Topic: General Transfer Discussion about LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB

[Bob Loblaw]

Adam is a deep laying CM while AA is CM or AM.

Two totally different positions.

You should know this mate.

It's funny because you genuinely believe it.

[Cpt_Reina]

Adam is a deep laying CM while AA is CM or AM.

Two totally different positions.

You should know this mate.

Adam is not a deep lying CM.

Not in a Rodgers team. He cant tackle, cant press, cant keep the ball and has little to no awareness of what's around him.

Aquilani is much more a CM in a Rodgers system than Adams would be.

You should know this.

Under Rodgers he's much more suited to playing further up field. Which puts him in to conflict with Gerrard and Sigurdsson (if he arrives). He's not as good as either.

[aoaaron]

You can easily compare AA and Adam, they play similar enough positions to have one or the other in the team. In saying that, I'd rather have Adam.

I'd rather have Adam in Kenny's system.

Under Rodgers, I feel Adam will be terribly frustrating along with Carragher and possibly Gerrard. Lacks patience on the ball and slickness in possession which Lucas, Agger, Henderson, Suarez have. We're stuck with Carra due to wages, Gerrard makes up for his lack of patience with being our best midfielder but Adam does not do enough.

[Camarero25]

Adam is a deep laying CM while AA is CM or AM.

Two totally different positions.

You should know this mate.

He's shocking as a deep lying CM because his defensive work is awful. He certainly didn't play that role at Blackpool, where he was at his best.

[KirkVanHouten]

Aquilani for all appearances looks incredibly talented, I can't understand both Kenny and Rafa having an aversion to using him. There has to be something we outside of the club can't see, there is simply no other explanation. Except maybe there could be add ons to the fee for Roma for appearances that's the only thing I can think of and that seems a bit too conspiracy theory crazy for me.

[fefs]

When did this turn into the "Which Liverpool player do you hate the most" thread ?

[iVapor]

No, I would not have sacked Kenny.  There are reasons why we performed so poorly last year and I'd have expected us to perform much better next season even if Kenny was still in charge.  Our first team is very strong.

Reina
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique
Lucas Henderson
Gerrard
Suarez         Downing
Carroll

That is a top four side right there, even with a couple of weaknesses (Henderson, young and still learning; Downing, not got the psychological make-up necessary). I'd back that team to be able to take on any of the top six sides and win - which we did last year.  What lets us down is our squad players are not able to come into the side and perform at same level.

Missing Lucas was massive for us the second half of the season.  I was shocked we didn't buy someone in January and we don't know who was to blame for that, Kenny, Comolli or FSG.

What do you want me to watch? Players going around him like he isn't there, or him clumsily bringing them to the ground...?

Adam has good attributes to his game, particularly the fact that he is not afraid to try a difficult pass which can sometimes unlock defences, but his defending is diabolical.  I wouldn't mind him being used as a squad player next year, but equally, I'd be more than happy to sell him.

Wouldnt agree, if you compare that team to any of the top 5 teams this year, ours is the worst. If Downing/Hendo were replace by really top players then yes. Hendo to the bench used in rotation and Downing in the bin

[KirkVanHouten]

When did this turn into the "Which Liverpool player do you hate the most" thread ?

Yeah I know hating the shit out of player and constant abuse is what the player threads are for aren't they?

[amir87]

Adam is a deep laying CM

Yup, you're definitely smacked off your tits.

[Fordy]

Adam is not a deep lying CM.

Not in a Rodgers team. He cant tackle, cant press, cant keep the ball and has little to no awareness of what's around him.

Aquilani is much more a CM in a Rodgers system than Adams would be.

You should know this.

Under Rodgers he's much more suited to playing further up field. Which puts him in to conflict with Gerrard and Sigurdsson (if he arrives). He's not as good as either.

Under a Rodger's team. We can only guess how Rodgers will play.

Never said Adam would start - said Adam is deep laying CM - which he is.

What you have written is a total guess.

Carroll might as well pack his bags then cause under a Rogers team he stands no chance of being a part of Liverpool FC.

[dast18]

Yup, you're definitely smacked off your tits.

  

[Camarero25]

Wouldnt agree, if you compare that team to any of the top 5 teams this year, ours is the worst. If Downing/Hendo were replace by really top players then yes. Hendo to the bench used in rotation and Downing in the bin

Are people entirely convinced by Carroll now? I've seen a lot of posts with him unquestionably in our first team line up, but I still think we badly need a first choice striker. I'd be very uncomfortable going into next season relying on him for goals, despite his improvement towards the end of last year.

[rastaferio]

Adam is a deep laying CM while AA is CM or AM.

Two totally different positions.

You should know this mate.

Well, if you know so much about Aquilani, then you'd know that he was deployed as a deep-lying playmaker while at Juve.

[Fordy]

Well, if you know so much about Aquilani, then you'd know that he was deployed as a deep-lying playmaker while at Juve.

Juve was years ago and guess what....They didn't want him.

[aoaaron]

Under a Rodger's team. We can only guess how Rodgers will play.

Never said Adam would start - said Adam is deep laying CM - which he is.

What you have written is a total guess.

Carroll might as well pack his bags then cause under a Rogers team he stands no chance of being a part of Liverpool FC.

He is not a deep lying CM.

A deep lying midfielder is like Alonso, Pirlo. You very rarely see them around the penalty box. They'll stay back and pull the strings, keeping the ball, winning the ball and spreading it to the wings. However, Adam due to his poor positional sense you can see practically anywhere on the pitch depending on how tired he is or not.

Adam for me is a central midfielder who can knock off a very good pass from time to time. If anything, I'd say Adam is better further forward away from the defensive duties of a deeplying playmaker.

[Cpt_Reina]

Under a Rodger's team. We can only guess how Rodgers will play.

Never said Adam would start - said Adam is deep laying CM - which he is.

What you have written is a total guess.

Carroll might as well pack his bags then cause under a Rogers team he stands no chance of being a part of Liverpool FC.

He isn't though, is he. What about Adam suggests he can play there to you? His ability to hit 1 successful long pass in 3? An 'ability' that is largely redundant in a Rodgers team.

[Get]

Yup, you're definitely smacked off your tits.

 

[Fordy]

He isn't though, is he. What about Adam suggests he can play there to you? His ability to hit 1 successful long pass in 3? An 'ability' that is largely redundant in a Rodgers team.

You keep on bashing on about a Rodger's team.

We don't know how Rodger's will play at Liverpool.

You're guessing.

[aoaaron]

No, I would not have sacked Kenny.  There are reasons why we performed so poorly last year and I'd have expected us to perform much better next season even if Kenny was still in charge.  Our first team is very strong.

Reina
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique
Lucas Henderson
Gerrard
Suarez         Downing
Carroll

That is a top four side right there, even with a couple of weaknesses (Henderson, young and still learning; Downing, not got the psychological make-up necessary). I'd back that team to be able to take on any of the top six sides and win - which we did last year.  What lets us down is our squad players are not able to come into the side and perform at same level.

Missing Lucas was massive for us the second half of the season.  I was shocked we didn't buy someone in January and we don't know who was to blame for that, Kenny, Comolli or FSG.

What do you want me to watch? Players going around him like he isn't there, or him clumsily bringing them to the ground...?

Adam has good attributes to his game, particularly the fact that he is not afraid to try a difficult pass which can sometimes unlock defences, but his defending is diabolical.  I wouldn't mind him being used as a squad player next year, but equally, I'd be more than happy to sell him.

Its a top six side. Henderson, Downing and Carroll are big big weaknesses over a whole season. I have faith in all three to eventually show the goods eventually, especially Henderson and Carroll, but that first XI is not better than Spurs or Arsenal.

I have a lingering worry about Enrique's severe drop in form near the end of season too. I understand he was fantastic for the first half, not so good for the second for whatever reason but top class LBs have maybe 2-3 games sub-par, not a month or two.

[DanA]

Juve was years again and guess what....They didn't want him.

Agreed. Adam on the other hand, Juve are formulating a plan to pinch him off us.

[aoaaron]

You keep on bashing on about a Rodger's team.

We don't know how Rodger's will play at Liverpool.

You're guessing.

Would you say Adam is better than Alonso or better than Mascherano or mix of both them?

[Fordy]

He is not a deep lying CM.

A deep lying midfielder is like Alonso, Pirlo. You very rarely see them around the penalty box. They'll stay back and pull the strings, keeping the ball, winning the ball and spreading it to the wings. However, Adam due to his poor positional sense you can see practically anywhere on the pitch depending on how tired he is or not.

Totally disagree with that.

[KirkVanHouten]

Are people entirely convinced by Carroll now? I've seen a lot of posts with him unquestionably in our first team line up, but I still think we badly need a first choice striker. I'd be very uncomfortable going into next season relying on him for goals, despite his improvement towards the end of last year.

I'm not sure about needing a first choice striker because Suarez may be deployed as a striker and Carroll as back up. People will probably say that Suarez struggled as a striker last year but I think in a front 3 he wouldn't be so isolated and we wouldn't have a problem. However we absolutely must buy a striker and a Winger because we don't have enough players to cover a front three. Our options are Maxi, Suarez, Downing, Sterling and Carroll as a striker, that is almost pathetic if we're aspiring to be in the top 4.

[rastaferio]

You keep on bashing on about a Rodger's team.

We don't know how Rodger's will play at Liverpool.

You're guessing.

It's rather unlikely that he'll change his philosophy just because he's got a new club to manage

[Cpt_Reina]

You keep on bashing on about a Rodger's team.

We don't know how Rodger's will play at Liverpool.

You're guessing.

And you're clutching at straws.

Adam doesnt fit anywhere.

[Get]

Agreed. Adam on the other hand, Juve are formulating a plan to pinch him off us.

Xavi is getting older, Cesc doesn't look like a man for the job and they are looking for a replacement.

I heard a big bid coming in after the euros

sources close to Adam say he would be tempted by a move

[Fordy]

Would you say Adam is better than Alonso or better than Mascherano or mix of both them?

No Adam isn't better than Alonso far from it.

Can't compare him to Mash.

I can compare Lucas to both and I would say that Alonso and Mash are better than Lucas.

[rastaferio]

Agreed. Adam on the other hand, Juve are formulating a plan to pinch him off us.

Pardon? Juve are formulating a plan to pinch Adam? Please, elaborate

[amir87]

Adam doesnt fit anywhere.

A bit harsh to bring his size into it.

[Get]

No Adam isn't better than Alonso far from it.

Can't compare him to Mash.

I can compare Lucas to both and I would say that Alonso and Mash are better than Lucas.

Lucas at the end of the next season will be better than both of them.

[RichardM]

Guys, Charlie Adam is a Liverpool player. The team we 'support'. Can we please leave the player bashing to the Chelsea fans?

We have no real inclination as to whether he'll thrive or struggle in Brendan's team so let's just leave it at that and actually talk about potential transfers in the General Transfer thread.


Thanks.

[Aristotle]

Juve was years ago and guess what....They didn't want him.

No it wasn't. It was the fact that they wanted Andrea Pirlo more. You know, arguably the best in that position of the century. Hell I'd bet that given the choice Aquilani himself would take Pirlo in the starting line up ahead of himself.

Turns out, wasn't too bad a decision.


And him not signing for Milan might also have something to do with the fact that they are fucked in terms of FFP and need to get rid of players. That is, unless you see Seedorf, Nesta, Gattuso, Inzaghi and (potentially) Zlatan and Robinho as your bottom feeding amateurs not worth having around.

[Fordy]

Lucas at the end of the next season will be better than both of them.

Oh really?

Keep kidding yourself mate.

[Rojo O Muerto]

You keep on bashing on about a Rodger's team.

We don't know how Rodger's will play at Liverpool.

You're guessing.

All the articles on the official website talking about Tika-Taka, the countless interviews discussing Rodgers philosophy, Rodgers own words on how he likes to set his teams up.

But yes you're right, we don't know how he's going to want us playing.

[-Daws-]

Lucas, Henderson and Aquilani are all shite. Charlie Adam is quality.

Funny

[Severely]

Adam is no deep lying CM. He has never played in that position. He played an almost free role in midfield at Blackpool, and when he played in a midfield two for us, he showed poor positional awareness, relying heavily on Lucas for defensive cover, and his season went to hell when Lucas got injured. A deep lying CM needs to be able to dictate a game and be able to read a game well, knowing when to force play and when to keep possession. Adam showed none of that in-game intelligence, and was a defensive liability who was often too slow in getting rid of the ball as well. I think he's a good option when we're chasing a game, or having trouble break a team down, because he's so direct, but he is definitely, unequivocally unsuited to a deep role.

We need one of those midfield generals desperately I think. More than a goal scorer I would argue.

[Fordy]

No it wasn't. It was the fact that they wanted Andrea Pirlo more. You know, arguably the best in that position of the century. Hell I'd bet that given the choice Aquilani himself would take Pirlo in the starting line up ahead of himself.

Turns out, wasn't too bad a decision.


And him not signing for Milan might also have something to do with the fact that they are fucked in terms of FFP and need to get rid of players. That is, unless you see Seedorf, Nesta, Gattuso, Inzaghi and (potentially) Zlatan and Robinho as your bottom feeding amateurs not worth having around.

As I have said I would rather us keep him than sign Sig.

But let's see the que of teams wanting to sign AA in the summer then.

If Milan want him then they would sign him no matter of fair play rules.

[Get]

Oh really?

Keep kidding yourself mate.

Said the lunatic who believes charlie adam will be a vital member of the squad next season.

[Cpt_Reina]

Recent pic of Fordy upon his assertion that we dont know how Rodgers will set his team up.

[DanA]

Pardon? Juve are formulating a plan to pinch Adam? Please, elaborate

Yes Juve are looking to improve on Pirlo. They feel Adam would add a more dynamic edge to their midfield. Perfect for the slower Italian league. Rumour is they'll bid around 13m and that Adams head has been turned.