Topic: Who do you want as Liverpool's next manager?

[Barneylfc]

One more added for Rafa there. can we get this send to FSG?

[Barneylfc]

Slaven Bilic, mainly because he looks like he'dkick the shite outta the team if they got beat by wigan at home! pity hes at Locomotive Moscow

Forgot about him. What's he up to now?

Did you just read Slaven Bilic then stop reading?

[redoneusa]

Amazes me that people don't learn. Does anyone - anyone at all remember how the last flavour of the month worked out?

[Kashinoda]

If FSG have half a brain and are concerned about qualifying for the Champions League every year then they would be insane not to interview Rafa.

Apart from his final season he did it time and time again, all while spending £16million a season... the club was generating more profit then that annually (loan payments aside). But they wont, they have Ayre and other idiots in their ears no doubt. It's fucking ridiculous that he's simply the best candidate available and won't even get a look in.

 

[tubby]

I honestly don't know.  I'll back whoever gets the job, though, and give them every chance.

But I can't say there's anyone out there who I would fight for as our manager.

[Y2J]

It really is sad that Stan Fucking Collymore has more footballing knowledge than our owners.

[Noelle]

Other10 (1.6%)

Who?

I voted for Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas but noted ideally I would want Laurent Blanc. So yea.

[Y2J]

Other10 (1.6%)

Who?

Blanc, Pelligrini, Schuster, Emery.

[Noelle]

Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas seems like a long shot as there are rumours that he's taking over roma.

They said that last summer too and look what happened there

[Anywhichwayucan]

Other10 (1.6%)

Who?

Diego Simeone.

[Scaryscouse]

Rafa 100%.

[Matt8Pie]

Rafa
Rafael
Rafa
Rafael
Rafa
Rafael
Rafael Benitez

[Y2J]

Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas seems like a long shot as there are rumours that he's taking over roma.

Their first choice now it seems is shifted towards Montella.

[Reds and Revs]

Too early for De Boer, but Ajax play football, and rely on a strong youth system.

Wouldn't be bad if that helps us with Eriksen, Elm and Fischer.

[DRice]

If FSG have half a brain and are concerned about qualifying for the Champions League every year then they would be insane not to interview Rafa.

Apart from his final season he did it time and time again, all while spending £16million a season... the club was generating more profit then that annually (loan payments aside). But they wont, they have Ayre and other idiots in their ears no doubt. It's fucking ridiculous that he's simply the best candidate available and won't even get a look in.

 

he only failed in 2010 cause he had £0 money to spend

[Gainsbarre]

Rafael Benitez...

Some may say it's the past.. but a man at 52, who knows the values at the club and managed 4 euros semis in 5 years (3 in the CL, and 2 finals) on restricted budget is what football genius is... That's the same man who brought here Segura, Borrell, McParland and even the King himself, the same who have the records for most points in the league, the same who stood to Ferguson, who cared for the club before caring for himself... I dont want your Klopp, Deshamps nor Cappellos...I want the man I still trust and believe is made for that club to be back home... Rafa Benitez!

[RayPhilAlan]

1.4% of the vote to Roberto Martinez, the front runner.

Dark days if he is indeed the owners' first choice

He's the "front runner" because Dave Whelan has mouthed off to the press, so he's the one name they're sure has been considered. Nothing more.

[_Lfc_]

Rafa. Hes proved what he can do with limited funds,he has to get it , he has unfinished business here.

[Juan Loco]

Pep, but we're not going to get him so I voted 'other'

Louis Van Gaal.

Toss that hand grenade in there.

[Jambo Power]

Villas Boas. Why? Because he has a fluffy beard.

[aggerdoo]

please if there is a god don't let fsg think it'd be a mistake to take rafa back after whats happened with kenny. i have more faith in rafa than any man alive to get us back challenging in the league and in europe. if he gets an interview he's got the job and i'd cry my eyes out to stand side by side with him again

[muyuu]

Rafa is the right man for the job.

Fact.

[Ken-Obi]

Imagine seeing this at Anfield again next season.

[_Lfc_]

This is a post from BHB a few years ago regarding rafas transfer dealings ... unbelievable really.

2004/05
 
£2m - Josemi: peanuts and was moved on in a swap for Kromkamp 18 months later
£1.5m - Antonio Nunez: part of the Michael Owen deal and filled a gap for a while. Peanuts.
£10.7m - Xabi Alonso: Massive success and sold for £30m+ in the summer when he wanted to leave
£6m - Luis Garcia: Massive success and sold to Atlético Madrid for £4m
Free - Pelligrino: Stop gap that allowed us to rest Sami for league games, benefitting us massively in Istanbul. Now on the coaching staff.
£6.3m - Fernando Morientes: Pretty much everyone made up when we signed him, top class, but never settled. Sold for £3m to Valencia.
£1m - Scott Carson: One the most highly rated young keepers around. Lost out through injury and signing of Reina when Dudek left the club. Sold for £3.25m.
 
Total bought: £27.5m
 
Free - Marcus Babbel: Released to Stuttgart at the end of his career.
£2.5m - Danny Murphy: Xabi Alonso signed to fill the role Murphy had in the side
£8.5m - Michael Owen: Wouldn't sign a new contract and sold before he left on a free. He's done nothing since that is a masterstroke with hindsight.
Free - Stephane Henchoz: Released to Celtic at the end of his career
 
Total sold: £11m

2004/05 net spend: £16.5m

2005/06
 
£240,000 - Antonio Barragan: Kid for the future. Sold for £675,000 to Deportivo a year later.
Free - Boudewijn Zenden: Signed for nothing and released for nothing. Did a job for us.
£6m - Pepe Reina: In the top 3 or 4 keepers in the world now and still young. One of Rafa's best signings.
£5.6m - Momo Sissoko: Brilliant for a few years, had that eye injury and sold to Juventus when his form dipped for £8.2m. Replaced by Mascherano.
£7m - Peter Crouch: One signing I did question but proved to be a great bit of business. Turned him from a laughing stock into an international. Sold for £11m.
Unkown - Miki Roque: Kid bought for peanuts. Sold again for an unknown amount.
£150,000 - Jack Hobbs: Highly rated 16yr old signed from Lincoln. Didn't progress as hoped and sold to Leicester for a reported £1.5m, although figure not confirmed.
£190,000 Besian Idrizaj: No idea who he is
£1.5m - Mark Gonzales: Cheap player to provide back up for the left wing. Sold for £3.5m to Real Betis.
Exchange - Paul Anderson: Swapped for John Welsh. Sold for £250,000.
Exchange - Jan Kromkamp: Swapped for Josemi. Later sold for £1.75m
£5.8m - Daniel Agger: Blighted by injuries but potentially top class and great signing for the money.
£250,000 - David Martin: Young reserve keeper
Free - Robbie Fowler: Pay as you play deal and no risk involved. Scored a few goals. Released in the summer.
 
Total bought: £26.73
 
Free - Vladimir Smicer: Out of contract and released. Played a small part in Istanbul.
£3.5m - El Hadji Diouf: The best £3.5m Rafa has ever recieved.
Free - Pellegrino: Filled the gap in the last 5 months of the previous season, not good enough and released.
£2m - Alou Diarra: Sold for £2m. One of Houllier's buys.
£2m - Antonio Nunez: Bought for £1.5m and now sold for £2m when didn't work out.
£6.5m - Milan Baros: A Houllier signing sold at a profit. He's done nothing since.
Exchange - John Welsh: Swapped for Paul Anderson
Exchange - Josemi: Swapped for Kronkamp.
 
Total sold: £14m
 
2005/06 net spend: £12.73m
2006/07
 
£6m - Craig Bellamy: Good signing and later sold for £7.5m to fund Torres deal.
£2m - Gabriel Palletta: Played a few league cup games, not good enough and sold for £1.2m
Free - Fabio Aurelio: Very injury prone but a good player when fit. Great signing for nothing.
£6.7m - Jermaine Pennant: Second choice after missing out on Alves. Ran his contract down and released. Attitude stank.
£9m - Dirk Kuyt: Has his critics, but has been brilliant for the money. 15 goals last season from wide and vital to the way we play. Ultimate pro. Great signing.
£200,000 - Nabil El Zhar: Few cameos last season and improving. Injured now. Promising still. Peanuts.
£750,000 - Astrit Ajdarevic: No idea who he is, and released on a free to Leicester.
Loan - Daniele Padelli: Reserve keeper, made one appearance and never seen again.
Undisclosed - Jordy Brouwer: Young reserve.
£2.5m - Alvaro Arbeloa: Bargain signing, great service for a few years and sold for £3.5m when running his contract down.
Loan - Javier Mascherano: Rescued from West Ham, now one of the best defensive midfielders in the world and will probably be sold to Barca this summer for a massive profit. Paid £18.6m for him a year later at end of loan deal.
 
Total bought: £27.15m
 
£200,000 - Zak Whitbread: Youngster
Undisclosed - Bruno Cheyrou: Houllier flopped, sold for a reported £1.5m.
£3m - Fernando Morientes: Didn't work out. Cut his losses.
Free - Didi Hamann: Great servant, released at the end of his career
£675,000 - Antonio Barragan: Paid £240,000 for him.
£2m - Djimi Traore: Houllier signing and daylight robbery getting £2m for him
£500,000 - Neil Mellor: Signed as a kid and did a job for a while. Not good enough and released.
£1.75m - Jan Kromkamp: Nunez bought for £2m, swapped for him, who then sold for £1.75m. Stop gaps at minimal expense.
£525,000 - Darren Potter: Acadamy lad, not good enough and robbery getting that much for him.
£1.5m - Steven Warnock: Probably sold to cheap and looks a mistake with hindsight. Good squad player.
Free - Salif Diao: The clearout of Houllier's flops continues.
 
Total sold: £10.15m
 
2006/07 net spend: £17m
 
2007/08
 
 
£5m - Lucas Leiva: Brazilian player of the year when signed. Could still go either way but a lot to prove.
Undisclosed - Krisztian Nemeth: Promising youngster currently out on loan in Athens.
£270,000 - Mikel San Jose Dominguez: Youngester plays in the reserves.
£1.8m - Sebastian Leto: Left winger signing but refused a work permit. Sold for £3m.
£20.2m - Fernando Torres: Bargain of the century
Free - Andriy Voronin: Free transfer to strengthen the squad. Plays well in Germany, garbage over here.
£5m - Yossi Benayoun: Took a while to settle but now a key player. Superb signing and an absolute bargain.
£11.5m - Ryan Babel: Highly rated dutch international. Absolute waste of space. Bad signing on reflection, but nobody knew how he'd turn out. Still got potential but he can't be arsed.
Undisclosed - Charles Itandje: Back up keeper signed for peanuts. Now released.
£1.3m - Emiliano Insua: Youngster who is now a full Argentinian international and massive potential. Bargain.
£6.5m - Martin Skrtel: Been off form this season so far, but brilliant last year and a good signing for the money.
£18.6m - Javier Mascherano: Completion of loan deal

Total bought: £70.7m

£2.7m – Florent Simana-Pongolle: Houllier youngster sold wanting first team football.
£100,000 – Daniel O’Donnell: Kid sold
Free – Jerzy Dudek: Released at end of contract
Free - Zenden: Released at end of contract
Free – Robbie Fowler: Released at end of contract
£4m – Luis Garcia: Wanted to return to Spain. Great service.
£6m – Djibril Cisse: Houllier signing sold to part fund Torres deal.
£7.5m – Craig Bellamy: Sold at profit to part fund Torres deal
£3.5m – Mark Gonzales: Signed for £1.5m and sold when didn’t work out.
£1.2m – Gabriel Palletta: Bought for £2m but never worked out. Young defender.
£3.5m – Chris Kirkland: Houllier signing. Injury prone and wanted first team football.
£8.2m – Momo Sissoko: Great signing, good service, sold when lost his form at a profit.

Total sold: £36.7m

2008/09

Free – Philip Degen: Garbage, but free.
£7m - Andrea Dossena: Italian international left back. Hasn’t settled. Bad signing.
£3.5m – Diego Cavalieri: Reserve keeper. Only played league cup games so far.
£1.5m – David N’gog: Young French striker. Promising.
£19m – Robbie Keane: Everyone made up when we signed him. Didn’t work out and sold back to Spurs for £16m.
£8m - Albert Riera: Spanish international. Started well but jury still out.

Total bought: £39m

£4m – John Arne Riise: Good servant but form tailed off. Snapped their hands off at £4m.
Free – Harry Kewell: Harry who?
Undisclosed – Anthony Le Tallec: Houllier youngster finally released. Fee not known.
£11m – Peter Crouch: Laughing stock bought for £7m. Great signing. Wanted first team football.
£2.25m – Danny Guthrie: Youngster from Acadamy thought not good enough.
£3.25m – Scott Carson: Injury prone and Reina now first choice. Sold at profit.
Undisclosed – Steve Finnan: Sold for a fee believed to be £1m
£16m – Robbie Keane: Didn’t work out.
Undisclosed – Jack Hobbs: Young defender that didn’t progress. Sold for believed to £1.5m.

Total sold: £36.5m

2008/09 net spend: £2.5m

2009/10

£17.5m – Glen Johnson: Big fee, but has been brilliant so far.
£17.1m - Alberto Aquilani: Injured so far but meant to be a class act. Highly rated in Italy.
£2m – Sotirios Kyrgiakos: Last minute signing to fill Hyypia’s shoes. Only money we had to spend.
£160,000 – Daniel Ayala: Young defender, played a few times this season and looked promising.

Total bought: £36.76m

£250,000 – Paul Anderson: Youngster that didn’t progess.
Free – Jermaine Pennant: Out of contract. Poor signing.
Free – Miki Roque: No idea who he is. Bought for peanuts.
£3m – Sebastian Leto: Signed for £1.8m but didn’t get a work permit. Had to sell.
£3.5m – Alvaro Arbeloa: Wanted to leave and out of contract in the summer.
£30m – Xabi Alonso: Wanted to leave. Bought for £10.7m. Great signing.

Total sold: £36.75m

2009/10 net spend: £10,000


Total Players Bought: £228,976,000
Total Players Sold: £145,100,000

Total Net Spend: £83,876,000

So, that’s a total spend of just over £83m in 5 years at the club. An average of £16.6m a year.

[Jonjo Legend]

Too early for De Boer, but Ajax play football, and rely on a strong youth system.

Wouldn't be bad if that helps us with Eriksen, Elm and Fischer.

Unfortunately you might be right about the too early thing, which is a shame because IMO De Boer is the best young coach around. You know he's got Bergkamp as his right-hand man at the moment as well...which means that if he came here Dirk could easily stay on and be player/assistant

[ziggyy]

Fat Sam please!!!
 
He'll make good use of Downing and Carroll....
 
Or Steve Bruce, we'll then be best friends forever with good old Rudolph....
 
 

[Gobias Industries]

I want Rafa more than anything. I've wanted him back since he left. When Kenny was given the job I was happy that we had a great man at the helm but I always knew that when Kenny left I wanted Rafa back. Well he left earlier than I expected (okay "left" isn't the right word, but that's for another thread) and now that the seat is empty I want Rafa back now.

If not him I would accept someone in the Van Gaal, Hiddink, Capello, Guardiola echelon.

Below them would be Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas, Klopp, Bielsa.

Everyone else further down.

[DanA]

he only failed in 2010 cause he had £0 money to spend

Worse, they shifted the goal posts at the last minute. So he was left with £0 to spend half way through a summer needing a CB, striker & LB.

[DeclanYNWA]

Van Gaal.

[saintslfc13]

Voted for Rafa, but I don't think it's likely he'll get the job

Top 3 for me: Rafa, Klopp, Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas in that order

Pep would be #2 but I don't think he's going to take a new a job, I think he sincerely wants that sabbatical

[Jambo Power]

Looking at that list, it's scary that Idrizaj died just 5 years later.

[Mistawoss]

Thank god im not the only 1. Been travelling so havent had much chance to get online, Martinez isnt at present an LFC manager.

Wigan are great towards the end of the season usually but he cant motivate his players for the first 20 games.
#

Rafa has unfinished business at LFC and I want him back, hes still there, on the Wirral waiting. I honestly fear for the future of the club if we appoint Martinez. Get in rafa give him the £40million we make this year in profits.

Get the club up for sale FSG, you havent a fucking clue what your at and arent fit to lace the kings boots.

[surfer]

It isn't often that the logical choice and the emotional one align, but this is one of those imo. As far as Rafa getting his ideal job back, this is that time; arguably now or never. If he's overlooked again, he should forget the club, move on with the drive to be the best fucking manager ever and prove it with his trophy haul. There's a feeling that he's been holding back, a bit in hope of the Liverpool job.. Here's the time of reckoning. If he's not chosen now, doubt he'll ever get a shot at it again.

There's only so much time worth waiting over an emotional tie in Rafa. The drive to improve should always override that in the end..

Logically, I've seen plenty of managers organise teams over the years. To me, Rafa is the best I've ever seen as an organiser. That kind of man will always deliver improvement, and with the right money, the title if you back him properly. If they're going to do that, and he has to assess FSG properly if they even consider him, then it's worth his time taking the job.

[Aaron Cross]

I voted for Klopp, FSG need to throw everything at this guy, hes what we need, but i would also take Rafa back in a heartbeat..

[Filter]

Too early for De Boer, but Ajax play football, and rely on a strong youth system.

Wouldn't be bad if that helps us with Eriksen, Elm and Fischer.

Wouldn't be interested in coming to us anyway. Wants to stay with Ajax for many years to come.

[Malaysian Kopite]

Rafa
Rafael
Rafa
Rafael
Rafa
Rafael
Rafael Benitez

[WaterfordRed]

Rafa- Please come home.

[Kennys Jacket]

So 10 people have voted for Martinez and 8 for Rogers??

Do those 18 people not remember what happened in between Rafa and Kenny?

Do the Official supporters group or SOS have access to FSG.   Is there any way we can let them now that a CV of "not getting relegated" is not what this club needs.
Im suprised we dont interview Paul Jewell. Hes kept Wigan in the Perm once

 

[DyingAtheist]

So 10 people have voted for Martinez and 8 for Rogers??

Do those 18 people not remember what happened in between Rafa and Kenny?

Do the Official supporters group or SOS have access to FSG.   Is there any way we can let them now that a CV of "not getting relegated" is not what this club needs.
Im suprised we dont interview Paul Jewell. Hes kept Wigan in the Perm once

 

Both Martinez and Rodgers have their teams playing substantially better football than anything Hodgson ever made for Fulham.
That's why people aren't QUITE as distressed over the idea of them joining us.

I really wish people would drop the Hodgson comparisons, one poor mid-league manager does not a summer make.

[Mizerooskie]

Klopp for me. He's a young, brilliant manager that will bring a fresh outlook to the club.  As an added bonus, his link to Dortmund could be advantageous in the transfer market--they've got at least half a dozen players that would be excellent additions.