Topic: Charlie Adam - 2nd season

[smurfinaus]

Too slow and his short passing is very ordinary. Which isnt good in a quick accurate passing and movement system.....

[Bob Loblaw]

Slow, stupid, fat...for those reasons, i'm out.

[ziggyy]

For 6mil, which was a little too much imo, can't complain too much for a squad player.

the only mistake was having him as first choice instead of keeping someone like Aquilani...

[rossipersiempre]

Adam was 20lbs heavier last preseason?  Looked to me that he dropped 10lbs after moving from Blackpool

He's been injured for what, 3 months now? Given how unfit and immobile he appeared even after a hard summer of pre-season conditioning work, it doesn't even bear thinking about what sort of state he'll be in this time around. And that's before you even discuss his multi-deficient game.

[spider-neil]

Slow, stupid, fat...for those reasons, i'm out.

That's a really harsh opinion of yourself and even if it's true it's no reason to stop posting.

[Pistolero]

Slow, stupid, fat...for those reasons, i'm out.

join the gym...do some cardio...enrol on a college course....




Your welcome

[scouse29]

Just had another text from Fordy. Charlie has been calling him on a regular basis since the season finished. Apparantly, Charlie has been on a strict diet of faggots, pies, chips, cake, biscuits, burgers, the odd kebab, deep fried spam and fizzy pop with every meal. The man boobs are coming on a treat with slight chaffing whilst wearing shorts. He does not seem to think that carrying the extra weigh will be a problem.

His pre season has already started, three touches with his left foot then a long 40 yard hoof forward. 5 yard run, deep breath, pant, spit, swig of fizzy pop then a sharp lunge with the intent on taking out the nearest opponant.

[Rohit]

He's been injured for what, 3 months now? Given how unfit and immobile he appeared even after a hard summer of pre-season conditioning work, it doesn't even bear thinking about what sort of state he'll be in this time around. And that's before you even discuss his multi-deficient game.

People probably think your just trying to play the wum game, but the truth is they've probably missed the actual reasons you've mentioned in the past regards his deficiencies. The major one being, he doesn't actually know how to play center mid especially. Its untrue to suggest him and lucas had a good thing going, unless by good thing they meant lucas do the job of a whole midfield himself defensively and play the short passing game himself. Even alonso would struggle under such conditions. I hope we don't carry anyone next season in middle and finally get a good enough unit in there to challenge for honours.

[RuncornRed25]

I like him but its obvious he hasnt adapted to playing more of a team game, he was the main man at Blackpool he had a free role no such luxury here

[exino]

Too slow and his short passing is very ordinary. Which isnt good in a quick accurate passing and movement system.....

Slow, stupid, fat...for those reasons, i'm out.

He's been injured for what, 3 months now? Given how unfit and immobile he appeared even after a hard summer of pre-season conditioning work, it doesn't even bear thinking about what sort of state he'll be in this time around. And that's before you even discuss his multi-deficient game.

THIS

[Shanks1965]

He'll do well in a team that plays pass and move. He might struggle a bit in a team that works his socks off to win it back. Not overly worried about him to be honest, think he will hold is own and if he doesnt then....

[kenworthy]

Just had another text from Fordy. Charlie has been calling him on a regular basis since the season finished. Apparantly, Charlie has been on a strict diet of faggots, pies, chips, cake, biscuits, burgers, the odd kebab, deep fried spam and fizzy pop with every meal. The man boobs are coming on a treat with slight chaffing whilst wearing shorts. He does not seem to think that carrying the extra weigh will be a problem.

His pre season has already started, three touches with his left foot then a long 40 yard hoof forward. 5 yard run, deep breath, pant, spit, swig of fizzy pop then a sharp lunge with the intent on taking out the nearest opponant.

I can confirm the deep fried spam. That's about it.

[farawayred]

He'll do well in a team that plays pass and move. He might struggle a bit in a team that works his socks off to win it back. Not overly worried about him to be honest, think he will hold is own and if he doesnt then....

It surprises me that you think that. It seemed to me that at Blackpool a lot of their game revolved around him, but for us he was especially slow or even static. And his passing was truly poor; for every 'Hollywood' pass he pulls, there are 20 that failed...   

[rednich85]

join the gym...do some cardio...enrol on a college course....




Your welcome

Doing cardio will do nothing for his intellect.

[Shanks1965]

It surprises me that you think that. It seemed to me that at Blackpool a lot of their game revolved around him, but for us he was especially slow or even static. And his passing was truly poor; for every 'Hollywood' pass he pulls, there are 20 that failed...   

I actually think his instinct is to do just what it says on the tin as in "pass AND MOVE". Playing as a holding mid he isn't expected to move very far from his holding position hence always looks static. I think his form dropped off badly in the second half of the season too, before his injury. I could be wrong and I guess we'll find out soon enough.

[NOTBORNIN1982]

The ability to play long or short balls with an equal amount of class an accuracy is an asset possessed by few.

Charlie Adam could be a revelation next season.

Fuck your negative bollocks 

[Matt8Pie]

The ability to play long or short balls with an equal amount of class an accuracy is an asset possessed by few.

Charlie Adam could be a revelation this season.

Fuck your negative bollocks 

Could be, won't be. Not for us anyway.

[Shanks1965]

Adam was 20lbs heavier last preseason?  Looked to me that he dropped 10lbs after moving from Blackpool

It's them tangerine shirts. Put pounds on ya.

[rossipersiempre]

Did anyone (no not you Fordy, shut up) actually think we missed him in the team when he was injured?

That deafening silence alone says everything.

[rossipersiempre]

It's them tangerine shirts. Put pounds on ya.

Both QPR and Reading would be bad moves in that case.

[Matt8Pie]

Did anyone (no not you Fordy, shut up) actually think we missed him in the team when he was injured?

That deafening silence alone says everything.

Nope, not in the slightest.

[Y2J]

Did anyone (no not you Fordy, shut up) actually think we missed him in the team when he was injured?

That deafening silence alone says everything.

More importantly would Charlie Adam earn a starting place in anyone of the top six teams last season, the answer is a staggering no and for that reason I think we should sell & move on.

[NOTBORNIN1982]

It's a crying shame when folk draw conclusions and make harsh remarks about a guy who's barely notched 30 games. Is this the extenet of the support on RAWK?

What has the lad done to deserve this malevolent abuse?

Apart from Skrtel and perhaps Suarez, nobody had a great season, shall we all abuse Pepe for the season he had?

[Cadno]

More importantly would Charlie Adam earn a starting place in anyone of the top six teams last season, the answer is a staggering no and for that reason I think we should sell & move on.

The fact he would not make the starting 11 in any  those teams is beyond doubt.   Heck he would struggle to make the bench for most of them.  When he is eventually sold does anyone see him joining anyone other.than a mid to relegation fodder team?

[kindalen]

the fact he is even in our squad saddens me

[RayPhilAlan]

He'll do well in a team that plays pass and move. He might struggle a bit in a team that works his socks off to win it back. Not overly worried about him to be honest, think he will hold is own and if he doesnt then....

I think his best moment in a Liverpool shirt was when he did press to win the ball, in the league game away to Chelsea, when he robbed Mikel just outside their box and Maxi scored our opener.

He can do it. If he's moved on, I'm sure it won't be until well into pre-season to give Rodgers a good chance to assess him and the rest of the squad.

[Shanks1965]

I think his best moment in a Liverpool shirt was when he did press to win the ball, in the league game away to Chelsea, when he robbed Mikel just outside their box and Maxi scored our opener.

He can do it. If he's moved on, I'm sure it won't be until well into pre-season to give Rodgers a good chance to assess him and the rest of the squad.

Which is all any of us and the lad can ask for. Give him a chance in the new style of play and see what he can do. If he isnt up to it then his future here is a limited one.

[Nin]

A look in here and the Maxi thread shows that this place is only made up of extremes.Adam had some good games before Lucas got injured, then he was asked to play in a more defensive role which exposed his weaknesses a fair bit.But Adam isn't to blame for that,the club is for not buying an adequate replacement for Lucas.As part of a midfield three or two with Lucas in, he can be a very good squad player.

[USC19Babel]

No business being anywhere near the starting XI in the league unless we've lost all other options to suspension/injury.

[RojoLeón]

Both QPR and Reading would be bad moves in that case.

Shall we do him a favour and talk West Brom into a transfer?

[The G in Gerrard]

Think he could do well for in Europa as he'll get more time on ball (which isn't enough for us). He's poor when not being given time on ball and can't do simple things.

[Pistolero]

the fact he is even in our squad saddens me

not as much as Liverpool fans trying to out smart each other with ever decreasing player put downs saddens me...

[Gifted Right Foot]

maybe if we make a charlie adam 2.5 thread it might improve his tackling

[geoffstrong]

No Rossi got it right Charlie who?











Didn't miss him at all which is why he maybe expendable now. Thought he would do better than he did for us, my mistake.

[Sangria]

A look in here and the Maxi thread shows that this place is only made up of extremes.Adam had some good games before Lucas got injured, then he was asked to play in a more defensive role which exposed his weaknesses a fair bit.But Adam isn't to blame for that,the club is for not buying an adequate replacement for Lucas.As part of a midfield three or two with Lucas in, he can be a very good squad player.

He has certain uses. The questions to ask are whether the team would be best off playing his way, and whether or not he offers sufficient value if he's used as an option. My answer to both questions would be no, firstly because I'd like us to play to another model (the Lucas all rounder model), and secondly because we already had the younger and cheaper Shelvey with all the positives Adam could offer. So I didn't see the point in Adam.

[Cid]

It's a crying shame when folk draw conclusions and make harsh remarks about a guy who's barely notched 30 games. Is this the extenet of the support on RAWK?

Rawk has its favoured sons and its designated whipping boys.  You'll be openly insulted and abused if you criticise some players, you'll have your credentials as a supporter doubted and you'll generally be set upon by a mob mentality.  The same is true if you defend players that the mob has designated fair game.

Now to be fair usually it's performance related..like with konchesky, poulsen etc, (the whole 'support through thick and thin' idea goes out the window if a player is a bit shit) but sometimes it's just a vested interest or an inflated sense of optimism..the most jarring example of rawk's hypocrisy is the universal condemnation of voronin and the militant defense of Carroll despite them having nigh identical records in the shirt.

[Sangria]

Rawk has its favoured sons and its designated whipping boys.  You'll be openly insulted and abused if you criticise some players, you'll have your credentials as a supporter doubted and you'll generally be set upon by a mob mentality.  The same is true if you defend players that the mob has designated fair game.

Now to be fair usually it's performance related..like with konchesky, poulsen etc, (the whole 'support through thick and thin' idea goes out the window if a player is a bit shit) but sometimes it's just a vested interest or an inflated sense of optimism..the most jarring example of rawk's hypocrisy is the universal condemnation of voronin and the militant defense of Carroll despite them having nigh identical records in the shirt.

Not all of us abused Voronin.

[Bakez0151]

A look in here and the Maxi thread shows that this place is only made up of extremes.Adam had some good games before Lucas got injured, then he was asked to play in a more defensive role which exposed his weaknesses a fair bit.But Adam isn't to blame for that,the club is for not buying an adequate replacement for Lucas.As part of a midfield three or two with Lucas in, he can be a very good squad player.

[ryatnalkar]

A look in here and the Maxi thread shows that this place is only made up of extremes.Adam had some good games before Lucas got injured, then he was asked to play in a more defensive role which exposed his weaknesses a fair bit.But Adam isn't to blame for that,the club is for not buying an adequate replacement for Lucas.As part of a midfield three or two with Lucas in, he can be a very good squad player.

This. And oh, just in case it's hurting, it gets worse closer to August 31st, so yeah, buckle up and get ready.

[OrangeMochaFraps]

If the manager decides he's not good enough for a starting spot I wouldn't mind him staying as a squad player.  Sure he had some dreadful games but he also had some incredible ones.  Don't think we should be writing anyone off after one season in a Liverpool kit.