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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2012, 08:35:55 PM »
The Liverpool Way is nothing more than an easy way to end a debate or discussion that has to do with any form of change at the football club these days.

"it's not the Liverpool way" should be a banned phrase on Liverpool forums
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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2012, 08:55:57 PM »
The Liverpool Way is nothing more than an easy way to end a debate or discussion that has to do with any form of change at the football club these days.

"it's not the Liverpool way" should be a banned phrase on Liverpool forums

Yes, it can mean anything now and is constantly used to back up any arguement when you have run out of evidence.  Its a millstone around our necks.

We were one of the first clubs to put a sponsor on our shirts - no one moaned then cos we were successful.  But put screens up at Anfield and we have sold our souls to the Devil.

Its all a bit pathetic really.
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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2012, 08:59:06 PM »
It means a lot of different things, but to me, if you need it explaining, then you don't get it
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There is another option. Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple.

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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2012, 09:06:45 PM »
It means a lot of different things, but to me, if you need it explaining, then you don't get it
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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2012, 09:10:28 PM »
Best one for me.

you didn't answer alans question on the previous page what was it  a picture of?

come on all you people who think its an excuse for failure what was the picture of?
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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2012, 09:20:01 PM »
It means a lot of different things, but to me, if you need it explaining, then you don't get it

I do not agree with that at all simply for the fact that something so intangible can mean so many different things to so many people.  Add to it the fact that people constantly reference it to prove their point or to argue against something than I feel that it needs to be explained in some sense.


I don't think it's ever been defined. Most peoples definitions say more about their own hopes and aspirations than anything to do with the club.

Can I ask what you think it means?

I always felt the Liverpool way meant the following:

The club should treat everyone with respect and dignity
Keep everything behind close doors and only release information when everything is done
Inform the fans of the reasoning behind decisions in due time after the decisions have been made
Keep fans generally updated on information it can
Fans should be patient with the club from both a football side of things and a business side of things

To me those seem the most important.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2012, 09:22:41 PM by mjjason »

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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2012, 09:29:38 PM »
I do not agree with that at all simply for the fact that something so intangible can mean so many different things to so many people.  Add to it the fact that people constantly reference it to prove their point or to argue against something than I feel that it needs to be explained in some sense.


I always felt the Liverpool way meant the following:

The club should treat everyone with respect and dignity
Keep everything behind close doors and only release information when everything is done
Inform the fans of the reasoning behind decisions in due time after the decisions have been made
Keep fans generally updated on information it can
Fans should be patient with the club from both a football side of things and a business side of things

To me those seem the most important.

Agree with it all not sure the information bits are really involved but that is all to do with respect, so I guess you are right. However I don't think it is anything to do with fans being patient on the business side, sure on the footballing side that is right, but when it comes to business the fans were never really involved or even bothered until recently.

The rough rule was that the directors didn't get involved in football matters and everyone else including the fans, manager etc... didn't get involved in the business side. It is only since information became more readily available that this has changed.
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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2012, 10:20:09 PM »
I always felt the Liverpool way meant the following:

The club should treat everyone with respect and dignity
Keep everything behind close doors and only release information when everything is done
Inform the fans of the reasoning behind decisions in due time after the decisions have been made
Keep fans generally updated on information it can
Fans should be patient with the club from both a football side of things and a business side of things

To me those seem the most important.

I think thats sound, everything flows from respect really both for yourself and others.

It implies a humility and a degree of fairness in our dealings with others were we would treat them as we would expect to be treated ourselves, whether thats an opposition club, our fans or the Board themselves.

It did as you suggest imply a degree of trust which cuts both ways. Ther has been no time for that trust to build.

So the issue at the moment is we do not have any visibility of a plan, no evidence to fall back on to keep the faith with and the one individual in the management structure who was trusted has been dismissed.
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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #48 on: May 19, 2012, 10:39:44 PM »
People keep saying were not a man city or chelsea but both one the biggest trophies this year..maybe were the deluded ones!! fuck me cant beleve i just saw torres with  chelsea scarf celebrating a CL medal with Meireles!! worst season by a long mile!!
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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #49 on: May 19, 2012, 10:44:01 PM »
People keep saying were not a man city or chelsea but both one the biggest trophies this year..maybe were the deluded ones!! fuck me cant beleve i just saw torres with  chelsea scarf celebrating a CL medal with Meireles!! worst season by a long mile!!

Aye, but our owners won't be putting around a £billion quid in, though like City and Chelsea have been this season - we are a bit of a circus at this moment in time.
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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2012, 12:08:31 AM »
[quote author=mjjason link=topic=293768.msg10358766#msg10358766 date=1337458801



I always felt the Liverpool way meant the following:

The club should treat everyone with respect and dignity
Keep everything behind close doors and only release information when everything is done
Inform the fans of the reasoning behind decisions in due time after the decisions have been made
Keep fans generally updated on information it can
Fans should be patient with the club from both





I understand your thinking, but to me, it's a feeling, knowing what is right, support, togetherness. I could go on
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There is another option. Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple.

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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2012, 12:18:53 AM »


I understand your thinking, but to me, it's a feeling, knowing what is right, support, togetherness. I could go on


I think thats a whole wider topic - about the holy trinity  - about socialism - about support - about players - about never giving up -  I thought in this context it was how it relates to the current ownership debate - been wrong before though

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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2012, 12:24:11 AM »
It ended when the Bootroom did. Sadly.

You're right ... to a point ... at least on playing matters and the running of the club.
But the ethos should still exist among the support.  Sadly that is slowly dwindling away as well.

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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2012, 12:27:01 AM »
I think thats a whole wider topic - about the holy trinity  - about socialism - about support - about players - about never giving up -  I thought in this context it was how it relates to the current ownership debate - been wrong before though




I wasn't separating anything really, I think it all links together, more so in the current climate. I just
Think it's instinctive really, but I have had a good drink and might not be making too much sense, not helped by tonight's inevitable conclusion in Munich
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There is another option. Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple.

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« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2012, 12:31:58 AM »
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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2012, 12:51:01 AM »
The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie — deliberate, contrived and dishonest — but the myth — persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.

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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #56 on: May 20, 2012, 01:00:34 AM »
Hi

There are 2 posters on here who are active - Vicgill and wooltonian. If you get a chance read some of there posts especially the history ones. This will give a background to the Liverpool way and the fabric of it. Another poster, sadly who's no longer here but lives on in RAWK's spirit is Shanklyboy. This should ensure you are left with no doubt of what the Liverpool way is all about
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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #57 on: May 20, 2012, 01:26:51 AM »
'To me' the Liverpool Way meant what other have said about doing business with respect, dignity and behind closed doors.  It also meant something from the fans...  You support the club and manager, period.

The club seemed to have lost its way a little but so have the fans. I understand no one liked Hodgson but what the supporters did was not the Liverpool Way. If the club keep things behind closed doors some of the supporters quickly assume that the club have no plan and that they are morons. So in a way the club cannot operate in the Liverpool Way.

So really the question is who lost the Liverpool Way first, the club or the supporters?  In this age of 24 hour news and mass international supporters I am not sure the original Liverpool Way is possible. So we need to come up with what the new Liverpool Way means.  The club must go first and the supporters must follow or it will not work.

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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #58 on: May 20, 2012, 01:36:54 AM »
lots of clubs have elements of what some perceive as the Liverpoolway.
I think the Liverpool way is a romantic myth some of our fans have made up to some how make us look down on other clubs.
No club does it perfect, not even Liverpool.
Was it the Liverpool way when the kop where singing Dalgish when Hodgson was in charge?

Enough of the romance and fairy tales, we live in a commerical football world, the Liverpool way is whatever brings in the most revenue, and so it should be until FIFA or UEFA change the rules.

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« Reply #59 on: May 20, 2012, 01:52:01 AM »
I think the liverpool way was, is and should keep being, support the team and enjoy the game.

Why football isn't fun anymore?

- Way too many people wants changes/answers now now now, but at the same time want to keep things behind close doors, but are also fed by the media frenzy and get carried away with any little thing or rumour.

- People think they know all +1 about football and how the game should be played, and dare the manager to put something different to what they think and then the team is shit, the manager is shit, the owners are shit, we've been shit all season.

- Negativity is way over the top and makes everything you watch unbearable to watch.
               If we win: we are shit because we should be winning by more goals, pure luck because those players aren't good enough, etc.
               If we draw: how can we draw, team isn't performing what they should, strategies are all wrong.
               If we lose: I knew we were shit, manager got all wrong, players are shit, this is the reflection of the whole season.

- If you don't make money, you don't compete, because money is money and is the only solution now, because we need results now. Fuck all patience and build up a system and play like other teams have shown (Dortmund, Barcelona, etc).

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« Reply #60 on: May 20, 2012, 01:52:13 AM »
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« Reply #61 on: May 20, 2012, 02:02:44 AM »
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=265312.0

I asked this a year and a half ago.  I wonder if anything has changed, and if so, what. 
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« Reply #62 on: May 20, 2012, 06:18:34 AM »
Someone said it in one of the other threads, it is about doing things right...I think the quote was along the lines of "man united were the glam club, arsenal an spurs were the fancy dans...we were the club that did things right" ...that encapsulates it for me, we always took the right step, from the Kop not singing on cue for panorama, to John smith, Peter Robinson, making paisley the manager, appointing dalglish, postponing games after hillsborough and attending funerals, transfers, dealing with the media....we had a view, an ethical one, that guided policy and principle, that was followed and fitted into our creed of winning...we were the best club in the land, not merely cos we spent the most money or bought the best players (which we did) but because the club had a philosophy that was followed by the leaders of the club, instilled throughout for serving the purpose of the club - winning trophies

Now as much as cash flow may replace winning trophies, you do not get one without the other....

Nothing we have done in the last few years discerns us from other clubs, and we do not do things as well as other clubs and wonder why we fail....manager's fault? Nah, systematic failure.....
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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #63 on: May 20, 2012, 06:20:19 AM »
Aparently being  obsessed with how Chelsea does in Europe is part of the Liverpool way. Shankly would be proud. 

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« Reply #64 on: May 20, 2012, 06:27:55 AM »
I guess the Liverpool way at the end of the day, was all about winning.

Clearly, this is not what are doing for the last 20 years. So good to see a shift from FSG.

Okay, you just confirmed it. You don't understand anything about the club, or how we went about things in the past.
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« Reply #65 on: May 20, 2012, 07:27:56 AM »
Bringing in Kenny Dalglish to stabilise the club and unite the fans is "The Liverpool way"....

....sacking him 16 months later is not.


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« Reply #66 on: May 20, 2012, 07:31:08 AM »
Bringing in Kenny Dalglish to stabilise the club and unite the fans is "The Liverpool way"....

....sacking him 16 months later is not.


I'd say that's pretty much confirmation that it's dead, at least under these owners.

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« Reply #67 on: May 20, 2012, 07:33:19 AM »
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« Reply #68 on: May 20, 2012, 08:17:15 AM »
Just seems people keeping changing what it means to suit their own agenda.

Looking at the forum in the last couple of days, you definitely would think so. Mentioned in a post earlier, if you say you want it done the Liverpool way, you have to accept the 'code' as a whole.

During the Cowboys era, people cried for everything to be done behind closed doors.

Slowly, but surely, FSG have kept things in house most of the time I'd say, and people have begun to grow restless. This situation we now face is a classic case of it. People want to know who's advising FSG, why was Kenny sacked the way he was, people want to suggest the managers of their liking, criticize FSG etc etc. That's not the Liverpool Way, from what history suggests.

The Liverpool Way was something easy to implement and talk about the the days gone by as the only source of information and news used to be the good old news-paper. It's not so now with the advent of all the media and tw@tter etc.

It comes as a package. A two-way thing. But I'm getting a feeling the modern fan who wishes to embrace the Liverpool way, has realized that it's a case of biting off more than they could chew :)


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« Reply #69 on: May 20, 2012, 08:32:13 AM »
I was discussing this with my dad (who is also a RAWKite) just the other day. We'd read a lot of the drama and infighting on here and all the arguments from fans about 'The Liverpool Way' and being a wise old sage that he is he made a good point: The Liverpool Way started with Shankly, and it was all about the boot room and the dynasty that he left. It was about keeping things in house and respectful. From Shankly the torch went to Paisley and so on. We had a good line of managers who lived and breathed LFC for years before managing or playing an important role in the club and that's why they got it, and that's why fans got behind them. The fact that the men in charge got us as a city and as a group of supporters meant they got 100% backing, that's no longer the case. The boot room is gone, the dynasties are gone (for now) and so we're left as supporters trying to act as respectfully as possible. The Liverpool Way for now is a bit lost inside the club as far as I'm concerned, if FSG chose to bring in a mercenary or somebody who hasn't lived and breathed Liverpool then unless they prove they 'get it' there's no real reason for us to act the same way that we did towards Shanks, Paisley etc.

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« Reply #70 on: May 20, 2012, 08:55:31 AM »
It means loyalty in the boardroom, patience on the stands, confidence from the players and trust to the manager to me. How many clubs can say they've gone 112 years in their history without sacking a manager?

And I think it's fearsome to think that two of those factors are getting destroyed. There is no loyalty in the boardroom and no trust to the manager anymore. The patience in the stands has been eroding too, the confidence from the players as well. I honestly fear that if Liverpool go on like this, in five years time The Liverpool Way will be dead.
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« Reply #71 on: May 20, 2012, 09:06:16 AM »
It means loyalty in the boardroom, patience on the stands, confidence from the players and trust to the manager to me. How many clubs can say they've gone 112 years in their history without sacking a manager?

And I think it's fearsome to think that two of those factors are getting destroyed. There is no loyalty in the boardroom and no trust to the manager anymore. The patience in the stands has been eroding too, the confidence from the players as well. I honestly fear that if Liverpool go on like this, in five years time The Liverpool Way will be dead.

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« Reply #72 on: May 20, 2012, 09:09:43 AM »
102 years.

Wasn't Houllier the first one we sacked, didn't Souness move himself? Even then it's a long time though.
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« Reply #73 on: May 20, 2012, 09:20:04 AM »
Wasn't Houllier the first one we sacked, didn't Souness move himself? Even then it's a long time though.

Souness was sacked. Ged left.
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« Reply #74 on: May 20, 2012, 09:32:39 AM »
Souness was sacked. Ged left.

'...by mutual consent' which means he was sacked but in a nice way.
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« Reply #75 on: May 20, 2012, 09:35:08 AM »
'...by mutual consent' which means he was sacked but in a nice way.

Better than ya know...sacked sacked.
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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #76 on: May 20, 2012, 09:46:51 AM »
This is what I wrote about it when people began calling for Kenny's head two months ago:

The Death of the Liverpool Way


I love tattoos, but I don’t have any bodyart myself. I think the main reason for 
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at least one, is that I was scared I’d wake up one day, ten or twenty years down
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The Liverpool Way.

Brian Reade in his must-read book Epic Swindle infers the Liverpool Way has been an
Albatross around the clubs neck, and a barrier to progress. I disagree, but only
because I think the sentiment of ‘The Liverpool Way’ is often misinterpreted. Of
course it will be argued that the Liverpool Way is subjective, but again I’d beg
to differ. For me The Liverpool Way is pretty clear cut; it is simply about
dignity, respect, integrity, patience, loyalty and humour.


These values have been tested over the years and collectively we’ve passed with flying
colours, but over two-decades of not winning the league hurts, and it has
inevitably seen some fans, and players lose sight of the Liverpool Way and what
it means. There is no doubting that every one of these people love Liverpool
Football Club, and they all believe they are doing what is in its best interests
but sometimes we hurt the ones we love, even unintentionally and by hacking away
at those values they are hacking away at the very fabric of the club we love,
and at what makes us the best fans in the world.

Best fans in the world? That phrase rings a little hollow at this moment in time.
Liverpool have just been beaten 3-2 after Mark Hughes’ QPR mounted an unlikely
comeback after being two goals behind with just 13 minutes to spare at Loftus
Road. Now I’ve always believed in the psychological advantage of keeping a
player on the pitch who terrifies defences, which is why at times I couldn’t
understand why Rafael Benitez would substitute Torres in tight games. So I was
similarly perplexed when Dalglish decided to give Suarez a rest when there was
only a goal in it, and QPR were on a high after scoring, it just seems logical
that keeping a player of Suarez ability out there, even if he just stood on the
halfway line like a scarecrow would keep the QPR players on edge but I’m not a
manager and as with Rafael Benitez before him, I’ll bow down to the current
Liverpool Manager’s knowledge over mine every day of the week.

In hindsight Dalglish made a big mistake in substituting Luis Suarez, but hindsight
is 20/20 and what manager doesn’t make mistakes? It was an horrific capitulation
and I am probably as angry as everyone else is about throwing away a two-goal
lead but lets keep one thing clear; Kenny Dalglish is a legend at this
club.

I’ll admit I was a bit worried when Kenny first took over, I like most reds wanted
him to return to the job every day from the day he quit in 1991 until the moment
Rafael Benitez walked into Melwood in 2004. It wasn’t that I was worried he
wasn’t good enough or that he had been out of the game too long, but rather I
feared for his reputation in this climate where the demand for instant success
is so great. It’s sad to say given the insults and calls for the managers head
on Twitter, Facebook and various Liverpool forums after the QPR match it appears
I may have been right, but someone pointed out to me recently that he’ll never
lose his legendary status to those who matter.

It shocked me when Rafael Benitez was being called a Fat Spanish Waiter by our own
fans, and that was one of the nicer names I heard used. Don’t get me wrong it is
fine to have an opinion and to want a change in management but when two
Liverpool managers, and two of the nicest men the game has produced in Rafael
Benitez and Kenny Dalglish receive abuse from their own fans, after all they
have done for this club then it really has to be addressed. These two men,
barring some catastrophic decision like writing for the S*n or managing
Manchester United will forever have my love, admiration and respect. If we go on
the worst run in LFC’s history and get relegated to the championship and then
down to league 1 then my opinion won’t alter one iota, and why?

Liverpool (1977–1990)
- Football League First Division (7): 1978–79, 1979–80, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1985–86, 1987–88
- FA Cup (2): 1985–86, 1988–89
- Football League Cup (4): 1980–81, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84
- Charity Shield (7): 1977 (Shared)1979, 1980, 1982, 1986 (Shared), 1988, 1989
- European Cup (3): 1977–78, 1980–81, 1983–84
- European Super Cup (1): 1977

Liverpool (1985–1991, 2011– )
 - Football League First Division (3): 1985–86, 1987–88, 1989–90
- FA Cup (2): 1985–86, 1988–89
- Football League Cup (1): 2011–12
- Charity Shield (4): 1986 (Shared) 1988, 1989, 1990 (Shared)

If that’s not enough then attending the funerals in 1989 of many of the victims of
the Hillsborough Disaster should be.

The fact is Kenny Dalglish loves this club as much as any fan, there is nothing he
would love more than to build Liverpool Football Club up into a bastion of
invincibility again. If he can’t do it then it won't be through a lack of
trying. What makes this abuse even more confusing is that we’ve already got a
trophy in the cabinet this season, and potentially another, two F.A Cup ties
away. Anyone that has vented their feelings in the form of verbal abuse towards
our current manager should feel very ashamed today, you’re just another death
knell in the Liverpool Way.


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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #77 on: May 20, 2012, 10:24:33 AM »
"the liverpool way"
basically it was doing things right by our club and other clubs. we have been respected for this and praised by others for it.

about 10-15 years ago football changed and like a lot of things we have been slow to change from what worked in the 60's,70's,80's and understandably. managers have changed, players have changed, the media has changed and fans especially have changed.

we have to adopt a new "liverpool way" that suits todays conditions.
a stable base, board and manager are working together. at the minute we have none.
information on a need to know basis, don't lie but give what information we can to the fans without jepordising club plans
money has to be made and invested, this is the land we live in now and if you want sucess you have to accept it

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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #78 on: May 20, 2012, 10:50:56 AM »
I was discussing this with my dad (who is also a RAWKite) just the other day. We'd read a lot of the drama and infighting on here and all the arguments from fans about 'The Liverpool Way' and being a wise old sage that he is he made a good point: The Liverpool Way started with Shankly, and it was all about the boot room and the dynasty that he left. It was about keeping things in house and respectful. From Shankly the torch went to Paisley and so on. We had a good line of managers who lived and breathed LFC for years before managing or playing an important role in the club and that's why they got it, and that's why fans got behind them. The fact that the men in charge got us as a city and as a group of supporters meant they got 100% backing, that's no longer the case. The boot room is gone, the dynasties are gone (for now) and so we're left as supporters trying to act as respectfully as possible. The Liverpool Way for now is a bit lost inside the club as far as I'm concerned, if FSG chose to bring in a mercenary or somebody who hasn't lived and breathed Liverpool then unless they prove they 'get it' there's no real reason for us to act the same way that we did towards Shanks, Paisley etc.

Just mine and my dads two pence.

This is my view on it as well (though you put it more eloquently than me :))

Parry for all his failings did appoint 2 'outside' managers who embraced the club and did their best to restore the Liverpool Way. Hicks Gillett & Purslow undid any steps we took to reclaiming The Liverpool Way
« Last Edit: May 20, 2012, 10:53:44 AM by WavertreeRed »
Will you please kindly refrain from all this rational common sense bollocks.

Someone has said something on a social networking site, so it must be true.

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Re: The Liverpool Way
« Reply #79 on: May 20, 2012, 11:10:20 AM »
I have been thinking about it recently and had a few minutes (and access to a thesaurus  8), so picked out some of the words being suggested  and came up with this acronym:

Loyalty
Integrity
Virtue
Energy
Respect
Patience
Oneness
Obstinacy
Love

Wit
Ambition
You'll Never Walk Alone


Struggled a bit with the second O.  Also thought about "Winning Mentality" or "Wisdom" for the W. 

Thoughts?
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