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“The Road of Good Intentions Has Gone Dry as a Bone”*
« on: May 19, 2012, 12:08:43 am »
*Bruce Springsteen, We Take Care of Our Own (2012)

It began on Sunday 9th January 2011, a familiar face bestriding Old Trafford with clenched fists and a glint in his eye which seemed to say “hello again, old friend.” There were a few more wrinkles since we had last seen him take his seat on the bench as Liverpool manager, but in some ways it was like he had never been away - same passion, same presence. Same haircut too. But the game had moved on. When we had last seen him almost two decades ago, the three biggest clubs in England were managed by Scots and the nouveau riche down in west London were three years removed from promotion to the top division (and had Dave Beasant in goal). Times change. Amongst the über-cool managers of 21st century football with their pencil ties and dashing scarves, he probably looked out of place. Who cared about 21st century football though, really? In that moment you felt validated, vindicated, valued. His visible excitement betrayed the fact that not only was he the club’s new manager, he was also its number one fan. Always. He was just like you. In such an unpredictable environment and after everything we had been through over the past few months, this man simply understood. In an age of cold, harsh reality, he represented football’s greatest gift to the world: the chance to dream.

Flash forward just over a year later, to Wednesday 25th January 2012. Anfield was rocking. A 2-2 draw against League-leaders Manchester City had just seen Liverpool through to the Carling Cup final on an aggregate score of 3-2. A month later, Wembley would become Anfield South once again for the first time since 1996, a gap of almost 16 years. This game would become the emotional epicentre of the club’s season. It may not have been a European game and no silverware was handed out, but it was the kind of special night that this stadium, this club, has done so well for as long as I can remember. When Craig Bellamy coolly side-footed past Joe Hart on 74 minutes, the place just…erupted. And now the party was in full swing. It wasn’t the Champions League, but this club’s identity has long been intertwined with the lifting of trophies, even if their frequency has begun to resemble public transport over the past couple of decades (i.e. you wait ages for one and then two or three come along at once). It had been far too long since the club had picked up its last piece of silverware in 2006 and that, as much as anything, is why the place was jumping as the players made their way towards the tunnel on that memorable night in January.

Just before they got there, they were greeted by arguably the most legendary figure in the club’s history. Bill Shankly may have laid the foundations and Bob Paisley built a dynasty on them, but neither man became a legend as both a player and a manager before going on to lift an entire city in its darkest hour. Great men though they clearly were, this man is at least their equal and the very definition of what Liverpool Football Club has long considered itself to be – proud, passionate, hard-working, loyal and tough as nails. As Kenny Dalglish congratulated his players on their efforts in between applauding the supporters, his eyes began to well up with tears. In that moment, you knew all you ever needed to know about how much this club means to him – every bit as much as it means to the people in the stands, and then some. It said everything about him. It still does. And while we can argue about the results and performances produced during his 18 months or so in charge until the cows come home, only a fool would deny what this club lost with his departure last Wednesday. It cannot be defined. It cannot be replaced. It certainly cannot be bought. And before we move on to the next chapter in the club’s history, whatever that may bring, I think it’s only right to acknowledge that.

What is a football club? Bill Shankly once described it as a holy trinity between the manager, players and supporters. In his vision, directors only existed to sign the cheques, ideally remaining somewhere in the background until he saw a player he wanted to bring to the club, out of sight and very much out of mind until their presence was required. Times have changed. Back then, a club like Nottingham Forest could win a League title and a pair of European Cups based on nothing more than appointing the right man in the dugout. He would then go to work on signing the best players available and moulding them into a winning unit while his employers and supporters generally sat back and waited patiently, over a period of years rather than months, for success. There was really nothing more to it than that. These days, things are far less straightforward. Even Bill Shankly or Brian Clough, managing the clubs at which they remain legends, would find it difficult to win major trophies in an era where the very best players are immediately rendered off-limits by financial restraints and in which a manager must answer not only to the owners of a football club but in many cases Directors of Football, chief-executives, managing directors and even shareholders.

These days, even the right manager can simultaneously be the wrong manager. Arséne Wenger has kept Arsenal in the Champions League for 13 seasons in a row, yet because he has failed to win a trophy since 2005 and his team has not managed a serious League title challenge since 2008, many Gunners supporters apparently want him gone. By contrast, here we are bemoaning a third season in a row outside of that same Champions League, with many of us arguing (including, it would seem, the club’s owners) that a top-4 finish is now actually more important than silverware. Not too long ago we had a man who was delivering both about as well as could be expected, but a season has become an eternity in football. Shankly once survived five barren years (six if we discount the Charity Shield) only to emerge on the other side and win a League Championship and FA Cup before retirement. These days, he would be lucky to get 18 months. Ditto Alex Ferguson who, legend has it, only saved his neck back in 1990 with an FA Cup in a season which had otherwise seen his team finish five points above relegation in 13th place. These days, a League Cup win, an FA Cup final and an 8th place finish gets you the sack. This is the new reality.

Make no mistake, Fenway Sports Group had no hand in what football has become, but they are learning the rules of engagement pretty quickly. All of football’s disparate elements have long since been broken down in much the same manner as the owners have begun breaking down this club over the past few weeks, piece by piece. The overriding goal, it seems, is to rebuild it again, not simply with a lick of paint or a new set of door handles but as a kind of Liverpool F.C. Version 2.0. Whether or not this is good depends very much on your viewpoint. The game itself has been rebuilt over the past two decades into a big-business, profit-driven, hyped-up entertainment extravaganza which is the first cousin of television shows like X-Factor and Britain’s Got Talent, the overriding goal being simply to get people watching. A club like Liverpool has always been somewhat incongruous in that environment, some would say splendidly so, yet at the same time many of us have long bemoaned how slowly it took the club to assimilate itself into the new era of commercialism signalled by the establishment of the Premier League in 1992. The feeling, however, has always been that Liverpool could retain its core identity while still being competitive in this changed landscape.

Maybe we were wrong. The owners of the club certainly seem to think so. In order to compete in this brave(?) new world, in order to make a return on their investment and be successful, the club’s owners have deemed it necessary to dispense with many of the qualities which have long been stitched into the DNA of Liverpool Football Club, qualities such as sentiment, loyalty and patience. You see, in a business environment, such characteristics are crippling weaknesses and, like it or not, our football club is now first and foremost a business concern just like all the rest. In this world of performance indicators, deliverables, corporate synergies and who knows what else, the ugly truth is that Kenny Dalglish simply didn’t provide enough “added value.” There have been many questions asked over the past few days since his departure: what is FSG’s vision, their plan, what structure will Liverpool F.C. have going forward, who is the right man to oversee that vision, will that man be the Director of Football or the manager of the team, can we even call him a manager anymore or is the term “head coach” more suitable now, etc. An equally important concern, in my view, is how this apparent shift in the club’s priorities and values affects its true lifeblood: the supporters.

What is a football supporter? Genuinely, I’m not setting up some kind of condescending ‘super-fan’ lecture here, honestly. Back in the day, it was an escape from working-class life, wasn’t it? Graft during the week, go to the match at the weekend; work hard Monday to Friday, dream on a Saturday, right? That’s changed too. These days, being a football supporter seems like a chore to so many. Time was when people paid what little money they had to go to a stadium and spend two hours of their life in often wretched conditions (being jostled, crushed and occasionally pissed on) because they enjoyed it. They actually put themselves through hardship to watch their team play. These days you see people leaving the stands with five, ten minutes to go if their team looks likely to lose. The nature of what it means to be a “supporter” has changed, just like the game itself. There is suddenly (probably not all that “suddenly,” if I’m being honest) this expectation that you’re going to be handed something to shout about, get excited about, sing about. Supporting a team used to be its own reward, now it’s something you suffer through in the hope that you might be given a reason to cheer at some point. This idea of hardship is one which was promoted to death by entities like Sky until it became reality.

There has also been a shift in how supporters are viewed by their clubs, concurrent with the changes we have seen in the game itself over the past two decades. I mentioned this in a post the other day, but I’ll say it again here: there are people this very second in far-flung corners of the world who are hearing the name Liverpool F.C. for the first time and – just like that – they are now of equal importance to lifelong Reds who have spent every spare penny sustaining a football club so that one day a group of foreign businessmen might go “hmmm, that seems like an interesting investment.” Money is money to them, no matter where it comes from. The essence of being a football supporter has now been reduced to the price-tag of a replica shirt, nothing more. With all due respect to foreign fans (I am one myself), nobody matters more than the hardcore, local, Scouse support. I’m Irish. Over here (maybe you have it there as well), we have a little thing called “parish.” That’s where you’re from. That’s who you are. That’s your roots, your spirit. A football club is no different, especially this one. Its community is its soul. You wander too far from that, and there’s no telling where it will end. And on Wednesday, Liverpool F.C., for whatever reason, took a big step away from itself.

I know only too well the limitations which Kenny’s team showed this season. They were terrifyingly inconsistent at times, both in terms of results and style of play. Sometimes (and I’m not a “tactics” expert but these points seem obvious) they pressed high and attacked, other times they sat deep and become passive for no apparent reason. Entire games (e.g. Bolton and Sunderland away) saw largely wretched, submissive performances, while on other occasions the team looked strong, even in defeat (e.g. Arsenal and West Brom at home). Victories too often existed in isolation, bad following good almost like night and day. Players were played out of position at times, team selections left us scratching our heads at others. Many of his signings took some time to look the part. Some only did so in fits and starts, others basically didn’t perform at all. And yet he still felt as though he could turn it around. For a while, I felt certain that I would accept Kenny’s potential sacking as the natural result of a poor season; then it happened and I honestly felt like I had lost a testicle. He felt that he could turn it around. Do you know who this is? This is Kenny Dalglish. If he felt that he still had more to give, then I have to believe that he did because the man has never – NEVER – let us down before. Never.

Sometimes I lean on history because it can be a guide, especially when you have been in a similar situation before. Look at the previous paragraph, which contains many of the concerns we all expressed throughout this maddening, frustrating campaign. Haven’t we been there before? Back in 2004/05, Liverpool lost 14 times in the League, gained 58 points, finished 37 points off the top (behind Everton) and saw their season defined by a couple of cup runs. This season, Liverpool lost 14 times in the league, gained 52 points, finished 37 points off the top (behind Everton) and saw their season defined by a couple of cup runs. And many of the same questions are being asked. Financially, we couldn’t compete with Chelsea or Manchester United then, now it’s Manchester City. Our squad was short on quality and a long way from being capable of challenging for the League title then, something which is also the case now. Many saw our performances in the League then (e.g. 5 wins away from home all season) as proof that Rafael Benitez wasn’t the man for the job. While the rub you get from a European Cup victory obviously far outweighs that of its Carling Cup counterpart, Rafa was given time, and what happened? He oversaw a jump to 3rd and 82 points the following season. A few years later, we were emptying Old Trafford with 10 minutes to go...

It wasn’t to be with Kenny, we just need to accept that, but the uncertainty and distrust that this decision has generated should not be underestimated as it has the potential to affect the club for some time. Ian Ayre has said that “you don't get to where John's got to and where Tom’s got to in their careers without taking the best possible advice for big and important decisions…taking the best possible advice from those qualified to give it to find the best result.” At this point, I’m not sure that I know what this club actually is anymore, but I will ask two questions: firstly, who exactly represents “the best possible advice”? The same person or people who advised FSG to hire the now-departed Damien Comolli or suggested that they give Kenny Dalglish a 3-year contract only for them to sack him a year later? Or someone else whose advice is presumably better? And secondly, why do I keep thinking about what Wigan chairman Dave Whelan said recently, that “there’s no heart at the club. It’s a bit disturbing when you think a club like Liverpool is functioning without a heart. I mentioned that to Roberto and I think there’s no heart beating at Liverpool. I think the sooner they get a heart the better”? Why do I keep getting the unsettling, nauseating feeling that he’s absolutely right?

Perhaps it’s because, for the second time in three years, this club has willingly ripped its heart out of its chest, first with Rafa and now with Kenny. I honestly don’t know where we go from here, but for now all I can say to the man is thanks. At the very least, these past 18 months have been a blessing to me because they reminded me of how special Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish truly is. I was 11 when he resigned in 1991. I had no real idea of what he meant. He was the manager of the football club, that’s all. I was probably disappointed, but not nearly as gutted as I was when Peter Beardsley was sold to Everton a short time later or when John Aldridge had left for Spain in 1989. When you’re a kid, your heroes are players and Kenny was before my time on that score. Over the intervening years I’ve learned, but I had never felt it first-hand. Well now I have. As I’ve gotten older, I haven’t really had heroes anymore. Heroes are for children, aren’t they? Well, Kenny…he’s about as close as it gets. He once said that the club is “more important and bigger than any individual, no matter who has been through it previously and who will in the future. The club is the club. I will never forget that and anyone who does is being a wee bit stupid and irresponsible.”

Then, for the time being, consider me a wee bit stupid and irresponsible.
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2012, 12:25:41 am »
beautiful lament to something that is slipping away, or probably already has.
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2012, 12:58:07 am »
stunning bit of writing, and the parallels to 04/05 were not really something i'd considered in such detail before.

i'm with stupid (and irresponsible).
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2012, 01:02:58 am »
Superb mate. Sums up exactly how I feel. I'll join you in being a wee bit stupid and irresponsible if you don't mind...
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2012, 01:03:29 am »
Stunning OP.
Again, can't do much more than say thanks E2K.
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2012, 01:08:23 am »
Absolutely boss OP, the parallels between 2004/05 and this season are terribly spooky. And I believe we could have had the same sort of points jump under Kenny next season. Maybe, just maybe if we had been in Europe even if it was in the Europa League this season and we'd played like we had in the other cups, maybe he'd still be here.

For now though we can only dream of what could have been, whilst our heartless club moves closer to the abyss.

I'll happily be forever stupid and irresponsible, if it keeps me from being heartless.
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2012, 01:18:48 am »
Brilliant

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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2012, 01:27:22 am »
:wellin  absolutely fantastic!

I apologise for quoting a couple of my own posts from the midweek Fulham match before the FA Cup final, but now it seems they were eerily prescient of me and it reminded me of some of the things you've said here.


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I'm not getting into any arguments of fan v supporter or any of that nonsense. You do what you want and so will I. The plain and simple fact to me is that too many people are saying "we've been shite in the league this season" when what they should be saying is "we've had some shite results in the league this season." We have fucking battered teams mercilessly and still lost. Abject performances though, you can count on not much more than one hand, especially if you’re Anne Boleyn. Spurs away, Norwich at home, Swansea at home, Newcastle away, Bolton away, Wigan at home, tonight are all games we probably got what we deserved - fuck all. And yet there are probably close to double or treble that at least where we played teams off the park and either lost or drew. You can say all you want that the league never lies and you are where you deserve to be after 38 games. But that's not true. Do you honestly believe we didn't deserve to win the league in 2009? We were head and shoulders better than United all season long, yet they finished top by four points and looked absolutely shite in most matches. This season, without posts and crossbars, without a few key injuries, with some luck, and without a media fucking witch hunt and disgraceful treatment of one of our players by the FA, we would have easily finished in the top four. But we haven't, even though they all played a factor to some extent.


As for the Kenny's past it, doesn't know what he's doing, he's no better than owl face brigade, then you're wrong. Plain and fucking simple. The man knows more about how to put a team together than most of you know about how to put a fucking four piece jigsaw together. For all you shout and scream, if we'd won our last three matches of the season, we'd have finished with pretty much the same overall statistics as Rafa's first season. Even winning the last two would only have us three points behind that season. That “fat fucking Spanish waiter” as some of the media darlings and even some of our own fans called him spent over £30 million net in his first season to get us lower down the league than the season before with fewer points and goals. Who would have wanted him gone that first season though eh, honestly? If you said you would have having just won Ol' Big Ears you're either fucking insane or an imposter. It was his second season where his astute signings started to pay dividends. Fast forward to this season. Roughly a £30 odd million net spend, one cup in the bag, one final to come and not the greatest league season with the bitters probably finishing just above us.


Sound familiar? It is, and the reason it is, is because getting your own team assembled and playing to your style and tactics takes some time. Very fucking simple really if you stop to think about it. I have read people moaning and pissing in the wind about the halcyon days of 2009 when we finished 2nd, and how far away we are from there. Well fucking get over it! It took Rafa FIVE FUCKING SEASONS to get us to that point but most of you wouldn't give Kenny five fucking minutes. Do you forget that we wouldn't have been in the Champions League in Rafa's 2nd season without UEFA bending the rules slightly because they didn't want a trophy without the defending champions able to defend it? Kenny is almost at the exact same stage in his rebuilding process, no matter how far you think he is away from it. Next season will be much better than this. The season after, even better. But to do that, you've got to get the time to build a team and squad, and let it mature nicely. Fine wines age nicely if you let them; bottles of sparkling piss off the top shelf of Bargain Booze get knocked out faster than me watching a Kylie Minogue video. So what do you want, the fine matured wine or the bottle of cheap shite that gives a quick fizz and pop and then quickly goes flatter than a Manc crowd when they're getting beat 4 -1 at home?


And as for the first team squad, of course there are some deficiencies that need addressing and we'll certainly need some more quality in depth. But make no mistake, some of them will have learnt from their experiences this season, and the ones who haven't or will accept mediocrity will be fucked off sharpish. Kenny is one ruthless mother fucker when he wants to be, and when he sits and analyses this season, he'll know what needs to be done. He'll bin some players, bench others and get a couple of new faces in who will take us one step closer. And if you don't trust him then that's your prerogative. Because if you favour instant results, a 4th place finish and buying a few flavour of the month show ponies because they only want to play for a team in the Champions League, that's when we will be in trouble. "Oh well the Yanks won't accept it!" Oh get ter fuck with bollocks like that. Who gives a fuck what the owners really think? It's just trying to use some sort of higher power argument for your thinly veiled insults and impatience.


My point is Rome wasn't built in a day, even if it only took us a few hours to conquer it twice. For fucks sake, the man has devoted his life to us and he needs time in return. Nobody but nobody deserves it more. Because if The King doesn't get it, there is now way on this earth that you would give it to the likes of Klopp, Bielsa or Villas Boas. This is not the time to start all this panicking that Kenny's vision and players are not working out as he hoped. You all think you know how much time he should be given? I'll tell you something, you don't know it nearly as much as Kenny himself does. Do you think a man who loves us as much as he loves his wife, who has given his heart and soul to our club, who has put us first at every stage of his career with us, wouldn't acknowledge if he wasn't up for the job of leading us on to glory for whatever reason? Well quite simply, you're fucking wrong and anyone who was around the first time will know that. Because if we don't give Kenny the patience and time he asks for and deserves, we'll end up as just another run of the mill club. And that to me is worse than finishing fucking 17th in the league, knowing that we're not really any better than no marks and skid marks like Wolves, Sunderland and Chelsea.


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Well in 2010-2011 we finished 6th on 58 points and this season we could finish 7th on 55 points so is there really that marked a difference? And exactly how is it unflattering? This season we were not in the Champions League, so it's a tad unfair to use it as a measure on which to judge Dalglish is it? League points total and position not too dissimilar, so let's use the other cup competitions that we were entered for to make a comparison; Carling Cup - 2005 lost in final, 2012 won outright. FA Cup 2005 - knocked out in thrid round by Burnley, 2012 final on Saturday. Do you not forget the abuse Rafa got in the press for not respecting the traditions and history of the FA Cup, and do you not recall some of our fan base even then calling for his head and questioning Rafa's tactical acumen for getting outwitted by Steve fucking Cotterill? Maybe you don't but I certainly do.


This is the biggest gripe of mine - well I don't know what his vision is. Well his vision is to create a team capable of winning the league which won't happen overnight. Seeds are being sown and as you point out, not all of them will blossom, but is one season of nurturing really enough to expect to win the Chelsea Flower Show? He makes too many decisions that lead to losses is wonderful in hindsight but which ones are you talking about exactly? Maybe the decision to batter West Brom for 90 minutes only to lose to a flukey goal carved from the mistake of one of our most dependable players. Ditto Stoke away. Maybe the decision to get two players sent off against Spurs leading to a drubbing. Maybe the decision to hit the fucking woodwork 30 odd times in a season, a statistic that just doesn't bear thinking about. Maybe the decision for certain players not to turn up and even put in a half-arsed effort like at Bolton or Newcastle?
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2012, 01:31:44 am »
Great OP.
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2012, 01:32:16 am »
Thank you, brilliantly written.
I do remember being sat in Off The Pitch four years ago being told I was doom-mongering about Hicks and Gillett. It's made me cautious: some of you sound positively Candide-esque in your refusal to keep a watching brief.

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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2012, 01:33:24 am »
It's a brilliant piece of writing E2k. Articulates so much that we all feel.

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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2012, 01:46:28 am »
thinking about it, the words "a wee bit stupid and irresponsible" actually sum up the last week quite beautifully.
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2012, 01:50:32 am »
Stunning OP.
Again, can't do much more than say thanks E2K.
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Superb post E2K, and I agree with Regi, you do speak for a generation.
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2012, 03:22:03 am »
Thanks for writing that, very very well articulated

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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2012, 03:48:52 am »
Through all the shite this last week some cracking posts have emerged.

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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2012, 03:53:28 am »
Loved it.

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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2012, 04:15:25 am »
Excellent bit of writing. Thanks for that mate.

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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2012, 06:41:13 am »
That's a cracker of a post E2K.  Thanks

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Re: “The Road of Good Intentions Has Gone Dry as a Bone”*
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2012, 06:48:30 am »
Thanks for that, really great read.
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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2012, 06:49:31 am »
It's one of the best things I've read on here for months.

It should be compulsory reading.
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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2012, 07:26:57 am »
Wow. That has left me emotional which doesn't happen often (or enough) now. Unfortunately I haven't your talents for ordering and recordings thoughts to tell you how good that is. Thanks for writing it, it is superb.

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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2012, 07:30:44 am »
Best post i think ive ever read.....and im laying here with a tear rolling down my cheek....... As that captures everything ive been feeling and also everything which is making me fall out of loge with football.

Im 45..... I remember Kenny....him playing.... Took a girlfriend to his last game.... Only to leave her at the back of the Kop because she panicked while in the middle.

Kenny is as big as Liverpool....he is Liverpool.... And now all the Yanks have left is a trademarked name and badge.... A product which does Not bare any ressemblance to the Club I started supporting 40 years ago!!!!!


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Re: “The Road of Good Intentions Has Gone Dry as a Bone”*
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2012, 07:40:17 am »
Excellent post mate thanks for that! I'm not sure what could or would have happened, or will happen however unfortunately the game is how it is today and we need to play the game and get back to the top as soon as we can. Money money money!!

We were close to administration not too long ago, so at least we still have a club. Contrary to what DW said, I say we do have a heart and that is the fans. Maybe we lost our soul this week however...

I just hope FSG do the right thing to try and get that soul back, by whatever means that may be so we can close this chapter and drive on to the place that we need to be - back at the top of the game. Time will tell.

Anyway nuff waffling, great post, great read. Thanks. Onwards and upwards. YNWA
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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2012, 07:59:53 am »
You should be proud of that piece mate.  :champ

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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2012, 08:03:31 am »
brilliant.
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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2012, 08:09:54 am »
It's one of the best things I've read on here for months.

It should be compulsory reading.

I honestly don't think I've ever read anything better on here Mal.

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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2012, 08:10:10 am »
Great read E2K, thanks.
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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2012, 08:12:51 am »
Brilliant OP mate.
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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2012, 08:23:40 am »
Stunning stuff E2K. Right off the meat of the bat that one. As I said in the secret cave, you're definitely on to something when you talk about FSG trying to build a Liverpool FC 2.0. How do you marry tradition, history and community, holy trinities, loyalty and integrity, with modern football? Can it even be done? It often felt like Rafa was trying to drag us kicking and screaming into the present, while all we gave him nailed his feet to the floor. Going back to Kenny as manager, necessary as it was thanks to fucking Purslow, was the swansong. It was wax-faced Elvis bellowing Unchained Melody into a microphone in his last gig, suddenly rediscovering his old mojo for a few fleeting seconds. Which is why its end hurts so much. Curtain. Darkness. The KIng has left the building ne he isn't coming back. It's all changed and it's up for grabs now. Presumably next we see FSG trying to make LFC fit for purpose for modern football, as they see it, and it might not be pretty, and those who remembered the days when they only filmed the legend from the waist up might want to adjust their sets or switch them off.
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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2012, 08:36:45 am »
I almost never post. But had to come out of hiding after I read that. A paean to a dying past and a better way. I'm heartbroken, but I'm not alone. Thank you.

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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2012, 08:36:56 am »
Great read, nice one
"Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes,
of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass.
It is terribly simple."

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« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2012, 08:44:01 am »
Superb OP, you can call me stupid and irresponsible  :'(
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« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2012, 08:45:31 am »
excellent read, thanks for sharing what i believe is to be nearly every supporters feelings articulated very well.

to those that never witnessed the success with kenny 1st time round i hope grabbed a glimpse of exactly what it is to be a liverpool manager. he sometimes got things wrong but it was awesome for him to be at the helm. felt like our club was back and meaning business. now it feels sterile and empty again :(
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« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2012, 08:55:38 am »
I can only stand and applaude mate. Fantastic, moving stuff! Thank you!
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« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2012, 08:57:11 am »
We'll see if there is any heart left in LFC.
It does simply feel wrong, this place we're in right now.
That feeling of turning a corner and knowing in your bones that you've made a mistake.

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« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2012, 08:59:23 am »
Fantastic piece of writing E2K. Fantastic.

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« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2012, 09:03:57 am »
Superb bit of writing mate. Sums up perfectly the crazy way football is going, a game without a soul, one day football will rue this, when the money finally runs out.
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« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2012, 09:04:12 am »
Brilliant that.

I think it's football as a whole that's had it's heart ripped out somewhere along the line and in turn the club itself.

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« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2012, 09:07:42 am »
 And a wee bit eloquent, thank you E2K, a brilliant read

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« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2012, 09:09:29 am »
I'd like to still be supporting the club I was brought up to support, Liverpool FC definitely doesn't feel like that club anymore.
"Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes,
of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass.
It is terribly simple."