Author Topic: Roberto Martinez - Wigan Manager (Read 103924 times)

And Could He Play · « **Reply #1080 on:** May 25, 2012, 06:43:56 PM »

Quote from: Lord Vader on May 25, 2012, 06:38:48 PM

i can't say a bad word about wheelan from the snips i've heard over the season from him, he seems a guy true to his word and an old timer, he's also not daft, new managers always bring some players with them so he may if RM comes to us pull 20 million in, i'd be amazed if moses didn't follow

Fuck Moses, we need jesus Christ himself.

SalifSaysShutIt · « **Reply #1081 on:** May 25, 2012, 06:44:52 PM »

Quote from: USC19Babel on May 25, 2012, 06:40:58 PM

What I mean is that whatever Whelan says in the media should have 0 effect on the person leading the search for a replacement manager, be he Ayre or whomever.

Fair enough, I applaud you for giving Ayre and the owners the benefit of the doubt.

Lucas DuoFlush · « **Reply #1082 on:** May 25, 2012, 06:46:03 PM »

Quote from: helmboy_nige on May 25, 2012, 06:42:36 PM

Like others on here I think Whelan is trying to scupper the deal. Not sure if it will work, but if I was FSG I'd be furious at the unprofessionalism and asking Martinez to not pass any information to Whelan until discussions are concluded.

To be fair, it isn't ethical either for Martinez to not talk to his current employer regarding his status as an employee. What if Martinez suddenly announces hes Liverpool manager a day before the season starts? Whelan is out of order for talking about it, but Martinez can't keep quiet.

ghost1359 · « **Reply #1083 on:** May 25, 2012, 06:50:42 PM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/7UM8GQJoqz4&feature=relmfu" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/7UM8GQJoqz4&feature=relmfu</a>

Stumbled across this series of videos from a Wigan fans forum. Very revealing, seems to be a huge fan of Cruyff. Obviously some of the questions put to him are shite but it's interesting.

swordfishtrombone · « **Reply #1084 on:** May 25, 2012, 06:51:06 PM »

Quote from: Lucas DuoFlush on May 25, 2012, 06:46:03 PM

To be fair, it isn't ethical either for Martinez to not talk to his current employer regarding his status as an employee. What if Martinez suddenly announces hes Liverpool manager a day before the season starts? Whelan is out of order for talking about it, but Martinez can't keep quiet.

Bollocks. We approached his employer, and were given permission to speak to him. Given that Whelan's a mouthpiece, I can't imagine RM's prospective employers are happy with everything being fed back to him and subsequently the world.

Cruiser · « **Reply #1085 on:** May 25, 2012, 06:54:48 PM »

Quote from: degsy45 on May 25, 2012, 06:38:57 PM

Its gonna be like watching Brazil , you heard it here first

Like Brazil '82. All will end in tears.

Cid · « **Reply #1086 on:** May 25, 2012, 06:59:42 PM »

Didn't Martinez have a superb record prior to Wigan? I don't think any manager could have done better than he has working under Whelan really.

USC19Babel · « **Reply #1087 on:** May 25, 2012, 06:59:56 PM »

I'd be really curious to see some Valencia supporters' initial reactions 11 years ago when unproven 41-year-old Rafa Benitez was given the manager's job on the back of their club reaching two successive European Cup finals.

If you can't get the point I'm making: I think some of the fans who are up-in-arms over the potential appointment of Martinez need to wind their necks in a bit.

JongWK · « **Reply #1088 on:** May 25, 2012, 06:59:56 PM »

Quote from: ghost1359 on May 25, 2012, 06:50:42 PM

Stumbled across this series of videos from a Wigan fans forum. Very revealing, seems to be a huge fan of Cruyff. Obviously some of the questions put to him are shite but it's interesting.

Fixed your video link. Remember to adjust the "200,200" code to the video's actual resolution.

Lucas DuoFlush · « **Reply #1089 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:00:05 PM »

Quote from: swordfishtrombone on May 25, 2012, 06:51:06 PM

Bollocks. We approached his employer, and were given permission to speak to him. Given that Whelan's a mouthpiece, I can't imagine RM's prospective employers are happy with everything being fed back to him and subsequently the world.

Its still correct business for Martinez to report to the man who currently employs him. If he didn't tell Whelan anything he'd be directly threatening WFC and Whelans business, which wouldn't be ethical. Whelan being a mouthpiece us just unfortunate.

ghost1359 · « **Reply #1090 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:01:16 PM »

Quote from: JongWK on May 25, 2012, 06:59:56 PM

Fixed your video link.

Cheers but it didn't need to be full size

it's audio only

JongWK · « **Reply #1091 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:02:26 PM »

Quote from: ghost1359 on May 25, 2012, 07:01:16 PM

Cheers but it didn't need to be full size it's audio only

See what happens when I "fix" before clicking on the video?

HighSix · « **Reply #1092 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:03:19 PM »

Quote from: sminp on May 25, 2012, 06:31:54 PM

There's something odd about all this.

We are led to believe we will interview 2 or 3 people
The journo's are saying Martinez hasn't been offered the job
Some ITK's are saying that they still expect Villas Boas to be offered the job
Whelan is saying Martinez has been offered the job

Does anyone think Whelan might be saying this to build up a backlash from Liverpool fans against Martinez's potential appointment in the hope that it puts FSG off making an offer?

The journos are feeding on scraps & 'ITKs' making up stuff as usual. At least we know Whelan is in contact with Martinez, he might be a loud mouth but sadly he probably is most credible if you cut through the rubbish.

ghost1359 · « **Reply #1093 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:03:58 PM »

Quote from: JongWK on May 25, 2012, 07:02:26 PM

See what happens when I "fix" before clicking on the video?

It's the thought that counts

Robbo1980 · « **Reply #1094 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:05:20 PM »

I for one am not considering suicide like some, i think Martinez could be a great manager given a chance, comes across very well.

Especially if he is only part of a team, with a GM above him (like Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal) even better.....

I wouldnt want him in charge of everything though as Whelan puts it...

Robbo1980 · « **Reply #1095 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:07:00 PM »

Now that is just fucking annoying

Torpedo Tommy · « **Reply #1096 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:11:55 PM »

Quote from: And Could He Play on May 25, 2012, 06:43:56 PM

Fuck Moses, we need jesus Christ himself.

FusionFury · « **Reply #1097 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:12:47 PM »

Martinez's red army!

Torpedo Tommy · « **Reply #1098 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:13:54 PM »

Quote from: Robbo1980 on May 25, 2012, 07:05:20 PM

I for one am not considering suicide like some, i think Martinez could be a great manager given a chance, comes across very well.

Especially if he is only part of a team, with a GM above him (like Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal) even better.....

I wouldnt want him in charge of everything though as Whelan puts it...

That is the key to you statement. If appointed, will he be given time and, if he is more importantly, how much time will be given?

Aristotle · « **Reply #1099 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:15:02 PM »

Quote from: And Could He Play on May 25, 2012, 06:43:56 PM

Fuck Moses, we need jesus Christ himself.

Yet another player who can't deal with crosses. PASS!

jfc · « **Reply #1100 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:15:50 PM »

tactically martinez is astute and a good thinker of the game , I doubt anyone can dispute that his brand of football is great to watch, wigan seem to play in clever patterns with every player knowing there options/outlets on the ball and the role they need to perform.

hopefully he will also be strong in phasing out players such as carragher and playing gerrard in the AM or RM roles. Initially the only thing which puts me off is that he's not a name which will attract players, however he is an engaging guy so that could make a difference perhaps. I wouldn't mind his appointment at all, Rafa was my number 1 choice though but I wouldn't be upset with Roberto though

smicer07 · « **Reply #1101 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:16:44 PM »

Quote from: jfc on May 25, 2012, 07:15:50 PM

tactically martinez is astute and a good thinker of the game , I doubt anyone can dispute that his brand of football is great to watch, wigan seem to play in clever patterns with every player knowing there options/outlets on the ball and the role they need to perform.

hopefully he will also be strong in phasing out players such as carragher and playing gerrard in the AM or RM roles. Initially the only thing which puts me off is that he's not a name which will attract players, however he is an engaging guy so that could make a difference perhaps. I wouldn't mind his appointment at all, Rafa was my number 1 choice though but I wouldn't be upset with Roberto though

He can't be that great if he managed to lose 9 straight matches.

kcbworth · « **Reply #1102 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:16:56 PM »

Quote from: Aristotle on May 25, 2012, 07:15:02 PM

can't deal with crosses. PASS!

Carlito Roberto · « **Reply #1103 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:20:51 PM »

Quote from: And Could He Play on May 25, 2012, 06:43:56 PM

Fuck Moses, we need jesus Christ himself.

farawayred · « **Reply #1104 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:26:15 PM »

Quote from: Aristotle on May 25, 2012, 07:15:02 PM

Yet another player who can't deal with crosses. PASS!

What do you mean? He got on the end of the first one intended for him...

And Could He Play · « **Reply #1105 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:40:26 PM »

Quote from: Aristotle on May 25, 2012, 07:15:02 PM

Yet another player who can't deal with crosses. PASS!

oh fucking hell

aka_da_saus · « **Reply #1106 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:41:52 PM »

Quote from: USC19Babel on May 25, 2012, 06:59:56 PM

I'd be really curious to see some Valencia supporters' initial reactions 11 years ago when unproven 41-year-old Rafa Benitez was given the manager's job on the back of their club reaching two successive European Cup finals.

If you can't get the point I'm making: I think some of the fans who are up-in-arms over the potential appointment of Martinez need to wind their necks in a bit.

exactly mate.didnt rafa get relegated twice before valencia job? who knows how good of a manager he is

Driver 8 · « **Reply #1107 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:44:55 PM »

Quote from: kcbworth on May 25, 2012, 06:16:46 PM

How do you figure that? I don't recall a single statement by the club whatsoever?

We know they've asked for permission to speak to him and met him in the US; unless they go around wasting other clubs' time and dragging people away from their holidays for pointless meetings to throw everyone "off the scent" for some obscure reason (which could make sense with a player, but why would you with a manager?) then I think it's safe to conclude he's one of the leading contenders, if not the leading candidate.

finnansounderrated · « **Reply #1108 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:45:57 PM »

Quote from: aka_da_saus on May 25, 2012, 07:41:52 PM

exactly mate.didnt rafa get relegated twice before valencia job? who knows how good of a manager he is

Maybe we should let Valencia trial all managers for us and only take the ones that win La Liga?

redannie · « **Reply #1109 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:45:57 PM »

Quote from: vishy01234 on May 25, 2012, 05:09:08 PM

Dave Whelan is really covering himself in glory isn't he. So unprofessional and embarassing. I suppose all that money he has makes him feel he can shoot his mouth off whenever he likes. Sad man.

He's now informing the world that fergie is likely to be retiring next year due to health problems, the man is unbelievable I think our owners should be putting a gag on him

Brentie · « **Reply #1110 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:48:17 PM »

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/stevie-on-new-boss-rumours

This being posted on lfc.tv news section makes m efully convinced they've decided to go with Martinez.

Adeemo · « **Reply #1111 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:49:28 PM »

If he is our man, I'm pretty desperate to see us give 3-4-3 a decent go, reckon it would suit us down to the ground.

planet--terror · « **Reply #1112 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:50:57 PM »

Quote from: And Could He Play on May 25, 2012, 06:43:56 PM

Fuck Moses, we need jesus Christ himself.

Quote from: Aristotle on May 25, 2012, 07:15:02 PM

Yet another player who can't deal with crosses. PASS!

classic..sigd ,,

Aristotle · « **Reply #1113 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:56:15 PM »

Quote from: Brentie on May 25, 2012, 07:48:17 PM

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/stevie-on-new-boss-rumours

This being posted on lfc.tv news section makes m efully convinced they've decided to go with Martinez.

Might be. But then again it's all over the media and they could just be taking part in that. You know, more views, more revenue etc.

Channo · « **Reply #1114 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:59:45 PM »

Quote from: Adeemo on May 25, 2012, 07:49:28 PM

If he is our man, I'm pretty desperate to see us give 3-4-3 a decent go, reckon it would suit us down to the ground.

How would you see the players fitting into that sort of formation? I think it would heavily rely on Danny Agger staying fit at the back.

Would be interesting because it places much more emphasis on Pepe returning to his sweeper role too. The four I guess could be glenn, hendo, lucas and Downing. Wasn't it on the anfield Wrap they said Downing could be a left back.. this could be the next best thing!

A front three of stevie, carroll and suarez?

I think it'd be brown trousers time any time anyone attacked down our left hand side.

budew · « **Reply #1115 on:** May 25, 2012, 07:59:50 PM »

I remember we said the same thing two years ago about Pellegrini after that video was posted on lfc tv. but i think they're just delaying the inevitable. just appoint him already!!

mccred · « **Reply #1116 on:** May 25, 2012, 08:01:06 PM »

Quote from: jfc on May 25, 2012, 07:15:50 PM

tactically martinez is astute and a good thinker of the game , I doubt anyone can dispute that his brand of football is great to watch, wigan seem to play in clever patterns with every player knowing there options/outlets on the ball and the role they need to perform.

hopefully he will also be strong in phasing out players such as carragher and playing gerrard in the AM or RM roles. Initially the only thing which puts me off is that he's not a name which will attract players, however he is an engaging guy so that could make a difference perhaps. I wouldn't mind his appointment at all, Rafa was my number 1 choice though but I wouldn't be upset with Roberto though

Think that pretty much sums up how I feel. Still don't believe a word Whelan says though. Guess time will tell, if it is Martinez and he hits the ground running then the support will get behind him. Problem is I love a good conspiracy theory and I bet we have all the top 7 teams from last season in our first 10 games, 6 of which will be away. He comes out of that with 20 plus points, I'll be happy!

.Mike · « **Reply #1117 on:** May 25, 2012, 08:04:44 PM »

I still dont think it will be him, just got a feeling...

Lucas DuoFlush · « **Reply #1118 on:** May 25, 2012, 08:07:17 PM »

3-4-3 hasn't been a regular starting formation in England since the 90's, its gone the way of the Dodo. It is an ex-Dodo.

Yiannis · « **Reply #1119 on:** May 25, 2012, 08:07:38 PM »

If RM is to be named our next manager,good luck to him and really hope he will make us better.He seems a nice fella too.As a fan though,i just can't be excited for a manager that his achievements in the Premiership are avoiding relegation with Wigan in the last fixtures of each season(well at least the last years).