Author Topic: General Transfer Discussion v2 (READ THE RULES OR SAY GOODBYE) (Read 152291 times)

BarnsleyScouser · « **Reply #1640 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:31:11 PM »

Can't believe more people don't rate Dzagoev on here, i think he's potentially a world beater and already is a good player at 22.

mb1111 · « **Reply #1641 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:32:01 PM »

Quote from: Nicky English on July 2, 2012, 05:28:16 PM

Thanks for your opinion. It was expertly expressed.

What is someone meant to write in reply to crap like you only dont rate him because he's been linked with Spurs? And he bossed the euros?! That'd be the Euros where they only won one game and went out in the group stage right? Yeah he bossed it alright! He scored some goals in fairness to him but boss the Euros he certainly didnt. He's decent but has gone backwards over the years if anything, nothing in him stands out.

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #1642 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:32:04 PM »

Quote from: Nicky English on July 2, 2012, 05:25:45 PM

Didn't know about his contract situation, but the suggestion that he isn't good is laughable. Before he became dead cert to be a Spurs player, and before he was a dirty manc whom we didn't want anyway, Gylfi was enjoying a RAWK wide wankfest. At the same time Dzagoev was bossing the Euros at 22.

No he wasn't. Scored a few tap-ins and that was it.

Nicky English · « **Reply #1643 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:38:23 PM »

Quote from: Bob Loblaw on July 2, 2012, 05:32:04 PM

No he wasn't. Scored a few tap-ins and that was it.

Tap ins?

Screamer against the Czech, and a neat header against the Poles. Was the only Russian to not completely check out after the first game. Had a great tournament. The fact that we crashed out in the groups had nothing to do with his performances.

cezred · « **Reply #1644 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:38:52 PM »

Quote from: BarnsleyScouser on July 2, 2012, 05:31:11 PM

Can't believe more people don't rate Dzagoev on here, i think he's potentially a world beater and already is a good player at 22.

He has the potential to be exactly that. I always favour those players who seem to have that extra half a second on the ball. Those types that take their time and tend to choose the right option more often than not. You can never be sure how a player will turn out but Dzagoev has as good a chance as any of making that step up to that 'World class' level.

Renato · « **Reply #1645 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:41:22 PM »

Dzagoev is a pretty good player but the Euros made him look like this world-beater that he isn't.

robbie keane · « **Reply #1646 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:44:04 PM »

Quote from: Nicky English on July 2, 2012, 05:25:45 PM

Didn't know about his contract situation, but the suggestion that he isn't good is laughable. Before he became dead cert to be a Spurs player, and before he was a dirty manc whom we didn't want anyway, Gylfi was enjoying a RAWK wide wankfest. At the same time Dzagoev was bossing the Euros at 22.

He wasn't, he put his chances away well but was not bossing anything. He looks a tidy player but would come with a big risk factor and a large transfer fee, we can not afford to make any more mistakes in the transfer market, it is killing us.

El_Pistolero · « **Reply #1647 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:46:22 PM »

Quote from: robbie keane on July 2, 2012, 05:44:04 PM

He wasn't, he put his chances away well but was not bossing anything. He looks a tidy player but would come with a big risk factor and a large transfer fee, we can not afford to make any more mistakes in the transfer market, it is killing us.

It wouldn't be a large transfer fee, and if it was just wait 6 months and get him on a free. I've not seen him much but he looks tidy, a gamble I'd certainly like us to take.

Y2J · « **Reply #1648 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:46:57 PM »

People are forgetting the fact that Dzagoev has just six months on his contract, which means he won't move for what he really is worth. He is a tidy player and I think Spurs will get a coup by buying him.

Anyway, this is a time killer, think I might do something better.

Nicky English · « **Reply #1649 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:49:55 PM »

Quote from: robbie keane on July 2, 2012, 05:44:04 PM

He wasn't, he put his chances away well but was not bossing anything. He looks a tidy player but would come with a big risk factor and a large transfer fee, we can not afford to make any more mistakes in the transfer market, it is killing us.

Created loads of chances for Kerzhakov, put him through 1 on 1 at least 3 times, created space for Shirokov, tracked back well. He had a terrific tournament which is only overshadowed by the fact that everyone else became convinced that we've already won the tournament after one match.

When was the last time we had a Russian player?

robbie keane · « **Reply #1650 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:50:15 PM »

Quote from: El_Pistolero on July 2, 2012, 05:46:22 PM

It wouldn't be a large transfer fee, and if it was just wait 6 months and get him on a free. I've not seen him much but he looks tidy, a gamble I'd certainly like us to take.

If he was available on a free what makes you think he would choose us? Not that he would ever be available on a free but if he were the interest would be huge.

rocco · « **Reply #1651 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:50:44 PM »

Quote from: Renato on July 2, 2012, 05:41:22 PM

Dzagoev is a pretty good player but the Euros made him look like this world-beater that he isn't.

Seen all his games and didnt stand out as some one worth paying £15m and that's with 5 years on his contract not 6 months

HighSix · « **Reply #1652 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:53:58 PM »

Dzagoevs contract seems to be up to 2015, the report that is was up in December this year was incorrect.

Nicky English · « **Reply #1653 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:56:11 PM »

Quote from: HighSix on July 2, 2012, 05:53:58 PM

Dzagoevs contract seems to be up to 2015, the report that is was up in December this year was incorrect.

Edit: Either that or 2016, which is what a couple of Russki sites are suggesting.

robbie keane · « **Reply #1654 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:57:34 PM »

Quote from: Nicky English on July 2, 2012, 05:49:55 PM

Created loads of chances for Kerzhakov, put him through 1 on 1 at least 3 times, created space for Shirokov, tracked back well. He had a terrific tournament which is only overshadowed by the fact that everyone else became convinced that we've already won the tournament after one match.

When was the last time we had a Russian player?

Sorry not convinced by what I saw but to be fair apart from a handful of games I have not seen enough of him to be sure just how good he is.

Renato · « **Reply #1655 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:57:51 PM »

Quote from: Nicky English on July 2, 2012, 05:56:11 PM

Just checked a bunch of Russian sources. He's contracted through 2016, apparently.

Didn't know that. Even more reason to stay away, CSKA would be looking for an exortionate fee.

Nicky English · « **Reply #1656 on:** July 2, 2012, 05:59:23 PM »

Quote from: Renato on July 2, 2012, 05:57:51 PM

Didn't know that. Even more reason to stay away, CSKA would be looking for an exortionate fee.

I don't know if 15 is such a massive fee though. Also, he's Russian, so if things don't work out, we can ship him to Anzhi for double of what we paid.

Mr Rossi · « **Reply #1657 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:01:42 PM »

Why are you talking about Dzagoev? I thought it was Spurs who were linked with him, not us?

Get · « **Reply #1658 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:06:19 PM »

Quote from: Mr Rossi on July 2, 2012, 06:01:42 PM

Why are you talking about Dzagoev? I thought it was Spurs who were linked with him, not us?

people have a thing for players we aren't after

Mr Rossi · « **Reply #1659 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:07:38 PM »

Quote from: Get on July 2, 2012, 06:06:19 PM

people have a thing for players we aren't after

Oh I see...This thread will just end up getting locked if they carry on then.

El_Pistolero · « **Reply #1660 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:08:06 PM »

Quote from: robbie keane on July 2, 2012, 05:50:15 PM

If he was available on a free what makes you think he would choose us? Not that he would ever be available on a free but if he were the interest would be huge.

He may not, no harm in trying though.

Quote from: HighSix on July 2, 2012, 05:53:58 PM

Dzagoevs contract seems to be up to 2015, the report that is was up in December this year was incorrect.

No chance then. Onto our own transfer targets!

dewisaint · « **Reply #1661 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:14:53 PM »

Quote from: El_Pistolero on July 2, 2012, 06:08:06 PM

He may not, no harm in trying though.

No chance then. Onto our own transfer targets!

Have we got any besides siggy??

Get · « **Reply #1662 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:14:55 PM »

Quote from: Mr Rossi on July 2, 2012, 06:07:38 PM

Oh I see...This thread will just end up getting locked if they carry on then.

Exactly, grass is always greener on the other side, and everyone else is better than our own players, and once we get linked with players (and no matter how shit they might be) they are potentially world class

I can't wait for the summer to be over and finally watch some footie

Niru Red4ever · « **Reply #1663 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:15:01 PM »

Quote from: Mr Rossi on July 2, 2012, 06:01:42 PM

Why are you talking about Dzagoev? I thought it was Spurs who were linked with him, not us?

Its tit for tat. Spuds are chasing our targets, so we theirs

Mr Rossi · « **Reply #1664 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:17:54 PM »

Quote from: Niru Red4ever on July 2, 2012, 06:15:01 PM

Its tit for tat. Spuds are chasing our targets, so we theirs

Yes but, the difference is they are being linked with ours according to different media sources. But we aren't being linked with theirs.

Nicky English · « **Reply #1665 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:18:52 PM »

I brought up Dzagoev with bemusement after reading the Dempsey thread. That is how it all started.

peachybum · « **Reply #1666 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:24:00 PM »

Quote from: dewisaint on July 2, 2012, 06:14:53 PM

Have we got any besides siggy??

From what i can see from the papers today the only player we're really mentioned with is Victor Moses. But that might be Whelan just trying to get some interest and a better offer from Chelsea.

shelovesyou · « **Reply #1667 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:33:49 PM »

Quote from: BarnsleyScouser on July 2, 2012, 05:31:11 PM

Can't believe more people don't rate Dzagoev on here, i think he's potentially a world beater and already is a good player at 22.

Thats all very well but are we in for him and even more so, are there any credible links to suggest this ?

redrockydennis · « **Reply #1668 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:44:18 PM »

Why are spurs buying everyone?

peachybum · « **Reply #1669 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:46:40 PM »

Quote from: redrockydennis on July 2, 2012, 06:44:18 PM

Why are spurs buying everyone?

Because alot of players have left or are leaving Spurs.

We're not in that position. We've lost Kuyt and Fabio and gained Cole and AA.

lfcmaster · « **Reply #1670 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:51:58 PM »

Quote from: redrockydennis on July 2, 2012, 06:44:18 PM

Why are spurs buying everyone?

spurs buy the players we want rather than having there own scouts

bottleandahalf · « **Reply #1671 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:54:38 PM »

Quote from: redrockydennis on July 2, 2012, 06:44:18 PM

Why are spurs buying everyone?

They haven't bought anyone - Yet!

robbie keane · « **Reply #1672 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:55:17 PM »

Quote from: redrockydennis on July 2, 2012, 06:44:18 PM

Why are spurs buying everyone?

Replacing deadwood.

RivaGe · « **Reply #1673 on:** July 2, 2012, 06:55:52 PM »

Quote from: Renato on July 2, 2012, 05:19:09 PM

He's not that good plus £15m would be a rip off akin to Andy Carroll for £35m considering he has just a few months left before he becomes a free transfer.

And your source is your arse? He has a contract until 2015/2016.