Author Topic: Suarez gets it spot on  (Read 32494 times)

Offline Andy @ Allerton!

  • Missing an asterisk - no, wait sorry, that's his rusty starfish..... RAWK Apple fanboy. Hedley Lamarr's bestest mate. Has done nothing incredible ever.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 73,734
  • Asterisks baby!
Suarez gets it spot on
« on: May 25, 2012, 03:25:10 pm »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/25/luis-suarez-liverpool-patrice-evra?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+theguardian%2Ffootball%2Frss+%28Football%29

Luis Suárez has reopened the controversy surrounding his race row with Patrice Evra by revealing his conscience is "completely calm" over events at Anfield on 15 October last year and accusing the Football Association of wanting "to get rid of a Liverpool player".

The Uruguay forward served an eight-match suspension this year after being found guilty of racially abusing the Manchester United defender by an independent panel appointed by the FA. Suárez and Liverpool did not appeal against the decision, despite protestations from the club over the process that led to him being charged.

Suárez caused further problems for Liverpool and the then manager Kenny Dalglish when he refused to shake Evra's hand in the return league fixture at Old Trafford in February. That prompted a series of apologies from Liverpool, Suárez and Dalglish, but the striker has never apologised to Evra personally for what occurred at Anfield in October and, in an interview with Russia Today, claims he has no cause to.

"The suspension, I suppose, you could call strange and unbelievable," said Suárez. "Without a single shred of proof, they suspended me. I accepted it without saying anything obviously because they could have made [the suspension] longer and it would have just made the whole thing continue, but my conscience is completely calm, and so is that of the club and my family.

"There was not a single convincing proof that I had done any of the things they accused me of doing. I am very calm about all of it. I have played all my childhood and everyone knows that in Uruguay there is a huge black population. I had team-mates and friends of both colours all the time in the national team, in Liverpool, in Holland, where the majority [of players] are from Surinam, and I never had any problem with them.

"Holland is one of the countries in the world where there is the highest number of black players and at no point was there an issue. Well, these are the things about football. It seems to me that they had to get rid of a Liverpool player and, well, they definitely were gratified by all of this."

Liverpool's owner, Fenway Sports Group, sacked the long-serving head of communications Ian Cotton this month after a season that attracted fierce criticism of the club's handling of the Suárez affair. The striker, however, claims his wife bore the brunt of the fallout. "She has suffered more than anyone during this," he said, and is unconcerned about the damage to his reputation or the reaction of opposition crowds.

He added: "What the English press has said about me does not interest me. What interests me is what they say about me in Uruguay and in Liverpool, and they have always been very supportive.

"After the suspension was confirmed, I was told that the fans would taunt me, they would whistle me, insult me and shout at me, but to be honest it is not something I was worried about or paid attention to. Everyone whistled me in all of the stadiums I played in all the time anyway, even before the allegation of racism. It was just the same. I tried to pay it as little attention as possible to focus on what I like to do, which is to play."

Quote from: tubby on Today at 12:45:53 pm

They both went in high, that's factually correct, both tried to play the ball at height.  Doku with his foot, Mac Allister with his chest.

Offline brad147690

  • get shirty
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,568
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2012, 03:28:39 pm »
Good response. What Alvaro Pereira said around the time was correct to.

Offline liverpoolfan1

  • Kopite
  • *****
  • Posts: 927
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2012, 03:31:57 pm »
Y.N.W.A Suarez!
"A lot of football success is in the mind. You must believe you are the best and then make sure that you are."

Bill Shankly

Offline Prelude no.5

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,745
  • op.23. Thanks for everything Rafa
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2012, 03:31:57 pm »
It's a pity, or maybe on second thought, no it's not, that the English media will still deny this.

I mean, during the debacle was there any media outlet that mentioned the fact that there was not one convincing shred of evidence ? No. How this was allowed to happen shows the FA for the failure that it is.
"We gave the fans the pride. Again. We fight for the fans, we fight for the club and we fight for our players. Maybe he cannot understand this." ~ Rafa Benitez

Offline Virna

  • Anny Roader
  • ****
  • Posts: 494
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2012, 03:34:31 pm »
Luis Suárez has reopened the controversy

haha, HE reopened?... yes, sure.

He added: "What the English press has said about me does not interest me. What interests me is what they say about me in Uruguay and in Liverpool, and they have always been very supportive.

 :thumbup

Offline Ziltoid

  • Grass. See you at next year's panto (oh no you won't!). Carrot-topped Phallic Snowman Extraordinaire.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 18,435
  • Scrubbers
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2012, 03:36:05 pm »
He added: "What the English press has said about me does not interest me. What interests me is what they say about me in Uruguay and in Liverpool, and they have always been very supportive.


Good lad.

Offline Lord Roger Hunt

  • Elevated to the RAWK Peerage. Furious Legend In His Own Lunchtime.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,163
  • Humans were harmed in the making of this picture
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2012, 03:37:13 pm »
Calling Jen! Calling Jen!!  Action stations! Action stations! Calling Jen!!
From the Country of Liverpool

Offline RyanBabel19

  • Embarrassing.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 20,224
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2012, 03:38:45 pm »
The fact the press over here will used this as something to tarnish his reputation even further speaks volumes.

YNWA Luis

Offline PhilV

  • Has difficulty in getting it up, apparently.....
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,789
  • Epic Swindler
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2012, 03:41:22 pm »
Well in, Luis!

YNWA!

Offline justsean

  • Two goals in his first two minutes of match commentary. Take a bow...
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,847
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2012, 03:41:39 pm »
YNWA lad.

Offline Nut/ella

  • do!
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,261
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2012, 03:42:36 pm »
Finally some closure on what's going on in his mind. Well in!

Offline ncred

  • ble
  • Anny Roader
  • ****
  • Posts: 475
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2012, 03:42:45 pm »
right or not, I still wish he hadn't talked about it again.

Offline duffyg

  • Main Stander
  • ***
  • Posts: 180
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2012, 03:42:58 pm »
We know he's telling the trut.But is this a good idea?

Offline ...

  • Better than "Wall's Viennetta". Fact.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 7,476
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2012, 03:44:35 pm »
Well in

Offline MakeUsDreamAgain

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Anny Roader
  • ******
  • Posts: 333
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2012, 03:44:41 pm »
Well done Luis! YNWA! :wave

Offline B0151?

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 19,142
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2012, 03:46:47 pm »
glad that dalglish is not going to get dragged into this time, although who knows he might be allowed to speak his mind too now he's unaffiliated with the club

like it or not, people saying he's 'reopened' this, it was never shut, the FA have permanent put a taint on his career, any time he does anything there'll be reference to it. any mention of our season there's been reference to it. people calling dalglish a racist too. it's a mess and probably always will be.

Offline koptician

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,449
  • Hail to the King!
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2012, 03:49:24 pm »
YNWA Luis!

Offline RedHopper

  • Hopping to a mightily lofty position and enjoying the view. If only custom titles could be in proportion to the member's average post length? My, what fun we could have! Imagine the sheer edification to be derived from testing the character limi
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,187
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2012, 03:53:02 pm »
Hi guys. Long time lurker, first time poster.

When I read that article, my heart sank. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation, it was an immensely damaging incident for Liverpool FC, and I would have thought that the most important thing was to put it in the past, and move on as quickly as possible. yesterday's headlines being tomorrow's chip wrappings, etc. As far as I know, this is official club policy. Whatever you think about what happened, the FA are going to look as those quotes as an accusation of bias, and they are almost certainly going to charge him with bringing the game into disrepute. I'm afraid that the next thing that we will hear from him will be that he has been hounded out of english football, and he'll be off to another club.

Even if that isn't his intent, bringing this up now is just bad for the club, and gives more fuel to what was a very bad story. He is a grown man, and receives a large salary from liverpool, who have stood by him through thick and thin. He owes the club a certain responsibility, and He is putting his own interests ahead of the club. As fans, I'm not sure that we should be so keen to applaud this. This interview is not a good thing. only bad things can come of it.

Offline God's Left Peg

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,815
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2012, 03:55:21 pm »
Was right behind him then and I'm right behind him now.

A complete stitch up.

"The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That's how I see football, that's how I see life."

Offline willss

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,890
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2012, 03:57:19 pm »
The only thing that concerns me is that I'm reminded that we rolled over on this one. In law people are innocent unless there's enough evidence, why should football be any different.

Online oojason

  • The Official RAWK Audio Visual God. Founder Member of the Ricky Gervais' 'David Brad Fan Club'.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 23,949
  • The Awkward Squad
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2012, 03:57:35 pm »
Was right behind him then and I'm right behind him now.

A complete stitch up.

.
Some 'Useful Info' for following the football + TV, Streams, Highlights & Replays etc - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=345769

A mini-index of RAWK's 'Liverpool Audio / Video Thread' content over the years; & more - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=345769.msg17787576#msg17787576

Offline RedMarko

  • Master arsonist and goat hater
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,852
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
    • TW42 now!!
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2012, 03:58:50 pm »
Hi guys. Long time lurker, first time poster.

When I read that article, my heart sank. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation, it was an immensely damaging incident for Liverpool FC, and I would have thought that the most important thing was to put it in the past, and move on as quickly as possible. yesterday's headlines being tomorrow's chip wrappings, etc. As far as I know, this is official club policy. Whatever you think about what happened, the FA are going to look as those quotes as an accusation of bias, and they are almost certainly going to charge him with bringing the game into disrepute. I'm afraid that the next thing that we will hear from him will be that he has been hounded out of english football, and he'll be off to another club.

Even if that isn't his intent, bringing this up now is just bad for the club, and gives more fuel to what was a very bad story. He is a grown man, and receives a large salary from liverpool, who have stood by him through thick and thin. He owes the club a certain responsibility, and He is putting his own interests ahead of the club. As fans, I'm not sure that we should be so keen to applaud this. This interview is not a good thing. only bad things can come of it.

1) Nothing he has said brings the game into disrepute
2) If asked the question better to address it than be seen to evade it. I'm sure he did not ring Russia Today to offer his thoughts

He answered it directly without any controversial remarks that I can see.

Fair dues to him.

Offline Andy @ Allerton!

  • Missing an asterisk - no, wait sorry, that's his rusty starfish..... RAWK Apple fanboy. Hedley Lamarr's bestest mate. Has done nothing incredible ever.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 73,734
  • Asterisks baby!
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2012, 03:59:18 pm »
The only thing that concerns me is that I'm reminded that we rolled over on this one. In law people are innocent unless there's enough evidence, why should football be any different.


I'm hoping the FA try and take him to court. In a court of law if he sues them they'd get their arses handed to them.
Quote from: tubby on Today at 12:45:53 pm

They both went in high, that's factually correct, both tried to play the ball at height.  Doku with his foot, Mac Allister with his chest.

Offline Mr Kipling

  • Manhattanite
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 8,846
  • "Dream of Kloppifornication"
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2012, 03:59:53 pm »
Well in

Offline Acaustiq

  • Statistically the biggest dick waver and has quotes to prove it. Bitter revisionist.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,092
  • Finally, Danone Actimel cured him.
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2012, 04:00:59 pm »

I'm hoping the FA try and take him to court. In a court of law if he sues them they'd get their arses handed to them.

Never going to happen, last thing the FA are going to subject themselves to is the law.
When your Mum used to pick you up from school and you'd run out and be like 'Mummy I got 9/10 in the spelling test today', would she go 'phenomenal, son'.

Cos if she did she's a stupid fuck.

Offline cyador

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,188
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2012, 04:01:20 pm »
Hi guys. Long time lurker, first time poster.

When I read that article, my heart sank. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation, it was an immensely damaging incident for Liverpool FC, and I would have thought that the most important thing was to put it in the past, and move on as quickly as possible. yesterday's headlines being tomorrow's chip wrappings, etc. As far as I know, this is official club policy. Whatever you think about what happened, the FA are going to look as those quotes as an accusation of bias, and they are almost certainly going to charge him with bringing the game into disrepute. I'm afraid that the next thing that we will hear from him will be that he has been hounded out of english football, and he'll be off to another club.

Even if that isn't his intent, bringing this up now is just bad for the club, and gives more fuel to what was a very bad story. He is a grown man, and receives a large salary from liverpool, who have stood by him through thick and thin. He owes the club a certain responsibility, and He is putting his own interests ahead of the club. As fans, I'm not sure that we should be so keen to applaud this. This interview is not a good thing. only bad things can come of it.

Mate he's been accused and found guilty of racism, without any proof. Stains on his character that could stay with him for life. Why should he stay silent if he knows he's innocent? Would you? I know i wouldn't.

Offline stonty

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,053
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2012, 04:02:28 pm »
Well done lad

Offline sirjames

  • The Manly Eunuch
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,772
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2012, 04:04:48 pm »
Can't believe that people are complaining that he brought it up again, fuck the media fuck the fa fuck the 'bend over and take it' attitude the lad is innocent for fucks sake.

If we win, its normal because were Liverpool Football Club
Rafa  25/1/05

Offline willss

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,890
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2012, 04:06:01 pm »
Hi guys. Long time lurker, first time poster.

When I read that article, my heart sank. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation, it was an immensely damaging incident for Liverpool FC, and I would have thought that the most important thing was to put it in the past, and move on as quickly as possible. yesterday's headlines being tomorrow's chip wrappings, etc. As far as I know, this is official club policy. Whatever you think about what happened, the FA are going to look as those quotes as an accusation of bias, and they are almost certainly going to charge him with bringing the game into disrepute. I'm afraid that the next thing that we will hear from him will be that he has been hounded out of english football, and he'll be off to another club.

Even if that isn't his intent, bringing this up now is just bad for the club, and gives more fuel to what was a very bad story. He is a grown man, and receives a large salary from liverpool, who have stood by him through thick and thin. He owes the club a certain responsibility, and He is putting his own interests ahead of the club. As fans, I'm not sure that we should be so keen to applaud this. This interview is not a good thing. only bad things can come of it.
don't agree on a number of levels but most of all what happened to suarez happened to us all. Long after suarez goes we will be remembered as a racist club without people knowing why. Never admit to doing something you didn't do and certainly never say sorry for it.

Offline Hunter Thompson

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 5,143
  • Possibilities, no?
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2012, 04:07:43 pm »
I want to hear Dave Whelan's take on this.

Offline Runehammer

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Kopite
  • ******
  • Posts: 630
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2012, 04:09:21 pm »
Hi guys. Long time lurker, first time poster.

When I read that article, my heart sank. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation, it was an immensely damaging incident for Liverpool FC, and I would have thought that the most important thing was to put it in the past, and move on as quickly as possible. yesterday's headlines being tomorrow's chip wrappings, etc. As far as I know, this is official club policy. Whatever you think about what happened, the FA are going to look as those quotes as an accusation of bias, and they are almost certainly going to charge him with bringing the game into disrepute. I'm afraid that the next thing that we will hear from him will be that he has been hounded out of english football, and he'll be off to another club.

Even if that isn't his intent, bringing this up now is just bad for the club, and gives more fuel to what was a very bad story. He is a grown man, and receives a large salary from liverpool, who have stood by him through thick and thin. He owes the club a certain responsibility, and He is putting his own interests ahead of the club. As fans, I'm not sure that we should be so keen to applaud this. This interview is not a good thing. only bad things can come of it.

The PFA owed Suarez impartial support and the FA owed him a fair hearing, neither happened so he's more than entitled to speak freely IMHO.  He's been badly let down by the powers that be in this country for the sake of political (football politics that is) expediency to score points against Blatter.

Offline Andy @ Allerton!

  • Missing an asterisk - no, wait sorry, that's his rusty starfish..... RAWK Apple fanboy. Hedley Lamarr's bestest mate. Has done nothing incredible ever.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 73,734
  • Asterisks baby!
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2012, 04:12:44 pm »
I want to hear Dave Whelan's take on this.

:lmao
Quote from: tubby on Today at 12:45:53 pm

They both went in high, that's factually correct, both tried to play the ball at height.  Doku with his foot, Mac Allister with his chest.

Offline Ultimate Bromance

  • The Crab
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 15,507
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2012, 04:12:56 pm »
Good on him.
Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Can't Lose.

Offline LucasL21

  • Main Stander
  • ***
  • Posts: 93
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2012, 04:13:39 pm »
Get in suarez lad. Calm and collected response.
"Those weren't lucky goals, born out of desperation, they were masterpieces of passion."

JFT96

Offline redgriffin73

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 32,575
  • Thanks for everything Rafa. Nunca Caminarás Solo.
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2012, 04:13:41 pm »
YNWA Luis!
Rafa Benitez: "I'll always keep in my heart the good times I've had here, the strong and loyal support of the fans in the tough times and the love from Liverpool. I have no words to thank you enough for all these years and I am very proud to say that I was your manager. Thank you so much once more and always remember: You'll never walk alone."

Offline It's Jimmy Corkhill

  • No more scrapping in Page Moss. Marxist.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 8,712
  • Hasta La Victoria Siempre....
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2012, 04:13:48 pm »
Well-in Luis.
"I'm a people man. Only the people matter".
-Bill Shankly.

Offline Barneylfc∗

  • Cross-dressing man-bag wielding golfer. Wannabe Mod. Coprophiliac. Would like to buy an airline seat if he could. Known 'grass'. Wants to go home to He-Man
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 60,019
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2012, 04:18:01 pm »
An absolute disgrace that he was found guilty in the first place. No evidence whatsoever.
Craig Burnley V West Ham - WEST HAM WIN - INCORRECT

Offline robgomm

  • He just can't get enough of Luis Suarez.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 10,087
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2012, 04:18:03 pm »
Yay, this again.

Offline exiledinyorkshire

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,699
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2012, 04:20:39 pm »
At the time i wanted it to go quiet and to go away, that was for one reason and one reason only. It was being used as a big fucking stick to beat a man i love. With Kenny Gone, and nobody in place to take the flak for it, Suarez is perfectly entitled to comment on it as much as he likes. Any way he is merely stating facts as i see it.


Offline Packalacky

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,875
Re: Suarez gets it spot on
« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2012, 04:23:46 pm »
Why bring this up again? Seriously what is the point?

To clear his name? He was found guilty of using racial language, we don't agree with it but that's how it is. Liverpool's name has been taken through the mud for the last year, all the way around the world, do we really want it to continue? Our reputation is more important than Suarez and I'm afraid this is doing more damage to the club than he is worth to us.