Topic: General Transfer Discussion about LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB

[ghost1359]

John Sinnott ‏@JohnSinnott
Agents have been phoning Brendan Rodgers to find out what positions looking at for new players. Offensive midfielder might be needed. #lfc

Someone get Barton on the line.

[Barefoot Doctor]

Tello and Gaston Ramirez are the only players i've been excited by so far, if we get one of the two i would be made up. Think Ramirez is going to be too expensive, so hoping the Tello link is true!

I don't think Ramirez will be anywhere near as expensive as Bologna are claiming. They're furiously trying to drum up interest in him for big bucks, but I reckon he'll be less than £15m, nothing like the £20m the Italian club are touting him around for.

[Baz Smythe]

I'm getting a good feeling that we might be getting Belhanda. We know his agent invited Kenny and Clarke so he'll be interested in coming to us and we know City were interested in him and our new recruitment guy must have scouted him a few times.

I am clearly putting 2 and 2 together here but you never know

[Barefoot Doctor]

I'm getting a good feeling that we might be getting Belhanda. We know his agent invited Kenny and Clarke so he'll be interested in coming to us and we know City were interested in him and our new recruitment guy must have scouted him a few times.

I am clearly putting 2 and 2 together here but you never know

Would be a good one. Everything has gone quiet for him. Don't see PSG trying for him, they seem to be shopping at a different level. Arsenal would be a likely destination here, but Podolski and Giroud should be enough for them in terms of attacking players. Man City might still be interested, but always got the feeling they were just using Belhanda to drop Hazard's wage demands - not sure the interest in the Montpellier player was genuine.

Thing is, if we're getting Sigurdsson will we also want Belhanda? Thought both of their preferred positions was behind the striker?

[Fuzion6]

I'm getting a good feeling that we might be getting Belhanda. We know his agent invited Kenny and Clarke so he'll be interested in coming to us and we know City were interested in him and our new recruitment guy must have scouted him a few times.

I am clearly putting 2 and 2 together here but you never know

Belhanda would be a great fit in Rodgers' system...fast, good dribbler but unlike pure wingers, he has played DM, CM, AM and wide so is a very rounded player with good passing and will track back. His issue is he is a bit of a one year wonder and temperament is questionable but I would love him at the club.

[Barefoot Doctor]

How would everyone feel if we went for the following players? Think all are more than gettable, and would really improve us.

Jordy Clasie
Moussa Dembele
Gylfi Sigurdsson
Luciano Narsingh
Luuk de Jong

Clasie could cover for Lucas, or play beside him. Dembele can play in various positions, and along with Gylfi would give us a real attacking impetus. Narsingh would provide some pace on the right hand side, and wouldn't cost a bomb. De Jong boosts our options up front.

All five fit FSG's age criteria - Dembele the oldest of the five at 24. I'd possibly be looking at buying a fairly cheap fourth striker in addition, maybe someone like Jordan Rhodes.

[El_Pelusa_10]

How would everyone feel if we went for the following players? Think all are more than gettable, and would really improve us.

Jordy Clasie
Moussa Dembele
Gylfi Sigurdsson
Luciano Narsingh
Luuk de Jong

Clasie could cover for Lucas, or play beside him. Dembele can play in various positions, and along with Gylfi would give us a real attacking impetus. Narsingh would provide some pace on the right hand side, and wouldn't cost a bomb. De Jong boosts our options up front.

All five fit FSG's age criteria - Dembele the oldest of the five at 24. I'd possibly be looking at buying a fairly cheap fourth striker in addition, maybe someone like Jordan Rhodes.

Would love it. But would be at least payin 50 million for all...

Dembele would cost a bomb id say. Inflated price of at least 15 million.Very good player though

[dakid]

Tello is a player that excites me. Massive pace and a wedge of trickery, but while he's scored goals when I've watched Barca he has also been poor with decisions quite a bit. He's still young though and that kind of thing can be taught, and playing/developing with Barca's team can only have improved him. He'd fit into the Rodgers system without much bedding in I'd have thought and would offer us that genuine, blistering pace on the wing we've sorely lacked for years. If the price is really around the mooted £7m and he's interested in us, then I'd take the chance!

"a wedge of trickery" I must be watching a different Tello. While he has close enough control, not amazing, his only trick is to kick the ball past the full back and run onto it. He only started four games all season. He made alot of sub appearences where his pace is an asset. Which suits his game. He needs space to run into he is not going to be much good to us at anfield where teams come to defend. I realy dont get the hype with this fella is it just because he plays for Barcelona?

He was very poor towards the end of the reason. Lets not kid ourselves here there is a reason Barcelona are selling him and they are not exactly overloaded with left wingers  themselves. Barcelona are doing with Tello what Manchester United have done with the likes of frazier cambell etc for years play them increase their value and sell them when you know they are not good enough.

I think if we are going to sign a left winger we need to sign one not just for potential. We have sterling for that. If we sign tello while keeping hold of downing then sterling must go on loan as he will be unlikely to get any games.

[NOTBORNIN1982]

"a wedge of trickery" I must be watching a different Tello. While he has close enough control, not amazing, his only trick is to kick the ball past the full back and run onto it. He only started four games all season. He made alot of sub appearences where his pace is an asset. Which suits his game. He needs space to run into he is not going to be much good to us at anfield where teams come to defend. I realy dont get the hype with this fella is it just because he plays for Barcelona?

He was very poor towards the end of the reason. Lets not kid ourselves here there is a reason Barcelona are selling him and they are not exactly overloaded with left wingers  themselves. Barcelona are doing with Tello what Manchester United have done with the likes of frazier cambell etc for years play them increase their value and sell them when you know they are not good enough.

I think if we are going to sign a left winger we need to sign one not just for potential. We have sterling for that. If we sign tello while keeping hold of downing sterlings must go on loan as he will be unlikely to get any games.

My feeling's summed up right there.

Everyone is on this Tello like he's the latest Messi or something, he looks half decent and that’s about it. Would be no more inclined to buy him as I would any other fast, young winger.

[NeilR]

An age pattern is certainly appearing, Affely, Tello, Kalou, Sinclair, Sigurdsson, Krasic, Dos Santos, De Jong, Diame & Zaha.

Yup. And a summer of Tello, Affellay, Sigurdsson, Clasie & De Jong wouldn't be a bad piece of business at all (young, gettable, not relatively expensive & not massive wages).

However, we are being linked with quite a few names (as usual), but if our management hunt is anything to go by then the media probably don't have much of a clue who we are actually in for (Sigurdsson aside) until probably nearer the time the deal is to be done.

[Roger Federer]

Jordy Clasie
Moussa Dembele
Gylfi Sigurdsson

We'd have to sell atleast two players to get those. Can't really comment on the quality of those players (only seen Dembele - and rate him highly), but Clasie is similar to Lucas, right?

We'd have Clasie-Lucas for the defensive position then (which is fine by me, we need two players there) and then Spearing, Adam, Shelvey, Henderson, Gerrard, Dembele and Sigurdsson for two spots. Add that Lucas can also play there and it's a silly number of players. If we buy 3 new midfielders, I expect Shelvey (perhaps on loan for a season or two, but his chances to make it here would be greatly reduced), Spearing and Henderson or Adam to leave.

[Drinks Sangria]

My feeling's summed up right there.

Everyone is on this Tello like he's the latest Messi or something, he looks half decent and that’s about it. Would be no more inclined to buy him as I would any other fast, young winger.

Tello's a good player, if the £7m fee being thrown around is accurate, we'd be foolish not to snap him up. He is a tricky player, showed that when playing for Barca B's. Obviously the senior Barca was a huge step up for him, but it showed that they rated him. He's rapid too, and we lack pace. I feel he's got the potential to be as good as Pedro, slightly comparable within the Barca structure.

[Asam]

Would love it. But would be at least payin 50 million for all...

Dembele would cost a bomb id say. Inflated price of at least 15 million.Very good player though

True but our wage bill would be reduced so we could save money on that and of course there will be some player sales, overall I think these are exactly the type of players we should be after, now that we're getting our heads around not signing the Cavani / Hazards of this world and looking at the available options it seems to be much more realistic, this gives me cause for optimism

[Renato]

My feeling's summed up right there.

Everyone is on this Tello like he's the latest Messi or something, he looks half decent and that’s about it. Would be no more inclined to buy him as I would any other fast, young winger.

He scored 7 goals in his first 12 games for Barca and then trailed off. If he repeats anything resembling that initial form here then he would be a great success and his potential would be endless considering he's only 20.

[Cpt_Reina]

The most promising thing Ive seen from Tello is his ability to use either foot.

He looks just as likely to go outside a player on his left and play a ball across goal as he does to come inside on his right and have a pop himself.

Having that ability to keep your fullback guessing is a very good thing.

[arcticus]

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/liverpool-ofrecera-nueve-millones-por-tello-1920841

The interest of several teams in the Premier League by taking the services of FC Barcelona striker Cristian Tello is very close to formalize it. Said Monday the Daily Mail, Liverpool is willing to offer seven million pounds, almost nine million euros by the end electric Barca. The interest in 'red' by the Barca squad comes along, and the fact that economic quantities start appearing in the media is a sign that from Anfield could enter a negotiation in the coming weeks. Tello contract ends in 2013 and several teams have already called to your door. The most famous is that of Atletico Madrid, who reportedly said in an official interest in the player. From England also note that Valencia, Malaga and Benfica are other clubs interested.

[Mr Happy Squid]

Why do people want Affelay? He's complete crap!

[CharlieAdamsLeftFoot]

Tello can't half shift mind!!

[Cpt_Reina]

So sport.es are just using The Mail as their source?

[CognacBut]

Why do people want Affelay? He's complete crap!

You basing that on the Euros or have you seen enough of him at club level?

If its the 1st option then that Van Persie is a bit shite isn't he?

[subroc]

My feeling's summed up right there.

Everyone is on this Tello like he's the latest Messi or something, he looks half decent and that’s about it. Would be no more inclined to buy him as I would any other fast, young winger.

While he may not be as tricky and flair-filled as a Moura or a Hazard, Tello has a real knack for making an impact in terms of goals scored. Despite being only 20, he has already scored 3 goals in 15 La liga matches, 12 of which he was on as a sub. He scored another 2 goals in the CL despite only coming on as a sub for 3 games. He scored another 2 goals in 4 domestic cup games, 3 o fwhich he again came on as a sub. That's 7 goals despte only starting for a total of 4 games! This kid is considerably more than "any other fast, young winger"...

[brad147690]

Would be a good buy I think. Looks composed and classy on the ball.

[arcticus]

You basing that on the Euros or have you seen enough of him at club level?

If its the 1st option then that Van Persie is a bit shite isn't he?

Anyone playing for Barca can be made to look like a world beater when they aren't.

[Adam_LFC]

You basing that on the Euros or have you seen enough of him at club level?

If its the 1st option then that Van Persie is a bit shite isn't he?

I personally hope all the young potentially brilliant players have a shite tournament so we have a chance of getting them.

[CognacBut]

Anyone playing for Barca can be made to look like a world beater when they aren't.

He's not only played for Barcelona though has he.

[dakid]

He scored 7 goals in his first 12 games for Barca and then trailed off. If he repeats anything resembling that initial form here then he would be a great success and his potential would be endless considering he's only 20.

Scored 7 all season. And his first 2 came in a match in cup match which barca won 9-0. He also scored 2 when barca won 7-1 vs Bayer Leverkusen. another of his goals was scored in a league game barcelona won 5-3. Its easy to score goals when you are destroying teams which wont be happening at liverpool.

I think he is not a bad player for the price quoted but then as I said where does that leave Sterling if he is signed?

[RedGuy]

Scored 7 all season. And his first 2 came in a match in cup match which barca won 9-0. He also scored 2 when barca won 7-1 vs Bayer Leverkusen. another of his goals was scored in a league game barcelona won 5-3. Its easy to score goals when you are destroying teams which wont be happening at liverpool.

I think he is not a bad player for the price quoted but then as I said where does that leave Sterling if he is signed?

What's Sterling got to do with?

[arcticus]

Scored 7 all season. And his first 2 came in a match in cup match which barca won 9-0. He also scored 2 when barca won 7-1 vs Bayer Leverkusen. another of his goals was scored in a league game barcelona won 5-3. Its easy to score goals when you are destroying teams which wont be happening to such an extent at liverpool.

I think he is not a bad player for the price quoted but then as I said where does that leave Sterling if he is signed?

Sterling is 17!

[G8S7]

Ohh crap, i bet peopele that rate tello and Ramirez don't know a shit about them and have only seen a few YouTube videos. The hype is because the one plays for worlds best team and the other is because he is from Uruguay.

[gaijin_lfc]

Not to mention they [Tello and Sterling] play on opposite wings.

Ohh crap, i bet peopele that rate tello and Ramirez don't know a shit about them and have only seen a few YouTube videos. The hype is because the one plays for worlds best team and the other is because he is from Uruguay.

Have to say - anyone that doesn't get excited watching Tello play is a boring person. He's an electric winger, tons of pace and good quality with both feet. He's the type of player we've been lacking. We tried to fill that void over the years with the likes of Babel, but have yet to find anyone with the quality we need. Worth making him our next attempt at this position.

[iVapor]

Ohh crap, i bet peopele that rate tello and Ramirez don't know a shit about them and have only seen a few YouTube videos. The hype is because the one plays for worlds best team and the other is because he is from Uruguay.

watched nearly every game Tello has featured in

[Jeffe]

I said this in another thread today but this is the correct thread for it.

We should look at Pablo Armero. He's 25, can play both LB & LW, would cost less than £10M. We need cover/competition for Enrique + he can play as a winger just as well. He's probably faster than any of our players.

And we were linked with him a while ago.

[Heighwayondawing]

You basing that on the Euros or have you seen enough of him at club level?

If its the 1st option then that Van Persie is a bit shite isn't he?

To be fair, he's got a way to go just to get back to pre-injury form and his performance so far in Euros has shown that.

[NOTBORNIN1982]

While he may not be as tricky and flair-filled as a Moura or a Hazard, Tello has a real knack for making an impact in terms of goals scored. Despite being only 20, he has already scored 3 goals in 15 La liga matches, 12 of which he was on as a sub. He scored another 2 goals in the CL despite only coming on as a sub for 3 games. He scored another 2 goals in 4 domestic cup games, 3 o fwhich he again came on as a sub. That's 7 goals despte only starting for a total of 4 games! This kid is considerably more than "any other fast, young winger"...

4 of his goals came in 7-1 and 9-0 (Hospitalet, a Segunda B side) victories, so let's not overstate the facts.

Can anyone advise why the assumption he is betther than Sinclair and Dyer has cropped up? The kids only played a few games... is he rated on football manager or something 

Also, if he's that good... why are Barce letting him go? ***awaits Fabregas argument

By the way, he may well be absolutely amazing, just don't understand the jizz fest.

[JackWard33]

Constantly amazed by how much stock people place in Sterling - he isn't a proven 1st team player and shouldn't be thought about in transfer plans.
If he's good enough he'll become important to us but planning around him solving our '3/4 type - winger type- match winner' problem makes no sense

[Mr Happy Squid]

You basing that on the Euros or have you seen enough of him at club level?

If its the 1st option then that Van Persie is a bit shite isn't he?

Based on Euro's, Barca, Euro Qualifying, World Cup 2010, Eredivisie.

Just never been impressed with him. For every good game or moment in a game he has, he does nothing else for 5 games. Just my opinion.

But I believe there are better younger options available or currently with the club.

[mart356]

Tello is OK, nothing special, pace, good touch, two good feet, probably better than anything we have right now. A bit of one trick pony though in the sense that everytime he gets the ball, he does the same thing, which is start on the left wing and run towards the left side of the box. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. Id be willing to buy him if the fee is something reasonable like 7/8 million as he has age on his side.

[Heighwayondawing]

Constantly amazed by how much stock people place in Sterling - he isn't a proven 1st team player and shouldn't be thought about in transfer plans.
If he's good enough he'll become important to us but planning around him solving our '3/4 type - winger type- match winner' makes no sense

It's just optimism is all. We need to see players coming through and becoming successful. It gets boring cheering for imports sometimes. 

[G8S7]

Not to mention they [Tello and Sterling] play on opposite wings.<br /><br />Quote

Ohh crap, i bet peopele that rate tello and Ramirez don't know a shit about them and have only seen a few YouTube videos. The hype is because the one plays for worlds best team and the other is because he is from Uruguay.

<br /><br />Have to say - anyone that doesn't get excited watching Tello play is a boring person. He's an electric winger, tons of pace and good quality with both feet. He's the type of player we've been lacking. We tried to fill that void over the years with the likes of Babel, but have yet to find anyone with the quality we need. Worth making him our next attempt at this position.

Mate he  looks good and I like his style of play, but he has prove more its no enough with his 4-5 games. Some makes him a new messi.

[hollger]

"a wedge of trickery" I must be watching a different Tello. While he has close enough control, not amazing, his only trick is to kick the ball past the full back and run onto it.

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You must have been, as there were many times when Tello did more than just 'kick and run' past his opponent. Yes, there were times (as you say, when he was brought on against weaker/tired opposition) when he didn't need to do much more as he could make an impact doing just that, but he has demonstrated he possesses quite a technical ability. He is young and raw but shows a lot of potential, and a Barcelona education is useful to the system we're expected to adopt under Rodgers.

I'm far from his greatest fan and am in no way claiming that he is the next Messi or suchlike, but he is clearly a talented lad. Plus, he has that ridiculous pace - something our squad is lacking. For the money suggested it's far from a waste - I don't really care if we sign him or not, but if we do I won't be complaining about it. These things don't always work out (see Bojan for a similarly hyped player), but who can tell.