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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #200 on: June 14, 2012, 02:36:42 AM »
Hes a very average player, but i'm not surprised by the fact people want to ignore that because ther eis a chance he might come here, people did the same with Downing.

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Thing with Kalou is he'll want (and get) a five year deal, I doubt that's something we'd be prepared to.
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #201 on: June 14, 2012, 02:37:27 AM »
He doesn't play as a striker for Chelsea. He's been a wide player for the last 6 years.

Nope. Half the games he's played up front, like I said he's a bit like Kuyt and Babel, can play wide but prefers up front.

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #202 on: June 14, 2012, 02:38:00 AM »
Nope. Half the games he's played up front, like I said he's a bit like Kuyt and Babel, can play wide but prefer up front.

Which games?

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #203 on: June 14, 2012, 02:38:45 AM »
Which games?

Half his Chelsea career (moreso in his earlier days) and the entirety of his feyenoord career.

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #204 on: June 14, 2012, 02:39:15 AM »
wasnt the echo article just a round up of rehashed rumours??
pretty sure I noticed that when i read it

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #205 on: June 14, 2012, 02:44:56 AM »
Half his Chelsea career (moreso in his earlier days) and the entirety of his feyenoord career.

Can't say I can ever remember him leading the line for Chelsea.

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #206 on: June 14, 2012, 02:46:01 AM »
Can't say I can ever remember him leading the line for Chelsea.

Chelsea haven't always played 4-3-3 and I can when Drogba was injured and they didn't have anyone else as backup.

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #207 on: June 14, 2012, 03:37:30 AM »
Not excited by him but if wages are reasonable, why not? 

He could be the next Maxi or could be the next Voronator but we do need some squad players with a little more quality and at the moment, sadly, he's better than what we have.

We have no backup striker and no other players (besides Maxi) who can play out wide now that Kuyt's gone (who's Downing???) and Kalou can provide provide cover for these 2 areas. 

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #208 on: June 14, 2012, 03:47:43 AM »
Fucking waste of space and waste of wages if he comes here.  Honestly a useless player.
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #209 on: June 14, 2012, 03:55:03 AM »
If there was even a chance we could sell Downing and bring in Kalou on reasonable wages, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Kalou is better than what we have out wide, bar Bellamy.

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #210 on: June 14, 2012, 03:58:26 AM »
If there was even a chance we could sell Downing and bring in Kalou on reasonable wages, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Kalou is better than what we have out wide, bar Bellamy.

Firstly Kalou isn't a winger. Secondly he has absolutely no talent whatsoever bar a bit of pace, Downing has far more talent and he flopped here.

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #211 on: June 14, 2012, 04:02:30 AM »
Firstly Kalou isn't a winger. Secondly he has absolutely no talent whatsoever bar a bit of pace, Downing has far more talent and he flopped here.

He is a wide forward, which is how Rodgers likes his "wide players" to play. He's easily better than Downing, although that's not really saying much.

So if we sold Downing and brought in Kalou, we'd be improving our side, earning money from it too. Ideally though, he'd be brought in to supplement more wide players. We are severely lacking in that position, and he would improve the squad.

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #212 on: June 14, 2012, 04:04:56 AM »
He is a wide forward, which is how Rodgers likes his "wide players" to play. He's easily better than Downing, although that's not really saying much.

So if we sold Downing and brought in Kalou, we'd be improving our side, earning money from it too. Ideally though, he'd be brought in to supplement more wide players. We are severely lacking in that position, and he would improve the squad.

He really isn't. Up front yes, out wide he's as bad as Kuyt. In terms of creating chances, Kalou is terrible. Poor technique, can't cross, scores the occasional tap in, that's about it.

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #213 on: June 14, 2012, 04:06:32 AM »
He really isn't. Up front yes, out wide he's as bad as Kuyt. In terms of creating chances, Kalou is terrible. Poor technique, can't cross, scores the occasional tap in, that's about it.

We'll agree to disagree then.

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #214 on: June 14, 2012, 04:20:11 AM »
He is probably one of the worst players Chelsea  have had in their first 11 for years. Why else would they let him go ? Can't believe our new manager would rate a player who would be as effective as joe cole and on the same money

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #215 on: June 14, 2012, 05:11:26 AM »
Can have as a squad player where he will come on as a substitute and start matches occasionally. He should not be signed as a first choice player
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #216 on: June 14, 2012, 05:38:45 AM »
Some silly posts in here regarding Kalou. Fact is this season aside he has played a lot of football for Chelsea and contributed his fair share of goals.

His league record looks like this -

2006–07    Games - 33    Goals - 7    Assists - 5
2007–08    Games - 30    Goals - 7    Assists - 9
2008–09    Games - 27    Goals - 6    Assists - 4
2009–10    Games - 23    Goals - 5    Assists - 3
2010–11    Games - 31    Goals - 10 Assists - 3

Overall at Chelsea? Games - 244  Goals - 60  Assists - 40

Depending on his wage demands he would be a very good squad player for us. He's quick, direct, has pretty good dribbling and an eye for goal and has no transfer fee involved.

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #217 on: June 14, 2012, 07:35:46 AM »
I think he be a very useful addition to the squad.
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #218 on: June 14, 2012, 07:41:01 AM »
I think he be a very useful addition to the squad.
Good player

Apart from his bell end type behaviour picking up the Champions League trophy, I'd say this would be decent if the wages were ok.

Then again, something about his bell end type behaviour puts me off. /me shrugs.
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #219 on: June 14, 2012, 07:43:01 AM »
Awful player.

Whatever the position is he would play for us I'd prefer Downing, Maxi, Bellamy, Suarez, Carroll etc... And if we're looking to get squad players, why not actually look at players who don't want an outrageous contract and could be good enough to be regulars in a few year's time, just like Gylfi.

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #220 on: June 14, 2012, 08:10:41 AM »
Should be looking to sign first team regulars not decent squad players.
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #221 on: June 14, 2012, 08:21:18 AM »
Should be looking to sign first team regulars not decent squad players.

Exactly, as things stand Downing, Bellamy, even maxi are decent squad players, why add another? If suarez plays out wide under rodgers then you need another wide man on the opposite flank. If suarez plays up top on his own then you need two new wide men, you could probably get away with one and persevere with maxi.
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #222 on: June 14, 2012, 08:30:48 AM »
Its like people have some sort of bosman-signing addiction on here. You get the "oooohhhh, he'd be a decent squad player on a free" reaction. With people totally forgetting that bosman signings hardly ever work out for us anyway.
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #223 on: June 14, 2012, 08:32:12 AM »
Exactly, as things stand Downing, Bellamy, even maxi are decent squad players, why add another? If suarez plays out wide under rodgers then you need another wide man on the opposite flank. If suarez plays up top on his own then you need two new wide men, you could probably get away with one and persevere with maxi.

Apart from the fact that they're really not.

Downing is as ineffective as anyone we've had play out wide.

Bellamy can't play more than 2 games on the trot.

And Maxi could well be leaving.

Add the fact, we have an additional 20 or so games this season means we really don't have enough options.

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« Reply #224 on: June 14, 2012, 08:38:55 AM »
Apart from the fact that they're really not.

Downing is as ineffective as anyone we've had play out wide.

Bellamy can't play more than 2 games on the trot.

And Maxi could well be leaving.

Add the fact, we have an additional 20 or so games this season means we really don't have enough options.

Well shouldn't we be looking to fill those gaps with players for the first team and not squad players?

Quality before quantity mate. Not the other way round. We've already fallen into that trap too many times before and thats why we are were we are.

And before you start goin on about how much we have to spend, you dont have a clue and neither do I, so lets just leave it there eh.
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #225 on: June 14, 2012, 08:43:50 AM »
Well shouldn't we be looking to fill those gaps with players for the first team and not squad players?

Quality before quantity mate. Not the other way round. We've already fallen into that trap too many times before and thats why we are were we are.

And before you start goin on about how much we have to spend, you dont have a clue and neither do I, so lets just leave it there eh.

I've stated already that we should be looking to bring in quality, with Kalou to supplement as another option to supplement that first choice winger on a free.

And do you really think we have the money to splash out on two marquee wingers when we still need a striker, a DM, a CM/AM, and arguably a LB? Rodgers has already said we have money to spend, but not that much that would allow us to splurge like last summer.
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #226 on: June 14, 2012, 08:45:34 AM »
Picking up good players on a free is clever providing we are not paying them ridiculously high wages so we can never shift them later on. Kalou is a good player, I'd have him in our first team over Downing on the evidence of last year.  Pay him a signing on fee and put him on £50k a week contract.  Doesn't he have Maxi's knack of arriving in the box and tapping the ball into an empty net?  -  Averages a goal every four games at Chelsea (same as Kuyt and slightly better than Maxi) and one assist every six games.

I think he'd be a decent addition to the squad, an improvement on Kuyt, but if Schalke want to offer him £90k a week, then let them, I won't be devastated if we don't get him.
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #227 on: June 14, 2012, 08:48:00 AM »
I'd support this kind of bosman signing, if we could keep the wages down.  Kalou has a strong and consistent record of goals and assists.  The biggest problem I have though is that Bosmans normally go for ludicrous wages, making them hard to move on if they don't work out.  See Joe Cole.

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« Reply #228 on: June 14, 2012, 08:48:37 AM »
Apart from the fact that they're really not.

Downing is as ineffective as anyone we've had play out wide.

Bellamy can't play more than 2 games on the trot.

And Maxi could well be leaving.

Add the fact, we have an additional 20 or so games this season means we really don't have enough options.

Sorry I don't know what your saying here in your response. Your saying there's a lack of quality which is what I just described because at the moment we only have decent widemen IMO. We need better.

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #229 on: June 14, 2012, 08:50:35 AM »
Well shouldn't we be looking to fill those gaps with players for the first team and not squad players?

Quality before quantity mate. Not the other way round. We've already fallen into that trap too many times before and thats why we are were we are.

And before you start goin on about how much we have to spend, you dont have a clue and neither do I, so lets just leave it there eh.

We don't know what our budget is.  If you've only got £20m to spend, you've got to be clever.  Picking up very good squad players for 'free' is a smart way of making your transfer budget go further, so that you have money left in the kitty to go and buy one first-team, top class player.  Even if you've got all the money in the world, picking up good players on a free is a good strategy.  If we sign him on a free now, give him a signing on fee and put him on a sensible contract, we could always sell in two years time for a profit.
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #230 on: June 14, 2012, 08:52:20 AM »
Why do we want decent squad players, should concentrate on quality first team players who can make first 11. Got enough squad players and should supplement these with youth.
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #231 on: June 14, 2012, 08:52:55 AM »
In the words of Don Logan......

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #232 on: June 14, 2012, 08:54:02 AM »
If we signed him as a Squad player then we raise the standard of our squad players. At mid-wages id have him hands down.
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #233 on: June 14, 2012, 08:54:25 AM »
Ayone else just think he looked like a twat too after they won the CL, dont need players like that here
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #234 on: June 14, 2012, 08:56:04 AM »
Meh not too bothered, would add great strength in depth, will be a good option to come off the bench and make a difference, plus he's has got experience because he has won everything in English football. Can't really complain for free even with a 2-3m agent fee. Obviously he's not going to improve our first 11 but he will give them competition.
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #235 on: June 14, 2012, 08:57:44 AM »
Sorry I don't know what your saying here in your response. Your saying there's a lack of quality which is what I just described because at the moment we only have decent widemen IMO. We need better.

I've stated my reasoning in my post after.

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #236 on: June 14, 2012, 08:59:19 AM »
We don't know what our budget is.  If you've only got £20m to spend, you've got to be clever.  Picking up very good squad players for 'free' is a smart way of making your transfer budget go further, so that you have money left in the kitty to go and buy one first-team, top class player.  Even if you've got all the money in the world, picking up good players on a free is a good strategy.  If we sign him on a free now, give him a signing on fee and put him on a sensible contract, we could always sell in two years time for a profit.

Exactly. The key is wages.

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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #237 on: June 14, 2012, 09:05:03 AM »


He wouldn't be free. His signing on and agents fee's would run into the millions for starters, he'd want a 4-5 year contract and I very much doubt anyone who signs him would be paying him on the cheap either.
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Re: Salomon Kalou
« Reply #238 on: June 14, 2012, 09:07:33 AM »
Three of my mates are chelsea fans and they're adamant he's utter shite. I'm not keen on him either, from what I've seen.

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« Reply #239 on: June 14, 2012, 09:08:30 AM »
He wouldn't be free. His signing on and agents fee's would run into the millions for starters, he'd want a 4-5 year contract and I very much doubt anyone who signs him would be paying him on the cheap either.

You may doubt, but we should still be enquiring. If he wants stupid wages etc, then we pull out of the deal. If he's reasonable we have a good signing.

Not really that difficult to comprehend is it. We just don't know. Chelsea apparently offered him a new deal earlier this year, but the key factor was supposedly playing time. So money might not be everything for him. But if it is, he can piss off.