just as Lucas did.
Carroll would probably do the same given half a chance.

Even Aquilani would have been a 'decent' player at worst for us if he hadn't been sent out on loan and written off as a poor Rafa signing.

Camarero25 · « **Reply #39 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:32:10 AM »

Quote from: Big Red Richie on July 12, 2012, 11:54:05 PM

A 22 year old living away from home for the first time, with the massive weight of expectation and a large price tag on his shoulders is encouraged......where...
A 23 year old living away from home for the first time, with the massive weight of expectation and a large price tag on his shoulders is expendable.......allegedly

Rodgers: “~~Jordan~~ Andy got a wee bit of stick last year but do you know what, this is a boy who is 22 23 years of age.”

“He’s come here for a bucket load of money, to a massive club, with massive expectation. He’s moved away from home, he’s on his own and he has to be a world beater straight away.

“It was never going to happen. When I first saw him at ~~Sunderland~~ Newcastle I thought ‘this kid is going to be a really good player’ – and this kid can play football.

“If he is in a certain system – in an environment which is going to help him and educate him in the game – you will see he’s a player.”

Odd. All just very odd.

I can't wait till the season starts, because all of this phoney war bullsh*t is getting on my nerves.

Wouldn't say it was odd. Rodgers appears to see one of them as more important to his squad than the other.