Author Topic: Jurgen Klopp (Read 17239 times)

rocco · « **Reply #80 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:53:01 PM »

Quote from: Name Of The Game on May 28, 2012, 08:51:36 PM

Fake account? No its not.

oh yes it is

killer_heels · « **Reply #81 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:53:23 PM »

At least the owners are targeting big name managers. I have been critical of them and I am hoping we don't get Martinez, but to be fair they have at least approached the likes of Klopp and promising managers like De Boer. If the likes of them and Guardiola and co say no, what exactly can we do about that?

Name Of The Game · « **Reply #82 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:54:06 PM »

Quote from: rocco on May 28, 2012, 08:53:01 PM

oh yes it is

What is this, a pantomime

rocco · « **Reply #83 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:55:40 PM »

Quote from: Name Of The Game on May 28, 2012, 08:54:06 PM

What is this, a pantomime

Has been since Kenny left

Cid · « **Reply #84 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:55:55 PM »

The only slight hope I have of him leaving Dortmund is frustration that he keeps losing quality players to higher profile leagues. How long until gotze, Kagawa, subotic and Hummels are picked up by bigger and better? As good as the bundesliga is, it's not the top table.

shelovesyou · « **Reply #85 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:57:31 PM »

Quote from: killer_heels on May 28, 2012, 08:53:23 PM

At least the owners are targeting big name managers. I have been critical of them and I am hoping we don't get Martinez, but to be fair they have at least approached the likes of Klopp and promising managers like De Boer. If the likes of them and Guardiola and co say no, what exactly can we do about that?

Offer them free tickets to the Yellow Duckmarine ?

CraigDS · « **Reply #86 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:57:50 PM »

It will come down to if he feels he has taken them as far as he can. If he feels winning the league title is the maximum he can do (and has done so twice) then may look for the next job. But if he feels he has more to do there, such as push further in the CL, then he may well do so.

Name Of The Game · « **Reply #87 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:58:03 PM »

Quote from: Cid on May 28, 2012, 08:55:55 PM

The only slight hope I have of him leaving Dortmund is frustration that he keeps losing quality players to higher profile leagues. How long until gotze, Kagawa, subotic and Hummels are picked up by bigger and better? As good as the bundesliga is, it's not the top table.

Maybe he wants to test himself in the PL? I mean how far can he realstically take BVB? Domestic success is about the extent of it and he has done that, more than once. Coming to Liverpool would give him a much better chance long term of European success.

shelovesyou · « **Reply #88 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:59:49 PM »

Quote from: CraigDS on May 28, 2012, 08:57:50 PM

It will come down to if he feels he has taken them as far as he can. If he feels winning the league title is the maximum he can do (and has done so twice) then may look for the next job. But if he feels he has more to do there, such as push further in the CL, then he may well do so.

Agreed, unless there are underlying issues going on, he'll surely want to have a go at the CL.

TLW 84 · « **Reply #89 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:59:58 PM »

Donkey Jurgen Clip Klopps away from Kop, if it all went wrong.

killer_heels · « **Reply #90 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:00:49 PM »

Quote from: Name Of The Game on May 28, 2012, 08:58:03 PM

Maybe he wants to test himself in the PL? I mean how far can he realstically take BVB? Domestic success is about the extent of it and he has done that, more than once. Coming to Liverpool would give him a much better chance long term of European success.

His team has twatted Munich consistently. They struggled in the Champions League but there is certainly the opportunity for him to have them perform better. They are full of internationals so it isn't exatly isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

BazC · « **Reply #91 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:01:49 PM »

Quote from: killer_heels on May 28, 2012, 08:53:23 PM

At least the owners are targeting big name managers. I have been critical of them and I am hoping we don't get Martinez, but to be fair they have at least approached the likes of Klopp and promising managers like De Boer. If the likes of them and Guardiola and co say no, what exactly can we do about that?

Get Rafa in?

Number 7 · « **Reply #92 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:01:52 PM »

Real, Milan, Barca, United, Juve, and Liverpool. When one of the world's top 6 clubs come calling, what do you do?

It depends on how far he thinks he can take this Dortmund team. No doubt there on the verge of something special, and he might want to honor his contract and see what the limits of that team actually are.

Liverpool would be an interesting proposition though, because their ceiling is much higher. Were Dortmund not in a worse position than we are now when Klopp took over there?

I don't think he's coming, but you have to ask yourself the question at least.

RyanBabel19 · « **Reply #93 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:01:53 PM »

Quote from: killer_heels on May 28, 2012, 08:53:23 PM

At least the owners are targeting big name managers. I have been critical of them and I am hoping we don't get Martinez, but to be fair they have at least approached the likes of Klopp and promising managers like De Boer. If the likes of them and Guardiola and co say no, what exactly can we do about that?

Have they approached Klopp though ? According to dortmund they haven't

Aarhus · « **Reply #94 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:02:07 PM »

Great post Aristotle.

It would be fantastic to get Klopp but I don't believe in anything before we announce the new manager.

killer_heels · « **Reply #95 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:03:03 PM »

Quote from: RyanBabel19 on May 28, 2012, 09:01:53 PM

Have they approached Klopp though ? According to dortmund they haven't

He ruled out leaving Dortmund, don't know if it was because of us approaching him or just speculation.

CraigDS · « **Reply #96 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:03:25 PM »

Out of interest, does he work under a DOF type figure at the moment?

CraigDS · « **Reply #97 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:04:15 PM »

Quote from: RyanBabel19 on May 28, 2012, 09:01:53 PM

Have they approached Klopp though ? According to dortmund they haven't

Those comments were from Jan 2011. The only thing that has come out is from Klopp himself in the days (hours? he was fairly quick commenting) after Kenny leaving.

killer_heels · « **Reply #98 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:04:32 PM »

Quote from: BazC on May 28, 2012, 09:01:49 PM

Get Rafa in?

Not convinced he is the right choice, but he is infinitely more qualified than Martinez or Rodgers.

TheYashLFC · « **Reply #99 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:09:46 PM »

Quote from: RyanBabel19 on May 28, 2012, 09:01:53 PM

Have they approached Klopp though ? According to dortmund they haven't

Doesn't look like it. Klopp himself said he's happy at Dortmund and has no intention of leaving. All this Klopp talk started with that Moose guy from TalkSport. He's adament Klopp is joining us but no one else is reporting it.

TheTeflonJohn · « **Reply #100 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:10:37 PM »

Quote from: shook on May 28, 2012, 08:45:21 PM

well there is nothing else we can offer, I think. Dortmund have CL, a project he has helped to develop, a good fanbase, ambitions, better players, etc etc. That's why this is an extremely remote possibility

True. Would love it to happen, just can`t see it.

north · « **Reply #101 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:11:01 PM »

Hasn't Klopp publicly stated his love for Borussia Dortmund? Haven't spent any time researching such queries, but here in Sweden our most notable football journalist had a big feature on Klopp and his love and relationship to the club and their fans on football show recently.

With that said, given that view is fairly accurate, the only reason for Klopp to leave Dortmund now or in coming years would be some sort of disagreement or dislike with the internal politics of the club (e.g. selling star players, and whatnot).

But since Klopp signed a contract extension (until 2016) in January I would assume that he's quite content with the current situation (the Kagawa rumours could never in a million years be the single source of some sort of 'frustration' - that situation has been ongoing since September).

My guess would be:
1) FSG's interest in Klopp gets known by media and the 'sources'
2) Media (and others) somehow makes a 'scoop' given that 'information' (i.e. 1 + 1 = 4)
3) Rumours arise...

Huge difference between being keen on someone and having some remote chance of signing that individual?

Rafas the man · « **Reply #102 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:11:49 PM »

In an ideal world I think he would be nearly everyones number 1 pick, well between him and Pep. Pissing in the wind if you think we are getting him though, has something really special going on with Dortmund. If a ridiculous wage and hefty transfer budget are enough to prise him away then I will be ecstatic, plus the fact I put £2 on him at 300/1 when he ruled himself out...however in reality, really think we have zero chance.

RyanBabel19 · « **Reply #103 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:11:58 PM »

Quote from: CraigDS on May 28, 2012, 09:04:15 PM

Those comments were from Jan 2011. The only thing that has come out is from Klopp himself in the days (hours? he was fairly quick commenting) after Kenny leaving.

Okay my mistake.

Would be a brilliant move if we got Klopp but personally i think we have more chance of signing Xavi. Suprised this thread is open (along with the rafa one)

Tepid water · « **Reply #104 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:12:18 PM »

They may want Klopp, but they won't get him.

BazC · « **Reply #105 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:13:12 PM »

Quote from: killer_heels on May 28, 2012, 09:04:32 PM

Not convinced he is the right choice, but he is infinitely more qualified than Martinez or Rodgers.

Out of all the realistic options I think he's by far the best. Saying that, even with the pipe dreams of Pep and Klopp, there'd still be a risk factor due to the different club environment, different league etc. With Rafa that wouldn't really be the case.

It's a no brainer for me when you look at it on paper. Well, from a purely footballing perspective- maybe they're turned off by his role with the politicking and outing the previous owners regarding spending etc. No doubt that would be a massive turn off for this lot (I mean all owners would be turned off by a manager who kicked up a fuss with regards to financial constraints etc. pressed onto them).

I dunno, this whole thing's just a bit intriguing when looking at it from the DoF angle as well. They clearly want to add more key decision makers and split responsibilities (makes sense if you're looking at any other enterprise, but football clubs are different.... but then do they need to have so much power concentrated on one man?)

Name Of The Game · « **Reply #106 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:15:50 PM »

The fella who did the interview with Talksport is not an employee of them is he? He was just reporting what he had been told by TWO different sources.

He said things had moved very quickly, so maybe thats why it hasnt been picked up over here. You would assume that due to him working in the USA his sources are coming from the FSG end of things.

Joga · « **Reply #107 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:18:52 PM »

Quote from: royhendo on May 28, 2012, 08:51:44 PM

The guy Kreger is a CBS Sports Reporter and a talking head on the radio, much like Marcotti, Hoenigstein and co.

is there a concrete link then? Seeing as the thread is open...

TomDcs · « **Reply #108 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:21:21 PM »

Something about jizzfest

Melbred · « **Reply #109 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:22:47 PM »

Quote from: Joga on May 28, 2012, 09:18:52 PM

is there a concrete link then? Seeing as the thread is open...

Depends on what you consider to be "concrete".

north · « **Reply #110 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:24:17 PM »

Quote from: Name Of The Game on May 28, 2012, 09:15:50 PM

The fella who did the interview with Talksport is not an employee of them is he?

He works for CBS Sports (a massive Tottenham supporter in other news).

phoenician · « **Reply #111 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:25:35 PM »

Quote from: Joga on May 28, 2012, 09:18:52 PM

is there a concrete link then? Seeing as the thread is open...

@johnkreger is the only one I'm aware of.

Not sure if his talking head bit on TalkSport is available through their site. He recorded it yesterday or the day before, apparently making the same claims as he subsequently did on Twitter.

SadRed · « **Reply #112 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:26:29 PM »

Atleast they are after the right person

Andichrist · « **Reply #113 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:26:56 PM »

Found it interesting (but not necessarily surprising) that he says denying in public is part and parcel of the deal a prospective manager will have with american owners. If that is indeed the case, and the candidates do as told, then not even journalists will have a sniff at what's happening. Basically the only thing we know is about Martinez, and that's only because DW can't keep his mouth shut for two consecutive minutes.

TheTeflonJohn · « **Reply #114 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:27:39 PM »

Quote from: Aristotle on May 28, 2012, 08:51:36 PM

Thanks for that Ari. Some good information there that I didn`t know. Makes me want him more now although sadly I`d be very suprised if he came here.

Zeb · « **Reply #115 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:27:53 PM »

Would like to dream.

So, FSG are looking for a tactically astute coach. One who will work within financial restrictions, within a collaborative structure, and who has a track record of success. It's no surprise that they have been looking at Klopp - the surprise would be if they hadn't, and his was one of the names touted right at the start by senor sauces. Any team with any ambition without a manager should be looking at Dortmund and wondering if they are within the 4 clubs worldwide who Klopp once said he believes can match what he has at Dortmund - in fact, are they in the smaller subset which can provide the financial oomph which will allow him more elbow room rather than having to rely on the emotional bonds (as he once put it) to keep the team together?

Are we one of those clubs? I'm not sure any more.

north · « **Reply #116 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:29:18 PM »

Quote from: Andichrist on May 28, 2012, 09:26:56 PM

Found it interesting (but not necessarily surprising) that he says denying in public is part and parcel of the deal a prospective manager will have with american owners. If that is indeed the case, and the candidates do as told, then not even journalists will have a sniff at what's happening. Basically the only thing we know is about Martinez, and that's only because DW can't keep his mouth shut for two consecutive minutes.

Still seems a bit odd that if Klopp would be lined up, why would Martinez have a second meeting with FSG tomorrow? My money is still on Roberto Martinez, and if is opposed to the Technical Director and Sporting Director roles I would assume Brendan Rodgers is FSG's backup alternative.

Andichrist · « **Reply #117 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:32:43 PM »

Quote from: north on May 28, 2012, 09:29:18 PM

Still seems a bit odd that if Klopp would be lined up, why would Martinez have a second meeting with FSG tomorrow? My money is still on Roberto Martinez, and if is opposed to the Technical Director and Sporting Director roles I would assume Brendan Rodgers is FSG's backup alternative.

Clearly Martinez is one of candidates. But that's really all we know for certain. Is all I'm saying.

gorgepir · « **Reply #118 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:33:23 PM »

Looks more like random speculation to me.

Would have been great though.

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #119 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:33:30 PM »

Once again, we leak that we're looking at klopp, guardiola etc when we have no chance or even intention to get them, just keep the fans happy because clearly we're all thick as shit and buy it.

This martinez deal could of been concluded so much earlier, just drawing out the inevitable.