Topic: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...

[DonkeyWan]

Sooo, they get rid of KD (8th + silverware) for a man who barely avoided relegation and lost 8 games in a row.... that they would even consider interviewing him is beyond the pale. Lernernomics.

[Butter Keks]

Anyone who wants Martinez in knows absolutely fuck all about our club as far as Im concerned.

Ridiculous these type of posts, Sick to death of people playing the super fan card. Give it a rest.

[hugoboss]

You mean,someone else for manager?

It's gonna DoF and head coach

[Renato]

yes but at the time both of them fellas were out of work, this is different, get used to the fact we are getting martinez, we wouldnt be interviewing other clubs managers  willynilly.

Why not?

[dast18]

duncan jenkins ‏@duncanjenkinsFC
do not panic #lfc fans, F.S.G will interview more managers. i have heard who the new D.O.F is, trying to get it confirmed by my mole.

the news is not from my usual source but if it is who i have been told it is then #lfc fans should be very happy.

[Antics]

Even Roy had a modicum of support at the beginning. Martinez is unanimously disapproved
of.

[PowderKeg]

Anyone who wants Martinez in knows absolutely fuck all about our club as far as Im concerned.

What exactly is there to know that rules him out?

I'm not being facetious but how much do you honestly know about Martinez or what he can achieve at the club?

What if he does what Rafa did at Valencia?

[Brentie]

Why?

It's a risk sure, but he might be a massive success.....it's not like hodgson who you knew wouldn't work....

We just wouldn't know with Martinez

This is the most high pressured job in football.

The manager’s job at Anfield is the toughest job in worldfootball. You’re expected to bring success to the club because of it’s worldwide fanbase and history- even though you don’t have the tools to compete with your rivals. You’re expected win trophies and challenge for top 4 and then the league with a lesser budget and a smaller stadium than most of the teams you’re competing with. It’s a job where the immense scrutiny and expectations put untold pressure on the manager.

Kenny has aged 10 years in a season. He left the job in the first place in 1991 because he had a nervous breakdown. Sounesshad open heart surgery. Rafa kidney stones and gained 30kg. Houllier had aheart attack. Hodgson would have turned into a zombie had he stayed muchlonger. This is the hardest job in football.

Someone like Martinez- who’s used to 17th being a success and is astounded if his club get 20,000 supporters through the gates- will be eaten alive.Whoever replaces the King needs to have shoulders as wide as the River Merseyand the experience of handling immense pressure.

[Juan Loco]

Defence for Martinez.

Is this how Dortmund and Juve fans reacted when they got Klopp and Conte? Look what has happened there , you just never know in football.

I don't actually rate Martinez, but this is true to an extent. But also look at everyone's first choice - Rafa - and his pre-Valencia record. He got the Valencia job on the basis of promotions.

Frank Rijkaard's only club management experience before getting the Barcelona job was managing Sparta fuckin' Rotterdam.

I can see clear as day the thinking behind a Martinez - or personal preference - a Rodgers.

IF YOU'VE GOT A WORLD CLASS DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL ALREADY IN SITU

[cornelius]

Seen it mentioned a few times so thought I may as well nip it in the bud..

Klopp signed a deal to keep him at BVB till 2016 only weeks/months ago. He won't be leaving Dortmund for anyone.

You don't know what clauses were put into that contract though do you?

[Resurrected]

I can imagine international footballers;

'yeah, i really want to come to LFC and play for Martinez. With a wealth of experience gained in playing division 3 football with Wigan and Swansea, i'm sure he can take my game to a new level.'

[TheRussianBiscuit]

Sooo, they get rid of KD (8th + silverware) for a man who barely avoided relegation and lost 8 games in a row.... that they would even consider interviewing him is beyond the pale. Lernernomics.

Plus KD had 120million to spend stop the ridiculous comparison.

[Tepid water]

Are you willing to bet the next 3 years of the club's future on the possibility that he will turn out to be another Benitez? Or would it better to get the real Benitez who is already proven to have what it takes?

I can only be honest and say I have absolutely no idea how he would do here.....

I would love Benitez back I reckon, but I'm convinced one should never return so he's out for me

[subroc]

Sooo, they get rid of KD (8th + silverware) for a man who barely avoided relegation and lost 8 games in a row.... that they would even consider interviewing him is beyond the pale. Lernernomics.

He has not won a single thing as a manager and his only qualification seems to be that he is a relatively young manager who won't cost much nor ask for a lot of money either.

[21stCenturySchizoidMan]

Rodgers and Martinez being interviewed.

Goodbye mid-table mediocrity.

Hello again, mid-table mediocrity!

Will Obama get reelected? Will Bayern win their 5th CL on Saturday?

[Andy82lfc]

Honestly how the fuck can anyone know that?

No-one can know that, but why should we be guinea pigs on the slight slight chance he propels us into CL and wins the title... But on the more realistic chance he will do fuck all. Great man and a good manager proven so far in relegation battles and promoting lower league teams.

Call me greedy but I want more than that in a potential LFC manager.

[Mr Rossi]

I'd give him a chance, but I see no logical reason why you'd pick him over the likes of Rafa and Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas.

I didn't say I would did I? Rafa would be my first choice all day long.

[Crixus]

I'm struggling to see how Martinez has gained such popularity; catapulting him into contention for a job at Liverpool. Survived relegatoin and had a very dull playing and managerial career imo. No pedigree whatsoever.

[lfcmaster]

Wouldn't surprise me. Probably announce manager and DoF at same time

i think it would be a good idea to announce both at same time
shows owners have been planning for future since dc was fired

intesesting that clarke still at club aswell

[Renato]

First positive thing I've seen in about 3 days or so

[TALBERT]

Has anyone like Benitez, Klopp or Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas been reported for interview yet?

[snowlion]

All of this talk sounds  similar to two years ago with Hodgson.

We better not be singing his name around the Kop.

[JackWard33]

Plus KD had 120million to spend stop the ridiculous comparison.

typo in your post mate - there's a 1 in front of the 20 you didnt mean to be there

[killer_heels]

The problem with someone like Martinez, away from ability (which is still in question) is that does he have the authority or personality to really go toe to toe with the likes of Ferguson, Wenger and co?

[Trada]

what he is, is a manager with the second lowest net spend per point over the last three years. I hope to fuck they're not going off something so incredibly stupid.

Isn't that moneyball.

If they want a manager who buys players cheap and sells most of them on at a profit Rafa is their man.

[cox3100]

This is the most high pressured job in football.

supposedly made easier by the most knowledgable and patient fans in world football

[iRed]

We need a strong manager.  Someone who can deal with the older players in the first team and make sure whatever subterfuge is attempted will be squashed quickly.  That's my biggest fear, really.  Carra and Gerrard need to be phased out.  The former more immediately, while the latter needs to be reined in and given a specific role to play.  If we're trying to build something here, and truly taking the long-view, then we best make sure there are no obstacles in the beginning stages of whatever our plan may be.

I trust that FSG will find someone tactically astute.  That's not a concern.  However, we really do need a bastard of a man to come in here and make sure certain players don't derail things, whilst getting us to play good football with players in defined roles.

I'm not sure if that man is Roberto Martinez.  He has the tactical part of the equation seemingly in his favor.  The rest is what concerns me.  Is he too nice?  Will he be in awe of his surroundings and too accommodating?  If he can show he has a strong vision to take us forward and is capable of disciplined man management, the sort we so desperately need, then I'll have him here. 

Top-flight managerial experience isn't necessary for me.  Plenty of the best managers in the world came from seemingly nowhere.

[Adeemo]

Has anyone like Benitez, Klopp or Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas been reported for interview yet?

Nope.

[QC]

Defence for Martinez any unproven manager.

Is this how Dortmund and Juve fans reacted when they got Klopp and Conte? Look what has happened there , you just never know in football.

Fixed.

[lfcmaster]

I'm struggling to see how Martinez has gained such popularity; catapulting him into contention for a job at Liverpool. Survived relegatoin and had a very dull playing and managerial career imo. No pedigree whatsoever.

how much have wolves spent compared to wigan on transfers ?

[walshys_mullet]

Calm down man. Really sick of this over-reaction.

Rossi, let me ask you. Is hodgson a good manager? Is Steve Coppell? Phil brown? Sam allardyce?

all these managers at one time were flavour of the month, at one time had one outstanding one off season. All are not required standard.

I couldn't give a toss that Rogers had an ok season, or that Martinez pulled his garbage side out of relegation. They are not pre requisites for a club of our history and stature.

As I said employ anyone other than someone worthy of the sacking of a legend and im done with this supposed Liverpool football club. Smith would shudder.

[21stCenturySchizoidMan]

Or anyone else other the Rafa....

Made this point in the other thread. No one else will do for many. I pity the man who will have to face the music.

[Pip]

The last few pages of this thread. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. What a gang of whoppers you are.

Martinez is not my first choice but fucking hell you'd think they'd invited Stan Ternant for an interview

I'd quote all the embarrassing posts but it would crash the fucking place.

[Alan_X]

thought he was at utd??

From Wigan...

[Tarantino Red]

Instead of taking a massive risk on someone who could be a 'Rafa', why not appoint the fucking man himself!

That is all.

[TheRussianBiscuit]

typo in your post mate - there's a 1 in front of the 20 you didnt mean to be there

Even if that where true which its not. its more than martinez alot more.

[Tepid water]

This is the most high pressured job in football.

The manager’s job at Anfield is the toughest job in worldfootball. You’re expected to bring success to the club because of it’s worldwide fanbase and history- even though you don’t have the tools to compete with your rivals. You’re expected win trophies and challenge for top 4 and then the league with a lesser budget and a smaller stadium than most of the teams you’re competing with. It’s a job where the immense scrutiny and expectations put untold pressure on the manager.

Kenny has aged 10 years in a season. He left the job in the first place in 1991 because he had a nervous breakdown. Sounesshad open heart surgery. Rafa kidney stones and gained 30kg. Houllier had aheart attack. Hodgson would have turned into a zombie had he stayed muchlonger. This is the hardest job in football.

Someone like Martinez- who’s used to 17th being a success and is astounded if his club get 20,000 supporters through the gates- will be eaten alive.Whoever replaces the King needs to have shoulders as wide as the River Merseyand the experience of handling immense pressure.

You make some fair points, but I think you assume he can't do it rather than wondering how well he could do it.

All great managers have to step up at some point....maybe Martinez is someone who will do that?

[shelovesyou]

The only reason we know about Martinez is motor mouth dave whelan.
Otherwise wed be none the wiser would we.

Lets see what happens.

[Fordy]

Don't understand why you posted that.. Tells us nothing!

[hugoboss]

Rodgers and Martinez being interviewed.

Goodbye mid-table mediocrity.

Hello again, mid-table mediocrity!

That mad be laugh really hard