Author Topic: Mark Davies (Read 26497 times)

Twelfth Customer · « **Reply #80 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:06:28 PM »

Quote from: graaf_x on June 30, 2012, 08:01:14 PM

We really need to aim for players, who would be guaranteed starters. Under Rafa we had very good first eleven, but were threadbare on the bench. Now it's the opposite. Why can't Adam, Henderson, Downing, Carroll be our squad players? There is no need to bring Mark Davies, because we already have players of his calibre in place. Go and buy a partner for Lucas instead.

Some might argue we already have 3/4 partners for Lucas. The bigger question is who do we have to cover for Lucas?

G1 Jockey 4(betfair) · « **Reply #81 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:06:58 PM »

he is a bit like henderson but less of a headless chicken
havent seen enough of his defensive game but im sure he wont get wrong side as often as adam or just stand there once back like henderson.

G1 Jockey 4(betfair) · « **Reply #82 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:07:57 PM »

Quote from: Twelfth Man on June 30, 2012, 08:06:28 PM

Some might argue we already have 3/4 partners for Lucas. The bigger question is who do we have to cover for Lucas?

sorry dont agree with that.
jay is a decent dog of war but really we need to improve a bit there.

for me gerrard should not be playing there let alone adam.

Twelfth Customer · « **Reply #83 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:07:58 PM »

Quote from: Red Genius on June 30, 2012, 08:05:10 PM

Centre forward

As long as he's not related to Kevin Davies, we should be good to go.

Twelfth Customer · « **Reply #84 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:10:46 PM »

Quote from: G1 Jockey 4(betfair) on June 30, 2012, 08:07:57 PM

sorry dont agree with that.
jay is a decent dog of war but really we need to improve a bit there.

for me gerrard should not be playing there let alone adam.

Think Jay is a lot better then your implying. As for Gerrard, I agree he cannot hack it in the middle in the fast paced rough and tumble of the Premier League. Hendo and Adam can both fill that role. Lets not forget, before Lucas got injured Adam had his most inspired spell for us.

Anywhichwayucan · « **Reply #85 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:11:33 PM »

He'll be at Newcastle next season.

Clonsilla Red · « **Reply #86 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:14:40 PM »

Signing Mark Davies for me would be up there with getting Hodgson as our Manager. Middle of the road, average, not good enough.
please for the love of god NO.

Red Genius · « **Reply #87 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:16:52 PM »

Quote from: Clonsilla Red on June 30, 2012, 08:14:40 PM

Signing Mark Davies for me would be up there with getting Hodgson as our Manager. Middle of the road, average, not good enough.
please for the love of god NO.

You're a fan then?

Rafas the man · « **Reply #88 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:19:30 PM »

Would rather him than Spearing.

Z e u s · « **Reply #89 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:22:00 PM »

Underwhelmed!

Red Genius · « **Reply #90 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:23:20 PM »

Quote from: Z e u s on June 30, 2012, 08:22:00 PM

Underwhelmed!

Takes a lot to please you to be fair though mate.

Fordy · « **Reply #91 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:25:04 PM »

Quote from: Twelfth Man on June 30, 2012, 08:06:28 PM

Some might argue we already have 3/4 partners for Lucas. The bigger question is who do we have to cover for Lucas?

BR at his other clubs didn't really play with a DM. It will be interesting to see if he does at Liverpool.

It will mean Lucas pushing up a bit and not always being behind the CM player/players.

El_Pistolero · « **Reply #92 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:26:36 PM »

Quote from: Fordy on June 30, 2012, 08:25:04 PM

It will mean Lucas pushing up a bit and not always being behind the CM player/players.

No it won't, really. Leon Britton hardly ever crossed the half-way line from what I recall.

ShadyCraig · « **Reply #93 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:26:49 PM »

Can't believe someone's started a thread about this bloke, we are fucked if there is any truth in this so I would rather not think about it to be honest

Red Genius · « **Reply #94 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:27:11 PM »

Quote from: Fordy on June 30, 2012, 08:25:04 PM

BR at his other clubs didn't really play with a DM. It will be interesting to see if he does at Liverpool.

It will mean Lucas pushing up a bit and not always being behind the CM player/players.

To be fair Lucas has enough composure on the ball to have more responsibility than just act as a ball winner.

Redeo · « **Reply #95 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:28:51 PM »

Quote from: bornandbRED on June 30, 2012, 06:35:33 PM

I'll trust BR's judgement on this one. If he thinks he can do a job for a decent price then I'm fine with that. Not every player will be a superstar.

True, but it would be nice to have one marquee signing nevertheless.

momo22 · « **Reply #96 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:29:33 PM »

Quote from: lfcmaster on June 30, 2012, 07:28:21 PM

I have seen mark Davies play well against Liverpool so I have no worries he will be a good option

Someone probably said the same thing about Downing.

Z e u s · « **Reply #97 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:30:25 PM »

Quote from: Red Genius on June 30, 2012, 08:23:20 PM

Takes a lot to please you to be fair though mate.

It doesn't.

Reina, Kelly, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Coates, Enrique, Robinson, Lucas, Henderson, Gerrard, Bellamy, Sterling, Suso, Maxi, Suarez all please me.

Carroll is also beginning to please me.

If we want a centre midfielder, they either have to be clearly better than what we have or back up to Lucas - Davies is neither of these.

Dubit10 · « **Reply #98 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:32:28 PM »

Hard to believe this is the type of player we would be after. I call bulls hit.

Red Genius · « **Reply #99 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:32:32 PM »

Quote from: Z e u s on June 30, 2012, 08:30:25 PM

It doesn't.

How about a champions league winner finishing second in the league

JOKING... I know you fall at that hurdle.

So what areas of the squad would you like to see someone come in before a central midfielder?

stardorman · « **Reply #100 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:32:51 PM »

He'd be a great signing at a good price.. He'd be a massive improvement
on Spearing.. Could spell the end for Adam if true.

Red Genius · « **Reply #101 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:35:03 PM »

Quote from: stardorman on June 30, 2012, 08:32:51 PM

He'd be a great signing at a good price.. He'd be a massive improvement
on Spearing.. Could spell the end for Adam if true.

To be fair though mate what we need is somebody that will spell the end of Aquilani's and Cole's careers here before Spearing and Adam, provide a real alternative to Lucas or Gerrard.

stardorman · « **Reply #102 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:38:10 PM »

Quote from: Red Genius on June 30, 2012, 08:35:03 PM

To be fair though mate what we need is somebody that will spell the end of Aquilani's and Cole's careers here before Spearing and Adam, provide a real alternative to Lucas or Gerrard.

If Gylfi decides us 2mo.. Aqua could be off to Bologna as part of the
deal for Ramirez who then in turn would put Cole in prime position
for Big Sam to bring him home.

Fordy · « **Reply #103 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:38:35 PM »

Quote from: stardorman on June 30, 2012, 08:32:51 PM

He'd be a great signing at a good price.. He'd be a massive improvement
on Spearing.. Could spell the end for Adam if true.

Read the thread.

Z e u s · « **Reply #104 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:39:14 PM »

Quote from: Red Genius on June 30, 2012, 08:32:32 PM

How about a champions league winner finishing second in the league

JOKING... I know you fall at that hurdle.

So what areas of the squad would you like to see someone come in before a central midfielder?

YAWN, sorry YNWA.

I think we have four areas we can improve:

- Back up to Lucas.
- A Clinical striker
- Improving the attacking wide players
- A top class partner for Lucas, which would mean Gerrard can play higher up the field. However if Rodgers wants him deeper and to partner Lucas, then we might need a better attacking midfielder (like Sigurdsson).

Depends how Rodgers wants to do it.

But I can't see how Davies improves us.

MassDriver · « **Reply #105 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:40:44 PM »

He is not an improvement on the likes of Henderson and Spearing who play a similar role. Decent player but nothing more. Somehow don't see the bigger clubs lining up for his signature. Not exactly what we need. Would be an unnecessary purchase.

Fordy · « **Reply #106 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:41:18 PM »

Quote from: El_Pistolero on June 30, 2012, 08:26:36 PM

No it won't, really. Leon Britton hardly ever crossed the half-way line from what I recall.

But he wasn't deep laying either.

That's the point Lucas was be pushed up a bit - not saying he will be doing Gerrard runs into the box but he might not be as deep as has been.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #107 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:41:30 PM »

Vastly underrated player who I have wanted here for ages. Great pass and move player who is criminally misused at Bolton. Perfect player for Rodgers approach

Fordy · « **Reply #108 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:43:41 PM »

Done with this.. Don't believe the link.

Red Genius · « **Reply #109 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:51:13 PM »

Quote from: Fordy on June 30, 2012, 08:43:41 PM

Done with this.. Don't believe the link.

I don't either mate.

zip · « **Reply #110 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:56:13 PM »

He's 24 and still plays for Bolton. Enough said.

Red Genius · « **Reply #111 on:** June 30, 2012, 08:57:01 PM »

Quote from: zip on June 30, 2012, 08:56:13 PM

He's 24 and still plays for Bolton. Enough said.

Not really... Matt Le Tissier? - Drogba anyone?

Cochise · « **Reply #112 on:** June 30, 2012, 09:02:16 PM »

Some of you make me laugh. If the lad was called Marco Davisinho and the thread had a youtube clip of him you'd be made up. By all accounts from a few Bolton lads I know he's rated very highly. How about if he comes we like get behind him.

Col · « **Reply #113 on:** June 30, 2012, 09:02:33 PM »

I like Davies. I think he suffered more than most as a result of Holden and Lee's injuries, as he was expected to dominate games more and he doesn't seem to be that type of player.

He's technically good, good on the ball, creative, and is capable of driving forward through the middle like Gerrard used to, and Adam often tries to do.

He's be a good option to have in games where we're trying to break teams down, or when teams come and park the bus. I've banged the drum for about 3 years now about not having players who are confident enough to drive forwards and overload the next line of formation (or, drive forwards into progressive zones, for the I-play-FM kiddies out there) with the ball at their feet. Johnson does it from right back, but apart from him the only person who looks to provide overloads with the ball at their feet is Daniel Agger. As I've said, Adam tries to occasionally but his decision making once he gets there is poor.

For a few million quid, I wouldn't turn it down.

ShibbyLFC · « **Reply #114 on:** June 30, 2012, 09:08:13 PM »

Quote from: stardorman on June 30, 2012, 08:38:10 PM

If Gylfi decides us 2mo.. Aqua could be off to Bologna as part of the
deal for Ramirez who then in turn would put Cole in prime position
for Big Sam to bring him home.

hoping this happens.

Twelfth Customer · « **Reply #115 on:** June 30, 2012, 09:11:00 PM »

Quote from: Fordy on June 30, 2012, 08:25:04 PM

BR at his other clubs didn't really play with a DM. It will be interesting to see if he does at Liverpool.

It will mean Lucas pushing up a bit and not always being behind the CM player/players.

Who covers in the centre of the pitch? Please say 'they all do' (as in player closest observes Lucas or X has gone forward creating space and that he will need to fill in).

Cochise · « **Reply #116 on:** June 30, 2012, 09:11:12 PM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/aDoqVUqzZ3w" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/aDoqVUqzZ3w</a>

As someone said, a bit like Yossi after a few pans of Scouse

Acaustiq · « **Reply #117 on:** June 30, 2012, 09:13:23 PM »

Quote from: Pelts on June 30, 2012, 09:02:16 PM

Some of you make me laugh. If the lad was called Marco Davisinho and the thread had a youtube clip of him you'd be made up. By all accounts from a few Bolton lads I know he's rated very highly. How about if he comes we like get behind him.

Quote from: Acaustiq on June 30, 2012, 01:23:44 PM

Evidently not enough embarrassment was generated last year by this particular brand of nonsense.

Chalky Boots · « **Reply #118 on:** June 30, 2012, 09:13:23 PM »

Quote from: Fordy on June 30, 2012, 08:25:04 PM

BR at his other clubs didn't really play with a DM. It will be interesting to see if he does at Liverpool.

It will mean Lucas pushing up a bit and not always being behind the CM player/players.

Leon Britton never went forward, he sat and dictated play. It allowed Joe Allen to then get forward frequently and support Sigurdsson.

It was always retrospective to Swansea's dominance, but he'd never be any closer than 35-40 yards out, which is pretty much what Lucas was doing in games we were dominating.

Sangria · « **Reply #119 on:** June 30, 2012, 09:13:58 PM »

Quote from: Pelts on June 30, 2012, 09:02:16 PM

Some of you make me laugh. If the lad was called Marco Davisinho and the thread had a youtube clip of him you'd be made up. By all accounts from a few Bolton lads I know he's rated very highly. How about if he comes we like get behind him.

I don't know enough of him to have any opinion about him, except that he plays in an area where we are numerous, but then it's a matter of whether or not he's better than our available options, and that I don't know enough about. However, I do know that "English" and "PL experience", especially when backed by the argument that foreign players are too affected by their national teams to give their all for Liverpool, is a proven rubbish argument given our experience.