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Re: New Kit
« Reply #240 on: May 12, 2012, 10:14:00 AM »
When did Gareth Barry and, more strangely, Andrew Flintoff, sign for us?

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Re: New Kit
« Reply #241 on: May 12, 2012, 10:18:14 AM »
The year after, the Premier League badges will be gold too. Just put up with it for a year. ;)
There'll be a new kit by then ;)
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #242 on: May 12, 2012, 10:33:21 AM »
Thats NOT how it works.

So you're telling me that if someone who previously stocked our kit (Adidas stockist) now wanted to stock our new one, they couldn't approach Warrior (or their distributor) and ask to stock it once again? Although the answer to them may well be they can but also have to stock some other Warrior goods.

I own 5 retail (clothing) stores, all be it not sports, and that is exactly how it would work for us. If it's not the case for sports how is it?
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #243 on: May 12, 2012, 10:37:34 AM »
I like the simplicity and traditionality of the design. Looks like something from the Shankly days. Also love the fact they added the 96 on the back. Excited for next season already now lol.
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #244 on: May 12, 2012, 10:39:49 AM »
So you're telling me that if someone who previously stocked our kit (Adidas stockist) now wanted to stock our new one, they couldn't approach Warrior (or their distributor) and ask to stock it once again? Although the answer to them may well be they can but also have to stock some other Warrior goods.

I own 5 retail (clothing) stores, all be it not sports, and that is exactly how it would work for us. If it's not the case for sports how is it?

The usual suspects are advertising the new shirt albeit without pics as it would appear that the club has exclusive use of the image until 1st June.

http://www.sportsdirect.com/football-shirts/premier-league-football-shirts/liverpool-football-shirts

http://www.jjbsports.com/premiership-liverpool-football-kits-home-kit/football/fcp-category/list?resetFilters=true#filters=wc_brand-jjb!warrior

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Re: New Kit
« Reply #245 on: May 12, 2012, 10:42:49 AM »
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #246 on: May 12, 2012, 10:45:44 AM »
Not really a fan of it, but largely ambivalent with kits. Having said that, this doesn't particularly appeal to me, think the collar looks shit. (Especially the GK strip.) Hopefully the away kit is better.
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #247 on: May 12, 2012, 10:52:18 AM »
So you're telling me that if someone who previously stocked our kit (Adidas stockist) now wanted to stock our new one, they couldn't approach Warrior (or their distributor) and ask to stock it once again? Although the answer to them may well be they can but also have to stock some other Warrior goods.

I own 5 retail (clothing) stores, all be it not sports, and that is exactly how it would work for us. If it's not the case for sports how is it?

Wasn't what i said either.

What you said was retailers will go approach Warrior and Warrior will make them stock a whole load of other range.

What happened was Warrior approached us, and i presume any retailer worth their salt. Then the retailer/buyers decide if they want to stock them depending on a whole lot of other factors as well.

I probably get what you are trying to say though, coming from Warrior's perspective. What happened in this part of the world though, there were prominent retail chains who chose not to carry Warrior stuff, as there are other factors that come into play.

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Re: New Kit
« Reply #248 on: May 12, 2012, 11:15:32 AM »
i think this is our best kit for a very, very long time.

is it available without the sponsor logo?

i don't mind paying more to have it without.

would like to get one for the wee man and myself.

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Re: New Kit
« Reply #249 on: May 12, 2012, 11:19:45 AM »
Seeing it now, I have to admit I really like it. The badge fills my heart with joy. :)

me too big man.  i only ever by lfc kits as presents - rob got 'fastso 00' one year - but this is a must have ;D

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Re: New Kit
« Reply #250 on: May 12, 2012, 11:20:06 AM »
i think this is our best kit for a very, very long time.


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Re: New Kit
« Reply #251 on: May 12, 2012, 11:20:38 AM »
Sorry to sound all arty ... but the red WILL appear to look more orange and warm and that's because all the motifs and lettering are yellow.  It's a slight trick of the eye.

Oh, and I'll say it now ..... the blue Prem badges that they'll wear on the side will totally ruin the effect.

All 3 primary colours in one place should NEVER be seen!

Like I said ... sorry to be arty but I am a graphic designer.

I think this one's reasonably well-received.




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Re: New Kit
« Reply #252 on: May 12, 2012, 11:35:28 AM »
After getting used to the lack of white in the shirt, it is growing on me and I think I'll be buying it once it comes out (I want to try on before choosing the size). Shame we've had this argument it really shouldn't be that way but that's for another thread.

Love the return of the Liverbird.

On the subject of worldwide distribution, from my personal experience abroad (and in England) Adidas have never given us the prominence we deserve, usually I'll find our shirts in the corner in a single rail while others (Chelsea and others) have a big presence.

Warrior have not paid this money for nothing - they want to grow their brand in the UK, Europe and worldwide, so I'm pretty sure they will pull out all the stops to get the shirts into the sports shops. It may take a few months before this is done but Im sure the malls in Mumbai will have these by the time the new season starts.
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #253 on: May 12, 2012, 11:48:35 AM »
I like it a lot, but I really fear what the Premier League badges are gonna do to it... and others share my fear, I can see.
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #254 on: May 12, 2012, 11:48:52 AM »
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Re: Warrior's sales approach
« Reply #255 on: May 12, 2012, 11:49:00 AM »
With all the euphoria over the new kit (and rightly so, it looks boss) it just got me thinking about how Warrior and/or the club aim to sell these.

Now, when we had a tie up with Adidas, we made use of their franchise stores worldwide, and that got us a lot of sales. But the last time I checked, Warrior, or any of their subsidiaries, don't have any such stores worldwide.

Just a little example. I live in India, and in my city (Bangalore) alone, there are about 15 Adidas stores which sell Liverpool merchandise, including the kit. The home kit sold at Rs. 3000 (roughly 35 quid). Now if I were to order it online, including shipping and handling, it comes up to about Rs.5200. Now that's a huge difference. I mean I'll still buy it, but there are a lot of people who'll be put off by it. And not every fan has access to online shopping.

A fan club here asked Warrior Football on Twitter how they're gonna market their merchandise in this part of the world, and they said something along the lines of we're working on it, we'll let you know soon.

My only worry is this will not only reduce the number of shirt sales, but will also encourage people to buy cheaper knock-offs. You can get cheaper, local ones here for Rs. 350 ( about 4 pounds). And a lot of people will end up buying those instead as it's easier to buy rather than order online, which really hasn't caught on that much. Yet.

Either way, the club will end up losing revenue. Have Warrior made any announcement regarding this?

P.S. Sorry if this has already been covered in another thread

I don't know about the rest of the planet but the UK doesnt have "adidas stores". Sports stores generally stock items from most or all major manufacturers. Adidas/nike etc may pay to have their items more prominently positioned within the stores but generally will always stock a wide range of prem shirts.
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #256 on: May 12, 2012, 11:51:42 AM »
Just been in the shop to see and feel it. Looks stunning but I can see what some are saying about the material. It's abit strange for a footy top, more like a tshirt/soft polo shirt material, still fucking love it though.

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Re: New Kit
« Reply #257 on: May 12, 2012, 11:52:49 AM »
Maybe not the thread for this

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Re: New Kit
« Reply #258 on: May 12, 2012, 12:00:58 PM »
Swerve taking it off-topic.

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Re: New Kit
« Reply #259 on: May 12, 2012, 12:03:12 PM »
So would Lebron James be allowed to be seen wearing this kit? 

Or are we going to have other kits/training gear without the Warrior logo on?

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Re: New Kit
« Reply #260 on: May 12, 2012, 12:06:19 PM »
I brought this up in the original thread when someone mentioned they wanted to get players names and patches on the top? FFS why would you vandalise it in such away.

I said it before, anyone over 16 looking for all that on their top needs to have a look at themselves

Not getting anything on the shirt personally mate, last name I got on a shirt was Torres when we had the white away kit with the red slashes on the sides.

Getting a name on this would ruin it.
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #261 on: May 12, 2012, 12:09:29 PM »
Just been in the shop to see and feel it. Looks stunning but I can see what some are saying about the material. It's abit strange for a footy top, more like a tshirt/soft polo shirt material, still fucking love it though.
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #262 on: May 12, 2012, 12:15:21 PM »
Not getting anything on the shirt personally mate, last name I got on a shirt was Torres when we had the white away kit with the red slashes on the sides.

Getting a name on this would ruin it.

Wasn't suggesting you were, just agreeing with you.

Just been in the shop to see and feel it. Looks stunning but I can see what some are saying about the material. It's abit strange for a footy top, more like a tshirt/soft polo shirt material, still fucking love it though.

This is probably why I'm considering buying it, normally I would've bought official gear but not replica kits, just though you look like a mump in shiny repilca tops. This has a nice classy polo look to it.

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Re: New Kit
« Reply #263 on: May 12, 2012, 12:15:36 PM »
Anyone have any idea about how the hem hangs when not tucked in?

Is it just flat like a normal teeshirt or is a there a profile to it like some nike kits have where it hangs lower at the back?

If you know what I mean.....  :o
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #264 on: May 12, 2012, 12:37:54 PM »
Didn't know what size to order as I am a 40" chest. Says on the size guide 38-40 is Medium and 41-44 is Large. Not knowing how slim Warrior gear fits, I didn't want to take the risk and ordered a Large. Hope it's not mega baggy though.
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Re: Warrior's sales approach
« Reply #265 on: May 12, 2012, 12:42:48 PM »
I don't know about the rest of the planet but the UK doesnt have "adidas stores". Sports stores generally stock items from most or all major manufacturers. Adidas/nike etc may pay to have their items more prominently positioned within the stores but generally will always stock a wide range of prem shirts.

What?

There is one if L1 first of all, floor below the LFC Official Shop but on the opposite side, secondly most major cities have one, London has 2 that I can recall, branded adidas which only sell adidas stuff, sorry mate but there are adidas only stores, there are Nike only stores and so on.
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Re: Warrior's sales approach
« Reply #266 on: May 12, 2012, 12:49:48 PM »
What?

There is one if L1 first of all, floor below the LFC Official Shop but on the opposite side, secondly most major cities have one, London has 2 that I can recall, branded adidas which only sell adidas stuff, sorry mate but there are adidas only stores, there are Nike only stores and so on.

ok, Accept that you know better than me in that respect, however they are in a massive minority here. But there is no reason at all why distribution of Warrior stuff in this country would be an issue is there ?

Sports Direct are advertising the new kit already and there are 2 sports direct stores withing 20 minutes of me.
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #267 on: May 12, 2012, 12:52:37 PM »
http://discover.adidas.co.uk/storefinder/#/search/uk/

The UK has literally dozens of adidas stores.
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #268 on: May 12, 2012, 12:55:18 PM »
http://discover.adidas.co.uk/storefinder/#/search/uk/

The UK has literally hundreds of adidas stores.

Yup. Hundreds there.

I'd imagine Nike have hundreds too.

I'm finding it difficult to see how I don't walk from my front door and into an adidas store.

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Re: New Kit
« Reply #269 on: May 12, 2012, 12:56:49 PM »
OK, edited. There are three adidas stores I can think of within 15 minutes drive of my house though. I live in Birkenhead, and there is one at Cheshire Oaks, and two in Liverpool city centre.
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Re: New Kit
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #271 on: May 12, 2012, 01:02:22 PM »
What's your point mate?

That the dude who said that the UK didn't have any was mistaken.

Don't really think it's that important either way, myself. I would imagine that the vast majority of shirt sales these days are either online or in general high street sports shops. Can't imagine that that many people went to adidas stores to buy the old kit anyway.
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #272 on: May 12, 2012, 01:05:43 PM »
ok, Accept that you know better than me in that respect, however they are in a massive minority here. But there is no reason at all why distribution of Warrior stuff in this country would be an issue is there ?

Sports Direct are advertising the new kit already and there are 2 sports direct stores withing 20 minutes of me.

Fair enough, mate, but I was talking about Asia in general, and India in particular. Was wondering how they're gonna distribute merchandise in this part of the world, seeing as how they don't have their own stores or have any ties to local retailers. And if they're thinking about making inroads here, they better do it fast. I honestly don't think without a good distribution network in the rest of the world, besides North America, and Europe, where shopping online isn't an issue, we won't sell the 4th highest number of replica kits, the way we're doing currently with Adidas. Again, not referring to the domestic market in the UK, as I'm not exactly familiar with it. Right now, if I wanna go buy a Liverpool home kit, I just walk into an Adidas store and buy it. But from June 1st, there's no store in the entire country that will sell an authentic Liverpool replica kit. That's my point. A lot of walk-in sales do take place around here.
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #273 on: May 12, 2012, 01:09:04 PM »
I think what I probably should of said was that the uk doesnt rely on manufacturer stores as the chap from India seemed to be suggesting may cause him a problem. Assuming multi supplier chain stores are in the minority there if what he says is true.
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #274 on: May 12, 2012, 01:09:50 PM »
That the dude who said that the UK didn't have any was mistaken.

Don't really think it's that important either way, myself. I would imagine that the vast majority of shirt sales these days are either online or in general high street sports shops. Can't imagine that that many people went to adidas stores to buy the old kit anyway.

Agree - I highly doubt Adidas sold many football tops. The likes of JB, JJB, Sports Direct etc would sell more.

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Re: New Kit
« Reply #275 on: May 12, 2012, 01:12:20 PM »
Ordered the short sleeve kit with shelvey on the back. Going to look ace!!
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #276 on: May 12, 2012, 01:13:40 PM »
Liverpool launch new kit across social

Last night saw Liverpool FC launch their new kit.  Actually it was more than a new kit launch as it saw the dawn of a new era in terms of their kit with new manufacturers ’Warrior’ – a US company founded by a former Lacrosse player, acquired by sports giant New Balance in 2004.

This is their first foray into football with their specialism coming from lacrosse (obviously) and ice hockey.  So it was always going to be important to shake off the shackles of previous incumbents adidas, who had been making the kits since 2006, by making the first kit launch an impressive one.

So, aside from the usual press release and pictures, what did they do in the social media space?  Here is what Paul Rogers, LFC’s Head of Content and long-term friend of the site, told UKSN (there are more quotes throughout the article too);

“When we sat down to work out our content plan around the ‘reveal’ of the new LFC kit, social media was at the forefront of our thinking. We know from past experience that kit reveals generate enormous excitement amongst fans and we wanted to reach out to and engage with as many supporters as possible when the clock struck midnight.

With our last  kit launch in the summer of 2011, we used our own official website, TV channel, Twitter and Facebook accounts to create a buzz but even in 12 months, things have moved on a lot. This time around, we were keen to maximise the reach of all of our social media channels including our new YouTube channel as well as Pinterest and Tumblr”

 

YouTube

The club and Warrior launched the usual video to accompany the launch showing some behind the scenes shots of the photo shoot, interviews/quotes from players and pictures of the new kit.  The players appear to be happy with it (no surprise there) as it brings back the gold into the kit so its a bit of a throwback to the 1970′s/1980′s in that sense.  It also appeals to the die-hard fans with a tribute to the 96 fans who lost their lives in the Hillsborough Distaster in 1989 with the inclusion of the number on the back of the shirt.

Interestingly in the video it shows an integration with a bigger campaign by the inclusion of the #LFCkit tag, encouraging fans to talk about it on twitter and talk to other fans. So far the video has gained 61k views since its launch at midnight last night.

The new kit sponsors also released their own video showcasing their ‘expect us’ activation today as the push to link the club and brand starts with a vengeance.  It is pretty cool and offered a teaser to the fans as they walked past the ground by projecting images of the players and the brand tag line onto a wall.  With £25m a year being paid to the club we can expect much more of this with a hefty marketing spend to back it up.

Twitter

The #LFCkit tag has been used many times and was reported to have trended in Liverpool after the midnight kit launch, showing fans were anxious to show their feelings (mostly good) about the kit.  It’s always a sensitive time for clubs when it comes to such a major change in design, as has been shown recently by Cardiff City’s plans to change from blue to red (something that was retracted after the predictable fan outrage).

As of 9am this morning there had been some 12,972 tweets using the hashtag.  Something that will taken as great success by those involved.  This was all before it had been picked up by the press or blogs so this number will increase significantly as news travels past the city walls of Liverpool.  The club also posted a new image on their Twitter background which showed the kit and, once again, the #LFCkit hashtag. (stats below taken using MAP).

“We went big on a dedicated twitter hashtag #lfckit – which we promoted across multiple sites, not just on Twitter – and it worked very well as it was trending worldwide soon after midnight” said Paul.

Pinterest

As part of the clubs push onto new platforms, of which Pinterest has been a focal point for the last few months.  The new launch was an ideal opportunity to make use of this highly visual platform with pictures from the launch event as well as the video being posted on their.  This gives fans another of many touch points where they can find information about the kit as well as links to the club store.

“As the reveal of any new kit is a very visual experience, we changed our facebook Cover photo and Twitter background to showcase the new kit and used both Pinterest and Tumblr to showcase some amazing images of the players for fans to share.”

Facebook

Finally, the club used their long established Facebook page to bring the imagery (and store links) to the fans.  With just under 10m fans on the page the reach would have been pretty wide and with the late night timing of the launch, the majority of fans would be able to get their first taste of what they are going to see on the pitch in August when they checked their Facebook this morning.

The use of cover photo’s as a way of bringing a highly visual approach to campaigns is something we have already highlighted here but it also provides a picture that fans can upload and use as their own cover photo.  Something a friend of mine did this morning.  There was no big tease as we saw with Rangers but there was no shortage of likes, shares and comments on each post.

Tumblr

Last, but not least (though originally left off from this post! – ed) was the inclusion of the clubs Tumblr page to provide more visuals to those who have subscribed to their page in their news feed.  The page is still quite new and it will certainly boost the number of people heading their page.

What else?

“On our website, we asked fans to mark the kit out of 10 – and so far we’ve had just short of 20,000 votes with a score of 10 coming out on top with 25% of the votes, with 74% of all fans voting for 7 or higher. To encourage engagement with fans, we’ve picked out 20 of the best tweets about the kit and embedded them in a news story on the official site – which lots of fans appreciate as fans all over the world can quickly follow them via the news story.”

Summary

The approach was that of hitting as many touch points as possible.  At the end of the day it about raising awareness, gaining coverage and selling kit (at the moment through pre-orders).  It has not been anything new or spectacular but shows good use of all the platforms at the same time, an integrated approach which proves that departments within the clubs – and the new sponsors – are talking to each other and working together as one.  Something very simple but often not achieved.

“It’s been an exciting launch so far, created a great deal of excitement and we’re on target to break the record for the number of pre-order sales on day one. In terms of exclusive content, we’ve got loads more kit-related videos planned for the coming days and weeks.”

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Offline ScouserAtHeart

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Re: New Kit
« Reply #277 on: May 12, 2012, 01:16:29 PM »
I think what I probably should of said was that the uk doesnt rely on manufacturer stores as the chap from India seemed to be suggesting may cause him a problem. Assuming multi supplier chain stores are in the minority there if what he says is true.

We don't have any multi-supplier stores, at least for sporting goods.
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Re: New Kit
« Reply #278 on: May 12, 2012, 01:28:06 PM »
The new kit is fine. Quite ordinary. Safe.

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Re: New Kit
« Reply #279 on: May 12, 2012, 01:39:17 PM »
Love the new shirt but shorts way to baggy! (except on Cole)
It's probably hoped that the shorts will sell more to be worn with separate T-shirt, socks, etc.