Topic: General Transfer Discussion about LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB

[SF Red]

Why would Barça be willing to sell Tello if he were any good?


Just a question.

Because Barca has Villa, Messi, Sanchez, Pedro, Cuenca, Afellay, and Tello for 3 positions.  They will probably pick up a striker this summer, to replace Villa, and/or they will get Neymar in the next year or two.

They may think that Tello is too good for the B side and he won't get any first team matches.  He also has only 1 year left on his contract and he may want to play.  A sale with buy-back option suits them well.

[Malaysian Kopite]

But that was different, and that was real.


This is a home grown player who they must know very well, why would they sell him before he's had a chance?

Romeu?

[DanA]

I can understand Barcelona selling Tello. He's simply too direct for them much as Arjen Robbin would be. Every time he picks up the ball he runs straight at the opposition. He's very good at it but that's simply not how Barcelona play. Pedro, Affellay and even Villa are far more team oriented options better suited to Barcelona's style, not to mention brilliant players in their own right.

[Legendary_Nines]

Doesn't make sense for Barcelona to sell Cuenca when he's just recently signed a contract extension until 2015... (in before "to up his sell on value", makes absolutely no sense to give a youth player an extra 3 years on their contract just to sell him.)

[El_Pistolero]

Doesn't make sense for Barcelona to sell Cuenca when he's just recently signed a contract extension until 2015... (in before "to up his sell on value", makes absolutely no sense to give a youth player an extra 3 years on their contract just to sell him.)

I think he's their Golden Boy, so to speak, rather than Tello.

If Tello's available then we should be in there (same with Affellay).

[Discipline]

Doesn't make sense for Barcelona to sell Cuenca when he's just recently signed a contract extension until 2015... (in before "to up his sell on value", makes absolutely no sense to give a youth player an extra 3 years on their contract just to sell him.)

They could of either up'd his value by giving him a further contract or indeed want to keep Cuenca and sell Tello. Who knows. I'll be happy with either. One of them, along with Sterling will look very promising to finally having a decent winger. 

[Didi_ram]

Why would Barça be willing to sell Tello if he were any good?


Just a question.

Because Afellay is fit now and they want to keep him,thereby reducing the time that Tello would get?
to be honest,a Barca bench player is prolly a Liverpool starter.

[L666KOP]

I can understand Barcelona selling Tello. He's simply too direct for them much as Arjen Robbin would be. Every time he picks up the ball he runs straight at the opposition. He's very good at it but that's simply not how Barcelona play. Pedro, Affellay and even Villa are far more team oriented options better suited to Barcelona's style, not to mention brilliant players in their own right.

Said this yesterday, frighteningly fast and direct.
Not what Barca are about, but would scare the living daylights out of defenders over here, I'll be honest though, not seen enough of him to judge whether he's a one trick pony like Walcott, who if we're being honest, is only a bad hamstring tear away from being Championship quality.
For his pace, and direct style at such  an early age though, he's got to be worth an 8m punt.

[L666KOP]

Signing Tello would be a huge addition to the team. I cannot see the club managing to convince him to leave barcelona though.

Ditto, I fear the biggest stumbling block will be convincing him to come to Liverpool, I'm sure he will have been well scouted, and let's face it, it won't be a big deal to the reputed 10m euro buyout.

[barnseysleftpeg]

Tello is like a force of nature and whilst I wouldn't say he's uniintelligent he doesn't appear to be as intelligent in his play as Cuenca who seems to have the ability to know the right thing to do at the right time whether it be a dribble, a pass or shot. In this respect I agree with DanA when he says Cuenca suits them more than Tello.

[barnseysleftpeg]

Said this yesterday, frighteningly fast and direct.
Not what Barca are about, but would scare the living daylights out of defenders over here, I'll be honest though, not seen enough of him to judge whether he's a one trick pony like Walcott, who if we're being honest, is only a bad hamstring tear away from being Championship quality.
For his pace, and direct style at such  an early age though, he's got to be worth an 8m punt.

tbf he's got more strings to his bow than Walcott. Tellos attributes are more in line with a Robben or Ribery i.e seriously pacy but with skills to boot or like our young Sterling.  They are all more footballers as opposed to athletes whereas Walcott is more athlete than footballer if that makes sense.

[DanA]

Said this yesterday, frighteningly fast and direct.
Not what Barca are about, but would scare the living daylights out of defenders over here, I'll be honest though, not seen enough of him to judge whether he's a one trick pony like Walcott, who if we're being honest, is only a bad hamstring tear away from being Championship quality.
For his pace, and direct style at such  an early age though, he's got to be worth an 8m punt.

I think Walcott's a good comparison. He's a little better passer than Walcott and I think has a better cross but has that same style of play. I suspect he's not quite as quick but looks it when he's on the ball. He's perhaps a more refined version of Sterling.


Edit:

Pretty much agree with above. Similar style to Walcott but more of a football and less of an athlete

[rob1408]

No mate. He is consistent. The problem with him is, he is not given enough chances at City. Comparing him with Kalou is not fair

His consistently inconsistent.

[L666KOP]

I think Walcott's a good comparison. He's a little better passer than Walcott and I think has a better cross but has that same style of play. I suspect he's not quite as quick but looks it when he's on the ball. He's perhaps a more refined version of Sterling.


Edit:

Pretty much agree with above. Similar style to Walcott but more of a football and less of an athlete

Okay ta, would his game be finished if he lost a yard of pace?
Just very dubious about buying players that need their pace to function as a footballer. Maxi is a footballer that has still retained his quality even though he's lost some of his speed.

[Baz Smythe]

Whatever happened to that Coutinho at Inter. I remember when Rafa went he looked quality but never heard from him since

[L666KOP]

His consistently inconsistent.

At the reported 16m I wouldn't go anywhere near him, he had a pay hike as well last year, he's the level above Henderson but still a couple away from Suarez.

10m and 60k a week, at best.
To be honest it's got Downing all over it, he's gonna be a risk so I definately don't want us to be spunking a great portion of our funds on him.

[DanA]

How would people feel about us getting Alvaro Perreira? I know a LB isn't first on our list of priorities but he's a quality player and seems to be angling heavily for a move and it appears Porto would be more realistic. I reckon as a utility he's be brilliant. He could play something like:
18 games as LB/WB
18 games a LW
5-10 games as a DM

[El_Pistolero]

How would people feel about us getting Alvaro Perreira? I know a LB isn't first on our list of priorities but he's a quality player and seems to be angling heavily for a move and it appears Porto would be more realistic. I reckon as a utility he's be brilliant. He could play something like:

Think he's a great player, and would enable us to get cover for LB and LW without impeding either Robbo or Sterling. If he's the right price I'd certainly be up for that.

[arcticus]

Adam Johnson and Tello for £20-25 million and our wings are sorted.

Then Gylfi and Diame for Aquilani and Spearing and our midfield is pretty much done.

So Adam Johnson, Tello, Gylfi and Diame for £30-35 million and our squad looks pretty damn good 

How would people feel about us getting Alvaro Perreira? I know a LB isn't first on our list of priorities but he's a quality player and seems to be angling heavily for a move and it appears Porto would be more realistic. I reckon as a utility he's be brilliant. He could play something like:
18 games as LB/WB
18 games a LW
5-10 games as a DM

Didn't Porto reject a £15 million bid for him from Chelsea

[eirwen]

Ditto, I fear the biggest stumbling block will be convincing him to come to Liverpool, I'm sure he will have been well scouted, and let's face it, it won't be a big deal to the reputed 10m euro buyout.

It's not about convincing him to leave. If Barca wants to sell, he'll go. And his choice seems to be between us, atletico, Valencia etc. so why not us?

[DanA]

Okay ta, would his game be finished if he lost a yard of pace?
Just very dubious about buying players that need their pace to function as a footballer. Maxi is a footballer that has still retained his quality even though he's lost some of his speed.

Not necessarily. He's not a kick and rush player but he does use his speed a lot. Seems to have a good first touch and runs at opponents much like Ronaldo does. Stepovers, tricks and faints all over the place which generall seem to work well but I wonder how much of that flashy stuff would work for him if he wasn't so quick.

[Jimmy Two Times]

Whatever happened to that Coutinho at Inter. I remember when Rafa went he looked quality but never heard from him since

Didn't play a lot at Inter but was loaned to Espanyol in January and did very well for them in the handful of game he played there.

[lionel_messias]

Yes Juve are looking to improve on Pirlo. They feel Adam would add a more dynamic edge to their midfield. Perfect for the slower Italian league. Rumour is they'll bid around 13m and that Adams head has been turned.

You are on a mad cocktail of drugs, alcohol and funny glasses.

The comedown will be brutal.

[arcticus]

Not necessarily. He's not a kick and rush player but he does use his speed a lot. Seems to have a good first touch and runs at opponents much like Ronaldo does. Stepovers, tricks and faints all over the place which generall seem to work well but I wonder how much of that flashy stuff would work for him if he wasn't so quick.

Was seeing an program about Henry's return to Arsenal this year and he was saying that he had lost a lot of pace since his time at Arsenal when he was at his peak, but his awareness was still there and the ability to think ahead of the defenders compensated for that 

So if Tello were to join us and raise his awareness a lot, I don't expect him to "suffer" if he wasn't quick

[DanA]

Adam Johnson and Tello for £20-25 million and our wings are sorted.

Then Gylfi and Diame for Aquilani and Spearing and our midfield is pretty much done.

So Adam Johnson, Tello, Gylfi and Diame for £30-35 million and our squad looks pretty damn good 
Didn't Porto reject a £15 million bid for him from Chelsea

Last year they did but Perreira seems to be pushing harder for a move this year and Chelsea aren't interested anymore with Bertrand looking pretty good.

They bought a 20 year old LB (Alex Sandro) last year for 10m Euro's and loaned out Fucile. With another year development it might be that they feel they can afford to sell Perreira and use Sandro/Fucile at left back.

[DanA]

You are on a mad cocktail of drugs, alcohol and funny glasses.

The comedown will be brutal.

I was taking the piss.

Fordy was on a rant and, heavily laced with sarcasm, I made that statement. I thought it was too obvious for anyone to take the bait obviously not.  Juve replacing Pirlo with Adam!! 

[conman]

buying up the barca youths would make sense for us. considering they wiukd understand our system more than most. next comes the physically of the league

[fefs]

And his choice seems to be between us, atletico, Valencia etc. so why not us?

Food, culture, language, family, weather

[royhendo]

Paninaro-o-o-o.

[eirwen]

Food, culture, language, family, weather

He's way too young to put those as priorities

[Jonjo Legend]

Adam Johnson and Tello for £20-25 million and our wings are sorted.

Then Gylfi and Diame for Aquilani and Spearing and our midfield is pretty much done.

So Adam Johnson, Tello, Gylfi and Diame for £30-35 million and our squad looks pretty damn good 

Not really enough goals there, plus Diame is just average. I'd go:

Romeu = 7.5m
Siggy = 7m
Sturridge = 18.5m
Ba = 7m

Two proven Premiership scorers that are capable of adding 25+ goals between them, A tiki-taka tactical managers wet dream of a DC/DM with a playing style and stats that actually rival the great Lucas Levia and Siggy of course - who just so happens to know Demba Ba well because they played (and even roomed) together while at Hoffenheim.

Now THAT'S a fucking plan. You'll see no better in this entire thread. Might as well just lock it now actually  Thank you!

[Henry Chinaski]

Are Newcastle playing European football next season? If not, we should seriously have a look at their mouth-watering midfield (Tioté, Cabaye, Ben Arfa) and strikeforce. Sorry if this has been mentioned already 200 pages back.

[CraigDS]

Ba had a good 6 months for Newcastle and scored 1 league goal since 4th Jan. We've seen lots of players have great (short lived) purple patches - like Zaki who scored 10 in 15 and who was the other one around the same time we were also linked with. Neither went on to do anything.

[Henry Chinaski]

Ba had a good 6 months for Newcastle and scored 1 league goal since 4th Jan.

If I remember correctly, he played a lot on the left though, with Cissé being the main striker.

[eirwen]

Judging by how our last transfer went, I don't think we should buy anyone from Newcastle. Unless it's their scouting team.

[RivaGe]

Not really enough goals there, plus Diame is just average. I'd go:

Romeu = 7.5m
Siggy = 7m
Sturridge = 18.5m
Ba = 7m

Two proven Premiership scorers that are capable of adding 25+ goals between them, A tiki-taka tactical managers wet dream of a DC/DM with a playing style and stats that actually rival the great Lucas Levia and Siggy of course - who just so happens to know Demba Ba well because they played (and even roomed) together while at Hoffenheim.

Now THAT'S a fucking plan. You'll see no better in this entire thread. Might as well just lock it now actually  Thank you!

Are you fucking kidding?..

[rob1408]

At the reported 16m I wouldn't go anywhere near him, he had a pay hike as well last year, he's the level above Henderson but still a couple away from Suarez.

10m and 60k a week, at best.
To be honest it's got Downing all over it, he's gonna be a risk so I definately don't want us to be spunking a great portion of our funds on him.

Completely agree.

[Lille Camille]

So Adam Johnson, Tello, Gylfi and Diame for £30-35 million and our squad looks pretty damn good 

So ambitious.

[greenstien]

Are you fucking kidding?..

Is that not the going rate of an english player on the last year of his contract who spent all season moaning about playing in the position we are after him for?

[markthescouser]

Not really enough goals there, plus Diame is just average. I'd go:

Romeu = 7.5m

Is Romeu available? Every time I've seen him he's looked quality, why would they want to sell?