Topic: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?

[kenworthy]

He would not have posted that with his father's backing.

Agreed

[GoodSpirit]

Main reason: It´s Liverpool FC.

Other reasons:

-A truly new project in the best club of UK
-Long term goals, probably with the necessary financial support
-Spirit of the supporters, unique in the world
-A real oportunity of winning the Premier League, any coach in the world dreams with it
-Excelent oportunity for start a new era and work with talented players integrated in a real challenge

[L666KOP]

this is my take on it as well, they want a manager with less power, so a young coach would be the target surely,

someone like Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas might fancy it to prove something to himself and his critics, Martinez would fancy it because it is a big club looks good on the CV,

Like Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas at Chelsea, a failure at Liverpool and it's likely to condemn him to the Wigans of the world forever.
Don't forget Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas is 'getting another chance' because of his work at Porto, if he bomb's out here it could well be a long time before he get's another go.

[Adeemo]

Paul Dalglish  ‏@pauldalglish

..Instanbul was my greatest ever memory as a Kopite so i am biased. My heart says Rafa but i think it will be Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas!

[Stretch Armstrong]

Main reason: It´s Liverpool FC.

Other reasons:

-A truly new project in the best club of UK
-Long term goals, probably with the necessary financial support
-Spirit of the supporters, unique in the world
-A real oportunity of winning the Premier League, any coach in the world dreams with it
-Excelent oportunity for start a new era and work with talented players integrated in a real challenge

We'll beat that positivity out of you soon, just wait for the summer transfer forum to hit full steam

[farawayred]

Like Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas at Chelsea, a failure at Liverpool and it's likely to condemn him to the Wigans of the world forever.
Don't forget Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas is 'getting another chance' because of his work at Porto, if he bomb's out here it could well be a long time before he get's another go.

This. Exactly the type of people FSG would be looking at - those who need to catch the last train. Probably their motivation would be greater, but would their skill set be sufficient?

[Resurrected]

Eh? Don't think the young English criteria applies to the manager?

We are after a football manager not a young hottie aren't we - if Natalie Portman gets the job I will be furious, she's not even got her UEFA coaching badges

Somehow, i read that as 'UEFA coaching vadges'

[redmark]

I have not heard much about Laudrup and his achievements. Only things i had been aware of is his time in Spain which from what i can recall wasn't the best. People seem happy him being on the shortlist.

Could anyone please fill me in what he could bring to the club if given the chance?

I think Rossipersempre is RAWK's resident Laudrup advocate from previous discussions, though I can't find the post I was thinking of...

Royhendo did an article on Laudrup as possible manager in January 2011. http://www.level3football.com/royhendo/article/michael_laudrup_would_you_back_him_as_the_next_liverpool_manager

Though Laudrup did think Poulsen was a good signing for Liverpool...

[HighSix]

After listening to TAW im warming to Martinez under the correct structure. I like the idea of giving a young manager his chance at a big club & not some ones else's damaged goods. Cant see Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas next job being in England unless its at Spurs.

[L666KOP]

Paul Dalglish  ‏@pauldalglish

..Instanbul was my greatest ever memory as a Kopite so i am biased. My heart says Rafa but i think it will be Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas!

Another wannabe ITK, they come from everywhere, even got the nerve to use Kennys name. What's he know anyway.

[hedger]

What I explained is logic, but you can talk logic to logical people. You counter with digs and handbags and no logic. Think what you will.

Lol digs and handbags? 
You explained why Martinez couldnt be approached during Wigans season. I disagree. If he was the preferred candidate it would have been very easy to sound him out without anyone knowing. We are now approaching all sorts of managers who are, rightly imo, refusing to take part in the charade. I cannot recall any club in the world recruiting a new boss in this way

[Hazell]

Eh? Don't think the young English criteria applies to the manager?

We are after a football manager not a young hottie aren't we - if Natalie Portman gets the job I will be furious, she's not even got her UEFA coaching badges

If Natalie Portman gets the job, the world will be alright again.

[Stretch Armstrong]

Somehow, i read that as 'UEFA coaching vadges'

It's childish I know but I giggled. 

[DangerScouse]

Paul Dalglish ‏@pauldalglish
I believe the outstanding candidate is Rafa if you look at the big picture. A bad spell @ Inter should not affect his work at LFC & Valencia

Is the right answer. Well said PD.

[L666KOP]

This. Exactly the type of people FSG would be looking at - those who need to catch the last train. Probably their motivation would be greater, but would their skill set be sufficient?

It's not the skillset that worries me mate, it's more the mindset that sets these two apart.
Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas has had a winning/challenging mindset at the two clubs he's managed, Martinez has been all about a survival mindset.
How easy it would be for them to change I've no idea.

[RedSoc]

Lol digs and handbags? 
You explained why Martinez couldnt be approached during Wigans season. I disagree. If he was the preferred candidate it would have been very easy to sound him out without anyone knowing. We are now approaching all sorts of managers who are, rightly imo, refusing to take part in the charade. I cannot recall any club in the world recruiting a new boss in this way

Totally agree. Seems crazy to just fire at will and then hope the mess can be cleaned up later. Buy a mop and some 'Ajax' first...

[Resurrected]

Apparently, Plan B is to stop members of the public in the street and see if they want an interview. True story.

[kenworthy]

Apparently, Plan B is to stop members of the public in the street and see if they want an interview. True story.

I can accurately report that I have not been approached.

[Resurrected]

I can accurately report that I have not been approached.

Yet.....

[L666KOP]

Money going on Rodgers guys and gals.

He's come in from 16-1 to 5-1 in last hour.

Just saying like............

[kenworthy]

Yet.....

Shite, just got an email from Tom. You were right.

[hedger]

Apparently, Plan B is to stop members of the public in the street and see if they want an interview. True story.

They still have to recruit an in-the-street-stopper. Its the next position to be filled

[hedger]

Money going on Rodgers guys and gals.

He's come in from 16-1 to 5-1 in last hour.

Just saying like............

Ted Rodgers?

[L666KOP]

Shite, just got an email from Tom. You were right.

You not been PM'd yet then?

[Resurrected]

They still have to recruit an in-the-street-stopper. Its the next position to be filled

That's plan B fucked then. We'll be looking at 12 years and 37,000 candidates before they put that one into operation.

[Adeemo]

Ted Rodgers?

Our new manager and his assistant:

[Paul_h]

Its just absoulte madness ...if we do not appoint Rafa. So many of the top players want to work with him. Just look at all the top players that we had under Rafa. Alonso, Masch, Arbeloa, Torres, All now with the Barcas and the Madrids of this world..

would the next crop talent want to work with Martinez or Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas? this is a huge factor that the owners should be considering

[Resurrected]

Our new manager and his assistant:

Thank fuck it's not Martinez or Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas

[redmark]

Money going on Rodgers guys and gals.

He's come in from 16-1 to 5-1 in last hour.

Just saying like............

That's a fairly significant shift... difficult to read market changes, there's still money coming in on De Boer, Rijkaard, van Gaal and Di Matteo, to a lesser extent (all shortening slightly according to oddschecker).

[kenworthy]

Ted Rodgers?

Mr. Rogers? He did used to wear Red.

[hedger]

That's plan B fucked then. We'll be looking at 12 years and 37,000 candidates before they put that one into operation.

Theyre getting advice from pre-eminent people in the field

[kenworthy]

You not been PM'd yet then?

Sorry - it was actually for the street-stopper position. I "snubbed" them.

[L666KOP]

That's a fairly significant shift... difficult to read market changes, there's still money coming in on De Boer, Rijkaard, van Gaal and Di Matteo, to a lesser extent (all shortening slightly according to oddschecker).

It is for someone that's declined the chance of an interview....

[Adeemo]

Money going on Rodgers guys and gals.

He's come in from 16-1 to 5-1 in last hour.

Just saying like............

Wonder if we're going to see something about Rodgers in tomorrows papers?

[hedger]

Sorry - it was actually for the street-stopper position. I "snubbed" them.

Esther Rantzens odds are shortening

[L666KOP]

Sorry - it was actually for the street-stopper position. I "snubbed" them.

Same here, only I "distanced myself"

[rickythered]

Just got this of twitter. Apparently the next person to turn down the LFC managers job will have there benefits stopped. Felt guilty but raised a chuckle.

[Resurrected]

Just got this of twitter. Apparently the next person to turn down the LFC managers job will have there benefits stopped. Felt guilty but raised a chuckle.

That's brilliant. Laughing my head off

[Stevie07]

After listening to TAW im warming to Martinez under the correct structure. I like the idea of giving a young manager his chance at a big club & not some ones else's damaged goods. Cant see Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas next job being in England unless its at Spurs.

That was my thought after listening to TAW, Martinez may well be a good appointment if the right structure is put in place. The more I read and hear about Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas, the more the worried I get about him being anywhere near the job. I know he did a very good job at Porto but it doesn't just seem to be his management skills that failed at Chelsea but also his ability to create a bond with anyone at the club.

[kenworthy]

That was my thought after listening to TAW, Martinez may well be a good appointment if the right structure is put in place. The more I read and hear about Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas, the more the worried I get about him being anywhere near the job. I know he did a very good job at Porto but it doesn't just seem to be his management skills that failed at Chelsea but also his ability to create a bond with anyone at the club.

I'm not really thrilled by either. But is it weird that I warm to Martinez more than Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas the more I read about the structure FSG want to put in place?