Topic: Kenny Dalglish

[anky21]

Beautiful read, i wasnt lucky enough to be born in the bootroom era but iam proud to say i witnessed the man they call the King grace the dugout of Anfield once again.

[something awful]

I hope no-one ever has to do for any club what Kenny took upon himself to do for Liverpool. For me I'll always consider him one of the greatest men in my lifetime. I was never fortunate enough to see him play, was too young to see his first run managing the club, but he's a living legend as far as I'm concerned, even without his career.

Love the man, I hope one day I can shake his hand and tell him what I think of him.

[jckliew]

amen. grew up in uk in kennys era. my feeling is the soul in the prsent liverpool fc
is losT.

[BBS]

Such a legend and true red. Thanks for that. Warms my heart that im a young un and still got to witness the king leading the red men to a trophy.

But where does Fowler enter the holy trinity? ;-)

[Dr. Beaker]

Kenny is bigger than the club.

I have a greater respect and loyalty to him now than the club. Some may say this is wrong, but that's the way it is.

[gb096]

I grew up like many on here with Kenny as my idol, I had his picture on my wall and I even wrote an essay on him for a school exam!! He is the perfect gentleman and an example too many. I will miss his face in the dug out and feel that in a way he was misled. He should have been given a 1 year contract so if it did not work out he could have left without being sacked. I hope to see him in the stands next season, in my eyes his stature has grown not diminished.

[gritsvanilla]

Such a legend and true red. Thanks for that. Warms my heart that im a young un and still got to witness the king leading the red men to a trophy.

But where does Fowler enter the holy trinity? ;-)

No disrespect to God but he doesn't.

The holy trinity is for the 3 men who have truly shaped the identity and beliefs of this club, Bill, Bob and Kenny are for me the symbols and ideologies that make this club so unique and so special, i'd make a case for both Joe and Rafa too but great a player as Robbie was he's not quite in the same category as those 5.

[Jagged Princess]

Absolutely well said CTR! Sick of seeing snide comments about how it was right to sack Kenny, sack Kenny, those words resonate so much when you type them that it’s hard to put into words what you really want to say to these people and those who wanted him gone before the end of the season, some of whom I’ve noticed haven’t posted on here since they got their wish.

As for FSG, I was willing to give them a chance, give them time to get things right, to get this Club back to being ‘top dog’ and back on our ‘perch’ and on a more stable financial footing.  Well that time is running down on the clock, after the disgraceful way they’ve used Kenny. 

Kenny Dalglish is a living legend of this football club, he epitomises everything we knew to be the old Liverpool Way and a gentleman to boot and I’m so disheartened with the way he’s been treated. 

Liverpool Football Club is not just about money, we have standards too!

Shankly. Paisley. Dalglish.

[Mr Rossi]

Kenny is bigger than the club.

I have a greater respect and loyalty to him now than the club. Some may say this is wrong, but that's the way it is.

No one is bigger then the club. Even Kenny would tell you that.

Love the guy to bits though, he was and still is my hero and anyone who disrespects or bad mouths him is a twat.

[RedSuarez]

Well said CTR. I was blessed to watch redmen with Kenny at helm when he was appointed as Manager after owl Left and I am thankful for that.

[KirkVanHouten]

Excellent post I'm thankful for you posting this in light of the shower of shit that has rained down on this place in the past week or so.

[kopite_sg8]

well written post I have to say. can I just ask one sincere question to all of you who have already posted. I too have read through many posts the last couple of days. the "kenny can do no wrong" sarcastic posts etc etc. a legend like him cannot be disrespected. but when you mention those people I hope you're not including a few people who are between the two extremists. iam one of the few maybe who want the owners to get it right. its just a desperate hope I know but for two reasons I still maintain hope
1. because thats the only way I know personally to deal with kenny's sacking. its was devastating when it happened and still pains me to this day. I cannot think about it anymore hence m trying to convince myself that they'll get it right knowing perfectly that there are more chances of them getting it wrong! but I sincerely hope that this does not come accross as an act of disrespect to kenny.

2. secondly, the events of the summer 2 years ago has left its scars on the club and they still exist. I simple dont want to through that again. im hoping we dont need the internet terrorists and court dates etc. this summer. iam not afraid to admit that iam showing some blind faith towards the owners but its not because I know them inside out, its only a desperate hope iam hanging on to.
 

all I want is to wait for them to implement their plans and then criticize them if needed. but as you mentioned there are people who are going as far as insulting legends to defend the owners. but iam not one of them, iam just so confused about the club.

[something awful]

well written post I have to say. can I just ask one sincere question to all of you who have already posted. I too have read through many posts the last couple of days. the "kenny can do no wrong" sarcastic posts etc etc. a legend like him cannot be disrespected. but when you mention those people I hope you're not including a few people who are between the two extremists. iam one of the few maybe who want the owners to get it right. its just a desperate hope I know but for two reasons I still maintain hope
1. because thats the only way I know personally to deal with kenny's sacking. its was devastating when it happened and still pains me to this day. I cannot think about it anymore hence m trying to convince myself that they'll get it right knowing perfectly that there are more chances of them getting it wrong! but I sincerely hope that this does not come accross as an act of disrespect to kenny.

2. secondly, the events of the summer 2 years ago has left its scars on the club and they still exist. I simple dont want to through that again. im hoping we dont need the internet terrorists and court dates etc. this summer. iam not afraid to admit that iam showing some blind faith towards the owners but its not because I know them inside out, its only a desperate hope iam hanging on to.
 

all I want is to wait for them to implement their plans and then criticize them if needed. but as you mentioned there are people who are going as far as insulting legends to defend the owners. but iam not one of them, iam just so confused about the club.

I get where you're coming from, but I think this thread is more to celebrate the man himself, not to discuss the owners.

[-RedTilDead-]

Nice post

Made me feel proud and happy that we got to have Kenny in charge again for a second time,  but at the same time angry at how he has been treated, and sad that  people feel that they need to explain why Kenny needs defending.

The religious analogies are a little much for me but to enter the spirit of them for a second, the sad thing is that you are preaching to the converted and the heathens and the heretics aren't really listening, or that interested;  they don't want to pray to the old gods. The second coming was scrapped because we didn't find the holy grail in time.

[jillc]

Great post, sums up how a lot of us feel about the man.

[No666]

Thanks CTR -  for trying to explain the need for some basic courtesy towards the King.

[kopite_sg8]

I get where you're coming from, but I think this thread is more to celebrate the man himself, not to discuss the owners.

yeah.sorry ... I just wanted to clarify if I was unknowingly disrespecting him in any way. but agree to most of the posters here. in my eyes his name will never get tarnished at this club with whatever the idiots are saying. if anything, my love for him goes higher.

[matt120979]

Such a shame it has come to this.

Kenny Dalglish YNWA.

[Discipline]

Well in.

[worthers]

Ditto. Good work la.

[Gnurglan]

The reason I picked up the number 7 shirt for my first ever game. My only football hero. Even when things went the wrong way, he picked up a trophy before the exit.

[Johnnowhite]

There is an awful lot of vitriol on this site at the minute.  Its been that way for a few years to be honest.

From those who thought, in 2007, that Gillett and Hicks were like Noah and his missus... about to sail us away on an ark to salvation  (and others who thought we'd be shipwrecked).

Then there was the pro/anti-Rafa divide.

Some thought he was Moses, and would lead us to the Promised Land.  Many more thought we would be slaves for ever.


Now its FSG.  Some who trust. Others who need to have trust earned. And a sizeable number who won't ever get on board.


I have a major problem, and its this.  I can't wait for some of the replies I'm gonna get....and in a way its kind of going to confirm what I have been thinking for a while (but I'll wait to see).


To me, following the biblical thing, Kenny Dalglish is, and always has been, Jesus Christ.  Yes, maybe there was a Holy Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Ghost. For those read Shankly, Paisley and Dalglish in whichever order you choose. (I'd have Shanks as the Big Boy, Paisley as the Spirit, but Kenny as the Jesus figure).


Thats how I have regarded Kenny Dalglish all my life.  He was the greatest footballer I ever saw.  I first saw him play at Ibrox, when I was 10. I was in the Celtic end, a few months after the disaster, and Celtic won 3-0.  A young fella came on as sub.  Dalglish.

When I went to my first match to see Liverpool play, in Belfast, 1977;  there was a new lad not playing, but just arrived at the club... Dalglish.

When I went to my second Liverpool match, that fella scored the only goal, and whats more...  I got to kiss him after he scored.  Dalglish.


For 25 years (and a bit more), Kenny Dalglish never, ever, put a foot wrong in his life.

He was a model trainee, at Celtic.   I know this, because the man who does my car tyres now was a Celtic trainee at that time.  Dalglish used to give my mate Kevin McCool a lift to training. And he was a role model when he was 20.

He was the greatest player we ever had, and Scotland ever had.

He married, raised kids. He never played away, did he?  His standards of behaviour, the kids he raised... he is a role model that our society would do well to try and copy.  A fucking perfect gentleman.

He managed us in the true manner of all he'd been taught....as the LAST member of The Liverpool Way Club.  Success a plenty; but achieved in the right way.

Then he did what no man should expect to ever do.  He leads out HIS team...LIVERPOOL... to a European Cup Final in 1985.   Then, if thats not enough, he does the same and worse (much, much worse) as a young manager, 4 years later in Sheffield.

I'm not going to go on and spell out what Kenny Dalglish then did. How he fought tragedy at home due to his wife's illness.  Or the Charity work he did. How he coped with severe PTSD.  And eventually how he answered the call to try to unite a fractured Club in the aftermath of their worst disaster since 1989.  He answered the call, but probably knew he was drinking out a poisoned chalice.  How he would not get the chance to reacquaint himself with the running of a team after 15+ years away.  No. He was a lame duck.

He was called by the paymasters, because he was the only one they knew they could ask. Imagine had they asked Martinez then?  After Hodgson?  There'd been riots in April.

So, these Americans called on Dalglish, my living God, to save them from disaster.  And Kenny Dalglish, being what and who he is, said OK.





The rest you all know.



The purpose of this conversation (and even if its only between me, and me) is this.

No man who ever wants to be connected. In any way whatever. With Liverpool Football Club. Has, or will ever, earn the credentials, the savoir faire, or the affection of me, and many many thousands like me. Without acknowledging the debt we owe to a small, big man, from Southwest Glasgow.  Any c*nt who ever hurts or tries to damage THIS MESSIAH of ours, will need to go through us first.

So OWNERS.  SPAWNY BLERT 'FANS' from wherever you come.   Do not EVER try to disturb the legend of Kenny Dalglish.  Because I and Liverpool supporters like me will not let you do that.  Theres only three in our trinity.


SHANKLY.  PAISLEY.   DALGLISH.

You attack one of them, you attack us all.

A superb valediction for a superb human being Shaun - and this is as you will know, from a Manc Red. Love the passion and the conviction you brought to the post mate. FSG have sinned grievously and they need to be chastised for their sin against a Liverpool legend.

Whilst Kenny was a massively talented player, the only bit of your post I couldn' t agree with was the claim that he was Scotland's greatest player. I think - for my lifetime at least - that honour should go to Denis Law.

[Alonso_The_Assassin]

Once again, cowtownred has delivered the perfect summation of the living legend that is Kenny Dalglish. Great stuff.

[geoffstrong]

Cowtownred could not have put that any better, great post and a true reflection of how many feel , and others should feel.

[Johnnowhite]

There is an awful lot of vitriol on this site at the minute.  Its been that way for a few years to be honest.

From those who thought, in 2007, that Gillett and Hicks were like Noah and his missus... about to sail us away on an ark to salvation  (and others who thought we'd be shipwrecked).

Then there was the pro/anti-Rafa divide.

Some thought he was Moses, and would lead us to the Promised Land.  Many more thought we would be slaves for ever.


Now its FSG.  Some who trust. Others who need to have trust earned. And a sizeable number who won't ever get on board.


I have a major problem, and its this.  I can't wait for some of the replies I'm gonna get....and in a way its kind of going to confirm what I have been thinking for a while (but I'll wait to see).


To me, following the biblical thing, Kenny Dalglish is, and always has been, Jesus Christ.  Yes, maybe there was a Holy Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Ghost. For those read Shankly, Paisley and Dalglish in whichever order you choose. (I'd have Shanks as the Big Boy, Paisley as the Spirit, but Kenny as the Jesus figure).


Thats how I have regarded Kenny Dalglish all my life.  He was the greatest footballer I ever saw.  I first saw him play at Ibrox, when I was 10. I was in the Celtic end, a few months after the disaster, and Celtic won 3-0.  A young fella came on as sub.  Dalglish.

When I went to my first match to see Liverpool play, in Belfast, 1977;  there was a new lad not playing, but just arrived at the club... Dalglish.

When I went to my second Liverpool match, that fella scored the only goal, and whats more...  I got to kiss him after he scored.  Dalglish.


For 25 years (and a bit more), Kenny Dalglish never, ever, put a foot wrong in his life.

He was a model trainee, at Celtic.   I know this, because the man who does my car tyres now was a Celtic trainee at that time.  Dalglish used to give my mate Kevin McCool a lift to training. And he was a role model when he was 20.

He was the greatest player we ever had, and Scotland ever had.

He married, raised kids. He never played away, did he?  His standards of behaviour, the kids he raised... he is a role model that our society would do well to try and copy.  A fucking perfect gentleman.

He managed us in the true manner of all he'd been taught....as the LAST member of The Liverpool Way Club.  Success a plenty; but achieved in the right way.

Then he did what no man should expect to ever do.  He leads out HIS team...LIVERPOOL... to a European Cup Final in 1985.   Then, if thats not enough, he does the same and worse (much, much worse) as a young manager, 4 years later in Sheffield.

I'm not going to go on and spell out what Kenny Dalglish then did. How he fought tragedy at home due to his wife's illness.  Or the Charity work he did. How he coped with severe PTSD.  And eventually how he answered the call to try to unite a fractured Club in the aftermath of their worst disaster since 1989.  He answered the call, but probably knew he was drinking out a poisoned chalice.  How he would not get the chance to reacquaint himself with the running of a team after 15+ years away.  No. He was a lame duck.

He was called by the paymasters, because he was the only one they knew they could ask. Imagine had they asked Martinez then?  After Hodgson?  There'd been riots in April.

So, these Americans called on Dalglish, my living God, to save them from disaster.  And Kenny Dalglish, being what and who he is, said OK.





The rest you all know.



The purpose of this conversation (and even if its only between me, and me) is this.

No man who ever wants to be connected. In any way whatever. With Liverpool Football Club. Has, or will ever, earn the credentials, the savoir faire, or the affection of me, and many many thousands like me. Without acknowledging the debt we owe to a small, big man, from Southwest Glasgow.  Any c*nt who ever hurts or tries to damage THIS MESSIAH of ours, will need to go through us first.

So OWNERS.  SPAWNY BLERT 'FANS' from wherever you come.   Do not EVER try to disturb the legend of Kenny Dalglish.  Because I and Liverpool supporters like me will not let you do that.  Theres only three in our trinity.


SHANKLY.  PAISLEY.   DALGLISH.

You attack one of them, you attack us all.

A superb valediction for a superb human being Shaun - and this is as you will know, from a Manc Red. Love the passion and the conviction you brought to the post mate. FSG have sinned grievously and they need to atone for their sin against a REAL Liverpool , Scotland and indeed a world  football legend. They ought to be ashamed.

[Fat Scouser]

He's gone. Get over it. Get with the program, man. Sentiment has no place at the new LFC. The Boot Room... that's a place where you get puddings with sparklers in them, while you look at your new LeBron trainess from the shop, with the new LiverBird on them.  Fuck's sake old guy.... This is Anfield, the gaff where cups count for nothing and fourth is the new bread and butter.

I thought it was the end of the world when I saw that fucking big horrible yellow M go up at the ground. Little did I know, it was just the start...
Welcome to the all new media friendly, Anfield, (coming to Warrington or a place near you soon) with the smart money-ball, baseball-nomics, the all the new plassie-flag-waving, dancing and singing, but they don't know the words to the songs, Kopites... "Take me out to the ball game, take me out to the... FSG! FSG! FSG!"
Where do I get the FSG/Standard Chartered#1 big foam rubber hand?

As for this Dalglish dude, wasn't he some ancient racist guy that got fired on "Help I'm A Kopite.... Get me out of here!"

[bordeauxred]

Very well said CTR - I was also lucky enough to see Dalglish play and also manage our club twice !

On top of that as I am now a Liverpool exile I have found myself in the past few months telling Liverpool "fans" of the legendary status of Dalglish and whilst that is mainly due to his football career its also for the amount of charity work he and his wife have done on Merseyside and in the aftermath of Hillsborough and in several cases they didn't realise about his other work - anyway they now know!

Very disappointed in FSG's handling of this.

[TheTeflonJohn]

*Doffs cap

[redrockydennis]

CTR - nice one

[Darren G]

Fantastic OP. 

Whilst the "no man is bigger than the club" credo holds true, there are certainly individuals whom without our history and 'who we are' would be far lesser.  Kenny Dalglish is one of those men and to witness some of the vitriol that has been sent in Kenny's direction of late is both sickening and sad.  When he took the reigns again he was a legend; King Kenny, the wee Scott who became one of our own and one of the greatest men that have been associated with our club, both in terms of football and in general.  Nothing has changed in my eyes and the fickle c*nts who think that he has somehow become less than he was or feel the need to be so utterly disrespectful because of a poor league campaign (seems ridiculous even writing it) can fuck right off, because they have no fucking idea what either the club or the man is about.  Long live the King. 

[keeby]

inspiring cowtownred, cheers fella

[Fat Scouser]

I never thought Dalglish should come back permenantly. He'd done what was needed, brought the fans back together and got the team going in the right direction. He should have left it at that, walked away legend intact.

I never thought he was the man to take us on. I knew he couldn't perform miracles. I knew blerts would turn on him, if they didn't get their childish demands met immeadiately. I didn't know the owners would be the worst blerts of the lot.

I was completey underwhelmed when they walked in after H&G. I thought we'd leapt out the fat into the fire. I said as much at the time and then kept schtum... loyalty, that's the thing about being a Liverpudlian. Not no more.

FSG have shown their hand. They've shown they don't give a fuck about anything but money. They've shown they know nothing about football. They've shown they don't give a toss about the fans.

I expect a load for that. I don't give a shite. That's the truth of it... we're a franchise, owned by a consortium of money grubbers, who don't understand the business they've bought into. They'll do what they want, when they want. They won't give a fuck what anybody thinks about it.

I look forward to the day football's greed eats itself. The beautiful game my arse.

[southern scouse]

Cowtownred could not have put that any better, great post and a true reflection of how many feel , and others should feel.

+1

[Upinsmoke]

Beautifully put CTR.

[shockwave_dave]

Beautifully put CTR.

[FatOldMonkey]

This is the reason why I love this forum.

[royhendo]

Well said mate.

[Rafa_La]

Cowtownred could not have put that any better, great post and a true reflection of how many feel , and others should feel.

And should be allowed to express without being rubbished....

[The Grinch]

Brilliantly put CTR in a World of instant gratification and commercialism Kenny shows exactly what money will never be able to buy you loyalty, humility and down right old fashioned decency. Kenny has it in spade loads and Liverpool Football Club is a far poorer place without his presence.

[McSquared]

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