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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #720 on: May 21, 2012, 07:38:51 PM »
He would not have posted that with his father's backing.

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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #721 on: May 21, 2012, 07:39:06 PM »
Main reason: It´s Liverpool FC.

Other reasons:

-A truly new project in the best club of UK
-Long term goals, probably with the necessary financial support
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-A real oportunity of winning the Premier League, any coach in the world dreams with it
-Excelent oportunity for start a new era and work with talented players integrated in a real challenge
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #722 on: May 21, 2012, 07:40:06 PM »
this is my take on it as well, they want a manager with less power, so a young coach would be the target surely,

someone like Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas might fancy it to prove something to himself and his critics, Martinez would fancy it because it is a big club looks good on the CV,

Like Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas at Chelsea, a failure at Liverpool and it's likely to condemn him to the Wigans of the world forever.
Don't forget Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas is 'getting another chance' because of his work at Porto, if he bomb's out here it could well be a long time before he get's another go.
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #723 on: May 21, 2012, 07:41:30 PM »
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #724 on: May 21, 2012, 07:42:10 PM »
Main reason: It´s Liverpool FC.

Other reasons:

-A truly new project in the best club of UK
-Long term goals, probably with the necessary financial support
-Spirit of the supporters, unique in the world
-A real oportunity of winning the Premier League, any coach in the world dreams with it
-Excelent oportunity for start a new era and work with talented players integrated in a real challenge

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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #725 on: May 21, 2012, 07:42:20 PM »
Like Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas at Chelsea, a failure at Liverpool and it's likely to condemn him to the Wigans of the world forever.
Don't forget Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas is 'getting another chance' because of his work at Porto, if he bomb's out here it could well be a long time before he get's another go.

This. Exactly the type of people FSG would be looking at - those who need to catch the last train. Probably their motivation would be greater, but would their skill set be sufficient?
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #726 on: May 21, 2012, 07:42:32 PM »
Eh? Don't think the young English criteria applies to the manager?

We are after a football manager not a young hottie aren't we - if Natalie Portman gets the job I will be furious, she's not even got her UEFA coaching badges


Somehow, i read that as 'UEFA coaching vadges'
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #727 on: May 21, 2012, 07:43:09 PM »
I have not heard much about Laudrup and his achievements. Only things i had been aware of is his time in Spain which from what i can recall wasn't the best. People seem happy him being on the shortlist.

Could anyone please fill me in what he could bring to the club if given the chance?

I think Rossipersempre is RAWK's resident Laudrup advocate from previous discussions, though I can't find the post I was thinking of...

Royhendo did an article on Laudrup as possible manager in January 2011. http://www.level3football.com/royhendo/article/michael_laudrup_would_you_back_him_as_the_next_liverpool_manager

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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #728 on: May 21, 2012, 07:43:13 PM »
After listening to TAW im warming to Martinez under the correct structure. I like the idea of giving a young manager his chance at a big club & not some ones else's damaged goods. Cant see Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas next job being in England unless its at Spurs.

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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #729 on: May 21, 2012, 07:43:55 PM »
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..Instanbul was my greatest ever memory as a Kopite so i am biased. My heart says Rafa but i think it will be Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas!

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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #730 on: May 21, 2012, 07:44:24 PM »
What I explained is logic, but you can talk logic to logical people. You counter with digs and handbags and no logic. Think what you will.

Lol digs and handbags?  ;D
You explained why Martinez couldnt be approached during Wigans season. I disagree. If he was the preferred candidate it would have been very easy to sound him out without anyone knowing. We are now approaching all sorts of managers who are, rightly imo, refusing to take part in the charade. I cannot recall any club in the world recruiting a new boss in this way

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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #731 on: May 21, 2012, 07:44:46 PM »
Eh? Don't think the young English criteria applies to the manager?

We are after a football manager not a young hottie aren't we - if Natalie Portman gets the job I will be furious, she's not even got her UEFA coaching badges

If Natalie Portman gets the job, the world will be alright again.
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #732 on: May 21, 2012, 07:44:48 PM »

Somehow, i read that as 'UEFA coaching vadges'


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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #733 on: May 21, 2012, 07:45:59 PM »
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I believe the outstanding candidate is Rafa if you look at the big picture. A bad spell @ Inter should not affect his work at LFC & Valencia

Is the right answer. Well said PD.

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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #734 on: May 21, 2012, 07:46:43 PM »
This. Exactly the type of people FSG would be looking at - those who need to catch the last train. Probably their motivation would be greater, but would their skill set be sufficient?

It's not the skillset that worries me mate, it's more the mindset that sets these two apart.
Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas has had a winning/challenging mindset at the two clubs he's managed, Martinez has been all about a survival mindset.
How easy it would be for them to change I've no idea.
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #735 on: May 21, 2012, 07:46:50 PM »
Lol digs and handbags?  ;D
You explained why Martinez couldnt be approached during Wigans season. I disagree. If he was the preferred candidate it would have been very easy to sound him out without anyone knowing. We are now approaching all sorts of managers who are, rightly imo, refusing to take part in the charade. I cannot recall any club in the world recruiting a new boss in this way
Totally agree. Seems crazy to just fire at will and then hope the mess can be cleaned up later. Buy a mop and some 'Ajax' first...

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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #736 on: May 21, 2012, 07:48:33 PM »
Apparently, Plan B is to stop members of the public in the street and see if they want an interview. True story.
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #737 on: May 21, 2012, 07:49:27 PM »
Apparently, Plan B is to stop members of the public in the street and see if they want an interview. True story.

I can accurately report that I have not been approached.
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #738 on: May 21, 2012, 07:50:15 PM »
I can accurately report that I have not been approached.


Yet.....
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #739 on: May 21, 2012, 07:51:06 PM »
Money going on Rodgers guys and gals.

He's come in from 16-1 to 5-1 in last hour.

Just saying like............
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #740 on: May 21, 2012, 07:51:20 PM »
Yet.....

Shite, just got an email from Tom. You were right.
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #741 on: May 21, 2012, 07:52:11 PM »
Apparently, Plan B is to stop members of the public in the street and see if they want an interview. True story.

They still have to recruit an in-the-street-stopper. Its the next position to be filled

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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #742 on: May 21, 2012, 07:52:37 PM »
Money going on Rodgers guys and gals.

He's come in from 16-1 to 5-1 in last hour.

Just saying like............

Ted Rodgers?

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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #743 on: May 21, 2012, 07:52:44 PM »
Shite, just got an email from Tom. You were right.

You not been PM'd yet then?
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #744 on: May 21, 2012, 07:53:50 PM »
They still have to recruit an in-the-street-stopper. Its the next position to be filled

That's plan B fucked then. We'll be looking at 12 years and 37,000 candidates before they put that one into operation.
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #745 on: May 21, 2012, 07:54:34 PM »
Ted Rodgers?

Our new manager and his assistant:

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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #746 on: May 21, 2012, 07:54:59 PM »
Its just absoulte madness ...if we do not appoint Rafa. So many of the top players want to work with him. Just look at all the top players that we had under Rafa. Alonso, Masch, Arbeloa, Torres, All now with the Barcas and the Madrids of this world..

would the next crop talent want to work with Martinez or Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas? this is a huge factor that the owners should be considering
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #747 on: May 21, 2012, 07:55:15 PM »
Our new manager and his assistant:




Thank fuck it's not Martinez or Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #748 on: May 21, 2012, 07:55:30 PM »
Money going on Rodgers guys and gals.

He's come in from 16-1 to 5-1 in last hour.

Just saying like............


That's a fairly significant shift... difficult to read market changes, there's still money coming in on De Boer, Rijkaard, van Gaal and Di Matteo, to a lesser extent (all shortening slightly according to oddschecker).
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #749 on: May 21, 2012, 07:55:42 PM »
Ted Rodgers?

Mr. Rogers? He did used to wear Red.


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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #750 on: May 21, 2012, 07:56:34 PM »
That's plan B fucked then. We'll be looking at 12 years and 37,000 candidates before they put that one into operation.

Theyre getting advice from pre-eminent people in the field

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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #751 on: May 21, 2012, 07:57:09 PM »
You not been PM'd yet then?

Sorry - it was actually for the street-stopper position. I "snubbed" them.
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #752 on: May 21, 2012, 07:57:39 PM »
That's a fairly significant shift... difficult to read market changes, there's still money coming in on De Boer, Rijkaard, van Gaal and Di Matteo, to a lesser extent (all shortening slightly according to oddschecker).

It is for someone that's declined the chance of an interview....
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #753 on: May 21, 2012, 07:58:06 PM »
Money going on Rodgers guys and gals.

He's come in from 16-1 to 5-1 in last hour.

Just saying like............


Wonder if we're going to see something about Rodgers in tomorrows papers?
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #754 on: May 21, 2012, 07:58:32 PM »
Sorry - it was actually for the street-stopper position. I "snubbed" them.

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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #755 on: May 21, 2012, 07:58:53 PM »
Sorry - it was actually for the street-stopper position. I "snubbed" them.

Same here, only I "distanced myself"
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #756 on: May 21, 2012, 07:59:00 PM »
Just got this of twitter. Apparently the next person to turn down the LFC managers job will have there benefits stopped. Felt guilty but raised a chuckle.
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #757 on: May 21, 2012, 08:00:49 PM »
Just got this of twitter. Apparently the next person to turn down the LFC managers job will have there benefits stopped. Felt guilty but raised a chuckle.


That's brilliant. Laughing my head off
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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #758 on: May 21, 2012, 08:01:41 PM »
After listening to TAW im warming to Martinez under the correct structure. I like the idea of giving a young manager his chance at a big club & not some ones else's damaged goods. Cant see Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas next job being in England unless its at Spurs.

That was my thought after listening to TAW, Martinez may well be a good appointment if the right structure is put in place. The more I read and hear about Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas, the more the worried I get about him being anywhere near the job. I know he did a very good job at Porto but it doesn't just seem to be his management skills that failed at Chelsea but also his ability to create a bond with anyone at the club.

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Re: Why should a top manager consider coming to Liverpool Football Club?
« Reply #759 on: May 21, 2012, 08:03:34 PM »
That was my thought after listening to TAW, Martinez may well be a good appointment if the right structure is put in place. The more I read and hear about Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas, the more the worried I get about him being anywhere near the job. I know he did a very good job at Porto but it doesn't just seem to be his management skills that failed at Chelsea but also his ability to create a bond with anyone at the club.

I'm not really thrilled by either. But is it weird that I warm to Martinez more than Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas the more I read about the structure FSG want to put in place?
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