Topic: Manchester United agree a fee to sign Arsenal's Robin van Persie

[steveeastend]

What kind of a sick person is he?

Very sick.

[Malaysian Kopite]

Mr. Ferguson has revealed Manchester United have hit a brick wall in their attempts to sign Robin van Persie from Arsenal.

Ferguson revealed on United's recent tour of South Africa United had made a bid for last season's Premier League Golden Boot winner.

The Red Devils interest seems to have fended off competition from Manchester City and Juventus.

However, Arsene Wenger has never sold a player to United.

And, from Ferguson's comments to reporters following Wednesday night's penalty shoot-out defeat to Barcelona in Gothenburg, it doesn't appear he wants to start now.

"We have made a bid and they've been trying to negotiate with other clubs," said Ferguson.

"I don't have a gut feeling on it at the moment, I must admit.

"We're not getting any breakthrough with Arsenal.

"It's difficult to say why they're operating this way.

"I don't know what their thoughts are because they're not giving anything away."

There had been rumours circulating prior to Wednesday night's game that Van Persie was heading to Manchester for a medical.

It seems they were wide of the mark.

"I can't give you any more information," said Ferguson.

"We just have to persevere.

"We are trying our best and hopefully it will come our way but there's no progress at this moment in time."

It was the second transfer blow of the day for United, who discovered prior to kick-off that Brazilian midfielder Lucas Moura had joined cash-rich Paris St-Germain.

Ferguson was keen to sign the teenage midfielder from Sao Paulo and remained in Manchester at the weekend when his team headed to Norway "to do some business".

The clearest indication Moura was looking elsewhere was that Ferguson jetted out of Manchester prior to Brazil's Olympic semi-final win over South Korea on Tuesday night, when the midfielder was an unused substitute.

It seems United simply could not compete with PSG's Qatari-backed spending power.

Following the huge purchases of Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Thiago Silva, Ferguson stated the world had 'gone mad'.

"I find it quite amazing that a club can pay 45million euros for a 19-year-old boy," said the Scot.

"To tell everyone that PSG are here they've signed Thiago Silva and Zlatan Ibrahimovic. They must have spent about £150m in the last month.

"The only deterrent to that is UEFA.

"In the conditions of European football, you don't qualify for Europe by winning the league or coming second - you only get in by invitation.

"That's where, hopefully, UEFA can have some power.

"When somebody's paying £45m for a 19-year-old boy you have to say the game's gone mad."


http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/7974600/Fergie-persevering-with-RvP

[vagabond]

The entire damn thing deserved to be bold.

[givemekaliber]

One of the points He's complaining about, is Arsenal not selling to united. Two points on this.
Why would they want to sell their best player to one of their main rivals?
The transfer of Heinze springs to mind.

[Zlenpasha]

He's really the biggest hypocrite out there.
Precious.

[Rob K]

He's really the biggest hypocrite out there.
Precious.

30m Euros on Anderson, when he was 19.

[Cpt_Reina]

If he does move, Van Persie will be painted as the villain in this. But this is Arsenal's own making.

If you make no progress and show no ambition to do any better than 4th place every season then your best players will leave. What's keeping him at Arsenal? The opportunity to not win anything for the 7th season in a row?

The writings been on the wall for an entire year too. He's basically given them a year to try and sort themselves out and prepare for him leaving. This isn't like Torres putting in a transfer request on deadline day in January.

Van Persie has given them plenty of notice and he delivered on the pitch right up until the end.

Simple truth is Arsenal have had little to no forward momentum, or even attempt at forward momentum, for too many years now. And this is the ramification.

[kilgore]

The writings been on the wall for an entire year too. He's basically given them a year to try and sort themselves out and prepare for him leaving.

In that year we came third in the league and have spent close to 40 mil on proven international players. He's spent that whole time talking about how much he loves the club and has then come out and attempted to divide the fanbase and stabbed the manager in the back.

He's very clearly a shit bloke. The hilarious thing is he probably won't win a thing at United. He says he's oh so concerned about the direction of the club well they also have owners who won't invest in the team but at least ours aren't swindling the club while they're at it.

[MagicHat]

In that year we came third in the league and have spent close to 40 mil on proven international players. He's spent that whole time talking about how much he loves the club and has then come out and attempted to divide the fanbase and stabbed the manager in the back.

We did but hardly called be a season of great progress, we were never close to pushing for anything and needed Van Persie to help claw back on an imploding Spurs. We looked in a vulnerable state going into this summer and certain issues still haven't been addressed.

Or he gave an explanation about why he wants to leave the club.

He's very clearly a shit bloke. The hilarious thing is he probably won't win a thing at United. He says he's oh so concerned about the direction of the club well they also have owners who won't invest in the team but at least ours aren't swindling the club while they're at it.

I don't know the man, can't comment on his moral character. Certainly not going to try to character assassinate him.

I would think Man U have more chance of winning things then we do.

[Crosby Wych]

He's very clearly a shit bloke. The hilarious thing is he probably won't win a thing at United. He says he's oh so concerned about the direction of the club well they also have owners who won't invest in the team but at least ours aren't swindling the club while they're at it.

Is this the yearly "United are finished" bollocks?

[Ziltoid]

Is this the yearly "United are finished" bollocks?

No, I think it's "United won't win a thing" post

[HighSix]

We are going to have to wait for Ferguson to retire before United stop challenging at the very top.

[evie]

We are going to have to wait for Ferguson to retire before United stop challenging at the very top.

Sadly I can only see him retiring when he either a) has won 5 or 6 European cups or b) dies

[liverpooll]

We are going to have to wait for Ferguson to retire before United stop challenging at the very top.

Another myth. Remember how everyone thought that when Ronaldo leaves, Man Utd are finished. Turned out very differently.

Irrespective of a single name, the team Man Utd are always going to be at the very top

[HighSix]

Another myth. Remember how everyone thought that when Ronaldo leaves, Man Utd are finished. Turned out very differently.

Irrespective of a single name, the team Man Utd are always going to be at the very top

Agree if they improve their squad of course but this squad now I dont think any other manager in the league could get them to finish as high, as much as I dislike him he is a level above everyone else.

[scatman]

Sadly I can only see him retiring when he either a) has won 5 or 6 European cups or b) dies

hopefully it's neither and he resigns at the end of this season as they finish 6th or 7th (wishful I know)

[tonysleft]

I don't think he'll end up joining us, not for one second. Expect him to join City with a late u-turn or maybe to end up at Juve.

[ScouserAlec]

Think he will end up at United, cant see him at City and Juve seem to be closing in on Llorente.

Shame we havent got the money to go after him, and not in a postition to interest him.

[Passmaster Molby]

We are going to have to wait for Ferguson to retire before United stop challenging at the very top.

Aye but the fucker will go to his grave before he catches Bob's Hat-trick of European Cups.

Can see him sat in his retirement home watching the football:

"Nurse, I'm cold, get me a blanket"

"The Paisley one Mr Ferguson?"

"Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh - thud"

[Pyro]

Amazing that Ferguson is pretty frustrated about Arsenal being stubborn over Van Persie. Weren't we put through the same crap when we were trying to sign Heinze?

Hope Van Persie ends up anywhere except United.

[youll never walk alone it]

If he does sign for the twats  it could easily go wrong, huge fee for a 29 year old, but taking comfort from his injury record also.

[steveeastend]

He's really the biggest hypocrite out there.
Precious.

He should just fuck off, seriously. He was one of the first who started this..

Wenger does exatly what you would expect from a big club, never sell to one of your competitors..

[Phil M]

"When somebody's paying £45m for a 19-year-old boy you have to say the game's gone mad."[/b]

I'd have to agree with him.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8094720.stm

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Hypocracy

[nyctex]

would be funny if Van Persie does move and Arsenal has their Instanbul moment in the CL and RVP is their Owen

[Bakez0151]

Another myth. Remember how everyone thought that when Ronaldo leaves, Man Utd are finished. Turned out very differently.

Irrespective of a single name, the team Man Utd are always going to be at the very top

doubt it, it takes one shit manager.... as a liverpool fan you should know that

of course their financial status and their lure means its more unlikely, but the manager is crucially important to a teams success

hopefully they get moyes after ferguson fucks off, almost a guarantee

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[AM76]

"We're not getting any breakthrough with Arsenal.

"It's difficult to say why they're operating this way.

Yes you drunken dickhead - pretty similar to the way you behaved when we wanted to sign Heinze, you know, deliberately not selling us to him even though he wanted to come and were going to pay a good price for him 

[kilgore]

No, I think it's "United won't win a thing" post

Almost. It was the "United probably won't win a thing" post

And lets not get it twisted here. Winning things is a bonus for these c*nts. Main thing is the money. Hilariously it seems as if United are willing to offer him more money than City. I suppose that makes some sense when you compare Welbeck, Hernandez, Macheda and Berbatov to Tevez, Dzeko, Balotelli and Adebayor.

[Mr Rossi]

Yes you drunken dickhead - pretty similar to the way you behaved when we wanted to sign Heinze, you know, deliberately not selling us to him even though he wanted to come and were going to pay a good price for him 

This.

[Mr Rossi]

Man Utd are always going to be at the very top

Thats not necessarily true. A couple of poor appointments once demento goes and it could be curtains for them.

[stevieG786]

Arsenal would rather sell to United over City no?

[Mr Rossi]

Arsenal would rather sell to United over City no?

No, I dont think they would to be honest. I think everyone has been waiting for either Barca or City to make a bid and it just hasn't come.

[Nick110581]

I hope he says at Arsenal.

[thegoodfella]

If he does move, Van Persie will be painted as the villain in this. But this is Arsenal's own making.

People in glass houses and all mate.

[rafathegaffa83]

Amazing that Ferguson is pretty frustrated about Arsenal being stubborn over Van Persie. Weren't we put through the same crap when we were trying to sign Heinze?

One rule for him, another for everyone else in his mind.

[Cusamano]

I hope they make him rot in the reserves for a year.

[kates bush]

What has made Robbie Earle so sure that Van Persie wants to join Man United? Has he said anything about it?

Why are people making out that Ferguson is the injured party in this? It seems quite obvious that Wenger would be reluctant to deal with Man U, should it be a case what Alex wants Alex gets? Hmm I am not so sure.

[MagicHat]

What has made Robbie Earle so sure that Van Persie wants to join Man United? Has he said anything about it?

Most journalists seem to believe Van Persie has rejected Juve and Man City. Depends how much you trust the journalists to be truthful and how much you trust their sources

Why are people making out that Ferguson is the injured party in this? It seems quite obvious that Wenger would be reluctant to deal with Man U, should it be a case what Alex wants Alex gets? Hmm I am not so sure.

Nobody is making him out as the injured party as far as I can see.

[kates bush]

Nobody is making him out as the injured party as far as I can see.

So then you haven't seen ESPN's Presspass then.

[MagicHat]

So then you haven't seen ESPN's Presspass then.

Nope. Ok shouldn't have said nobody but general impression I have got from the press is neutrality or mocking Ferguson's hypocrisy