Topic: Brendan Rodgers

[Xabifan]

Lucas strikes me as a player who will thrive under Rodgers Style (injuries permitting)

[rednich85]

Reading expert analysis of a manager along with his own ideas of how he sees the game and wants his side to play is a pretty sensible way to make a decision when there is a lack of on the field evidence to go on.

Expert analysis Kev? Who said anything about expert analysis?

Those articles could have come from some tit journo who likes Brendan Rodgers/Martinez.

Who's providing this analysis and to what end?

It's like reading a medical book and self diagnosing. Fuck that.

I think it's odd to make your selection based on a few articles. Regardless of who has penned them.

Just my view.

[Redkoprob]

Made it the Beebs.  Less underwhelming that Robbie Martinez.  Fingers crossed he will do a great job for us.  Come on Brendan!

[spider-neil]

His pressing high up the pitch.
His instance that the ball is played out from the back (rather than punting it up field in a panic).
Possession through passing.
All this makes him a very exciting prospect indeed.

[brownie 09]

One problem I can foresee if Rodgers gets the job is his ability to attract the top-end players. Without Champions League someone who's more of a name (Rafa, for example) would have a lot more of a chance bringing in the better players on the promise of better things... obviously FSG are not planning on splashing the cash, which is worrying.

is that obvious yeah? or just an opinion based upon nothing?

[isildurrr]

if he's coming alone it will be underwhelming.

there are too many established people with a vision similar to his who should have been preferred.if it is with a DOF then excellent.

[robbie keane]

I honestly feel a little worry for Rodgers because this will only work if he has our full support. One bad run of results and the knives will be out. The lg is far stronger than it was 3 or 4 years ago, spurs, Newcastle and of course city have all caught us and passed us.

We have to manage expectations and take each season as an individual case, we can not compare now to let's say 4 years ago.
A lot has happened and we are playing catch up with a new manager and new ideas, let's embrace it, go with it and give it our full backing. Forget what has gone before and look forward to new beginnings please for the sake of our great club.

[rednich85]

Decent results over a season?

That's very vague.

Kenny had decent results over last season but we were still shit.

[SerbianScouser]

Nobody can say that FSG dont have some major major cojones.

[conman]

I agree mate. Still willing to give Rodgers time, but baffled why the man we know can do it has been left out in the cold.

[babraham]

One problem I can foresee if Rodgers gets the job is his ability to attract the top-end players. Without Champions League someone who's more of a name (Rafa, for example) would have a lot more of a chance bringing in the better players on the promise of better things... obviously FSG are not planning on splashing the cash, which is worrying.

Step up Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal

[gemkopqueen]

One problem I can foresee if Rodgers gets the job is his ability to attract the top-end players. Without Champions League someone who's more of a name (Rafa, for example) would have a lot more of a chance bringing in the better players on the promise of better things... obviously FSG are not planning on splashing the cash, which is worrying.

Obvious??  We don't know the ins and outs of anything yet.

[Melbred]

Expert analysis Kev? Who said anything about expert analysis?

Those articles could have come from some tit journo who likes Brendan Rodgers/Martinez.

Who's providing this analysis and to what end?

It's like reading a medical book and self diagnosing. Fuck that.

I think it's odd to make your selection based on a few articles. Regardless of who has penned them.

Just my view.

The articles provide a great insight into the way Rodgers' approach to the game, considering they are filled with quotes of him explaining how and why he plays the way he does. It's not just journos talking shite.

[Johnnyboy1973]

Nobody can say that FSG dont have some major major cojones.

They can.

It could quite easily be they're clueless.

Time will tell.

[ryatnalkar]

Not really, no, because it's a whole different thread. But to summarise: Suarez, Commolli, absentee owners, ill communication, transfer funding, Carroll swap deals, DOF sackings, no operational/press/PR support. Kenny was hung out to dry in a way he didn't deserve, and meanwhile took the flak for everything on the chin, trying to keep the facade of a unified club intact for the baying press horde, the stress of which led to them interpreting his stance as belligerent and so on and so forth.

So Kenny didn't get support, and as such, his authority was undermined. If that happens with Rodgers, these owners will be twice culpable.

If that is what you call Kenny didn't get support, then I dont even know how one can describe what went with Rafa.

Let's not rewrite history and say Kenny gave up because of above (many hypothetical in there). Its complete lack of any fixed formation and absent tactics that lead to disastrous results which is why he got the sack. I believe we will do better under Rodgers than Kenny. Hell, he did so well with a Swansea squad, if he was here last season, we would have been better.

[Sharado]

Hang on...Hang on....Has anyone yet seen the potential for headlines here?

Brendan Rodgers Fergie...and so forth.

I'm 100% behind him now that's passed through my tiny mind. 

[Redeo]

Top 4 next season and a quality showing in Europa. Title contention thereafter.

That's some mammoth optimism. Surely it is this: flirting with Top 4 next season and genuine title contention by 2016-2017 at the earliest.
You honestly think we can challenge MC and MU for title in 12 months time?

[conman]

Not really, no, because it's a whole different thread. But to summarise: Suarez, Commolli, absentee owners, ill communication, transfer funding, Carroll swap deals, DOF sackings, no operational/press/PR support. Kenny was hung out to dry in a way he didn't deserve, and meanwhile took the flak for everything on the chin, trying to keep the facade of a unified club intact for the baying press horde, the stress of which led to them interpreting his stance as belligerent and so on and so forth.

So Kenny didn't get support, and as such, his authority was undermined. If that happens with Rodgers, these owners will be twice culpable.

I reckon Kenny wanted to get someone in for Lucas at xmas, but the owners had probably made up their mind by then and said no. thats just my opinion, but would further validate the "hung out to dry" train of thought.

[Terry De Niro]

That's very vague.

Kenny had decent results over last season but we were still shit.

Our league finish would suggest that you are right, but we did play some good football as well under Kenny.

[ChristophLFC]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18235961

welcome to anfield brenden!! 

i am very much looking forward to see what he can do

pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass,pass GOAAAAL! 

[WhiteHeat]

Anyone care to outline what a "fine job" will be?

1 Build a rapport with the fans, something the last 'outsider' failed to do
2 Play good footy and show signs of progression
3 Aim to win one of the three cup comps we're in. Europa League would be the nicest prize
4 Get as close to the top four as we can. If we get, say, 65 points or more that would be a good effort. 52 points last year was not good enough although the players were more to blame than Kenny IMO, they switched off and gave up after the Arsenal game

[CRAZY HORSE EMLYN]

His pressing high up the pitch.
His instance that the ball is played out from the back (rather than punting it up field in a panic).
Possession through passing.
All this makes him a very exciting prospect indeed.

Got a bit excited from the way you'd set that out, thinking you'd penned a little verse already about the man there!

[benn25]

Im skimming the last 5 pages. Is Rodgers our manager or is it still speculation?

[thekremlin]

is that obvious yeah? or just an opinion based upon nothing?

Okay, an opinion. More of a turn of phrase than anything. But based on the prior reasoning of my post, who is going to come here that is actually worth a lot of money? We'll see, in any case.

[babraham]

Im skimming the last 5 pages. Is Rodgers our manager or is it still speculation?

Almost certain.

[CRAZY HORSE EMLYN]

I guess we can we make do with "Brehhh -ndan RO–GERZZ... clap clap clap clap..." for the time being though

[scared_person]

I think its a punt.

He could have the potential to be a great manager and build a dynasty. He might turn out to be a one season wonder who struggles to handle the big club pressure.

People saying he must have impressed in the interview: Who has he impressed? I could interview a genius and a moron for a baseball manager's job and I wouldn't know the difference. Werner and Henry know fuck all about football so who is making this appointment?

My questions:
Are we in a good position to be gambling on a manager now?
Do the people making the gamble now have sufficient knowledge of the game to stack the odds in their favour?

[brownie 09]

Okay, an opinion. More of a turn of phrase than anything. But based on the prior reasoning of my post, who is going to come here that is actually worth a lot of money? We'll see, in any case.

Regardless of who is manager. With the posistions we have been in over the last 3years I doubt we would have the pull unless we were offering mega amounts of money in wages.

[Redeo]

Not really, no, because it's a whole different thread. But to summarise: Suarez, Commolli, absentee owners, ill communication, transfer funding, Carroll swap deals, DOF sackings, no operational/press/PR support. Kenny was hung out to dry in a way he didn't deserve, and meanwhile took the flak for everything on the chin, trying to keep the facade of a unified club intact for the baying press horde, the stress of which led to them interpreting his stance as belligerent and so on and so forth.

So Kenny didn't get support, and as such, his authority was undermined. If that happens with Rodgers, these owners will be twice culpable.

Ok, thanks. Different thread indeed. Perhaps will pick up on elsewhere...

[RedPross]

So Roman meets with Pep after buying Hazard for £34m.....and we get Brendan !!!

How football has changed over the years... doesn't look anything like the "Beautiful Game" I grew up with.... its more like Monopoly for the rich and infamous!!!

Anyway good luck to however gets in... they're going to need it (still not convinced it will be BR think hes just another on the ever growing list)

[JackWard33]

His pressing high up the pitch.
His instance that the ball is played out from the back (rather than punting it up field in a panic).
Possession through passing.
All this makes him a very exciting prospect indeed.

This is the bit that worries me.
He's not exactly alone in this is he? There are young coaches all over europe coaching this style of play it doesn't make him unique.

He's unproven at so many things that are central to this job, from handling 'star' players through to dealing with the media cauldron and constant focus, actually winning trophies not just over achieving in competitions, attracting top notch playing talent and on and on.
He could be fantastic at everything - but then so could a lot of coaches.

If appointed he's the least qualified manager we've had since the club came back to the top division; what's really scary is that all of this is based on just a couple of good years at one club, and just one in the PL. People keep calling it a gamble, without anyone more senior with footballing knowledge its not a gamble its a massive close your eyes and hope punt and its one we don't have to take

[Gene]

To say I'm pleased, would be an understatement.

[b_joseph]

Lucas strikes me as a player who will thrive under Rodgers Style (injuries permitting)

Lucas strikes me as a player who thrives under anyone style...great players will be great.


I wish our new Boss all the best...Not many will say he was near the top of their wishlist but you have to admire someone this early in their career taking on a job of this size.

[WhiteHeat]

This is the bit that worries me.
He's not exactly alone in this is he? There are young coaches all over europe coaching this style of play it doesn't make him unique.

He's unproven at so many things that are central to this job, from handling 'star' players through to dealing with the media cauldron and constant focus, actually winning trophies not just over achieving in competitions, attracting top notch playing talent and on and on.
He could be fantastic at everything - but then so could a lot of coaches.

If appointed he's the least qualified manager we've had since the club came back to the top division; what's really scary is that all of this is based on just a couple of good years at one club, and just one in the PL. People keep calling it a gamble, without anyone more senior with footballing knowledge its not a gamble its a massive close your eyes and hope punt and its one we don't have to take

Souness/Evans/Hodgson all had superior CVs?

[Melbred]

Ah well, thats ok then.

Bloggers sway the masses. Fucking hell.

Why would you just quote that part of my post? Did I not say that the most valuable insight comes directly from Rodgers himself?

[rednich85]

Our league finish would suggest that you are right, but we did play some good football as well under Kenny.

No doubt, Terry. No doubt at all. Some of the football, even last season, was fucking great. Its a results business, fuck, if our Brendan isn't in the top four come Christmas, the usual groans of discontent will be heard.

[Redeo]

3 Aim to win one of the three cup comps we're in. Europa League would be the nicest prize

Not for FSG!

[scatman]

I'm just trying to find out where these nice places to eat are.

Swansea is shite, you're better off diving into the sea and catching some fish yaself.

[Coley_DP]

His song will have to be to the tune of Feeder's "Buck Rodgers"

[rednich85]

Why would you just quote that part of my post? Did I not say that the most valuable insight comes directly from Rodgers himself?

Because Rodgers didn't write an article on himself, did he?

I'd be worried if he did.