Author Topic: Brendan Rodgers (Read 146855 times)

mb1111 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 23, 2012, 07:23:59 PM »

He's supposed to be going to Wales - Mexico in New York on May 27th. Wonder if he'll take a little drive and accidentally end up in Henry's office for a cuppa.

Much-Hyppia-Now · « **Reply #41 on:** May 23, 2012, 07:26:38 PM »

He does seem to be a perfect fit for us. I wonder if FSG just went and offered him the job, instead of asking him to go through the interview process, he would accept?

Acaustiq · « **Reply #42 on:** May 23, 2012, 07:26:50 PM »

Quote from: Callaghan. on May 23, 2012, 03:59:05 PM

Tuesday 6 March 2012

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/mar/06/brendan-rodgers-ruled-out-chelsea-manager?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

Chelsea job would 'destroy' my career, says Brendan Rodgers

He really impressed me with that.

Like (seemingly) everyone else, the more I learn about him, the more convincing he becomes.

Adeemo · « **Reply #43 on:** May 23, 2012, 07:29:24 PM »

Quote from: Much-Hyppia-Now on May 23, 2012, 07:26:38 PM

He does seem to be a perfect fit for us. I wonder if FSG just went and offered him the job, instead of asking him to go through the interview process, he would accept?

I pretty certain he would.

mightymoose1972 · « **Reply #44 on:** May 23, 2012, 07:35:40 PM »

Quote from: james_lfc on May 23, 2012, 06:21:14 PM

top 10 average possession 2011/12:

1. arsenal - 59.6%
2. city - 57.7%
3. swansea - 57.6%
4. utd - 57.3%
5. spurs - 56.3%
6. chelsea - 55.4%
7. liverpool - 55%
8. wigan - 49.9%
9. fulham - 48.9%
10. wolves - 47.8%

http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/2/Seasons/2935/Stages/5476/TeamStatistics/England-Premier-League-2011-2012

That's an amazing stat, thanks for sharing.

mightymoose1972 · « **Reply #45 on:** May 23, 2012, 07:36:58 PM »

Quote from: Callaghan. on May 23, 2012, 03:53:12 PM

Great summary Callaghan, many thanks for putting this together.

I didn't know very much about Brendan, I know a little more now... Cheers

Hyypia headers · « **Reply #46 on:** May 23, 2012, 09:19:48 PM »

Don' t know much about him, but the more I read, who knows? I'm on the fence now.

Red Dane · « **Reply #47 on:** May 23, 2012, 09:24:27 PM »

He turned us down, right, or have i missed something? Is he still a possibility?

Barefoot Doctor · « **Reply #48 on:** May 23, 2012, 09:38:54 PM »

Quote from: Red Dane on May 23, 2012, 09:24:27 PM

He turned us down, right, or have i missed something? Is he still a possibility?

Think so. Most believe he'll be willing to come back in once the shortlist is whittled down to two or three. If it's just Villas Boas and Martinez then he'd have a real chance of getting the job.

AlphaDelta · « **Reply #49 on:** May 23, 2012, 09:42:13 PM »

Call me picky, or old fashioned or whatever, but if Brendan Rodgers has turned down the chance to become our manager the first time, then Brendan Rodgers can fook right off. This isnt Aston Villa or Wigan Athletic, some mediocre mid-table team, this is Liverpool Football Club, the Rolls Royce of football.

Do one Rodgers, you had your chance!

abhred · « **Reply #50 on:** May 23, 2012, 09:42:33 PM »

Really, really impressed from his interviews.

Barefoot Doctor · « **Reply #51 on:** May 23, 2012, 09:47:00 PM »

Quote from: AlphaDelta on May 23, 2012, 09:42:13 PM

Call me picky, or old fashioned or whatever, but if Brendan Rodgers has turned down the chance to become our manager the first time, then Brendan Rodgers can fook right off. This isnt Aston Villa or Wigan Athletic, some mediocre mid-table team, this is Liverpool Football Club, the Rolls Royce of football.

Do one Rodgers, you had your chance!

There's a massive difference between being offered the job and being asked to come an interview as one of 12 candidates. He was right to say no to that. It doesn't mean he wouldn't love to be our manager.

AlphaDelta · « **Reply #52 on:** May 23, 2012, 09:55:39 PM »

Quote from: Barefoot Doctor on May 23, 2012, 09:47:00 PM

There's a massive difference between being offered the job and being asked to come an interview as one of 12 candidates. He was right to say no to that. It doesn't mean he wouldn't love to be our manager.

But if you believe that you are exceptionally good at your job, then one of the biggest employers in your field invite you for an interview, surely if you even suspected you had a decent chance of beating the other 11 candidates, you'd have that interview?

KopMcGinty · « **Reply #53 on:** May 23, 2012, 09:58:19 PM »

Beyond Swansea playing a really good game, I honestly knew next to nothing about Rodgers. To the point his 'declining' had a distinct meh so what reaction from me. I won't say i am suddenly thinking we must have him but there is a lot of food for thought from the OP there.

His philosophy and manner of implementing it does seem a very good fit for what we need. Controlled possession, that desire to play with the ball but not at the expense of discipline and shape sounds a very good fit. Whether he could replicate that with the higher expectations and how he would manage more 'elite' players ego aswell as his ability to spend big money well is totally untested of course so you can't say he is a perfect fit but he really does come across brilliantly in those interviews and made interesting reading.

Barefoot Doctor · « **Reply #54 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:10:00 PM »

Quote from: AlphaDelta on May 23, 2012, 09:55:39 PM

But if you believe that you are exceptionally good at your job, then one of the biggest employers in your field invite you for an interview, surely if you even suspected you had a decent chance of beating the other 11 candidates, you'd have that interview?

I'm sure he has belief in himself, but he may have been under the impression that he wasn't the favourite, or second favourite, or third favourite, so decided not to go for it because he knew he wasn't going to get it.

Anyway, if it's true that FSG have decided not to approach Villas Boas, then I really hope FSG go back to him. I'm sure he'd fancy his chances against Martinez if it was just a straight choice between the two of them.

MassDriver · « **Reply #55 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:11:54 PM »

Great work OP...

I wouldn't mind either Rodgers or Martinez to be honest. Both believe in passing football and value of possession. Their ideas ARE translatable at a big club.

I like the fact that Rodgers believes in 'defending through possession' too. Very few teams in England do that for some reason. It is a highly effective tactic in shutting down games when protecting a lead.

Martinez is more 'attacking' and a bit more direct. Much less defensive solidity as compared to Rodgers but his teams offer more dynamic movement and opportunities to score. Again should do much better with that approach at Liverpool than he did at Wigan(not a bad achievement keeping em up for 3 seasons on a pittance of a budget).

I am not half as closed minded as many on RAWK about a fresh faced young manager given his big chance at Liverpool. It could backfire to be honest but we can say the same about any appointment.

royhendo · « **Reply #56 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:12:29 PM »

I voted for him in the poll. He'd be perfect.

No666 · « **Reply #57 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:13:35 PM »

Anyone think it will be an appointment in tandem - Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal and Rodgers por ejemplo?

MassDriver · « **Reply #58 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:16:10 PM »

Quote from: royhendo on May 23, 2012, 10:12:29 PM

I voted for him in the poll. He'd be perfect.

Loving the idea of 60% plus possession and 400 plus passes every match we play.

smicer07 · « **Reply #59 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:17:09 PM »

Quote from: MassDriver on May 23, 2012, 10:16:10 PM

Loving the idea of 60% plus possession and 400 plus passes every match we play.

It'd take years to implement that though. He wouldn't have enough time.

bigbear · « **Reply #60 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:17:19 PM »

One decent year in the League, does that qualify for one of the biggest jobs in the country ?

In that case go find George Burley, Mike Walker, Curbs, Harry Basset or David O'Leary and see what they're up to. This next year Swansea may well be relegated.

Barefoot Doctor · « **Reply #61 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:17:20 PM »

Quote from: MassDriver on May 23, 2012, 10:16:10 PM

Loving the idea of 60% plus possession and 400 plus passes every match we play.

Stevie07 · « **Reply #62 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:20:58 PM »

The Guardian article suggests it's between Martinez and Rodgers as we're no longer interested in Villas Boas. Is Rodgers now prepared to back himself and go for an interview? If not surely it will be Martinez.

mb1111 · « **Reply #63 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:22:44 PM »

Quote from: Stevie07 on May 23, 2012, 10:20:58 PM

The Guardian article suggests it's between Martinez and Rodgers as we're no longer interested in Villas Boas. Is Rodgers now prepared to back himself and go for an interview? If not surely it will be Martinez.

He's apparently in America (New York) on Sunday to watch Wales so I guess we'll soon find out.

Barefoot Doctor · « **Reply #64 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:23:09 PM »

Quote from: bigbear on May 23, 2012, 10:17:19 PM

One decent year in the League, does that qualify for one of the biggest jobs in the country ?

In that case go find George Burley, Mike Walker, Curbs, Harry Basset or David O'Leary and see what they're up to. This next year Swansea may well be relegated.

Villas Boas had less than season in football with Academica before becoming Porto manager. He won everything he could with them in the first season. Some managers just have it - Rodgers is a very, very good manager.

MassDriver · « **Reply #65 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:23:42 PM »

Quote from: smicer07 on May 23, 2012, 10:17:09 PM

It'd take years to implement that though. He wouldn't have enough time.

Our players are mostly technically competent and used to passing football. All they need is some direction and fine tuning. I don't see why not.

Tepid water · « **Reply #66 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:23:45 PM »

Quote from: bigbear on May 23, 2012, 10:17:19 PM

One decent year in the League, does that qualify for one of the biggest jobs in the country ?

In that case go find George Burley, Mike Walker, Curbs, Harry Basset or David O'Leary and see what they're up to. This next year Swansea may well be relegated.

This is the big big problem with an up and coming manager....

I could add john Gregory who had a similar record.....

Still, he seems to be very focused on developing his talents and seems a student of the game....

If we're all honest we just don't know how he would do in the job though...

He seems a bit more "heavy weight" that Martinez though....

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #67 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:30:48 PM »

I'd be way more keen on Rodgers than Martinez. What's he's done is special, overachieving massively, playing a brand of football we'd love to play. Watching us play Swansea late on in the season and they just looked a side with way more hunger to start with, but they had a plan, and the players knew what was expected of them. We had none of those things that day.

Obviously still huge questions, and a gamble. But If it 's Martinez or Rodgers, Rodgers every time. With Van Gaal as grand overseer or whatever title they put on him? It's exciting if nothing else.

SalifSaysShutIt · « **Reply #68 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:36:03 PM »

Quote from: bigbear on May 23, 2012, 10:17:19 PM

One decent year in the League, does that qualify for one of the biggest jobs in the country ?

In that case go find George Burley, Mike Walker, Curbs, Harry Basset or David O'Leary and see what they're up to. This next year Swansea may well be relegated.

I think he is actually distinguished from that group by the style of football his teams play, the disciplined way they retain the ball and press high up the field. I don't really recall O'Leary or Curbishley's teams doing that. You don't hear a clamour for the likes of Paul Lambert or Ian Holloway here, despite them being young managers who have achieved a fair measure of success with lesser clubs. Brendan Rodgers is going to be big IMO, whether it is with us or with someone else. His philosophy fits perfectly with the kind of game I would like to see us playing.

For me, given that Rafa seems to have been ruled out, I think Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal as a DoF with Rodgers as manager would be an excellent fit.

buzzing · « **Reply #69 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:46:09 PM »

Quote from: smicer07 on May 23, 2012, 10:17:09 PM

It'd take years to implement that though. He wouldn't have enough time.

We were dominating most of our game without scoring. Take out our wingers and swap them with say dyer and sinclair and we'd be much better off than we are

farawayred · « **Reply #70 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:46:58 PM »

The more I read about him, the more I like him. To me, he's the best of the trio with Martinez and Villas-Boas. I voted for Klopp, but he would be out of his mind to leave the German champions for us.

locultom · « **Reply #71 on:** May 23, 2012, 10:58:46 PM »

sold. Great post Cally.

helmboy_nige · « **Reply #72 on:** May 23, 2012, 11:03:03 PM »

Absolutely superb OP. I really loved swanseas style of play this year and Rodgers always seemed decent and respectful. Those interviews have really surprised me. A working class pass and move tactician.

And he could really a work with van gaal.

Much more positive about him than Martinez.

TomDcs · « **Reply #73 on:** May 23, 2012, 11:03:45 PM »

Quote from: Kashinoda on May 23, 2012, 06:57:40 PM

Suddenly, Rafa aside, I really want Brendan Rodgers.

me twelve

JavierMascherano20 · « **Reply #74 on:** May 23, 2012, 11:07:32 PM »

Quote from: AlphaDelta on May 23, 2012, 09:42:13 PM

Call me picky, or old fashioned or whatever, but if Brendan Rodgers has turned down the chance to become our manager the first time, then Brendan Rodgers can fook right off. This isnt Aston Villa or Wigan Athletic, some mediocre mid-table team, this is Liverpool Football Club, the Rolls Royce of football.

Do one Rodgers, you had your chance!

Well, as they say, each to their own. I can completely understand as to why Rodgers apparently rejected the chance to hold talks. Still, right now, things seem to be messy and confusing with regards to the managerial situation. If he had of tried to come here and then been overlooked for someone else, then it may have caused him problems at Swansea.

He also understands that he is still learning a lot and that next season will be another massive challenge for Swansea. At least he didn’t just shut his eyes and pretend that everything will work out fine. Make no mistake about it; we are without a doubt in a transition period now, given the amount of changes which have happened throughout the club. It’s probably not the best time for many managers to come here and oversee things.

I still like the guy and perhaps in two or three years it might happen. I would not be against it further down the line if Swansea remain in the Premiership and progress each season.

AisoD · « **Reply #75 on:** May 23, 2012, 11:11:55 PM »

Quote from: AlphaDelta on May 23, 2012, 09:42:13 PM

Call me picky, or old fashioned or whatever, but if Brendan Rodgers has turned down the chance to become our manager the first time, then Brendan Rodgers can fook right off. This isnt Aston Villa or Wigan Athletic, some mediocre mid-table team, this is Liverpool Football Club, the Rolls Royce of football.

Do one Rodgers, you had your chance!

Well said. The man's got one hell of an ego on him if he can't handle being interviewed for a job. This man abused our name by publicly rejecting us just so he can score some points with the Swansea fans and to keep him pride intact. Swansea can keep him.

mb1111 · « **Reply #76 on:** May 23, 2012, 11:14:04 PM »

Quote from: AisoD on May 23, 2012, 11:11:55 PM

Well said. The man's got one hell of an ego on him if he can't handle being interviewed for a job. This man abused our name by publicly rejecting us just so he can score some points with the Swansea fans and to keep him pride intact. Swansea can keep him.

You expect a man to piss off his club and supporters to go for a job he would have had a 10% chance of getting? But unfair.

Barefoot Doctor · « **Reply #77 on:** May 23, 2012, 11:16:48 PM »

Quote from: AisoD on May 23, 2012, 11:11:55 PM

Well said. The man's got one hell of an ego on him if he can't handle being interviewed for a job. This man abused our name by publicly rejecting us just so he can score some points with the Swansea fans and to keep him pride intact. Swansea can keep him.

You couldn't have it more wrong if you tried.

helmboy_nige · « **Reply #78 on:** May 23, 2012, 11:17:22 PM »

Well you've got my hopes up for him now. Guaranteed we won't hire him as that's sods law!

JavierMascherano20 · « **Reply #79 on:** May 23, 2012, 11:18:23 PM »

Quote from: AisoD on May 23, 2012, 11:11:55 PM

Well said. The man's got one hell of an ego on him if he can't handle being interviewed for a job. This man abused our name by publicly rejecting us just so he can score some points with the Swansea fans and to keep him pride intact. Swansea can keep him.

That’s a slight over-reaction don’t you think? He abused our name? Behave.

He has an ego? How so? He wants to stay at a club who he has guided to the Premiership. He was also offered the chance to hold talks. That doesn't even mean that he was going to get the job. Imagine how that might reflect at Swansea City when they know that he doesn't want to be there anymore. Also, all I keep reading is how people are rejecting to hold talks with us. It says something to me.

Perhaps Brendan Rodgers has removed his rose-tinted glasses and understands just how difficult this job is actually going to be. It will never be an easy job anyway but we're definitely at a very tricky stage this summer. He’s still only thirty nine years of age and maybe he doesn’t want to take that risk right now.

Disclaimer: It would be funny if we now hired Brendan Rodgers as our manager.