Topic: Gylfi Žór Siguršsson to Liverpool (no Spurs talk)

[B_I_F]

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/sport/football/Premiership/article1052611.ece

Mention of Theo Walcott in there aswell.

Does that warrent a new thread

Article says what?

[Upinsmoke]

I like him but....why can't this current crop of midfielders, Stevie, Adam, Henderson etc score goals? They weren't allowed to last year as far as I'm concerned, I was sick to death of seeing Gerrard in a two man central midfield, Henderson on the right then deep in the middle, same with Adam. Now maybe the loss of Lucas impacted on the likes of Adam, Gerrard etc being given licence to get forward more but under Rodgers they might just get a few more chances higher up the pitch.

[Aaron Cross]

What about a straight swap Sigurdsson for Adam? I reckon Hoffenheim would bite our arms off for deal like that..

[Legendary_Nines]

What about a straight swap Sigurdsson for Adam? I reckon Hoffenheim would bite our arms off for deal like that..

I agree, Adam's corners are worth 10 mill alone

[arcticus]

I like him but....why can't this current crop of midfielders, Stevie, Adam, Henderson etc score goals? They weren't allowed to last year as far as I'm concerned, I was sick to death of seeing Gerrard in a two man central midfield, Henderson on the right then deep in the middle, same with Adam. Now maybe the loss of Lucas impacted on the likes of Adam, Gerrard etc being given licence to get forward more but under Rodgers they might just get a few more chances higher up the pitch.

Adam - 2
Gerrard - 5
Henderson - 1

We need 20 goals from midfield not 8

[koptommy93]

What about a straight swap Sigurdsson for Adam? I reckon Hoffenheim would bite our arms off for deal like that..

What on earth gives you that idea?

[Upinsmoke]

Adam - 2
Gerrard - 5
Henderson - 1

We need 20 goals from midfield not 8

Didnt read what I wrote did you. If Henderson wasn't stuck out on the right half the time last year, If Adam was allowed higher up the pitch as well as Gerrard then maybe, just maybe they might of grabbed a few more. Also Henderson scored two, which might not sound much but it's twice as many as the number you quoted.

[Lenin]

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/sport/football/Premiership/article1052611.ece

Mention of Theo Walcott in there aswell.

Does that warrent a new thread

Dunno, wtf does it say?

[arcticus]

Didnt read what I wrote did you. If Henderson wasn't stuck out on the right half the time last year, If Adam was allowed higher up the pitch as well as Gerrard then maybe, just maybe they might of grabbed a few more. Also Henderson scored two, which might not sound much but it's twice as many as the number you quoted.

Sorry didn't exactly want to quote you, just wanted to state that we needed more goals from midfield and Gylfi is exactly what we need

[kiwiscouser]

He's 22, a great prospect, would cost less than £10million, and has a great relationship with our new manager. I don't really see the negatives in at least looking at him?

And I know its a cliché, but if he was English, his price tag would be closer to £20million.

Shall we start calling him the new Jordan Henderson then?

[arcticus]

Shall we start calling him the new Jordan Henderson then?

[Malaysian Kopite]

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/sport/football/Premiership/article1052611.ece

Mention of Theo Walcott in there aswell.

Does that warrent a new thread

I just love how they've managed to get Walcott in there.

[redforlife]

We're in no position to start turning our noses up at players just because they don't have a big name.  If Rodgers wants him and thinks he'll improve us, and add goals from the middle then that'll do me.

[The Bill Hicks Appreciation Society]

We're in no position to start turning our noses up at players just because they don't have a big name.  If Rodgers wants him and thinks he'll improve us, and add goals from the middle then that'll do me.

15 letters ain't bad, could be worse we could be be going for Li Tie

[G8S7]

If he was a latinamerican with a cool name, people would scream after him.

[Sheik_Yerbouti]

Didnt read what I wrote did you. If Henderson wasn't stuck out on the right half the time last year, If Adam was allowed higher up the pitch as well as Gerrard then maybe, just maybe they might of grabbed a few more. Also Henderson scored two, which might not sound much but it's twice as many as the number you quoted.

Henderson and Adam got forward plenty last season. And Henderson was a main stay in the side, besides of Lucas before his injury, Gerrard and Suarez he's the one who Kenny put most faith in besides the back 5. We might benefit from that during the coming seasons . That he played quite alot on the right is hardly something which should hold him back in terms of scoring and producing assists. The fact is he delivered an extremely poor end product when he found himself in the final third, and that goes for Adam too, they were not good enough last season. Can see Henderson having a much more withdrawn role under Rodgers, if he's not shipped out, he's a tidy passer and a hard worker. He has to step up his game alot imo. If Sigurdsson comes in, then i doubt we'll see anything of Henderson in an advanced position.

[redaaronemma]

Ronnie Whelan was a Manc fan, look how that turned out.

Still is...

[ryatnalkar]

Henderson and Adam got forward plenty last season. And Henderson was a main stay in the side, besides of Lucas before his injury, Gerrard and Suarez he's the one who Kenny put most faith in besides the back 5. We might benefit from that during the coming seasons . That he played quite alot on the right is hardly something which should hold him back in terms of scoring and producing assists. The fact is he delivered an extremely poor end product when he found himself in the final third, and that goes for Adam too, they were not good enough last season. Can see Henderson having a much more withdrawn role under Rodgers, if he's not shipped out, he's a tidy passer and a hard worker. He has to step up his game alot imo. If Sigurdsson comes in, then i doubt we'll see anything of Henderson in an advanced position.

Why would any manager ship out Henderson, who is what 21 and is on low wages and has tremendous potential?

[Sheik_Yerbouti]

Why would any manager ship out Henderson, who is what 21 and is on low wages and has tremendous potential?

Because he might prefer other players. I dont think he will, but i believe it's possible.

As for tremendous potential, i'd strongly disagree with that. In my book that applies to players such as Hazard, Götze, Shaqiri, Munain, Kroos etc.
Anyway this is a Sigurdsson thread and discussing Henderson's potential dont really belong here if there's no context to Sigurdsson.

[socrates the sophist]

Adam - 2
Gerrard - 5
Henderson - 1

We need 20 goals from midfield not 8

To be fair, Gerard is a 20 goal a season player. Charlie also scored a lot of goals for Blackpool. It was their role at Liverpool that prevented them from doing so. Its about giving them the chance to do that. We have Aquilani who could be returning as well. The team seems to me pretty strong if we decide to work with what we have. I would say that our priorities lies in getting the players we have to play as a team. We have pretty good youngsters to work as back ups as well, whether its Sterling, Suso or Pacheco if he's still here.

[Bakez0151]

"Zone 5: The box to box creative midfielders

Flair, the ability to change the pace of the game within a second and an all-round technical ability are required to fulfil the roles in Zone 5. These players are expected to continually find space amongst the 'traffic' and complete the triangles in possession. The players should not constantly look to create the spectacular but are expected to simply knit the possession and keep the ball more often than not. "


That suits Henderson perfectly. Plus when we don't have the ball it's all about pressing and organisation, which suit him as well.

[hollger]

To be fair, Gerard is a 20 goal a season player.

I think Stevie's only scored 20 or more 2 or 3 times in his career, so he's not exactly a "20 goal a season player". He's done it, sure, and I can see him possibly doing it again. He can definitely score more than he's been doing though, depends where he's played next season - and how much he's injured...

[spider-neil]

His shooting technique is incredible, among the best in the league in my opinion, so he scores a fair amount of goals. Also he's a good passer with nice vision and he crosses the ball very well. Set piece specialist too. He's lacks a bit of pace though.

So he's Charlie Adam that is more suited to possession football?

[spider-neil]

Gerrard lack of goals is because his season was blighted by injury and for too many games he was in CM and he isn't going to fill his boots from that position.

[RichardM]

So he's Charlie Adam that is more suited to possession football?

Quicker too.

[arcticus]

"Zone 5: The box to box creative midfielders

Flair, the ability to change the pace of the game within a second and an all-round technical ability are required to fulfil the roles in Zone 5. These players are expected to continually find space amongst the 'traffic' and complete the triangles in possession. The players should not constantly look to create the spectacular but are expected to simply knit the possession and keep the ball more often than not. "


That suits Henderson perfectly. Plus when we don't have the ball it's all about pressing and organisation, which suit him as well.

That's actually the only thing Henderson's done all season

[KirkVanHouten]

No thanks, I'd rather get Belhanda or Ramirez.

[DyingAtheist]

I'd have him here, especially at the touted price, in a heartbeat.
He's young, he's talented, and he's an improvement. Why not?

[spider-neil]

That's actually the only thing Henderson's done all season

What Henderson has done this season hasn't been too eye catching but you transfer that style of play to a team that is defending 20 yards further up the pitch (in turn pushing the attack closer the the forwards/strikers) and what he (Henderson) does becomes devestating with regards to creating space and opening up teams. I see Henderson being a revelation in Rodgers' team.

[zabadoh]

I don't know.  Hijacking the deal from Swansea City right after we've poached their boss, just doesn't seem right.

To be fair Brendan put a big qualifying "if he's available".

We might have to pay Swansea some more compensation if this goes through.

[DyingAtheist]

I don't know.  Hijacking the deal from Swansea City right after we've poached their boss, just doesn't seem right.

To be fair Brendan put a big qualifying "if he's available".

We might have to pay Swansea some more compensation if this goes through.

No reason at all we'd have to pay compensation, he isn't their player.

[Kochevnik]

I'd have him here, especially at the touted price, in a heartbeat.
He's young, he's talented, and he's an improvement. Why not?

Exactly.  If you can grab a player who scores a decent amount of goals from midfield, who already understands the new system the manager wants to play, and is available for around 7 million, you'd be mad not to do so.  Even if he ends up as a squad player (backing up Gerrard, maybe?), there's no way we could find anyone better for that price.  I hope Rodgers can convince him to come, I think he'd be a great purchase.

[luissuarez]

We might have to pay Swansea some more compensation if this goes through.

Yeah, why the fuck not?

What else should we do for them? Bend over at Anfield so they can get 3 pts?

[Tarantino Red]

I don't even think he would be a back-up for Gerrard - I think Rodgers would accomodate them both (if Stevie is fit enough).

I personally think he's too good to spend most of the season on the bench.

From what Rodgers has said, I think he's definitely interested - regardless of Swansea. And knows if he has a word, he will join us. But obviously he had to seem like he was being fair, at least a little.

[bailey90]

He's not their player. We shouldn't have to pay a penny more compensation if we get him.

[DyingAtheist]

Yeah, why the fuck not?

What else should we do for them? Bend over at Anfield so they can get 3 pts?

Alright lad, no need to blow a gasket.
Let's keep it on topic.

[rlpolobear9]

LEt's get real hendo and adams are going no where, spearing is shit and needs to go he's not good enough to be on a team fighting for the top 4. let adams sit deeper and allow this kid to play

[RichardM]

LEt's get real hendo and adams are going no where, spearing is shit and needs to go he's not good enough to be on a team fighting for the top 4. let adams sit deeper and allow this kid to play

How do people STILL get Charlie's name wrong? 

[Tarantino Red]

I actually lol'd reading 'Adams' written twice.

Simple joys.

[Crimson_Tank]

To be fair, Gerard is a 20 goal a season player. Charlie also scored a lot of goals for Blackpool. It was their role at Liverpool that prevented them from doing so. Its about giving them the chance to do that. We have Aquilani who could be returning as well. The team seems to me pretty strong if we decide to work with what we have. I would say that our priorities lies in getting the players we have to play as a team. We have pretty good youngsters to work as back ups as well, whether its Sterling, Suso or Pacheco if he's still here.

Three points here: First, Gerrard is only a 20 goal a season player when he is fit for an entire season and plays behind striker poaching.

Second, Adam scored more then a few of his goals from the penno spot.

Third, I have little hope that Aquilani will be staying here this season, but should he be staying we would have a bit better link up play and more goal threats from midfield. Plus we would have more compitition for CM/CAM spots.