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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1360 on: May 16, 2012, 07:19:29 PM »
And me mate. That's what sticking in my throat - it's fucking horrific.
To me, I can perfectly understand why people were unhappy with our performance this year, but to stick the boot in when a man has been sacked just is not right
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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1361 on: May 16, 2012, 07:19:31 PM »
yet another crazy day in the life of LFC, what i want to know is how the hell has Downing got in the England squad?

It's Roy Hodgson, what were you expecting?
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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1362 on: May 16, 2012, 07:19:33 PM »
some right bloody drama queens in here, step away from the keyboard and breathe..

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1363 on: May 16, 2012, 07:19:51 PM »
Does this mean we will get some new players, surely can't expect a new manager not to have his own squad?

I think we can forget about new players for the time being. No manager, no director of football, no chief exec and no director of communications. No one to do transfers.
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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1364 on: May 16, 2012, 07:20:16 PM »
No doublt Villas-Boas was fantastic at Porto,for whatever reason it didnt go well at Chelsea but it would be interesting.

Hey mate that is the beauty of football really. Rafa did very well with Valencia and us but very badly with Inter. Jose is one very successful manager (and I hate him) but most managers do have up and downs. Hodgson only has downs :) ..

Martinez for me is too inexperienced but the same age as Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas.
Padrew please no. He was crap with his past 3 teams and doing well at Newcastle but I dont rate him.. And sorry for been a bit racist I dont rate English managers at all par from 'Arry...

Has anybody in here mentioned Capello ? I am not sure what to think but he has the experience and skills club level.. Anybody?
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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1365 on: May 16, 2012, 07:20:31 PM »
he wouldnt be given the time required here, same as chelsea

i think he would be given time atleast a few years,  fsg want the next big thing and Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas fits the bill perfectly 

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1366 on: May 16, 2012, 07:20:33 PM »
Mark Lawrenson: "Rafa Benitez thought he was bigger than the club"; "If Moyes wasn't at Everton, then yes".

Unfuckingbelieveable.

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1367 on: May 16, 2012, 07:20:38 PM »
It really annoys me when other fans say Liverpool should be satsified with achieving a mid-table finish with the squad we have.

We have a good squad with players like Suarez, Skrtel, Gerrard, Agger who are all world class and the other players are not as bad as people say. We did not have much luck but teams like Everton and Newcastle should not be finishing above us and next season I believe we will be much closer to getting into the top four and prove people wrong.

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1368 on: May 16, 2012, 07:20:57 PM »
Ayre i believe was sacked too

No he wasn't, just twitter rumours. He just issued an official statement about how him and Kenny were bessie mates and the fans shouldn't take it out on him.
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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1369 on: May 16, 2012, 07:20:59 PM »
At least wait and see who they appoint before committing suicide. If it's O'Neil or someone then I'm right behind you jumping off the cliff but if they bring in a Rafa/Pep/Klopp level manager, as sad as it is to see Kenny sacked, I believe it will be for the better - particularly long term.
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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1370 on: May 16, 2012, 07:21:01 PM »
sad fucking day. Business has taken over football, the last team to show respect to the fans is about to diminish.  i'd like to win the league but not to line the pockets of any c*nt. winning is in our blood but not at the expense of everything we stand for. Pissed off me self, not because of Kenny, but of what we are about to become.

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1371 on: May 16, 2012, 07:21:20 PM »
Mark Lawrenson: "Rafa Benitez thought he was bigger than the club"; "If Moyes wasn't at Everton, then yes".

Unfuckingbelieveable.
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« Reply #1372 on: May 16, 2012, 07:21:21 PM »
Ralf Rangnick gets my vote. But I think Rodgers is the front runner personally.
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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1373 on: May 16, 2012, 07:21:27 PM »
Honestly with the complete lack of anyone in any important position at the club right now, I have a feeling the 12/13 season needs writing off in advance.  Who ever comes in as gaffer needs the freedom to embed a philosophy without the threat of repercussions for performance in the short term.  By the start of the season we may have something resembling a coherent direction for the club to head in but as it will be new from top to bottom ( i can see a fair number if ins/outs on the playing staff too now). 

If FSG think this can happen in one season they are deluded.  I am not saying this is so but it is a worry for me with even the King only getting one season.

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1374 on: May 16, 2012, 07:21:28 PM »
yet another crazy day in the life of LFC, what i want to know is how the hell has Downing got in the England squad?
What a terrible but true thing to say at this point.

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1375 on: May 16, 2012, 07:21:31 PM »
Ayre i believe was sacked too
Is this true??????
What the Fk has this club become?
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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1376 on: May 16, 2012, 07:21:39 PM »

Has anybody in here mentioned Capello ? I am not sure what to think but he has the experience and skills club level.. Anybody?

No! We need someone to come in here and potentially be here for 5-10 years. Someone with a long term vision.
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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1377 on: May 16, 2012, 07:21:41 PM »
At least wait and see who they appoint before committing suicide. If it's O'Neil or someone then I'm right behind you jumping off the cliff but if they bring in a Rafa/Pep/Klopp level manager, as sad as it is to see Kenny sacked, I believe it will be for the better - particularly long term.
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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1378 on: May 16, 2012, 07:21:46 PM »
I hope Downing is taking a long hard look in the mirror tonight, acknowledging his poor performances have contributed to this.

We win as a team and we lose as a team, to single out one player is poor to be honest.

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1379 on: May 16, 2012, 07:21:47 PM »
Some people couldn't wait to throw him under the bus, that what saddens me the most
And me mate. That's what sticking in my throat - it's fucking horrific.

totally agree how long will the next one get?
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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1380 on: May 16, 2012, 07:22:06 PM »
Ayre i believe was sacked too
Huh? I very much doubt that.
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« Reply #1381 on: May 16, 2012, 07:22:26 PM »
No he wasn't, just twitter rumours. He just issued an official statement about how him and Kenny were bessie mates and the fans shouldn't take it out on him.
Ha that may just get him the bullet now

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« Reply #1382 on: May 16, 2012, 07:22:31 PM »
Ralf Rangnick gets my vote.
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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1383 on: May 16, 2012, 07:22:38 PM »
Mark Lawrenson: "Rafa Benitez thought he was bigger than the club"; "If Moyes wasn't at Everton, then yes".

Unfuckingbelieveable.

The man is a disgrace.

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1385 on: May 16, 2012, 07:22:52 PM »
people slating fsg for the way they sacked kenny should really read kennys statement:

"Whilst I am obviously disappointed to be leaving the football club, I can say that the matter has been handled by the owners and all concerned in an honourable, respectful and dignified way and reflects on the quality of the people involved and their continued desire to move the football club forward in the same way as

if kenny can show respect and be dignified then so should people on here

Doesn't that quote just show what a man we have lost

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1386 on: May 16, 2012, 07:23:05 PM »
5 Live saying they've been told Ayre not left and remains an essential part of FSG's plans.
"My coach told me to warm up just before the break. He told me I was going to take care of Kaka. I didn't think it was possible to turn things around but in the dressing room at halftime Rafa Benitez was calm - "We are Liverpool FC, we have so many fans, we are not going to be slaughtered. If we can score a goal quickly we push on from there.""

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1387 on: May 16, 2012, 07:23:14 PM »
Mark Lawrenson: "Rafa Benitez thought he was bigger than the club"; "If Moyes wasn't at Everton, then yes".

Unfuckingbelieveable.

some of his comments over the last couple of years have been horrendous but this really tops it all off

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1388 on: May 16, 2012, 07:23:32 PM »
To me, I can perfectly understand why people were unhappy with our performance this year, but to stick the boot in when a man has been sacked just is not right

Who's sticking the boot in? I havent read any posts on here kicking Kenny.

People are starting to imagine things now. If there are posts sticking the boot in please refer me to them, as I havent seen them, and yes I have read the hole thread.

It seems unless you are in total state of bereavement and greif over the situation you are not considered a red.

Fucking madness!!
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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1389 on: May 16, 2012, 07:24:26 PM »
Is it fuck, he's spot on! Not just Downing of course but he's the main shithouse!

since when are we a one man team with Downing being the "man"? shut up, it's the entire team you bus wanker

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« Reply #1390 on: May 16, 2012, 07:24:36 PM »
5 Live saying he's been told Ayre not left and remains an essential part of FSG's plans.
...and so he should be from a commercial and revenue generating point at least, very effective

Communication and others bits perhaps not so.

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1391 on: May 16, 2012, 07:24:43 PM »
I'm just sick of seeing  managers who love our club, feel every triumph and every disaster just as much as we do, get treated like shit by our owners.

Rafa and Kenny both chewed up and spat out on the back of a bad season. I feel sick just thinking how Kenny must be feeling at the moment to be honest.
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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1392 on: May 16, 2012, 07:24:45 PM »
I'm gutted Kenny's been sacked, even though I was one of those that was in the middle over whether he should be manager next season.

As for a replacement, I really think Rafa is the one who should be first choice. Regardless of the "you never go back" line, I still think he is the one to make it right. If players that wanted him out don't like it, they can leave.

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1393 on: May 16, 2012, 07:24:54 PM »
Apologies. Several people posted earlier he was gone.

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« Reply #1394 on: May 16, 2012, 07:25:02 PM »
This was always going to be the problem when they brought Kenny back, if it didn't work out and they had to let him go then they'd have to deal with the backlash from the fans.

Hopefully fans don't go overboard with expressing their pain and give the new manager the backing they gave Kenny.
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« Reply #1395 on: May 16, 2012, 07:25:11 PM »
It's only natural to wonder who FSG have got in mind to replace Kenny. We had a poor season and a decision needed to be made, I wanted Kenny to stay and am gutted with the decision and the manner of it all, but in the end FSG (and whoever they were being advised by) had to decide if they felt that Kenny was the right man to take us forward at this moment in time. I've read people stating 'what if the new manager doesn't finish top 4?' but the real question should be 'what if the new manager finishes 17 points from 4th?' If we had finished 6th and a few points from 4th this season I highly doubt that there would any discussion over Kenny's future.

It's all very emotional because of who Kenny is but if they believe this is what's right for the progression of the club then they had to do it rather than bow to fan pressure and keep him. Even more important than this decision is what FSG do over the next month or so, it will shape their entire reign at the club.

I absolutely believe that Kenny should have stayed and have very little faith in what FSG are doing. They accepted that we were going to buy young players but then expected results in all competitions immediately, they stood back and watched Kenny take all the heat in the Suarez row before stepping in when it was far too late. Maybe, as has been suggested today, giving Kenny the job last January was another one of their mistakes especially if they were never 100% convinced by him. All of that is in the past now and we're stuck with them so what they do now is completely vital and will shape our future for years to come.

Such a sad day for the club.

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1396 on: May 16, 2012, 07:25:41 PM »
5 Live saying they've been told Ayre not left and remains an essential part of FSG's plans.

Good but hope he's not involved in searching for new manager

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1397 on: May 16, 2012, 07:25:49 PM »
totally agree how long will the next one get?
What makes me laugh is the same bellends on Twitter calling for Rafa to return were calling for his head towards the end of his reign
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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1398 on: May 16, 2012, 07:25:55 PM »
The man is a disgrace.


Agreed.A complete and utter disgrace.

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Re: The King is gone, long live the next one and good luck...
« Reply #1399 on: May 16, 2012, 07:26:10 PM »
Absolutley no chance with Pep Guardiola

one thing we should now about liverpool is to expect the unexpected

the owners must have some sort of strategy in place if they are making so many changes this summer

i cant think of a better job for pep than to try and make liverpool great again