Topic: George Galloway MP

[Maggie May]

Christ on a fucked up bike, you show me one politician that is not self serving and spouts shite. They are all pretty much as detestable as the next idiot.

By the galloway is the scouser of british politics, thats why everyone hates him, the tories naturally an so called labour because hes more of a socialist  than them an they hate socialism dont they?

Yes.  Well said lads.   

[Lord Roger Hunt]

By the galloway is the scouser of british politics, thats why everyone hates him, the tories naturally an so called labour because hes more of a socialist  than them an they hate socialism dont they?

Exactly, that's why I'm puzzled why hard core Scouse socialists in here have fallen for the crap spouted by the Tory press, who hate (and maybe fear  a little) Gallaway with a passiion, as there's no doubt, he is one of the finest orators this generation,  In fact, I suspect he knows that if he'd towed the Labour Party line, he could have been the Leader they're now looking for,

But, he wouldn't, he turned his back on the political gravy train and stuck to his principles,

He's no saint admittedly but there's far worse skulking in the corners of the corridors of power 

[Golden_Child]

I like what Galloway says in some respects but it can't be denied that the man is doing it for personal gain. Nothing wrong with that in principle but you do have to wonder exactly how much he really believes in his causes.

Plus, if hitchens thinks he's a c*nt then that's some pretty damning evidence 

Ps. I agree with him completely on Israel

[caspertheghost]

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2012/Apr/Week3/16211260.jpg

that is one dirty look   

[El Campeador]

[El Campeador]

[El Campeador]

[El Campeador]

That's an "honourary Hamas passport" he's holding.

[SMD]

That's a pretty good strike rate.

Someone set up a meeting with the Tory Party.

[El Campeador]

That's a pretty good strike rate.

Someone set up a meeting with the Tory Party.

I've not even started yet.

[SMD]

I've not even started yet.

The punchline is that the last photo El C posts is of him shaking hands with George.

[El Campeador]

[El Campeador]

The punchline is that the last photo El C posts is of him shaking hands with George.

I'm done 

[El Campeador]

He was referrring to the Iraqi people, quiet clearly, not Saddam Hussein:

A spokesman for the Muslim Association of Britain said: "I understand Arabic and it [Galloway's salutation] was taken completely out of context. When he said "you" he meant the Iraqi people, he was saluting their indefatigability, their resolve against sanctions. Even the interpreter got it right and, in Arabic, says salutes the stand of the Iraqi people'."[

But that interpretation didn't suit the agenda of the right wing press did it? 

Neither did the fact that the purpose of the visit was to try to persuade Saddam give up his WMD so sanctions could be lifted.

The problem was...there weren't any.....

Murdoch wanted war....George was trying to stop it, knowingly making himself very unpopular in the process.

There was only going to be one winner - Murdoch and Gallaway's reputation was trashed.

Surely, LFC fans, of all people, should know what the Press are capable of if it fits with a particular agenda...?!

[El Campeador]

[El Campeador]

[El Campeador]

I'd rather a horrible c*nt that stood up for innocents than a horrible c*nt that killed them.

No doubt, but Gorgeous George didn't stand up for innocents.

Instead, he's helped legitimize an entire slew of horrible c*nts who killed innocents.

There are no photographs of him with Edward Said or Hanan Ashrawi. Galloway however has been seen with the most odious of Baathi c*nts, helping in the legitimizing of their mandate.

He's not saved any innocents. He's sanctioned the killing of many of them.

[Lord Roger Hunt]

No doubt, but Gorgeous George didn't stand up for innocents.

Instead, he's helped legitimize an entire slew of horrible c*nts who killed innocents.

There are no photographs of him with Edward Said or Hanan Ashrawi. Galloway however has been seen with the most odious of Baathi c*nts, helping in the legitimizing of their mandate.

He's not saved any innocents. He's sanctioned the killing of many of them.

Is that the 'evidence'?

Where's the opulant life-style, the flash car? The champagne fuelled summer balls? Visits to casino's? Private jet? How about Premium Economy seats on BA?

No,,,,,,?

For everyone one of your photos, I could trump them with two of mine own but frankly, other than this one to illustrate, I can't be arsed:




A lesser person than George might be tempted to think 'F*ck this  for a  game of soldiers, I'm giving in', But not George, oh no, he keeps banging on about what he believes is wrong,

Consistently brave,

[BIGdavalad]

A lesser person might be tempted to think 'F*ck this  for a  game of soldiers, I'm giving in', But not George, oh no, he keeps banging on about what he believes is wrong,

Consistently brave

Consistently friends with mass murderers.

Are you his mum?

[Lord Roger Hunt]

Consistently friends with mass murderers.

Are you his mum?

Ha ha, frankly I shoot the bas*tard, as I can't stand his politics but I'm just intrigued about why he seems to be universally hated, even by the staunch die-in-the-wool socialists that make up most of RAWK.  What is it about him that causes them to be so vitriolic? Have I missed something?

He has raised millions for good causes in far flung places, places where most fear to tread and, yes, he'll sup with the Devil and say nice things, if it allows him access to the areas he wants to get to.

There isn't a shred of real evidence that he's pocketed any of it (unless someone can show me where it is?) so whats the problem? 

My suspicion is that he's been stitched up by the right wing press and some RAWKites have fallen for it e.g. I can't believe that evidence from Hitchin, the late golden boy of the right (but previously the left) wing, is being used on RAWK to condemn Gallaway, a proven, consistent and, sadly, persisent socialist).

Other than photos of him with 'monsters' (his words) where he's trying gain access to the poorer restricted areas within a Dictatorship, I haven't seen anything that would convict him, in my eyes.

So, until something comes along, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I still think he's a pratt, hate his extreme left wing politics but believe that, if he'd continued taking the Labour Party shilling, he'd be Leader now, destroying Cameron at the Dispatch Box on a weekly basis which, as a confirmed skeptic of all things political, is something I would enjoy seeing.

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[Carlos: Very Kickable]

I like him too.

Don't get all the talk about him being unprincipled. Ands he's a first class orator - one of the finest i've ever heard speak.

Don't listen to the sheeples George!

[LF]

Ha ha, frankly I shoot the bas*tard, as I can't stand his politics but I'm just intrigued about why he seems to be universally hated, even by the staunch die-in-the-wool socialists that make up most of RAWK.  What is it about him that causes them to be so vitriolic? Have I missed something?

He has raised millions for good causes in far flung places, places where most fear to tread and, yes, he'll sup with the Devil and say nice things, if it allows him access to the areas he wants to get to.

There isn't a shred of real evidence that he's pocketed any of it (unless someone can show me where it is?) so whats the problem? 

My suspicion is that he's been stitched up by the right wing press and some RAWKites have fallen for it e.g. I can't believe that evidence from Hitchin, the late golden boy of the right (but previously the left) wing, is being used on RAWK to condemn Gallaway, a proven, consistent and, sadly, persisent socialist).

Other than photos of him with 'monsters' (his words) where he's trying gain access to the poorer restricted areas within a Dictatorship, I haven't seen anything that would convict him, in my eyes.

So, until something comes along, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I still think he's a pratt, hate his extreme left wing politics but believe that, if he'd continued taking the Labour Party shilling, he'd be Leader now, destroying Cameron at the Dispatch Box on a weekly basis which, as a confirmed skeptic of all things political, is something I would enjoy seeing.

have you read his views on musharraf's military coup in pakistan? the guy is a c*nt

"In poor third world countries like Pakistan, politics is too important to be left to petty squabbling politicians. Pakistan is always on the brink of breaking apart into its widely disparate components. Only the armed forces can really be counted on to hold such a country together... Democracy is a means, not an end in itself and it has a bad name on the streets of Karachi and Lahore"

 

[Tepid water]

I like him too.

Don't get all the talk about him being unprincipled. Ands he's a first class orator - one of the finest i've ever heard speak.

Don't listen to the sheeples George!

He is a very good orator you're right...

I have to say though he's a genuinely stomach chirningly vile person.

I can put aside politics, dictators, cat impressions, and I've got to be honest, it's a instinctive utter hatred of his character.

See him on tv or listen to him on the radio (talksport is utterly shit I know, but driving at night there's a limited selection), hes a bully, he can't win an argument he has to demean people.

I can't think of a more obnoxious personality really....

[Lord Roger Hunt]

He is a very good orator you're right...

I have to say though he's a genuinely stomach chirningly vile person.

I can put aside politics, dictators, cat impressions, and I've got to be honest, it's a instinctive utter hatred of his character.

See him on tv or listen to him on the radio (talksport is utterly shit I know, but driving at night there's a limited selection), hes a bully, he can't win an argument he has to demean people.

I can't think of a more obnoxious personality really....

So.....APART from all that, you think he's alright then?   

[Armchair expert]

Can't understand why he's hated either.....yeah he shaked hands with Saddam, but better to do that than sell him shit loads of arms to kill a million kurds like
Bush snr and the Tory party did.
I see more venom directed at him on LFC forums than Tory's which I find indefatigable.

[BIGdavalad]

Can't understand why he's hated either.....yeah he shaked hands with Saddam, but better to do that than sell him shit loads of arms to kill a million kurds like
Bush snr and the Tory party did.
I see more venom directed at him on LFC forums than Tory's which I find indefatigable.

Did they? What did they sell him then?

You don't know what indefatigable means either, do you?

[bottleandahalf]

Can't understand why he's hated either.....yeah he shaked hands with Saddam, but better to do that than sell him shit loads of arms to kill a million kurds like
Bush snr and the Tory party did.
I see more venom directed at him on LFC forums than Tory's which I find indefatigable.

"The politican also laid into Anfield boss Kenny Dalglish and branded him a “moron” and an “a***” over his handling the issue."

[LF]

"The politican also laid into Anfield boss Kenny Dalglish and branded him a “moron” and an “a***” over his handling the issue."

to put it into perspective

Galloway thinks

KK = moron and ass
Saddam Hussein/generic muslim dictator = hero

fuck off

[redmark]

I was a volunteer steward on one of the big anti-war demos. Unlike any other demo I'd been on, or stewarded on, we were told to create a 'box', linking arms and basically walking sideways, around the VIPs at the front of the demo. It was quite bizarre, like a guard of honour for Galloway, just one or two other Stop The War activists and some buddies from the Muslim Council. And several bouncer types. (As I recall, most of the other Stop The War/Respect leadership were elsewhere on the demo, not in the protected 'box'). The demo was lined up for a long time, setting off over an hour late, waiting for Galloway and his VIP guests to arrive.

After a (very slow) mile or so, a very old peace campaigner at the side harangued me; why couldn't he slip into the front of the demo (he was frail, it was packed behind the front), why the protective box, he'd never seen anything like it in 60 years of demonstrating. I walked about another 10 yards, realised he was right and walked off the 'box' into the pub; had a quick pint, dumped my stewarding bib in a bin and enjoyed the rest of the demo.

There's something (as Michael said earlier) rather offputting and fraudulent about Galloway. It's there to see in his political opportunism at times, his croneyism with despots and his flawed 'Respect' alliance between solid socialists and (some) religious bigots. Seeing him up close acting as the self-proclaimed leader of the anti-war movement, requiring a 'guard' for him and his VIPs, that I've never seen on any other demo (and many in much more potentially violent situations), just reinforced it.

[Lord Roger Hunt]

I was a volunteer steward on one of the big anti-war demos. Unlike any other demo I'd been on, or stewarded on, we were told to create a 'box', linking arms and basically walking sideways, around the VIPs at the front of the demo. It was quite bizarre, like a guard of honour for Galloway, just one or two other Stop The War activists and some buddies from the Muslim Council. And several bouncer types. (As I recall, most of the other Stop The War/Respect leadership were elsewhere on the demo, not in the protected 'box'). The demo was lined up for a long time, setting off over an hour late, waiting for Galloway and his VIP guests to arrive.

After a (very slow) mile or so, a very old peace campaigner at the side harangued me; why couldn't he slip into the front of the demo (he was frail, it was packed behind the front), why the protective box, he'd never seen anything like it in 60 years of demonstrating. I walked about another 10 yards, realised he was right and walked off the 'box' into the pub; had a quick pint, dumped my stewarding bib in a bin and enjoyed the rest of the demo.

There's something (as Michael said earlier) rather offputting and fraudulent about Galloway. It's there to see in his political opportunism at times, his croneyism with despots and his flawed 'Respect' alliance between solid socialists and (some) religious bigots. Seeing him up close acting as the self-proclaimed leader of the anti-war movement, requiring a 'guard' for him and his VIPs, that I've never seen on any other demo (and many in much more potentially violent situations), just reinforced it.

That's interesting, first hand experience of him- thanks!

[rewood]

He is a very good orator you're right...

I have to say though he's a genuinely stomach chirningly vile person.

I can put aside politics, dictators, cat impressions, and I've got to be honest, it's a instinctive utter hatred of his character.

See him on tv or listen to him on the radio (talksport is utterly shit I know, but driving at night there's a limited selection), hes a bully, he can't win an argument he has to demean people.

I can't think of a more obnoxious personality really....

Hear, hear.

[Fruity]

to be honest I kind of like George as well. Sometimes I do think he goes to far in an attempt to be the revolutionist of British politics. However and this is the key for me - we need more people like George. We are becoming a nanny state without a voice - far too much is allowed and rarely examined. Not everything George says I agree with but without people like him who is going to question government decisions and motives. For me every politician is immoral and whilst George is ridiculed at least he seems to try to listen to what the people are thinking rather than the 1%.

[Armchair expert]

Did they? What did they sell him then?

You don't know what indefatigable means either, do you? 

During the late 80's they sold him and right up to March 92 Regan and Bush sold him materials including anthrax nerve gas also germs similar to TB. They also sold him or rather gave him techonolgy and materials needed to develop long range weapons and nuclear weapons which after the Gulf war was taken from him.

Actually I do know what it means guess it was a stab at a poor Galloway/Saddam joke, well spotted though, I'm sure I'm not fatiguing you with my answer....

Love the name BIGdavelad....sounds like someone is trying to compensate for something there .....:-)

[Lord Roger Hunt]

During the late 80's they sold him and right up to March 92 Regan and Bush sold him materials including anthrax nerve gas also germs similar to TB. They also sold him or rather gave him techonolgy and materials needed to develop long range weapons and nuclear weapons which after the Gulf war was taken from him.

As I say, any evidence in support, real or documentary? 

[Maggie May]

Love the name BIGdavelad....sounds like someone is trying to compensate for something there .....:-)

Actually, you couldn't be more wrong.  His name was so altered at my insistance to reflect the size of his enormous weapon.   

[Armchair expert]

Actually, you couldn't be more wrong.  His name was so altered at my insistance to reflect the size of his enormous weapon.   

Does the UN know of this weapon of mass destruction?

[Lord Roger Hunt]

Actually, you couldn't be more wrong.  His name was so altered at my insistance to reflect the size of his enormous weapon.   

As I say, any evidence in support, real or documentary? 

Actually, on second thoughts, no need for photos, I'll take your word for it....

[Cruiser]

Actually, you couldn't be more wrong.  His name was so altered at my insistance to reflect the size of his enormous weapon.   

As I say, any evidence in support, real or documentary? 

Actually, on second thoughts, no need for photos, I'll take your word for it....

I wouldn't want to mess with Dava's weapon 

[BIGdavalad]

Love the name BIGdavelad....sounds like someone is trying to compensate for something there .....:-)

It's to make up for my penis, which is like a Pringles tube with a baking apple on top of it.

Calling it just 'big' makes other people feel better about themselves.

[Maggie May]

It's to make up for my penis, which is like a Pringles tube with a baking apple on top of it.

Calling it just 'big' makes other people feel better about themselves.

Well when you sent me that fotee you had to use both hands to support it and it still stuck out both ends.