Author Topic: Jurgen Klopp (Read 17238 times)

royhendo · « **on:** May 28, 2012, 03:54:00 PM »

OK - so he's been linked. What do we know about him?

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I like Hoenigstein's portrayals of him.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/apr/16/borussia-dortmund-bundesliga-title

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Hungry wolves of Dortmund win title and give Bayern a lesson in desire

Jürgen Klopp's low-budget Borussia Dortmund showed unity – and unlike Bayern Munich played with an insatiable will to win

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Dortmund's coach, Jürgen Klopp, has built a side who have won a second successive Bundesliga title at a canter. Photograph: Christof Stache/AFP/Getty Images
They tried winding them up, putting up an "Are you missing something?" banner alongside what looked like the remnants of a captured opposition flag. They tried ear-drum busting noise, whistling a thousand whistles. They tried some voodoo, too: 30 litres of pig blood were spilt outside the away supporters' stadium entrance. But nothing the Royal Blues did on and off the pitch, including taking an 11th-minute lead (Jefferson Farfán), could derail the runaway freight-train that Jürgen Klopp's side have been this season. The right-back Lukasz Piszczek's phenomenal equaliser (17min) and a goal from the second-half substitute Sebastian Kehl (63min) swung the match and effectively won the title for "Borussia Unstoppable" (Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung). At Schalke's Veltins-Arena, of all places.

Royal Blue attempts "to spit in our soup", as Klopp put it, might have been more successful on Saturday if their strikers had shown their usual accuracy. Both Klaas-Jan Huntelaar and the desert-bound Raúl missed good chances, however, to let Dortmund off the hook. "Looking at my team, you could sense how intense Wednesday [against Bayern Munich] had been and how intense it was today against a really strong opponent," said a triumphant Klopp. "We squeezed out the very last we still had in ourselves after this unbelievable week. At the end it was slightly fortunate but that's not too bad."

Final whistle euphoria gave way to pogo-dancing and caterpillar-forming: "German champions: only BVB," their supporters were singing. The only thing really missing was the trophy, a beer shower or at least mathematical certainty of the Meisterschaft. But the two more necessary points will surely be won over the course of the remaining three games. "We haven't achieved nothing yet" – the Borussia president Reinhard Rauball's overly cautious opinion was, for once, contradicted by the ecstatic Klopp. "You can't win everything at a canter over the course of such a long season," said the 44-year-old, "maybe two, three teams in the world could do it but not in Germany. But [a record] 25 games unbeaten – that's insane. It was inconceivable that we would do that."

If staying at the top is indeed harder than getting there, then Dortmund's successful title defence is even more impressive and surprising than last year's start-to-finish dominance. The win at Schalke didn't quite showcase the attacking prowess of Robert Lewandowski and Shinji Kagawa but was testament to the kind of application and physical commitment that is unrivalled in Europe, Antonio Conte's hard-working Juventus notwithstanding. Theirs is the sock-destroying football of the credit crunch, borne out of the need to get ahead by sheer sweat and innovation, without the sort of resources that buy you the ability to make mistakes.

It's not just that they want it more than their opponents during games: "wanting it" is their game. Dortmund are constantly chasing something at a million miles per hour, whether it's the ball, the opposition, space or the goal, and they rarely allow themselves a breather. A substitution best summed up their incredibly intensity. Marathon man Sven Bender, just back from injury, didn't have his usual stamina and asked Klopp to hook him off at half-time. "It was a match at 120 kilometres but I could only do 90," the midfielder explained.

"Greed at the highest level" is how Klopp put it on Saturday, while others, such as their former coach Ottmar Hitzfeld praised their never-ending "hunger". Dortmund didn't play like champions nor like champions-elect as Bayern's did, but like a team that had never won anything significant before and couldn't wait to taste victory. They should go down as the Insatiables in Bundesliga history.

Even the Bayern president Uli Hoeness agreed that Dortmund had been "the hungrier team" over the course of the season, but that compliment was a back-handed one. "I will only tell them "chapeau" [respect] when they can perform like this in the league and in Europe," said the 60-year-old, implying that Bayern players had been too preoccupied with the Champions League to perform with Dortmund-like urgency.

One suspects that Klopp is more than happy that the media and Bayern, their German Cup final opposition, are concentrating on his team's mental and physical staying power. That way, less light is shed on his superlative tactics. Without the perfect synchronicity of attack, midfield and defence, all that "wanting" would just be aimless roving, not laser-guided "hunt football", as Süddeutsche Zeitung described it. Everything fitted so well together that one could become a believer in Intelligent Design: Dortmund have a young, talented team who follow their young, talented manager with cult-like fervour. They have fanatical, patient fans, a supportive local press and they're a club that have learned from their excesses in the past to invest smartly in up-and-coming players rather than in the finished superstar articles.

"They had to do it that way because they don't have the money," Hoeness said sourly in a Sky interview, before changing tack and accusing the Dortmund general manager Hans-Joachim Watzke of hypocrisy. "He should stop talking about them being poor and us being rich, otherwise he will be the new [former Werder Bremen chief] Willi Lemke. He shouldn't tell fairytales about their whole team costing only €45m in wages."

Watzke coolly pointed to officially audited numbers that backed up the claim, then pleaded for less aggro. "We should get away from the idea that you need to hammer someone in order to show him your respect," he said.

Hoeness also said Dortmund didn't have any world-class players. That's surely debatable but even if it was true, it would only reflect superbly on the work Klopp and his side have done. Where it gets interesting is next season. With key players' wages set to be increased again and more high-profile names like Marco Reus coming in, can Dortmund keep playing like a pack of starving wolves? Should they indeed keep playing that way in the light of their failure on the European stage?

"'Stay hungry' is a recipe for success but an inhuman demand at the same time," wrote FAZ, "because feeling full after success is the most natural feeling in the world." Only time will tell if money, success and better players, the very things that are widely seen as integral to every club's well-being, will take this Dortmund to another level or slowly, invisibly undermine their resolve.

I saw them play at The Emirates late last year. They were well organised and fun to watch, albeit they lost key players through injury. Over to you lot.

royhendo · « **Reply #1 on:** May 28, 2012, 03:55:56 PM »

There was also an article that talked about how he took time to compensate for the loss of Sahin, effectively blooding his replacement over a few months until he reinstated that balance to their side. I like that in a manager, to paraphrase Tom Skerritt in Top Gun.

babraham · « **Reply #2 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:00:03 PM »

I really shouldn't get my hopes up. This thread isn't helping Roy!

Number 7 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:07:21 PM »

So the fact that this thread is open means there is a genuine link? Who's linking him to us Roy?

DeclanYNWA · « **Reply #4 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:11:33 PM »

He made another statement saying we never even made an approach

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"There has been no approach and there's no point talking about it," Klopp told the Guardian.

However, Dortmund chief executive Hans-Joachim Watzke has extinguished any hopes of Klopp departing the German giants.

"There's been no official approach because it would be a waste of time," he said.

"Everybody knows there's no chance we'd let him go. We can but laugh [about this story]. Jürgen is a friend of mine and he has a contract until 2014. He would never break it."

Raul! · « **Reply #5 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:12:18 PM »

Lends himself beautifully to Red and White Klopp. Other than that, why, Roy?

killer_heels · « **Reply #6 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:12:33 PM »

Any more links? I thought he ruled himself out?

scatman · « **Reply #7 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:13:50 PM »

hes ruled himself out according to him and his boss

Kopite B205 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:15:34 PM »

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/extra-time/120528/kreger-jurgen-klopps-liverpool-future-173068

Cpt_Reina · « **Reply #9 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:16:01 PM »

Quote from: scatman on May 28, 2012, 08:13:50 PM

hes ruled himself out according to him and his boss

But The Moose has ruled him very much in.

I dont know who to believe

jimmyred2010 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:16:05 PM »

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/extra-time/120528/kreger-jurgen-klopps-liverpool-future-173068

Raul! · « **Reply #11 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:16:27 PM »

Klopp a doodle do

Vork+The Knights of Good · « **Reply #12 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:16:52 PM »

If FSG could create their perfect Manager in a laboratory it would come out as Jurgen Klopp.

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #13 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:17:05 PM »

Kop Cop Klopp

been done?

Raul! · « **Reply #14 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:17:54 PM »

Quote from: Bob Loblaw on May 28, 2012, 08:17:05 PM

Kop Cop Klopp

been done?

T shirt.

DeclanYNWA · « **Reply #15 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:19:03 PM »

Hmmmmmm talk shite. About as true as myself being named manager. Not a worse source of truth than talksport. Babelcopter reporters.

rocco · « **Reply #16 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:19:44 PM »

Can't even get my hopes up here as there's no chance .

killer_heels · « **Reply #17 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:20:04 PM »

Klopp around the clock tonight, were gonna Klopp Klopp Klopp till broad daylight?

Pinhead · « **Reply #18 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:20:19 PM »

Quote from: Vork+The Knights of Good on May 28, 2012, 08:16:52 PM

If FSG could create their perfect Manager in a laboratory it would come out as Jurgen Klopp.

Spot on

El Ninos Black Eye · « **Reply #19 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:20:20 PM »

Quote from: royhendo on May 28, 2012, 03:55:56 PM

There was also an article that talked about how he took time to compensate for the loss of Sahin, effectively blooding his replacement over a few months until he reinstated that balance to their side. I like that in a manager, to paraphrase Tom Skerritt in Top Gun.

Is this one of his teamtalks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p890hIa1w9k

Suarez would be Maverick (Downing would be Cougar)

Zlenpasha · « **Reply #20 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:21:06 PM »

No real point in this thread as he clearly said he isn't going anywhere. #fuckhope

Guz-kop · « **Reply #21 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:21:21 PM »

We are the famous, the famous kloppites

Raul! · « **Reply #22 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:21:46 PM »

Top Klopp.

andspecks · « **Reply #23 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:22:14 PM »

Rafa said many times that Xabi Alonso wasn't leaving Liverpool didn't he?

killer_heels · « **Reply #24 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:22:36 PM »

Top of the Klopps.

CraigDS · « **Reply #25 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:23:06 PM »

In before the klock.

Raul! · « **Reply #26 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:23:17 PM »

Quote from: killer_heels on May 28, 2012, 08:22:36 PM

Top of the Klopps.

can't Klopp that.

rocco · « **Reply #27 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:24:06 PM »

Why would he leave Dortmund just as his creation is still growing into something very special ?

TheTeflonJohn · « **Reply #28 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:25:10 PM »

After reading that article I think he would be a fool to come here. I`d love him to come, just can`t see it. He`s in the middle of something great there and I personally wouldn`t risk all that to come here.

LiverLuke · « **Reply #29 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:25:21 PM »

so has the babel one been replaced with a helikloppter?

killer_heels · « **Reply #30 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:25:26 PM »

Talksport seems such a rubbish source. Plus, director of football? Why would a young coach take up that role?

Kopite B205 · « **Reply #31 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:25:35 PM »

Quote from: Zlenpasha on May 28, 2012, 08:21:06 PM

No real point in this thread as he clearly said he isn't going anywhere. #fuckhope

Nobody knows anything for sure. There were quotes from Klopp last week - not directly relating to us, but does anybody know if these are fresh quotes in relation to our approach?

One thing seems apparent though, and that is FSG are very keen.

David H · « **Reply #32 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:26:15 PM »

Quote from: rocco on May 28, 2012, 08:24:06 PM

Why would he leave Dortmund just as his creation is still growing into something very special ?

He wouldnt?

he has already said hes had no contact and wont be leaving so not sure why this thread is still here

shook · « **Reply #33 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:26:24 PM »

Quote from: rocco on May 28, 2012, 08:24:06 PM

Why would he leave Dortmund just as his creation is still growing into something very special ?

Money would be the only reason, but its still extremely unlikely we get him. Personally if we could get whoever the DoF at Dortmund is, that might be even better. Wasn't their starting lineup only bought for 15 million or something outrageous like that?

Kopite B205 · « **Reply #34 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:26:29 PM »

Quote from: killer_heels on May 28, 2012, 08:25:26 PM

Talksport seems such a rubbish source. Plus, director of football? Why would a young coach take up that role?

I think the headline is a typo/mistake. The report relates to the managers position.

lamonti · « **Reply #35 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:27:00 PM »

He is the man, Thomas. In mein eyes at least. Can barely even believe he's been "linked" with our fucking car crash. Don't believe it for a second.

killer_heels · « **Reply #36 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:27:25 PM »

Quote from: Kopite B205 on May 28, 2012, 08:26:29 PM

I think the headline is a typo/mistake. The report relates to the managers position.

Ah right, apologies.

Shabby · « **Reply #37 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:29:21 PM »

Quote from: CraigDS on May 28, 2012, 08:23:06 PM

In before the klock.

TLW 84 · « **Reply #38 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:29:49 PM »

Quote from: DeclanYNWA on May 28, 2012, 08:11:33 PM

He made another statement saying we never even made an approach

That was last year.

YnWa99 · « **Reply #39 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:30:25 PM »

Highly unlikely. But, I guess he could be a massive fan of our club and it's (somewhat difficult to see nowadays) ethos. Perhaps he sees himself as a man that can bring the good times back and win us number 19. He'd risk everything he's done at BD so far, and possibly tarnish his relatively young career, but perhaps he's got balls.