Author Topic: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck... (Read 202340 times)

Camarero25 · « **Reply #5720 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:55:35 PM »

Quote from: Nick110581 on May 17, 2012, 05:50:50 PM

Why should it though? Serious question.

No one knows if he is good enough or not.

Sacking Kenny Dalglish and replacing him with Brendan Rodgers will not go down well. Whether it should or not, I don't know. I'd like us to stay away from any "mid-table" managers to be honest.

Regi · « **Reply #5721 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:55:45 PM »

Quote from: Nick110581 on May 17, 2012, 05:43:24 PM

I like Villa Boas a lot but fear he would not be given support by our fans and it could turn ugly.

The guy has some great ideas.

You would hope that the majority of our support would catch itself on fairly quickly and realise the folly of not backing him.
You'll always get the dissidents and loudmouths who refuse but usually a bit of sense prevails for the most part.
Doesn't it?!!

lobsterboy · « **Reply #5722 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:55:52 PM »

Quote from: CJgerrardkop on May 17, 2012, 05:53:43 PM

well. tell me which of us din celebrate when rafa won the champs league with us, din celebrate during the course of 08/09 year when we almost got it!

It was a good season, good to challenge for the league again, especially when we destroyed manure at greyskull. Disappointed at the end but nothing compared to the horror afterwards as the tumours raped the club.

smicer07 · « **Reply #5723 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:56:07 PM »

Quote from: myliverbird on May 17, 2012, 05:55:26 PM

I like FSG they come across as intelligent people but if Rodgers or Martinez become our new manager that tells me they don't want to spend money

Good point. Shows a complete lack of ambition.

Didi_ram · « **Reply #5724 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:56:18 PM »

Quote from: smicer07 on May 17, 2012, 05:52:42 PM

Far too soon for him. Same for Martinez.

hedger · « **Reply #5725 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:56:29 PM »

Quote from: Didi_ram on May 17, 2012, 05:54:44 PM

And Martinez or Rodgers are?
Frank De Boer has played at the highest level and manages one of the most prestigious clubs in Europe.

Who said martinez or rodgers were? Not me chum

Geezer08 · « **Reply #5726 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:56:39 PM »

If Rafa is not considered and interviewed then its an absolute disgrace. The man is a top 5 manager over the last 10 years, and can work miracles and bring in consistency if backed with a few coins and patience

stoopid yank · « **Reply #5727 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:56:41 PM »

Quote from: peachybum on May 17, 2012, 05:52:03 PM

Not from me. I've always been impressed with him. And hearing how he going to spend time with Spain to try and learn etc he's obviously a guy who wants to go to the very top.

Agreed - don't understand the negativity to Rodgers

He's British
His "CV" includes time at Barcelona and working under Mourinho
He likes possesion football- hates longball
His Swansea team just played us off the park in the last game

Gutted Kenny is gone - would love to see Rafa back but admit it is unlikely - someone like Rodgers might be what we get

Can someone bump the article about him from earlier in the thread?

Z e u s · « **Reply #5728 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:57:01 PM »

Quote from: Didi_ram on May 17, 2012, 05:52:08 PM

Im not against him.Infact I've watched Swansea 20 times this season and I've enjoyed their football.I'd just want someone with experience at the topmost level,having tasted success and trophies..A step like this could be too much for Rodgers or Martinez.On the other hand Klopp or Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas would be high risk,but with great knowledge of European football and competition at the topmost level.A manager who was managing in the Championship last year?We could finish 7th next season and FSG would lose patience with him..Rodgers in a few years will become a great manager,but too soon now,for me.

Yeah the problemn with someone like Rodgers is he is only had one good season.

George Burley was the best thing since sliced bread in 2000 when Ipswich came 5th in the league after getting promoted.

Coppell was also similar when Reading came up and had a simialr season to Swansea, playing attractive football.

You have to prove it over many seasons, not one.

myliverbird · « **Reply #5729 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:57:03 PM »

Quote from: Regi on May 17, 2012, 05:55:45 PM

You would hope that the majority of our support would catch itself on fairly quickly and realise the folly of not backing him.
You'll always get the dissidents and loudmouths who refuse but usually a bit of sense prevails for the most part.
Doesn't it?!!

Yeah they usually work upstairs

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #5730 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:57:35 PM »

Rodgers

What kind of calibre players could he attract?

Tomo! · « **Reply #5731 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:57:49 PM »

I'd be alot more comfortable with Martinez or Rogers if Clarke had stuck around.

He's worked wonders with our defence.

Red Crown · « **Reply #5732 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:57:59 PM »

Quote from: peachybum on May 17, 2012, 05:46:25 PM

Ian Ayre has been doing interviews with everybody and Cecil has said Rafa and Capello are the obvious choices.

Just fell off my chair, he actually has the gall to be suggesting Rafa after firing him? The epic c*nt.

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #5733 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:58:33 PM »

Quote from: stoopid yank on May 17, 2012, 05:56:41 PM

Agreed - don't understand the negativity to Rodgers

He's British

Sorry but what relevance has that got to do with the managers job?

AJG · « **Reply #5734 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:58:38 PM »

Quote from: The G in Gerrard on May 17, 2012, 05:57:35 PM

Rodgers What kind of calibre players could he attract?

SCOTT SINCLAIR

Didi_ram · « **Reply #5735 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:58:59 PM »

Quote from: The G in Gerrard on May 17, 2012, 05:57:35 PM

Rodgers What kind of calibre players could he attract?

Exactly.Nathan Dyer.

jillc · « **Reply #5736 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:59:00 PM »

Quote from: stmichael on May 17, 2012, 05:53:36 PM

reports that rodgers and martinez will both be interviewed next week

Out of interest who is saying this?

Barefoot Doctor · « **Reply #5737 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:59:01 PM »

Permission granted to talk to Roberto Martinez, according to The Times.

Just remember, he's probably one of several candidates - not the candidate.

Fordy · « **Reply #5738 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:59:06 PM »

Quote from: myliverbird on May 17, 2012, 05:55:26 PM

I like FSG they come across as intelligent people but if Rodgers or Martinez become our new manager that tells me they don't want to spend money

You just working that out mate?

Bjinxi · « **Reply #5739 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:59:11 PM »

Quote from: AJG on May 17, 2012, 05:58:38 PM

SCOTT SINCLAIR

So its either Scott Sinclair or Moses/Rodallega

djschembri · « **Reply #5740 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:59:15 PM »

Tony Evans ‏@TonyEvansTimes

Liverpool given permission to speak to Martinez, says Whelan. From @DuckerTheTimes

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #5741 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:59:46 PM »

Martinez might be getting interviewed too

Quote

Tony Evans ‏@TonyEvansTimes

Liverpool given permission to speak to Martinez, says Whelan. From @DuckerTheTimes

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #5742 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:59:50 PM »

Quote from: AJG on May 17, 2012, 05:58:38 PM

SCOTT SINCLAIR

Quote from: Didi_ram on May 17, 2012, 05:58:59 PM

Exactly.Nathan Dyer.

Good preparation for Europa League then I guess

peachybum · « **Reply #5743 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:59:55 PM »

Quote from: The G in Gerrard on May 17, 2012, 05:57:35 PM

Rodgers What kind of calibre players could he attract?

Our club stature and the money we can offer in wages will attract the players we can get(none CL). People are putting way to much stock in a 'big name' automatically bringing big players.

Didi_ram · « **Reply #5744 on:** May 17, 2012, 05:59:56 PM »

Fucking hell.

Tony Evans ‏@TonyEvansTimes
Liverpool given permission to speak to Martinez, says Whelan. From @DuckerTheTimes

verbal kint · « **Reply #5745 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:00:22 PM »

Quote from: djschembri on May 17, 2012, 05:59:15 PM

Tony Evans ‏@TonyEvansTimes

Liverpool given permission to speak to Martinez, says Whelan. From @DuckerTheTimes

This just smacks of Hodgson again.

Monkey Red · « **Reply #5746 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:00:27 PM »

If Rafa Benitez returned as manager of Liverpool I would be chuffed beyond belief! I don´t have a single bad memory of him, only the fondest memories. I don´t give a toss about how much he spent, the shit signings he made, all that doesn´t matter to me because, after all those years of winning sod all he made us believe again, he turned us into a force to reckoned with in Europe, a team to be feared, and for that I will be eternally grateful and hope beyond hope that he is reinstated. It would be a great day for Liverpool Football Club.

Fruity · « **Reply #5747 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:00:38 PM »

Quote from: myliverbird on May 17, 2012, 05:55:26 PM

I like FSG they come across as intelligent people but if Rodgers or Martinez become our new manager that tells me they don't want to spend money

I agree. I fully expect our next manager to be a winner of some sort. These managers are available (capello, benitez, Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas) but there are others we could attempt to steal as well. Whilst there is a small chance the likes of Martinez, Rogers, Pardew etc could deliver for us I think the risk is too big. Add to the fact a sucessful manager will show ambition and will attract a better class of player.

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #5748 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:00:49 PM »

Quote from: Barefoot Doctor on May 17, 2012, 05:59:01 PM

Permission granted to talk to Roberto Martinez, according to The Times.

Just remember, he's probably one of several candidates - not the candidate.

They wouldn't approach him without him being favourite?

lorenzo23 · « **Reply #5749 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:00:50 PM »

Quote from: Didi_ram on May 17, 2012, 05:59:56 PM

Fucking hell.

Tony Evans ‏@TonyEvansTimes
Liverpool given permission to speak to Martinez, says Whelan. From @DuckerTheTimes

Same guy said china brought us?

something awful · « **Reply #5750 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:01:10 PM »

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.

This is a really short-sighted move IMO. I think Martinez might be a good manager one day, but it's a lot to expect that from him now.

myliverbird · « **Reply #5751 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:01:12 PM »

Absolutely no problem with Martinez being interviewed as long as Rafa, Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas et al get to blow him out the water

AJG · « **Reply #5752 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:01:13 PM »

, I like martinez as a guy, but fuck no. Just no. no no no no no no no

lankyguy007 · « **Reply #5753 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:01:14 PM »

I still don't see why Rafa is not first choice. No compensation fee, proved himself to be one of the best managers in the world, a winner and loves the club. It would be incredibly stupid not to look at him imho.

Fruity · « **Reply #5754 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:01:22 PM »

Quote from: Didi_ram on May 17, 2012, 05:59:56 PM

Fucking hell.

Tony Evans ‏@TonyEvansTimes
Liverpool given permission to speak to Martinez, says Whelan. From @DuckerTheTimes

As long as all we do is speak to him I have no problem.

Didi_ram · « **Reply #5755 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:01:27 PM »

Quote from: lorenzo23 on May 17, 2012, 06:00:50 PM

Same guy said china brought us?

Mate WHELAN has apparently said it.

Endoe · « **Reply #5756 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:01:27 PM »

Quote from: Noelle on May 17, 2012, 05:48:47 PM

Can someone who knows more tell me why, specifically, they're anti-Rodgers? As I said before I know next to fuck all about him. All I know is he's currently Swansea manager, has them playing some decent stuff, and kept them up this season. So yeah.

For me ater the results we've had, I'd like someone with a proven record of managing a big club and big expectaitions. I guess I see a Hodgson Mk 2, that's probably incredibly unfair, but last season Owen Coyle was being mentioned, I'd prefer someone with more of a track record.

redrockydennis · « **Reply #5757 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:01:40 PM »

But, if FSG consider a champions league place to be the minimum they expect, why would they take on martinez or Rodgers? Surely they would be looking at a champions league proven manager?

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #5758 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:02:16 PM »

James Ducker ‏@DuckerTheTimes
Dave Whelan has confirmed to The Times that #LFC have asked for permission to speak to Roberto Martinez. "It is true," Whelan said.

James Ducker ‏@DuckerTheTimes
Whelan: "I don’t know the exact timescales of when he is due to meet with the Liverpool owners but I will never stand in Roberto’s way.”#LFC

Paragon · « **Reply #5759 on:** May 17, 2012, 06:02:25 PM »

For what it's worth, I think it would be a mistake to bring Rafa back to the club. He had five years to build a team good enough to challenge for the league title, but in the end they weren't even good enough for the top four. I also think his philosophy of the game is flawed; he never focused on playing a free-flowing, expansive, attacking game and instead took a cautious approach that frustrated many of us.

At the end of his last season he said we needed to sign up to five new players; that really says a lot about the squad he built. I'm thankful for the trophies he helped us to win and some of the fantastic European nights we enjoyed under Benitez, but I honestly believe bringing him back to the club would be a step in the wrong direction.