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Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #160 on: May 25, 2012, 09:32:37 PM »
Yes its good that he's defending himself and showing how the system was flawed, but at the same time bringing it up again will only bring us more drama that we dont need.  The media doesnt care about the facts, they dont care that Suarez is past the incident, and they dont care about the lack of evidence.  What the media cares about is that the FA found Suarez guilty, because of this they're just gonna copy and paste random headlines saying that the racist is still trying to defend himself. Then in turn everybody with a newspaper and internet access will only read these headlines and will feel justified in calling suarez a racist again. great.

Fuck the drama and the media circus that will follow. Suarez clearly feels he has been wronged, and I for one support his decision to put his point across.

If there was any evidence, I mean one tiny piece of evidence that he racially abused Evra then I would say he was being stupid ...but there is none, so fair play to the lad.

If the media want to make a big deal of this then maybe they should look at the report again (if in fact they did in the first place) and how the decision was reached, and maybe see that Suarez has a point! I doubt that will happen however!

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« Reply #161 on: May 25, 2012, 09:35:43 PM »
1 and 3 yes, 2 no.  He has already done plenty of work BEFORE the whole Evra issue.  He shouldnt need to justify himself at ALL.  The fact that it would all backfire in his face and be twisted by the media is another thing.  Pointless pretending to pander to anyone anyway.  He has already said he is calm about the whole thing.

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« Reply #162 on: May 25, 2012, 09:38:02 PM »
1) Nothing he has said brings the game into disrepute
2) If asked the question better to address it than be seen to evade it. I'm sure he did not ring Russia Today to offer his thoughts

He answered it directly without any controversial remarks that I can see.

Fair dues to him.

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Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #163 on: May 25, 2012, 09:39:59 PM »
We all know and by we I don't mean LFC fans I mean everyone, FA, LFC, MUFC know if it went to a proper court of law it would have been thrown out. Just a shame we didn't take it that far.
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Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #165 on: May 25, 2012, 09:42:04 PM »
Due to the FA's decision, the media's vilification of Suarez, and the reaction of the useful idiots that seem to inhabit every other ground in England, I have stopped supporting England permanently, don't tune into Sky, don't read newspapers, don't watch the news, and no longer have any respect for any other club in the league. I also lost a HUGE amount of respect for my so-called mates over this, the fucking turncoats.

Fuck the FA, fuck the fucking liar Evra, fuck Ferguson the fucking politician, fuck Manchester United, fuck the league, and fuck the media.




As an outside who has spent a decent amount of time in England, it's mind-boggling how oblivious the FA (the the rest of the English football "establishment") is about their image in the world. All this tut-tut-ing about British "fair play" values and anti-racism, then they turn around and have obvious double standards for British players and foreigners. John Terry is in the England squad. JOHN TERRY. His punishment is he doesn't wear an elastic band on one arm (don't get me started on the national media's fetish for the England captaincy).

The double standard on diving is the most egregious. I love both Gerrard and Suarez, but I've seen Gerrard pull some obvious swan dives in the box over the years but never gets criticized, yet Suarez is the Latin diver who is ruining football. Go figure.

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Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #166 on: May 25, 2012, 09:48:39 PM »
Very well said by Suarez.

Am actually surprised he doesn't want to get as far away from this country as possible to be honest. Obviously glad he hasn't.
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Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #167 on: May 25, 2012, 09:48:49 PM »
Due to the FA's decision, the media's vilification of Suarez, and the reaction of the useful idiots that seem to inhabit every other ground in England, I have stopped supporting England permanently, don't tune into Sky, don't read newspapers, don't watch the news, and no longer have any respect for any other club in the league. I also lost a HUGE amount of respect for my so-called mates over this, the fucking turncoats.

Fuck the FA, fuck the fucking liar Evra, fuck Ferguson the fucking politician, fuck Manchester United, fuck the league, and fuck the media.




Wow. I think you need to learn to chill. That is a lot of rage there and if you don't release that safely, it's a heart attack waiting to happen - your blood pressure must be astronomical...
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Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #168 on: May 25, 2012, 09:50:30 PM »
Wow. I think you need to learn to chill. That is a lot of rage there and if you don't release that safely, it's a heart attack waiting to happen

Why does he? If you're any kind of football fan and aren't angry about this then you don't know the full story.
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« Reply #169 on: May 25, 2012, 09:53:03 PM »
Be interesting the response when the Terry thing happens. It's already interesting to see their two faced response to the Messi allegations.

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« Reply #170 on: May 25, 2012, 09:54:27 PM »
Why does he? If you're any kind of football fan and aren't angry about this then you don't know the full story.

There is anger and then there is unbridled rage. Bottle the later up and something will rupture.

Why do you assume I don't know the full story just because I'm able to post without showing excess emotion (most of the time). You should control your emotions and not let them control you.
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Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #171 on: May 25, 2012, 09:55:16 PM »
Whats the big deal?

Man feels injustice and expresses frustration.

Fair play Luis.

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Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #172 on: May 25, 2012, 09:56:48 PM »
There is anger and then there is unbridled rage. Bottle the later up and something will rupture.

Why do you assume I don't know the full story just because I'm able to post without showing excess emotion (most of the time). You should control your emotions and not let them control you.

I'm still furious about it. I'm curious that any Liverpool fan is OK with the way our player, our manger, our club, our city and our players were treated by the media.
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« Reply #173 on: May 25, 2012, 09:56:52 PM »
Be interesting the response when the Terry thing happens. It's already interesting to see their two faced response to the Messi allegations.



Surely the fact that the CPS actually took the Terry case is proof that something happened there. If the police and CPS actually thought Suarez had done something they'd have charged him too.
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Re: Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #174 on: May 25, 2012, 09:58:13 PM »
Surely the fact that the CPS actually took the Terry case is proof that something happened there. If the police and CPS actually thought Suarez had done something they'd have charged him too.

Hence the fucking anger.

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« Reply #175 on: May 25, 2012, 09:58:24 PM »
Surely the fact that the CPS actually took the Terry case is proof that something happened there. If the police and CPS actually thought Suarez had done something they'd have charged him too.

Tell that to the Xenophobic knuckle draggers in the media.
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« Reply #176 on: May 25, 2012, 10:00:46 PM »
I'm still furious about it. I'm curious that any Liverpool fan is OK with the way our player, our manger, our club, our city and our players were treated by the media.

Are you capable of actually reading and understanding my point that just because I'm not posting with emotion doesn't mean I think it was okay how he was treated. I just don't need to post with foul language or over the top comments to make a point or show "I'm a fan! I'm a fan! Look at me!"

I hope you're trying to wind me up rather than just trying to show me up
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Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #177 on: May 25, 2012, 10:02:47 PM »
Tell that to the Xenophobic knuckle draggers in the media.

I can't control them and neither could anyone else. They have their own agenda and have managed for years to get away with the crap they want to. For years they preached self-regulation as the way to go and then used that to sweep things under the carpet but finally thank god their arrogance and crimes are getting aired in public and they can't stop it.
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Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #178 on: May 25, 2012, 10:04:14 PM »
Are you capable of actually reading and understanding my point that just because I'm not posting with emotion doesn't mean I think it was okay how he was treated. I just don't need to post with foul language or over the top comments to make a point or show "I'm a fan! I'm a fan! Look at me!"

I hope you're trying to wind me up rather than just trying to show me up

And are you capable of seeing that people are angry and want to vent?
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« Reply #179 on: May 25, 2012, 10:09:36 PM »
And are you capable of seeing that people are angry and want to vent?

Yes. I merely posted that they may want to try to release that rage before it hurts them. People who get that angry and can't release it often do something stupid. Hurt themselves. Hurt friends/family. I'm not saying that will happen but rage isn't good to have for a prolonged period. Going to stop on that before I sound (any more) patronising and condescending.

Contempt is fine though. Depising Sky, FA, etc.. for their cowardice, bias and incompetence is a much better strategy.
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Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #180 on: May 25, 2012, 10:10:13 PM »
Are you capable of actually reading and understanding my point that just because I'm not posting with emotion doesn't mean I think it was okay how he was treated. I just don't need to post with foul language or over the top comments to make a point or show "I'm a fan! I'm a fan! Look at me!"

I hope you're trying to wind me up rather than just trying to show me up
And are you capable of seeing that people are angry and want to vent?

So in conclusion. People have different ways of expressing their agreement with his comments?

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« Reply #181 on: May 25, 2012, 10:12:14 PM »
Yes. I merely posted that they may want to try to release that rage before it hurts them. People who get that angry and can't release it often do something stupid. Hurt themselves. Hurt friends/family. I'm not saying that will happen but rage isn't good to have for a prolonged period. Going to stop on that before I sound (any more) patronising and condescending.

Contempt is fine though. Depising Sky, FA, etc.. for their cowardice, bias and incompetence is a much better strategy.

They are releasing it. They are venting on here.
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Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #182 on: May 25, 2012, 10:13:57 PM »
Wow. I think you need to learn to chill. That is a lot of rage there and if you don't release that safely, it's a heart attack waiting to happen - your blood pressure must be astronomical...

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« Reply #183 on: May 25, 2012, 10:15:26 PM »
They are releasing it. They are venting on here.
I think he's worried they might sprain one of their fingers or something, mate. That's the only harm I can see from venting on a forum supposedly for opinions. Thanks for your concern, John.
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« Reply #184 on: May 25, 2012, 11:09:44 PM »
I'm still furious about it. I'm curious that any Liverpool fan is OK with the way our player, our manger, our club, our city and our players were treated by the media.

Exactly. Hate the defeatist attitude from some of our support.
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« Reply #185 on: May 25, 2012, 11:13:24 PM »
Was right behind him then and I'm right behind him now.

A complete stitch up.

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« Reply #186 on: May 25, 2012, 11:40:01 PM »
The only thing that concerns me is that I'm reminded that we rolled over on this one. In law people are innocent unless there's enough evidence, why should football be any different.

Couldn't put it better, especially something as finding someone guilty of racism, in law it's beyond reasonable doubt but they found him guilty on probably, we should have pushed for Evra to go to the police and see what would happen, I think CPS would say no case to answer.
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« Reply #187 on: May 25, 2012, 11:46:43 PM »
Suarez told the truth. If he lied he'd have gotten away scott free because there was no evidence. He obviously grew up in an envoirnment where the crazy concept was telling the truth is the right thing to do. Well he was wrong. In the modern world the thing to do is lie and deny.

I know this is a fact through experience but somehow I can't bring myself to tell my kid.

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« Reply #188 on: May 25, 2012, 11:51:09 PM »
Very well said by Suarez.

Am actually surprised he doesn't want to get as far away from this country as possible to be honest. Obviously glad he hasn't.

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« Reply #189 on: May 25, 2012, 11:55:28 PM »
Rightly so, this is all he should care about:

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« Reply #190 on: May 25, 2012, 11:55:31 PM »
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« Reply #191 on: May 26, 2012, 12:03:57 AM »
We know he's telling the trut.But is this a good idea?

Speaking out against what you believe to be an injustice is always a good idea, even if the potential consequences suggest otherwise.

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« Reply #192 on: May 26, 2012, 12:06:17 AM »
Still can't believe the FA charged him with absolutely no proof other than Evra's word.

I mean, it's just unbelievable.

Suarez shouldn't have to appologise to anyone personally, he knew he didn't do anything, so what does he have to appologise for?

The media & Ferguson can both get screwed.

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« Reply #193 on: May 26, 2012, 12:09:02 AM »
Speaking out against what you believe to be an injustice is always a good idea, even if the potential consequences suggest otherwise.

Wonderful in theory. Often fatal in practice.  You says it's always a good idea, that kind is speaking has been and still is a death sentence in parts of the globe.

For Suarez it's potentially another huge ban. Theoretically anything is a good idea. You have to actually consider things properly before deciding whether something is a good idea in practice.
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« Reply #194 on: May 26, 2012, 12:14:59 AM »
Wonderful in theory. Often fatal in practice.  You says it's always a good idea, that kind is speaking has been and still is a death sentence in parts of the globe.

For Suarez it's potentially another huge ban. Theoretically anything is a good idea. You have to actually consider things properly before deciding whether something is a good idea in practice.

No harm to you mate, but you are talking absolute bollocks. Ban him for what?
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« Reply #195 on: May 26, 2012, 12:15:39 AM »
I just find it strange that Terry was allowed to play on and then play for England when he was accused. I think there is nothing wrong on what Suarez has said. The cries of an innocent man should always be heard if he has been unjustly dealt with. The FA need to sort their shit out.

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« Reply #196 on: May 26, 2012, 12:16:00 AM »
Wonderful in theory. Often fatal in practice.  You says it's always a good idea, that kind is speaking has been and still is a death sentence in parts of the globe.

For Suarez it's potentially another huge ban. Theoretically anything is a good idea. You have to actually consider things properly before deciding whether something is a good idea in practice.

I fail to understand how this can be 'another huge ban'! There are plenty of examples of people disagreeing with an FA decision, one example is Fergie and his stance on Evra's ban after the Chelsea incident, was he held to account for his comments? Has anybody ever been banned for saying they disagreed with an FA decision after they have served their punishment? I am not being clever here, I would be interested to know if it has ever happened!

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« Reply #197 on: May 26, 2012, 12:18:44 AM »
Wonderful in theory. Often fatal in practice.  You says it's always a good idea, that kind is speaking has been and still is a death sentence in parts of the globe.

For Suarez it's potentially another huge ban. Theoretically anything is a good idea. You have to actually consider things properly before deciding whether something is a good idea in practice.

How is it potentially another huge ban? Any further ban you would expect would be challenged by the club.

The FA and media have been victimising Suarez because he's "A Foreigner" and to score cheap points against blatter from day one
Football has reached the ninth gate of farce and pathetic, unbelievable trite nonsense. It's supposed to be a game and it's turned into pantomime, hype, quilts and bellends.

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Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #198 on: May 26, 2012, 12:18:55 AM »
Suarez is a very fine player, but a complete idiot. I admire the way he hassles defenders, but he is ready to implode at any moment. Apart from the incident in question his career is littered with nasty incidents which include eye gouging, biting, diving, abusing and fighting other players (including his own team mates)  and a couple of horrible tackles. He made his comeback against Spurs and kicked (deliberately) Parker in the stomach within 5 minutes of being on the park. It is natural to defend your own, but outside of Liverpool very few people think he was the innocent party in the Evra affair, that amounts to one massive conspiracy.

He is an accident waiting to happen and it won't be long before he blots his copybook again or cops some retribution from one of the players he winds up. This comment proves he has learned nothing from the experience he went through. He is basically calling those involved liars. In the circumstances only a fool would do that, the kind of fool who tells his manager he will do one thing and does the other.

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Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #199 on: May 26, 2012, 12:19:06 AM »
No harm to you mate, but you are talking absolute bollocks. Ban him for what?

People have gotten bans for contemptuous comments about the FA before. Keane got a long ban for comments made in his book. Suarez is challenging the FA about its conclusions and disciplinary stance.

Pick one.
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