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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1120 on: July 10, 2012, 02:28:09 PM »
Anyone heard anything about Maxi being let go. Apparently he is asking to be released to go to Newell.

According to Reuters journalist @fczyz, Maxi had a meeting with Liverpool an hour ago, and now close to signing for Newell.

Some Argentine journalist tweeted that he had been released about an hour or so ago. FWIW. Haven't a clue as to reliability of said journalist.
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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1121 on: July 10, 2012, 02:30:16 PM »
I don't think a DM should be a priority. We have enough central midfielders, and although none of them are the sort of player that naturally anchors the midfield like Lucas does, I'm sure they could do the job in Rogers' playing style. Allen and Britton aren't exactly Lucas-esque enforcers, but Rogers' style of having the team press and having so much of the ball meant it wasn't really necessary. I'd rather see us give Henderson and Shelvey more games in the middle, and spend our money on attacking wingers.   

Or we sign someone who can play as a DM and cover for other positions, someone like Vernon Anita can cover DM and left back, so we could sell Spearing / Adam and let Robinson go out on loan for experience., would be a great signing IMO

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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1122 on: July 10, 2012, 02:31:15 PM »
Or we sign someone who can play as a DM and cover for other positions, someone like Vernon Anita can cover DM and left back, so we could sell Spearing / Adam and let Robinson go out on loan for experience., would be a great signing IMO

I would like this. I also think Ajax wouldn't demand a major fee either.
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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1123 on: July 10, 2012, 02:31:45 PM »
If we're letting a few players go, 3 or 4 improvements is not enough to get top 4 in my honest opinion especially if most the players we are linked with are not world class.

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« Reply #1124 on: July 10, 2012, 02:32:11 PM »
Been in the offing for ages.

Love Maxi and everything but he is one huge wages. And fairplay if he's willing to take a paycut to go back home and play regular football. Pity a few others in the squad don't feel the same.

Agreed. I think Maxi's really good, but at his age and how much he's likely to play this season I believe he's on a massive wage (80k or 90k wasn't it?). I don't particularly want to see him go but freeing up those wages for a younger player could be a good thing.

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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1125 on: July 10, 2012, 02:35:14 PM »
Can only echo the thoughts on Maxi. He's gave us a good three or so years, but he's getting on and wants to move back home. Wish him all the best, leaving on good terms  :champ
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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1126 on: July 10, 2012, 02:38:42 PM »
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@Josh_Laff_ we (me and my ‪#mole‬) now believe ‪#dempsey‬ has legs. he has offers from ‪#abroad‬ as well as ‪#lfc‬ but interest is not B.S.


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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1127 on: July 10, 2012, 02:39:51 PM »
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@Josh_Laff_ we (me and my ‪#mole‬) now believe ‪#dempsey‬ has legs. he has offers from ‪#abroad‬ as well as ‪#lfc‬ but interest is not B.S.



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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1128 on: July 10, 2012, 02:39:54 PM »
Would be perfectly satisfied with Dempsey.

Goals, and for a reasonable price. What's not to like.

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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1129 on: July 10, 2012, 02:39:59 PM »
If Maxi goes, we do need to bring someone in right?

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« Reply #1130 on: July 10, 2012, 02:40:59 PM »
If Maxi goes, we do need to bring someone in right?

Ramirez/Dempsey replacing Kuyt and Maxi, with Bellamy, and Downing still here too. That sounds good to me!
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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1131 on: July 10, 2012, 02:41:46 PM »
Ramirez/Dempsey replacing Kuyt and Maxi, with Bellamy, and Downing still here too. That sounds good to me!

If anyone needs replacing its Downing.

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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1132 on: July 10, 2012, 02:42:01 PM »
Would be perfectly satisfied with Dempsey.

Goals, and for a reasonable price. What's not to like.

I agree, if he does come I would be interested as to where we would use him, as he can play a number of different positions.

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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1133 on: July 10, 2012, 02:42:03 PM »
Would be perfectly satisfied with Dempsey.

Goals, and for a reasonable price. What's not to like.

A bad first touch, and crap acceleration.

Though seeing where we are, I will take him, we need someone to score goals, anyone.
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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1134 on: July 10, 2012, 02:43:07 PM »
A bad first touch, and crap acceleration.

Though seeing where we are, I will take him, we need someone to score goals, anyone.

Never stopped him scoring goals.

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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1135 on: July 10, 2012, 02:43:27 PM »
A bad first touch, and crap acceleration.

Though seeing where we are, I will take him, we need someone to score goals, anyone.

Sounds just like Kuyt in his prime.  For that reason im in.

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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1136 on: July 10, 2012, 02:43:50 PM »
If we're letting a few players go, 3 or 4 improvements is not enough to get top 4 in my honest opinion especially if most the players we are linked with are not world class.

That have to be good but not necessarily world class.

Bruno Soriano as a DM and we're probably half way there
Steven Jovetic coming off the left and we'd already be better

Both very good but not world class.


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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1137 on: July 10, 2012, 02:44:26 PM »
If Maxi's gone, I hope his wages go to someone who's an upgrade. I'm sick to death of losing quality players and replacing them with those who aren't good enough to play for us, or those who just aren't ready to play week in, week out for us, like how Hendo just wasn't ready to replace Meireles in the first team.

Dempsey and Borini for Kuyt and Maxi makes some sense I suppose, and we could do a hell of a lot worse, but Dempsey's age makes me think he's unlikely because he's not too far off Maxi or Kuyt in terms of age.
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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1138 on: July 10, 2012, 02:44:37 PM »
Ramirez/Dempsey replacing Kuyt and Maxi, with Bellamy, and Downing still here too. That sounds good to me!
I thought the Ramirez link is dead.

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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1139 on: July 10, 2012, 02:45:13 PM »
Perhaps Dempsey is viewed as a cheap option to come in and do a job for 2yrs whilst our youngsters like Sterling and Suso get established.

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« Reply #1140 on: July 10, 2012, 02:45:39 PM »
I thought the Ramirez link is dead.

Not sure, remember Jenkins saying there's concrete interest though.
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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1141 on: July 10, 2012, 02:46:56 PM »
Perhaps Dempsey is viewed as a cheap option to come in and do a job for 2yrs whilst our youngsters like Sterling and Suso get established.

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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1142 on: July 10, 2012, 02:47:35 PM »
A bad first touch, and crap acceleration.

Though seeing where we are, I will take him, we need someone to score goals, anyone.

From what I've seen of him I've never noticed him having a bad first touch. He's always looked reasonably quick to me.

Dempsey/ Borini in for Maxi/ Kuyt doesn't look too bad to me.

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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1143 on: July 10, 2012, 02:48:30 PM »
Not sure, remember Jenkins saying there's concrete interest though.

He's just retracted that and said he was wrong.

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« Reply #1144 on: July 10, 2012, 02:56:57 PM »
He's just retracted that and said he was wrong.

Ah my mistake.  :)
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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1145 on: July 10, 2012, 02:57:12 PM »
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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1146 on: July 10, 2012, 02:57:53 PM »
Is anyone else slightly worried about te fact that if we get Borini and Dempsy, and they are a part of our front 3 with Suarez, that again this year we have a bunch of work horses but very few very skillful players? (this is based on people saying Borini is a worker like Kuyt)

Hopefully we will ad creativity in midfield, but still a front 3 of Suarez-Borini-Dempsy looks like a forward line of people who are there to do a job whilst Suarez provides most of the creative outlet.
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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1147 on: July 10, 2012, 03:00:03 PM »
Dempsey/ Borini in for Maxi/ Kuyt doesn't look too bad to me.
So if we get, say Sturridge in for Andy and with Lucas being like a new signing, that should be enough to get us back in the top 4 would you say?
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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1148 on: July 10, 2012, 03:06:07 PM »
Surely Dempsey would have to be partly to do with marketing

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« Reply #1149 on: July 10, 2012, 03:11:06 PM »
So if we get, say Sturridge in for Andy and with Lucas being like a new signing, that should be enough to get us back in the top 4 would you say?

To be honest, unless we spend massive money (and we won't) it's going to be very difficult this season anyway. Add a back up/partner to Lucas as well as Sturridge, Dempsey and Borini and we'd have a decent chance though.

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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1150 on: July 10, 2012, 03:11:48 PM »
Kind of wish we'd hijack the De Jong deal. I reckon Suarez, Carroll, De Jong, Borini would be a fantastic strike force for us.
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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1151 on: July 10, 2012, 03:12:22 PM »
Is anyone else slightly worried about te fact that if we get Borini and Dempsy, and they are a part of our front 3 with Suarez, that again this year we have a bunch of work horses but very few very skillful players? (this is based on people saying Borini is a worker like Kuyt)

Hopefully we will ad creativity in midfield, but still a front 3 of Suarez-Borini-Dempsy looks like a forward line of people who are there to do a job whilst Suarez provides most of the creative outlet.

Suarez --- Jovetic-----Borini

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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1152 on: July 10, 2012, 03:14:36 PM »
Is anyone else slightly worried about te fact that if we get Borini and Dempsy, and they are a part of our front 3 with Suarez, that again this year we have a bunch of work horses but very few very skillful players? (this is based on people saying Borini is a worker like Kuyt)

Hopefully we will ad creativity in midfield, but still a front 3 of Suarez-Borini-Dempsy looks like a forward line of people who are there to do a job whilst Suarez provides most of the creative outlet.

I'd be hoping that we'd use Dempsey as a squad player personally, and hopefully we'd get someone a bit more exciting for the first choice "3". Could be stretching our budget a bit though.

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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1153 on: July 10, 2012, 03:16:58 PM »
I'd be hoping that we'd use Dempsey as a squad player personally, and hopefully we'd get someone a bit more exciting for the first choice "3". Could be stretching our budget a bit though.


Oh I completely agree with you, but is certainly mot out of the realms of possibility that Dempsy is being bought as first choice
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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1154 on: July 10, 2012, 03:18:31 PM »
I'll be gutted if Maxi goes, honestly. I love the little fucking Adam Sandler lookalike. My favourite player of the last few seasons, when he was at atletico and when he came here. If it's true, good luck to him.

And to be honest, I think if Carroll is let go, that will be a mistake too. Gut feeling selling him now will come back to bite us on the arse in the future.
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« Reply #1155 on: July 10, 2012, 03:20:02 PM »
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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1156 on: July 10, 2012, 03:21:49 PM »
Would be perfectly satisfied with Dempsey.

Goals, and for a reasonable price. What's not to like.

Didn't you see the tweet from WhoScored, he has the 3rd worst conversion rate(11.6%) in the league, just ahead of Suarez(9%) and vd Vaart(10.8%).

Just what we need from a forward.
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« Reply #1157 on: July 10, 2012, 03:25:00 PM »
Didn't you see the tweet from WhoScored, he has the 3rd worst conversion rate(11.6%) in the league for a forward, just ahead of Suarez(9%) and vd Vaart(10.8%).

Just what we need from a forward.

You can bend stats to suit any argument. I could say "look at all the goal scoring chances he's getting in to if he's scoring 20 odd goals with a conversation rate of just 11.6%".

Regardless of his 'conversion rate' he scored 20 odd goals last season.

And that is just what we need from a forward.

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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1158 on: July 10, 2012, 03:25:06 PM »
Didn't you see the tweet from WhoScored, he has the 3rd worst conversion rate(11.6%) in the league, just ahead of Suarez(9%) and vd Vaart(10.8%).

Just what we need from a forward.
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Re: General Transfer Discussion Take 3 - Take care!
« Reply #1159 on: July 10, 2012, 03:27:11 PM »
So if we get, say Sturridge in for Andy and with Lucas being like a new signing, that should be enough to get us back in the top 4 would you say?

Can't see how, it's going to be insanely competitive this season and thus far no one we've been seriously linked to is the credible creative threat required.

Need someone new for the left, not clint fucking dempsey either.

Is anyone else slightly worried about te fact that if we get Borini and Dempsy, and they are a part of our front 3 with Suarez, that again this year we have a bunch of work horses but very few very skillful players? (this is based on people saying Borini is a worker like Kuyt)

Same old, same old, when we're struggling to break sides down there'll be a unanimous acceptance of the notion that we really do need a second top level match winner, then the window will roll around, we'll be linked with ricardo vaz te and he'll instantly be the answer to all our problems.
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