Topic: General Transfer Discussion about LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB

[swordfishtrombone]

We're being linked with Victor Wanyama. As are QPR & Stoke. Every time I've seen the lad, he's impressed me. Plays in DM but can play CB too.

Yup I really like the look of him too. Younger brother of McDonald Mariga who plays for Inter. I do think we're missing a trick though. Celtic signed him for less than £1m, and would be lookin for £5m+ after just a season in Glasgow. I really think we should be looking into a partnership deal with a Scottish club, which would allow us to take a gamble on some of these younger players. By signing players and sending them north of the border on loan we'd get a proper look at them without either hurting their development by not giving them enough first team opportunities, or by throwing them in at the deep end when we don't know how ready they are.

[gazzathered]

If we play 17m for Huntelaar on a 4 year 100kpw deal. That's effectively 9m a year with no resale value. I don't think that's a great investment compared to someone like Loic Remy, Giroud or Leandro Damiao. Fantastic player but too much money.

Four years equals 38 million, but if he fires us into champions league one of those four years he's paid for himself.

[Legendary_Nines]

"I think there are a few players who can come in and improve the group straight away." said Rodgers



JIZZZZZZZZZZ


Link:

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/rodgers-on-cole-and-sigurdsson

[swordfishtrombone]

And discussing players we havent been linked with is also borderline idiotic. Which is maybe he is trying to say. This thread is for sensible discussion about players who have been linked with us by a credible source.

Not "I think we should look at player A and B because he is fucking awesome"

It's not though is it? It's clearly just a thread for random speculation, whether there is a proper source or not . The individual player threads seem to be for people we've been credibly linked to.

[Scouserpool]

We're being linked with Victor Wanyama. As are QPR & Stoke. Every time I've seen the lad, he's impressed me. Plays in DM but can play CB too.

Never seen him. Why did he impress you, could you maybe list his strenghts/Weaknesses mate? His Youtube compliation rates him as the "new Desailly"

[Scouserpool]

It's not though is it? It's clearly just a thread for random speculation, whether there is a proper source or not . The individual player threads seem to be for people we've been credibly linked to.

Well yes, just dont get the point discussing players we clearly wont sign. Guess its just me then!

[Jeffe]

The biggest issue with Huntelaar wouldn't be his age or wages, it would be Carroll.

Can you imagine Huntelaar and Carroll playing together up front? Never. If we bought Huntelaar, we'd basically give Carroll the message that we have no faith in him and that his Liverpool career is over. And saying 'hopefully in a few years Carroll has found his shooting boots' is just ludicrous. How is he going to improve if he isn't playing? Carroll can be a success here and he will be if he gets enough game time + shows the passion & willingness he did at the end of last season.

[Hazell]

On the former, Rodgers said: "First and foremost, Gylfi is a Hoffenheim player.

"I took him on loan for the second half of last season and he did very, very well. He scored seven goals and made a real, positive contribution.

"I wanted to sign him for Swansea but, like I've said to him and his representatives, that has to be his first port of call.

"If he comes into the market for whatever reason - and I'm sure there'll be a number of clubs interested in Gylfi - then of course I would like to be in a position to put our case here at Liverpool to sign him.

"But I've always said, I think he's a player Swansea have had an agreement with and they have to have every chance to try and sign him. That's only right.

"If anything changes from that, we'll look at it from there."

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/rodgers-on-cole-and-sigurdsson

[Severely]

Can someone explain to why they think all the love for tello is warranted. From what i've seen of him is that he is your standard selfish winger, likes to play on the left and then cut in on his right foot, in what is always a highly predictable move.  He doesnt really even play in the barca stlye either. Yes he has the movement down but he rarely looks for the pass or picks up his head to spot an open player, not to mention that his crosses were shit.  I just feel that if it was any other team he was playing for nobody would care much

For me, Tello is a very exciting player, full of potential, but it does worry me that he's never really showed any signs of vision or creativity in his passing. Tunnel vision could explain why Barca are considering selling him, but then again, he's hardly played enough games for us to make a proper judgment.

[Tepid water]

Daft thing to say. I agree there's very little chance of him coming here, but saying it's impossible (which is what you're saying) is borderline idiotic.

I will give £20 to a charity of your choice if he signs.


Nothing is impossible if you want to be an utter pedant, but he won't be here so what's the point in even discussing him?

[Didi_ram]

Rodgers talking about one or two players that can come in and improve.
Would 1 or 2 suffice?I can look at Sigurdsson possibly coming in,yet we need someone for the right,and up front,and a proper CM/DM cover.

[Barefoot Doctor]

Rodgers shouldn't be talking about Gylfi. The player is well aware we want him, keep it all behind closed doors - it's going to happen away.

As for Vertonghen being a done deal for Spurs - almost, but it's possible we could take advantage of the vacuum following Redknapp's departure. The Belgian may be having second thoughts, although it's possible Levy already told him that Redknapp would be leaving.

Look at Sigurdsson - even more of a done deal than Vertonghen, and now he won't go to Swansea.

Rodgers talking about one or two players that can come in and improve.
Would 1 or 2 suffice?I can look at Sigurdsson possibly coming in,yet we need someone for the right,and up front,and a proper CM/DM cover.

No, I'm sure he knows we need more than that. In his first interview with the site he talked about 4 players. He's just trying to adjust expectations so if, by some chance, we only end up with two players it'll seem like the plan. If he says we need five players and then we only get two or three, we look bad.

[Didi_ram]

Your post has stalled before it's even got off the ground, mate. Vertonghen has all but signed for Spurs.

Has not.After Redknapp's exit,nothing will be certain.A few Spurs fans I know are fearing for the Remy and Vertonghen deals,as well as doubting whether their superstars will stay.

[hollger]

Rodgers shouldn't be talking about Gylfi. The player is well aware we want him, keep it all behind closed doors - it's going to happen away.

I agree to a point, but he's only responding to a question and he hasn't said anything new there. He's just basically re-iterated exactly what he said when he was appointed and he was asked about the player.

As for the love-fest over Huntelaar, he really isn't coming here. There's been nothing to suggest he's even a player we've looked at/are looking at, so all this speculation about getting him for £xx million and how much he'll cost in wages is pure fantasy.

[swordfishtrombone]

Well yes, just dont get the point discussing players we clearly wont sign. Guess its just me then!

That's crazy talk!

[exino]

IMO, we should give serious thoughts on Vertonghen. A CB can also play at DM and LB. Quality player at low price. Maybe CB may not be a problematic position as of now. But we should do some opportunistic purchases. In the next season or so, Jamie will be phased out completely I guess. So that leaves us with Agger, Skrtel and Coates with Wisdom, Wilson as the only young CB's who have the chance of making it here. They might also not make it here. So, signing such players is completely must for us.

A summer of Vertonghen, two of Tello/Ramirez/Johnson and a back up for Carroll would do us fine

Quite right about Vertonghen! He's quite a versatile footballer & has bags of quality. Seeing as Spurs are going through a manager change NOW is the time for us to hijack this deal. For the quoted 10m he would be an absolute steal & provide quality cover for us in DM & even LB!

[PluckyUnderdog]

I will give £20 to a charity of your choice if he signs.


Nothing is impossible if you want to be an utter pedant, but he won't be here so what's the point in even discussing him?

I'm a realist mate, as I'm sure you are. But this isn't a thread where a credible source is needed before discussing player A, or player B, it just a general thread. As I said, I agree with you, that he's unlikely to come here. But if people want to discuss Huntelaar in relation to how he'd fit into our squad, then they should be allowed to do it.

[gorgepir]

In my opinion, Tello looks like a younger version of Nani. He might end up a good player, but too selfish. Like Nani he probably would not fit in the Barca system anyway.

We already have a player with similar style (not ability) in Toni Silva. At 5-7 million maybe worth it but not more.

[CaptainSuarez]

Anything happened of note anyone? Thinking of avoiding this thread till after the Euro's, sending myself mad trailing through pages of guessing and waffle in search of something half credible.  What time of the summer do the Honda links start kicking in?

[NOTBORNIN1982]

Anything happened of note anyone? Thinking of avoiding this thread till after the Euro's, sending myself mad trailing through pages of guessing and waffle in search of something half credible.  What time of the summer do the Honda links start kicking in?

Tello is good on football manager 

[Discipline]

"I like to very much keep my counsel on potential targets," he said.

"I think there are a few players who can come in and improve the group straight away.

"I know the types of player I need to bring here to make us function well and that's something myself, the club and the board will look at.

"The problem with a club like Liverpool is they get linked with every player going. It looks like, with every player linked plus the players we've already got, we're going to have five or six teams next year.

"That's the way of the world these days. Every player wants to play for Liverpool. The magnitude, the size and the history of the club, and the quality of the people here in the city, means people will want to come and play here.

"The problem is, everyone can't.

"I know what we've got, more or less, in the squad, but I also know there are a couple of signings that could really improve what we do.

"That's something we'll work together on over the course of the summer and hopefully we can get one or two in."

As well as new names that could appear on the Liverpool teamsheet next term, Rodgers is also keen to give a fresh start to those already in the squad.


http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/rodgers-on-cole-and-sigurdsson

[Discipline]

On Gylfi:

Rodgers said:
 "First and foremost, Gylfi is a Hoffenheim player.

 "I took him on loan for the second half of last season and he did very, very well. He scored seven goals and made a real, positive contribution.

"I wanted to sign him for Swansea but, like I've said to him and his representatives, that has to be his first port of call.

"If he comes into the market for whatever reason - and I'm sure there'll be a number of clubs interested in Gylfi - then of course I would like to be in a position to put our case here at Liverpool to sign him.

"But I've always said, I think he's a player Swansea have had an agreement with and they have to have every chance to try and sign him. That's only right.

"If anything changes from that, we'll look at it from there."

 Same source as above.

[CaptainSuarez]

Tello is good on football manager 

Ha. Found the original Champ Man the other day in my desk and started playing it. Some of the players who became world class on there was laughable. Mark Kerr anyone? Pawel Browzek?

Sorry, completely off point i know.

[Discipline]

Ha. Found the original Champ Man the other day in my desk and started playing it. Some of the players who became world class on there was laughable. Mark Kerr anyone? Pawel Browzek? Sorry, completely off point i know.

Dean Keates (spelling on that?) CM4.

[aerorossi29]

The biggest issue with Huntelaar wouldn't be his age or wages, it would be Carroll.

Can you imagine Huntelaar and Carroll playing together up front? Never. If we bought Huntelaar, we'd basically give Carroll the message that we have no faith in him and that his Liverpool career is over. And saying 'hopefully in a few years Carroll has found his shooting boots' is just ludicrous. How is he going to improve if he isn't playing? Carroll can be a success here and he will be if he gets enough game time + shows the passion & willingness he did at the end of last season.

Could not disagree more. We should not be signing players that make others feel comfortable about their positions at this club and their roles or lack of in any future success we may have.

Carroll may well be a success here but he is our only out and out striker in the first team squad. People will argue that Bellamy and Suarez are strikers, but not for me.

I think it is imperative that we sign a striker with a reputation ala Huntelaar to actually keep Carroll on his toes. His 4 or 5 good games towards the end of a season that was over is nowhere near enough to guarantee him being first choice game in game out. Looking at all the clubs who finished above us, and a few below, they each had more striking options than us an will even add to them now. We need options, and that means not throwing all our eggs into the Carroll basket.

[Kovai Red]

Your post has stalled before it's even got off the ground, mate. Vertonghen has all but signed for Spurs.

Not signed mate? He is still not their player. So is Gylfi to Swansea

[Gravy]

Has not.After Redknapp's exit,nothing will be certain.A few Spurs fans I know are fearing for the Remy and Vertonghen deals,as well as doubting whether their superstars will stay.

If they had any sense they would go and get Rafa sharpish

[Jonjo Legend]

Not sure I like all this making Siggy go and speak to them business to be honest. Surely Jenkins will offer him silly wages knowing full well that he isn't going to join them anyway and then we'll end up having to either match or come within at least 10k of that shit. Dunno maybe I'm thinking into it too much. who knows.

[Tarantino Red]

Regardless of whether it would work - there's no way we will sign Huntelaar.

[Barefoot Doctor]

Not sure I like all this making Siggy go and speak to them business to be honest. Surely Jenkins will offer him silly wages knowing full well that he isn't going to join them anyway and then we'll end up having to either match or come within at least 10k of that shit. Dunno maybe I'm thinking into it too much. who knows.

They've already agreed personal terms, they won't go crazy and offer him bigger wages. What if they do and then we say we don't want him? They'd have to actually pay those crazy wages! He'll have a courtesy call with Laudrup, and say thanks but no thanks. Then we'll start dealing with Hoffenheim.

[underdog]

Not sure I like all this making Siggy go and speak to them business to be honest. Surely Jenkins will offer him silly wages knowing full well that he isn't going to join them anyway and then we'll end up having to either match or come within at least 10k of that shit. Dunno maybe I'm thinking into it too much. who knows.

Nah its just Brendan doing the decent thing and saying he won't compete with Swansea for him, if the player decides to turn down Swansea then we will sort something out. Basically telling the player we are in for him once he's rejected Swansea.

[Kovai Red]

Not sure I like all this making Siggy go and speak to them business to be honest. Surely Jenkins will offer him silly wages knowing full well that he isn't going to join them anyway and then we'll end up having to either match or come within at least 10k of that shit. Dunno maybe I'm thinking into it too much. who knows.

Jenkins is not such a silly businessman.

[LiamG]

If onlyy

[Jonjo Legend]

They've already agreed personal terms, they won't go crazy and offer him bigger wages. What if they do and then we say we don't want him? They'd have to actually pay those crazy wages! He'll have a courtesy call with Laudrup, and say thanks but no thanks. Then we'll start dealing with Hoffenheim.

Oh yeah you're right actually. For some retarded reason I thought it was just the fee, but Swansea did actually announce that too didn't they. Thanks for the wake-up call!

[Romford_Red]

I think he's the best option out there at the moment. His release clause is £16.25m, and I think we would get him for around the 90k a week mark. That's a guess obviously but apparently he is fuming at not starting for Holland. The next World Cup is realistically his last chance to play in a major tournament, if we pitched it correctly I think he would be open to moving to the Premier League for less wages than he'd earn in Germany. He'll know performing for Schalke won't get him recognised above Van Persie.

Those wages aren't something we should shit ourselves about either. We currently pay that to a finished defender who offers nothing to the team, and a player we loaned out last year. If he bangs in 25+ goals it's money well spent, especially if he earns us a Champions League spot.

Just what we need, a player who puts himself ahead of the team.

[No666]

Nah its just Brendan doing the decent thing and saying he won't compete with Swansea for him, if the player decides to turn down Swansea then we will sort something out. Basically telling the player we are in for him once he's rejected Swansea.

Which makes it a farcical pretence at the moral high ground so Brendan can go back for a pint with his mates. Either we want Sigurdsson or we don't. Let's just come clean and stop the fannying around. In the meantime are we stalling on another target for AM because we don't know whether Sigurdsson will take a fancy to Laudrup? I like Rodgers's public persona but someone should call a halt on this one.

[Sarge]

Arsenal are interested in signing Russian international midfielder Alan Dzagoev, 21. The £13m-rated CSKA Moscow player is out of contract in December.

13!! Gotta have a look at that?

[NOTBORNIN1982]

Arsenal are interested in signing Russian international midfielder Alan Dzagoev, 21. The £13m-rated CSKA Moscow player is out of contract in December.

13!! Gotta have a look at that?

But what about 'the rules'!!

[Tepid water]

Arsenal are interested in signing Russian international midfielder Alan Dzagoev, 21. The £13m-rated CSKA Moscow player is out of contract in December.

13!! Gotta have a look at that?

Would need to shift aquilani and cole first though surely?

[Sarge]

Would need to shift aquilani and cole first though surely?

Yes but don't call me Shirley.