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Kenny Dalglish
« on: May 27, 2012, 11:21:20 PM »
There is an awful lot of vitriol on this site at the minute.  Its been that way for a few years to be honest.

From those who thought, in 2007, that Gillett and Hicks were like Noah and his missus... about to sail us away on an ark to salvation  (and others who thought we'd be shipwrecked).

Then there was the pro/anti-Rafa divide.

Some thought he was Moses, and would lead us to the Promised Land.  Many more thought we would be slaves for ever.


Now its FSG.  Some who trust. Others who need to have trust earned. And a sizeable number who won't ever get on board.


I have a major problem, and its this.  I can't wait for some of the replies I'm gonna get....and in a way its kind of going to confirm what I have been thinking for a while (but I'll wait to see).


To me, following the biblical thing, Kenny Dalglish is, and always has been, Jesus Christ.  Yes, maybe there was a Holy Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Ghost. For those read Shankly, Paisley and Dalglish in whichever order you choose. (I'd have Shanks as the Big Boy, Paisley as the Spirit, but Kenny as the Jesus figure).


Thats how I have regarded Kenny Dalglish all my life.  He was the greatest footballer I ever saw.  I first saw him play at Ibrox, when I was 10. I was in the Celtic end, a few months after the disaster, and Celtic won 3-0.  A young fella came on as sub.  Dalglish.

When I went to my first match to see Liverpool play, in Belfast, 1977;  there was a new lad not playing, but just arrived at the club... Dalglish.

When I went to my second Liverpool match, that fella scored the only goal, and whats more...  I got to kiss him after he scored.  Dalglish.


For 25 years (and a bit more), Kenny Dalglish never, ever, put a foot wrong in his life.

He was a model trainee, at Celtic.   I know this, because the man who does my car tyres now was a Celtic trainee at that time.  Dalglish used to give my mate Kevin McCool a lift to training. And he was a role model when he was 20.

He was the greatest player we ever had, and Scotland ever had.

He married, raised kids. He never played away, did he?  His standards of behaviour, the kids he raised... he is a role model that our society would do well to try and copy.  A fucking perfect gentleman.

He managed us in the true manner of all he'd been taught....as the LAST member of The Liverpool Way Club.  Success a plenty; but achieved in the right way.

Then he did what no man should expect to ever do.  He leads out HIS team...LIVERPOOL... to a European Cup Final in 1985.   Then, if thats not enough, he does the same and worse (much, much worse) as a young manager, 4 years later in Sheffield.

I'm not going to go on and spell out what Kenny Dalglish then did. How he fought tragedy at home due to his wife's illness.  Or the Charity work he did. How he coped with severe PTSD.  And eventually how he answered the call to try to unite a fractured Club in the aftermath of their worst disaster since 1989.  He answered the call, but probably knew he was drinking out a poisoned chalice.  How he would not get the chance to reacquaint himself with the running of a team after 15+ years away.  No. He was a lame duck.

He was called by the paymasters, because he was the only one they knew they could ask. Imagine had they asked Martinez then?  After Hodgson?  There'd been riots in April.

So, these Americans called on Dalglish, my living God, to save them from disaster.  And Kenny Dalglish, being what and who he is, said OK.





The rest you all know.



The purpose of this conversation (and even if its only between me, and me) is this.

No man who ever wants to be connected. In any way whatever. With Liverpool Football Club. Has, or will ever, earn the credentials, the savoir faire, or the affection of me, and many many thousands like me. Without acknowledging the debt we owe to a small, big man, from Southwest Glasgow.  Any c*nt who ever hurts or tries to damage THIS MESSIAH of ours, will need to go through us first.

So OWNERS.  SPAWNY BLERT 'FANS' from wherever you come.   Do not EVER try to disturb the legend of Kenny Dalglish.  Because I and Liverpool supporters like me will not let you do that.  Theres only three in our trinity.


SHANKLY.  PAISLEY.   DALGLISH.

You attack one of them, you attack us all.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2012, 11:31:14 PM by cowtownred »

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2012, 11:29:47 PM »
Amen.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2012, 11:30:50 PM »
I hope and think you won't get the replies you're looking for. We all stand behind those three.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2012, 11:31:28 PM »
Cowtownred, that brought tears to my eyes. You have carefully led me through many of my dear memories of this great club and this great man. Thank you.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2012, 11:36:26 PM »
Cowtownred, that brought tears to my eyes. You have carefully led me through many of my dear memories of this great club and this great man. Thank you.

Harry, if I get no other replies, that one will suffice.

You are a proper Red. I knmow, because you and I an d a few others have walked a dark walk together for a few years.

You're a special Liverpool gal.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2012, 11:36:44 PM »
Beautifully put.And very true

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2012, 11:36:44 PM »
Well said mate, some of the posts I've seen on here lately have been truly disrespectful.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2012, 11:37:30 PM »
I grew up with Kenny and a few years I met him at the Community Shield. I was literally walking on air for the rest of the day. He was my hero.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2012, 11:38:03 PM »
thanks, i tried and failed to write something like this about my last sporting hero before he was asked to leave, I hope he enjoys himself at home now

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2012, 11:40:23 PM »
The fact he's gone has really just sunk in after reading that. Great post!

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2012, 11:42:41 PM »
Spot on cowtown.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2012, 11:45:23 PM »
Well said CTR - for me is the embodiment of what every player here at Liverpool should aspire to.

Some may never have the skills or other qualities - but as a man, on how to carry yourself in life - through the good and the bad - he is the King.
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2012, 11:45:28 PM »
Superbly put.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2012, 11:58:32 PM »
Some of the disrespect shown for Kenny on other threads has been shocking and like you cowtown I have reared up at it. Such an insightful op that should make compulsory reading particularly for our new American cousins who have joined the site lately!!
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2012, 12:02:05 AM »
Great piece. Well said.
I grew up with Dalglish as my hero.
I remember as a young child being gutted when Keegan left and then very quickly realising that we had signed someone very special.
The end of Kenny is the end of an era for the club.
We can forge new histories but he was the last in a line.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2012, 12:09:24 AM »
Well said - the one VHS video I still own, the one silk scarf I ever owned, the one player I pretended to be growing up....Kenny Dalglish.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2012, 12:13:46 AM »
Too young to see him as a player or in his first spell as manager. But he's still my footballing idol.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2012, 12:14:08 AM »
I've only been on the auld arse thread over the last couple of weeks to avoid the inevitable shite. The only reason I came on this one is because of the title and the author.

I'm glad I did, I love the sentiment of the post and agree fully with the intent.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2012, 12:23:07 AM »

So OWNERS.  SPAWNY BLERT 'FANS' from wherever you come.   Do not EVER try to disturb the legend of Kenny Dalglish.  Because I and Liverpool supporters like me will not let you do that.  Theres only three in our trinity.


SHANKLY.  PAISLEY.   DALGLISH.

You attack one of them, you attack us all.

Amen.

FatScouser said somewhere else if I'm a gobshite then so be it. Dalglish is us.

Dalglish is as close as family without the blood tie.

Yet he has that blood tie.

SHANKLY.  PAISLEY.   DALGLISH.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2012, 12:28:04 AM »
hear hear
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2012, 12:28:41 AM »
I remember Kenny playing for Celtic and he had that big smile when he scored even then. I remember where I was when Paisley signed him. On holiday with my girlfriend & her family in Pontins Prestatyn. I was overjoyed! I never thought we'd replace Keegan and I was still a bit of a kid who didn't follow transfer rumours or anything so when they announced he'd signed, a player I admired so much, well it was the equivalent of signing Messi in today's money for me. He has been part of my history supporting the club.
He wasn't just a manager, he was so much more that the suits could never hope to comprehend.
I was gutted when he left in 1991 but this? This has left me with a sour taste in my mouth. Paisley once said of Kenny; "When he shines the whole team is illuminated."
Well the lights gone out on this (huh!) football club as far as I'm concerned. Sad.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2012, 12:33:07 AM »
Oh Kenny Dalglish
When will we see,
your like again
you played with pride for
the team that plays in red
The King of Anfield
We're his Red Army
We're marching onwards
To win again

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2012, 12:33:56 AM »
If anybody on here disrespects Kenny Dalglish then they simply don't have any idea what being a Liverpool supporter means.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2012, 12:38:34 AM »
Cheers, cowtownred, you've said it strongly and well. Kenny Dalglish was my childhood hero, and is still. 'No. 7 - Kenny Dalglish' - I loved that announcement, and it makes my spine tingle thinking back to it now.
Like you say - SHANKLY, PAISLEY, DALGLISH - always.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2012, 12:57:09 AM »
You know what i have had many false idols in my life, musicians, artists etc who i revered and looked up to when i was younger but as i grew up i realised they were all flawed and not worthy of the pedestal i had put them on. All except for one man who i still look up to, admire and have nothing but the deepest affection and praise for....that man is Kenny Dalglish.

Brilliant OP Cowtown mate, brought back so much and sums up exactly how i feel.


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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2012, 12:58:42 AM »
If only he'd got his boyhood dream move. :(

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2012, 01:05:05 AM »
great great great post
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2012, 01:06:46 AM »
Beautifully written, mate.

Amen to that.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2012, 01:07:31 AM »
is a good man.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2012, 01:08:22 AM »
Brilliant read that. I don't post very often, I don't usually feel the need however I received my first ban last week because some blert's wound me up the day Kenny was sacked. I'm normally very placid but have found myself getting angrier recently but i'm not paranoid am I? It's funny that the poster's in this thread have been the ones posting in response to the blerts in the FSG threads.

You've seen the posters, registered in March 10,000 posts all shite on a wind up.

One fella today registered July 2011 didn't feel the need to comment on any of last summer's new signing's, or comment on the amount of times we hit the post/crossbar this season,or comment on how many pens we missed, or comment on our all away draws in the league cup, or comment on our first appearance at the new Wembley in the League cup win, or beating the bitters back at Wembley, or the Suarez stitch up, or the F.A. Cup final, or the dismissal of Kenny after only one full season back in charge but felt the need to post 20 plus times in one day in the FSG Dilema thread all?

If any Mods read this, here is the answer as to why you have to warn, mute or ban people. I know it's an impossible task to moderate the number of posts daily on here but there have been some stand out posters here recently and i'm not talking the same calibre or anywhere near that of Cowtownred's post above!
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2012, 01:11:08 AM »
I replied to his tweet the other week with this...

"thanks kenny. Think I speak for every LFC fan when I say simply you're part of my family. We all love you. #YNWA"
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2012, 01:44:37 AM »
Well said! Am really sad that Kenny was not given a proper chance second time round but they can't take away our memories from us.  The club has fallen on hard times - during in the 80's, I would not have ever believed that we could actually sack him.  But, C'est la vie.  Kenny, you are gone but not forgotten.  YNWA

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2012, 02:10:26 AM »
Well said Cowtownred!  My sentiments exactly, any Red who disagrees needs to reflect why they are Red in the first place.  Without Kenny to hold us together in those tough times God knows where this club would be playing football now.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2012, 02:22:52 AM »
FSG would you have dared to treat Carl Yastrzemski or Jim Rice in a similar fashion?

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2012, 02:36:48 AM »
Lovely read. Can tell it means a lot to you.

Sad things played out in the way they have but I wouldn't get too worried about people throwing thoughtless comments around. When the dust settles, six months from now, The King will still be remembered in a positive light.

I just did a piece on the sport's obsession with fourth place and how everyone is now hooked on achieving something which in the cold light of day, is pretty average when you look at what it takes.

http://www.sportwithballs.blogspot.co.uk/   Have a gander if interested and keep your chin up.

Dalglish is Dalglish.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2012, 02:56:39 AM »
Mine's a holy quartet because I love Fagan, short reign or not, he was boss.
Otherwise, agree with every word.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2012, 03:10:31 AM »
Shaun, I was never fortunate enough to see Kenny play, but you had me welling up there. Well in.

I get upset when Kenny is attacked, he embodies Liverpool Football Club. And i love him to pieces.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2012, 03:12:16 AM »
can't see how any true red could disagree with a word of it
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Re: Kenny Dalglish
« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2012, 03:24:04 AM »
Wonderful post OP. Nearly made me well up too!!

I still feel sick that Kenny is not our manager anymore. I felt so happy and content seeing him managing the team.
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« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2012, 03:37:21 AM »
Amen.

Good OP.