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Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« on: May 22, 2012, 06:01:46 PM »
Last season saw a few questions – that previously fans had only whispered – voiced with concern and an accusatory tone. These questions were levelled squarely at the feet of Pepe Reina. Aware that some mistakes had been costly, with him being the main culprit, he responded to the criticism by saying:

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“If I am man of the match, it won’t change anything – the mistakes I’ve made this season wouldn’t be forgotten by me.

“I don’t think my season has been good at all. It has been below my standards and I know I haven’t been great. There have been a number of mistakes by me.

“I had six really good years before this and people got used to that level from me, but sometimes you have a dip in form and must accept it.”

- Pepe Reina

These words were an admission of culpability and spoken with the grace of a true professional. Pepe has set extremely high standards in his previous years at the club and also was a breath of fresh air after our search for a reliable and consistent performer between the sticks. The criticism has been a little louder as of late, so I decided to investigate Reina’s previous form and then to compare him against his peers for completeness.

Firstly we need to acknowledge the loss of Xavi Valero when he left with Rafa. He was a massive loss to both Pepe and Torres for different reasons. Valero came to Liverpool in 2007 just after hanging up his boots. He took over from his personal friend Jose Ochotorena in the goalkeeping coach role. Whilst Ochotorena never really produced a goalkeeper of real ‘presence’ for us, he did well to develop a more rounded and consistent performer than Joe Corrigan had previously.

Although there are no direct quotes attributed to Reina there was speculation that he was unhappy with the level and detail of coaching he had been receiving since Rafa’s departure:

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“There’s talk he [Reina] is not happy with the coaching he gets. He has to take a close look at his own form and get to the bottom of why it has dipped.

-          John Aldridge

If we take the season we challenged for the title as the starting point of Reina’s analysis, we get the following key statistics from each of those seasons:









So these are the base statistics. We can see that after a flawless 09/10 campaign (the last Valero was here for) that Reina had managed to get his errors down to zero. The season preceding that was three which is a dramatic drop. There isn’t enough data to make a conclusive statement but I would be willing to say that the season-by-season improvement Reina showed as a relatively young goalkeeper under Valero was evident to those who watched us avidly. There is an argument to be had over whether coach and player reached the pinnacle of their relationship in that last season.

What’s interesting to note as well is the goals conceded column and the clean sheets number. Despite finishing with our lowest points total in roughly fifty years we still only conceded the same amount of goals as we did in 09/10 but we finished a massive 11 points off the points total for the same season. In one way this is heartening as it indicates we are not suddenly conceding a massive glut of goals so the quality is still there. The fact our points total has diminished so much though indicates we are conceding more costly goals. This hints at a common problem or team issue and not individual. This is supported statistically by our low goal return to cancel opposition goals, or less so by the weak mental strength or tendency to give goals away in drabs – this could be a genuine mistake or simple lack of concentration.

The following season to go from the lowest number of mistakes possible to more than he had made in the whole of 08/09 indicates that he was missing his coach and perhaps an indication of defensive woes. The season just gone it rose again incrementally by one. So is this a defence problem or can it be attributed more to the goalkeepers performance. In order to start the analysis, we must first find out if the defence has presented more chances to the opposition and if so, has the goalkeeper performed consistently or have the standards dropped?



So, looking at the above table and concentrating just on goalkeeping performance, we can see our goals conceded is a respectable amount but hasn’t got back to our best. We can further see that Reina’s standards have dropped in terms of his save percentage. But then we also have to look at the chances we are conceding, and when we do it’s astounding that Reina has managed to only have a dip and not a full-blown out collapse.

It’s amazing to think that in the years 09/10 and 10/11 we saw a 25% growth on the chances we gave away to opposition. It’s a testament to Clarke that the figures are receding since he has come in but we still haven’t turned the corner, we’ve seen an overall 15% shrinkage but this still doesn’t balance even one year’s growth. At this rate it would take three seasons to get the defence back into the shape it was.

Having said this we must be extremely careful as we have been lucky to have Reina in goal. If we look at Arsenal and United they have both had goalkeeping issues. Spurs and Chelsea seem to have solid keepers but they are still below the quality of Reina. Hart has emerged over the last couple of seasons as a real top goalkeeping prospect though.

So, if we compare Reina to his peers, we can see how he is doing in comparison with our rivals and if there is a standout problem in his game that could be influencing us as a team.



What’s surprising about these stats is that Reina has been beaten the least (by some way as well) from distance. His saves whilst standing hold up well to scrutiny and comparison with other as well which indicates his positioning is fine. His diving save statistic is quite low compared to others though.

Bearing in mind the stats from the above table as well, I think we can see that we are getting an increased number of chances against us and these chances are coming close in to our goalmouth making them more difficult to save. Reina has faced the fewest amount of shots on target this season (119), the others in this piece for comparison are between 126 & 155. I think this also ties into the common sight for most fans this season of us getting done on the counter when we are vulnerable or outnumbered. This would also be supported by the low outside the box scoring numbers.

Lastly we have also spoken about Reina and coming off his line with regards to conceding goals. In terms of himself this has been a poor season for clearances and catches in his own area as illustrated:



The drop is quite substantial, but he doesn’t seem to have any confidence issues with his handling. His saves caught are comparable with others of his ilk and he is not parrying the ball over enthusiastically. Although this is just my speculation, I would hint that major changes like what we see there (which appear to against the natural game of a player) are often coach induced. He may have been instructed to let the defence deal with more or to stay on his line more for example, but this is just idle speculation on my part.

In conclusion I would say Pepe has had a dip overall namely to do with confidence and quality of chances we are giving away. The sight of a striker bearing down on goal usually equates to a goal in the top leagues because they are rare sights relatively speaking. Not last season they weren’t.

Also, this piece highlights just how desperate Arsenal are for another goalkeeper, and have been for many years now. Let’s just be grateful we have Pepe in the meantime
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 06:03:35 PM »
He has gotten to comfortable he knows there is no one at the club to challenge him

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 06:08:06 PM »
This is probably really annoying because I'm only going to pick up on a bit of this, and that is the last few paragraphs.

Its my belief that we're seeing the change in Pepe in part due to the dropping back line. I think Andy Heaton or another of the Anfield Wrap lot might have made this point is that as we are playing so much further back Pepe doesn't have the space that he once did to make the punches and collect the ball the way he once did. Further to this, I'd suggest that perhaps our movement away from zonal marking means that when corners come in, everyone and their dogs are making a movement towards the ball, whereas with the zonal philosophy, you'd only make movements within your zone, perfect for someone as mobile as Pepe to be able to move through towards the ball.

But I might be talking out my arse. It happens more often than not.

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 06:36:02 PM »
 At the end of the day Pepe is playing in a team that finished 8th. His stats will never be as high as previous campaigns where we've finished higher! Its all variables with a keeper, the shots may have been punched more often as it was the best thing to do in that particular situation?  Of course hes had a few ropey moments this year and hes conceded a few more than he usually would but Pepe is the best out there and i wouldnt swap him for anyone.
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2012, 06:39:37 PM »
He has gotten to comfortable he knows there is no one at the club to challenge him

Has here ever been?

IMO you don't lose your touch, you can have bad seasons (look at Cech previously). Won't help that defence has been under change at times and team as a whole has been under par.
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2012, 07:19:36 PM »
Needs a new challenge I reckon.
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2012, 07:19:52 PM »
Can't fault goal keepers to much  some mistakes are inevitable some are errors of judgement, over all would we swop him for any other can't think of any one better than him. Loss of form? could be we have been poor in midfield after the loss of Lucas and the stats show that but hope we can retain his services for a few seasons longer(10) lol

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2012, 07:29:23 PM »
Brilliant as usual lachesis, still a top top keeper for me. Players play better in better teams, including keepers. Once we have a team that is on form and winning games, i think pepe will be back to his old self.
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 07:30:26 PM »
Have to admire a man who is able to admit when he's not done the best job.

I believe he'll dedicate himself to improvement and that we can expect a better season.
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2012, 07:51:38 PM »
I think even he would admit himself this hasnt been his best season! Still think bringing Xavi Valero will help him

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2012, 07:55:20 PM »
Needs a new challenge I reckon.

No, he just needs to get back to basics.
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2012, 07:57:05 PM »
Had a poor season, but am convinced it's a blip.  Needs to be challenged and maybe he hasn't been up for it enough.  Needs to be motivated.

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2012, 07:57:53 PM »
No, he just needs to get back to basics.

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2012, 08:08:30 PM »
Reina is still a top keeper and knows he has not had one of his better seasons.He will be looking at were he has to improve in the closed season and im sure he will be right for the start.I would not swop him or want him to leave he is a world class goalie lets just hope he wants to stay.I will say that we all know he has not had his best season but most players go through this at some stage even top players.

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2012, 08:15:48 PM »
Have said it before that he has been very poor on  catching and commanding his box this season and poor on his near post.
Honestly thought he had lost his desire to be still at the club ?
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2012, 08:27:45 PM »
This is probably really annoying because I'm only going to pick up on a bit of this, and that is the last few paragraphs.

Its my belief that we're seeing the change in Pepe in part due to the dropping back line. I think Andy Heaton or another of the Anfield Wrap lot might have made this point is that as we are playing so much further back Pepe doesn't have the space that he once did to make the punches and collect the ball the way he once did. Further to this, I'd suggest that perhaps our movement away from zonal marking means that when corners come in, everyone and their dogs are making a movement towards the ball, whereas with the zonal philosophy, you'd only make movements within your zone, perfect for someone as mobile as Pepe to be able to move through towards the ball.

But I might be talking out my arse. It happens more often than not.

I'd agree with this. It also means we're giving up different sorts of chances; more close range, particularly headers (again, gut feeling without statistical backup), where Reina is weaker than on rushing out to meet a striker running onto a through ball when we have a higher line.
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2012, 08:28:45 PM »
He hasn't been the same since being told to be more English, but then he's not the only guilty one there.
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2012, 08:29:14 PM »
Bring back Rafa, Pako and Xavi Valero.

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2012, 08:31:48 PM »
This is probably really annoying because I'm only going to pick up on a bit of this, and that is the last few paragraphs.

Its my belief that we're seeing the change in Pepe in part due to the dropping back line. I think Andy Heaton or another of the Anfield Wrap lot might have made this point is that as we are playing so much further back Pepe doesn't have the space that he once did to make the punches and collect the ball the way he once did. Further to this, I'd suggest that perhaps our movement away from zonal marking means that when corners come in, everyone and their dogs are making a movement towards the ball, whereas with the zonal philosophy, you'd only make movements within your zone, perfect for someone as mobile as Pepe to be able to move through towards the ball.

But I might be talking out my arse. It happens more often than not.

First of all it has to be said he's made some BASIC mistakes this season in goal which is unlike him. But I think there is some credit to what you say. He is an aggressive goalkeeper by nature. Having the team getting deeper and deeper every year isn't helping him. Whilst we have a good unit in defence they are al culpable of making individual errors and it just seems like we are sometimes outnumbered at the back. Don't know what it is or if I'm just mad but we don't hunt in packs anymore. We don't protect eachother or make up for eachother's mistakes. Teams know that if they keep it tight at the back they WILL get a chance against us because it seems we can be got at and can sometimes be fragile as a unit.

I've got nothing to back any of that up with, just a feeling.
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2012, 08:36:37 PM »
Has changed his technique. It's quite obvious, in terms of his approach in one v ones - he used to ground his knee, not committing, aggressive in his closing down. Started a thread on his technique actually ages ago as I was supposed to do a bit of gk coaching for a bunch of kids and I'm frankly not very good at coaching goalies. What Reina did then was a benchmark and we did relatively well based on that.

Sweeping up and distribution have been below the mark but that's more a reflection of the team's setup than himself. As in he still passes well from the back he can be precise, but the players up front haven't taken good counter positions for him to make it count over the season.

Has made the odd mistake stopping supposedly straightforward shots.

All in all, he needs to be clear on the techniques that suit him, and build from there. You get the sense he's not quite comfortable with what he's got.

Edit: His anticipation also has dipped a little - he's either buying the basics too easily - iirc Peter Odim something from Hodgson's nest did a simple shape to shoot to one side then placed it the other and he bought it, RVP's against us was nearly impossible to go far post, had to go near, and that went in as well.
 

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2012, 08:52:16 PM »
For me he hasn't looked the same since the OG against Arsenal first game of Roy's time here. I used to have complete confidence in him but now I don't have the same optimism, for example, in the CL shoot out against Chelsea I knew he would win it for us. Hopefully it's just a long blip and the save against Lukaku will be the start of the recovery.

It can happen, the last couple of seasons I thought Cech was finished but it he seems he is back to his best. It's got to be a confidence thing.

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2012, 09:09:00 PM »
End of season was disappointing for him and the whole team, but I still have as much confidence in Pepe Reina as I ever have had. The man is a beast.

That being said, Valero would be amazing, absolutely amazing, to have back. Pepe's not the only one who benefited from having Valero on the staff; he helped strikers just as much.

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2012, 09:15:53 PM »
Stagnated, needs a change if I am honest.
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2012, 09:17:36 PM »
Stagnated, needs a change if I am honest.

A change to benefit him or a change to benefit us? (Almost sure you're saying the former..)

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2012, 09:23:03 PM »
A change to benefit him or a change to benefit us? (Almost sure you're saying the former..)

The project we're about to begin is probably not the one he signed up for when he first arrived at the club. Now would probably be a good time for him
to leave. He hasn't been great this season and if that desire/hunger doesn't return we'll probably see more of the same next year. Might be best for both parties.
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2012, 09:26:16 PM »
I've always been curious as to how much of a difference the goalkeeping coach actually makes. This season people have been quick to attribute his poor form to the changing of coaches and the earlier loss of Valero. While it obviously must make some difference, we also have to keep in mind that Reina is almost 30 and one of the top players in his position in the world. When I think back over the mistakes he's made this season, would a different goalkeeping coach really have made a significant difference? For instance the goal from Ramires that he conceded in the FA cup final - he should be covering his near post and he's experienced enough to know how to get his positioning right for that. I imagine it's one of those things that should already be ingrained in him as a player. In saying that, I have absolutely no insight whatsoever into the role of the goalkeeping coach and how much of an impact they have.

Personally I just think it's a blip. Class is permanent and I have full faith in Pepe. I think he holds his performances to a very high standard, and think he'll come back next season stronger, especially with more stability and structure in front of him.

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2012, 09:27:57 PM »
Might be best for both parties.

Highly doubt we'd be better off without Pepe Reina. World class keepers don't grow on trees, and this one already loves the club. Still one of our most important players in my mind

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2012, 09:40:41 PM »
Will people stop this competition bollocks, he's never had competition. The only thing thats different is the lack of a coach, no one to tell him what mistakes he's making and how to rectify those mistakes. Bring back valero its that simple and you'll see an improved pepe.

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2012, 10:00:21 PM »
Have to admire a man who is able to admit when he's not done the best job.

I believe he'll dedicate himself to improvement and that we can expect a better season.

Hope he's determined to come back as great as he was.
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2012, 10:32:36 PM »
He hasn't been the same since being told to be more English, but then he's not the only guilty one there.
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2012, 10:53:36 PM »
Pepe Reina is a top keeper and always will be. He said himself it wasn't his best season, so I am going with 'out of form', especially due to the previous two season when, at times, he carried the team and made the difference of us drawing instead of getting battered. Wouldn't swap the man for no one.
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2012, 11:09:50 PM »
Excellent piece lachesis. Do you have the stats for when Reina had Skrtel/Agger infront of him (we played a much higher line) vs those conceded when Carragher was part of the defence? From what I saw there was a marked difference.

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2012, 11:23:38 PM »
Hasn't been his usual self this season but 1 in 4 aint bad.A number of things needs to happen next season.

1.carra needs to play less or retire and coates to be used as 3rd choice.That means the defence will play 10 yds higher up the field leaving pepe to play as his usual sweeper role.

2.We buy a top class replacement/partner for lucas so if he's out injured for any length of time we have good defensive cover form midfield which we had none of this season.

3.We need a top class gk coach who pepe can respect and who works well with.Maybe bring valero back if poss.Bollox to what aldo says,he's quick to critisize any player who doesn't perform but slow to praise anyone who deserves it i.e lucas.

4.We need to sign another gk.But Someone who is at least as good to be able to push pepe and keep him on his toes.No disrespect to doni or brad.

5.Our manager must be able to convince pepe to see the project through.

He should still start next season as 1st choice but the team cant continually carry a gk without it costing us points.If he regains his form we know there's noone better in the league and thats worth 10 points people say

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2012, 12:35:38 AM »
That save at 'the bridge' was his best moment this season.

Seems like the ideal keeper to fit in with Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas's style of play.

Any other manager - I'm not sure.

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2012, 12:37:06 AM »
Seems like the ideal keeper to fit in with Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas's style of play.

Was thinking that the other day, actually. With a high line and the sweeper role he's supposed to play and that our club teaches would make a good pairing. I'll sound like a broken record but he really needs Xavi Valero back.
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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2012, 01:48:11 AM »
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In conclusion I would say Pepe has had a dip overall namely to do with confidence and quality of chances we are giving away. The sight of a striker bearing down on goal usually equates to a goal in the top leagues because they are rare sights relatively speaking. Not last season they weren’t.

Precisely.

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2012, 02:58:16 AM »
It's waaay too early to claim he has lost his touch.  He has been out of form this season but that doesn't mean he won't be able to get back to his best.  He has already admitted his disappointment in his form this season and we can hope he will be able to bring that level back up to his previous best next season.

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2012, 03:07:45 AM »
He hasn't been the same since being told to be more English, but then he's not the only guilty one there.

I've felt that for some time.  The long ball distribution, rather than handing it off to Agger or Skrtel is a sign of this. You don't see too many long throws from him as much as he did under Rafa or only kicking the ball long if he feels there is an opportunity to quickly counter.

Seems like the ideal keeper to fit in with Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas's style of play.

Definitely agree

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2012, 03:21:05 AM »
Excellent analysis of an excellent keeper. Unreal that some think he should leave really, but there you go...

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Re: Pepe Reina: Out of form or lost his touch?
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2012, 03:35:43 AM »
Are we definitely bringing back Valero? If so it could really help Pepe.

He's had a poor season. But I also think when the team don't score goals, it puts immense pressure on the defense. Had we not struggled to score even one goal per game, the errors of defenders and goalkeeper wouldn't have stood out so much. Maybe that in turn damages players confidence as well.