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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1040 on: May 5, 2012, 10:10:27 PM »
someone should ask him how he got so shit recently? it's a bit shocking going from one of the players of the season to shockingly bad

Exhausted and burnt out a bit? I dunno...all I know now is that I shouldn't have worn my Jose Enrique kit today. 

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1041 on: May 5, 2012, 10:10:49 PM »
Had such a good feeling about today. That faded after about 5 minutes. We were a shambles.
There's not much to say beyond what was said on page 1 of this thread. 1st hour bad. Last 30 good.
I've been in a shocker of a mood all season, but at the end of this I was weirdly upbeat. Still am.
Why? Because one final loss doesn't dint the fact we're the most successful English club side.
And, more importantly, we have a future. Carroll proved today he is up to the task, and a few others –
whilst they didn't excel – gained huge experience. Look ahead, we have a spine of a great young side.
Downing isn't part of it, and I don't count Spearing in it necessarily, but we WILL come good. Sleep easy
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Well said.  I'm feeling surprising positive.  I think because I know that one final defeat doesn't define our future.  We have improved since Hodgson (despite what a load of the others on this board say).  Get Lucas back, add a couple of good providers, blood in the likes of Sterling etc and push the team to provide more first time crosses.  Give it time people.  There are reasons to be positive.

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1042 on: May 5, 2012, 10:14:04 PM »
Kenny can be hanged for a few things this season, but the idea that Andy Carroll would have played with the same desire and determination had he started rather than coming on, chasing a final, 2 goals down is very harsh on KK. The midfield selection was a shocker.

Given the injuries we have I agreed with the starting 11. Fact is you can't pin it all on Jay and Jordan, even if they didn't perform - the rest of the side were shite too, excepting Glen, Luis and Andy.

So who should have started midfield?

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1043 on: May 5, 2012, 10:14:20 PM »
Kenny can be hanged for a few things this season, but the idea that Andy Carroll would have played with the same desire and determination had he started rather than coming on, chasing a final, 2 goals down is very harsh on KK. The midfield selection was a shocker.
I personally thought Andy looked full of desire and determination even against Fulham at times. He's a player with much to prove and lots to make up for in terms of form, and I think he would've played well had he started.
Edit: That said, I was happy when I saw the starting 11. So I'm not saying I would've made a better decision than Kenny.
« Last Edit: May 5, 2012, 10:19:39 PM by echis »

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1044 on: May 5, 2012, 10:14:34 PM »
I'm fucking gutted. Haven't felt like this in ages. Few injuries for them when they come to Anfield next week, please. Fuck getting goals. Just break the c*nts and fuck them over for the CL final.

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1046 on: May 5, 2012, 10:14:42 PM »
Has there ever been a worst central midfield partnership starting a major final in the history of Liverpool Football Club than Jordan Henderson and Jay Spearing?

was thinking that before the game started
certainly the worst i have seen in 30 years

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1047 on: May 5, 2012, 10:14:47 PM »
I know we can't get the decision changed, but has anyone else noticed that the frame of the goal and goal line were not actually alligned? Take a look here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqmcjy_chelsea-2-1-liverpool-hoofoot-com-05-05-2012-final-fa-cup_sport?start=261

It seems to me that the ball clearly crossed the line, but to be fair to the linesman, the ball did not cross the width of the bar - because the frame of the goal is actually leaning backwards.

In short, I don't blame the linesman, but this was another fuck-up by the FA, who, as organisers, are responsible.

On the game itself, I think it's all been said already - when you don't even start playing until an hour has gone by, you can't expect to win. A decent team would have been 4-0 up against us by that stage, but the fact that Chelsea also played badly only makes me regret it more.

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1048 on: May 5, 2012, 10:15:12 PM »
Chelsea did fuck all and won cos some of our players can't do it. That first goal was a pub goal from midfield to defence to keeper,

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1049 on: May 5, 2012, 10:15:36 PM »
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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1050 on: May 5, 2012, 10:15:54 PM »
Well done Andy Carroll, that's all to say

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1051 on: May 5, 2012, 10:17:37 PM »

I've been in a shocker of a mood all season, but at the end of this I was weirdly upbeat. Still am.


Strangely, this describes perfectly how I feel too!

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1052 on: May 5, 2012, 10:17:56 PM »
I know we can't get the decision changed, but has anyone else noticed that the frame of the goal and goal line were not actually alligned? Take a look here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqmcjy_chelsea-2-1-liverpool-hoofoot-com-05-05-2012-final-fa-cup_sport?start=261

It seems to me that the ball clearly crossed the line, but to be fair to the linesman, the ball did not cross the width of the bar - because the frame of the goal is actually leaning backwards.

In short, I don't blame the linesman, but this was another fuck-up by the FA, who, as organisers, are responsible.

On the game itself, I think it's all been said already - when you don't even start playing until an hour has gone by, you can't expect to win. A decent team would have been 4-0 up against us by that stage, but the fact that Chelsea also played badly only makes me regret it more.
It's the camera angle mate. The posts aren't perfectly aligned with each other either.

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1053 on: May 5, 2012, 10:18:04 PM »
Do you not think Kenny got it wrong today mate?

I dont.

Played the team a huge majority on here and most people I met at the pub today wanted.

The mistakes were made last Summer. Today there's very little I can fault Kenny with.
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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1054 on: May 5, 2012, 10:18:04 PM »
I personally thought Andy looked full of desire and determination even against Norwich at times. He's a player with much to prove and lots to make up for in terms of form, and I think he would've played well had he started.
Edit: That said, I was happy when I saw the starting 11. So I'm not saying I would've made a better decision than Kenny.

He didn't play against Norwich. I believe Andy will and is coming good for us but I still think Kenny was right not to start with him - not his fault if the majority of the team shit out of a game.

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1055 on: May 5, 2012, 10:19:06 PM »
I know we can't get the decision changed, but has anyone else noticed that the frame of the goal and goal line were not actually alligned? Take a look here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqmcjy_chelsea-2-1-liverpool-hoofoot-com-05-05-2012-final-fa-cup_sport?start=261

It seems to me that the ball clearly crossed the line, but to be fair to the linesman, the ball did not cross the width of the bar - because the frame of the goal is actually leaning backwards.

In short, I don't blame the linesman, but this was another fuck-up by the FA, who, as organisers, are responsible.

On the game itself, I think it's all been said already - when you don't even start playing until an hour has gone by, you can't expect to win. A decent team would have been 4-0 up against us by that stage, but the fact that Chelsea also played badly only makes me regret it more.

It's not that the bar is leaning backward, but rather the camera angle is not dead on straight. That's why it looks out, when it was probably in.

Our midfield is a disaster. A complete disaster. That is the area of the pitch that we need to address over the summer. Lucas coming back is all well and good, but we need backup, and it's time to face the fact that Jay Spearing just will not cut it at this level. Henderson may, one day, but today was not his day either.
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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1056 on: May 5, 2012, 10:19:18 PM »
He didn't play against Norwich. I believe Andy will and is coming good for us but I still think Kenny was right not to start with him - not his fault if the majority of the team shit out of a game.
My mistake, I meant Fulham :)

But yes, I also thought Kenny did the right thing not starting with him at the time. Not so sure now, but what's done is done.
« Last Edit: May 5, 2012, 10:20:52 PM by echis »

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1057 on: May 5, 2012, 10:19:26 PM »
Never, and that was always going to be a problem. Compounding that was the fact that, apart from Johnson, Suarez and Carroll, we didn't turn up for the game, I'd give Skrtel and Agger a bit of slack but the rest were shite.

Sad day, let's hope the club learn from this and move forward - under KK of course.

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In the first half where it was obvious we should have had Carroll on from the start against an over the hill Terry and makeshift center back and the failure to address this is placed at Kenny's door.

The tactics and initial lineup were piss poor and the thing that is galling is that they were there for the taking. Carroll transformed the game and hopefully with the right sort of Service will be an absolute beast next season. That said we have a little too much mediocrity in the team. Why was [Dear bellend, please insert name of Craig Bellamy here.] starting instead of coming on late on? Why did Downing get in ahead of Maxi when he has clearly been far superior, and why Spearing when he has not been able to dominate any midfield at this level and was sadly a little out of his depth.  That said we still should have been level at full time if not for a shithouse of lineman and fcukwit Dowd who should have sent Mikel off for a foul on Carroll.

The warning signs have all been there and ignored and I am sorry I am annoyed right now but if Kenny, who can do little wrong in my book, if  he can't or refuses to see where his choices are failing maybe he needs to consider this from a different perspective.
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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1058 on: May 5, 2012, 10:19:47 PM »
Do you not think Kenny got it wrong today mate?

In starting with that team no the majority in here wanted most of the Norwich team picked, might have put Andy on a half time but that's hindsight and if he had bombed the same people like him would say why the fuck did he put Andy on at all.

Quite simply he wants Kenny out and is no better than the agenda Based posters who lost us Rafa, so his comment was poor lacking in reality and needed challenging for what it is!
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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1059 on: May 5, 2012, 10:20:06 PM »
Today on reflection has still left me gutted but Carroll's Cameo shows one thing... he has the quality, he can act under pressure and the chances he may spurn are chances very few players in the world can get. Suarez might make his chances but Andy's chances are usually balls no other play can work with.

One team put faith in their targetman from the minute go (despite an ineffective performance at Newcastle) whilst we decided to leave our guy on the bench... and the targetmen were the difference.

I personally thought Carroll should have probably played but thats simply because I think Carroll is a better striker than Spearing was a midfielder and that with Lucas out and Gerrard out of sorts, we were never going to win the midfield battle against Chelsea. Therefore I felt Andy winning the balls in the air and holding it up for Suarez was a better option.

However, I understand where Kenny was coming from. The 3-0 against Norwich with 4-5-1 was a good enough trial run of the Gerrard-Suarez partnership to give it a go at Wembley. However, I think Kenny grossly underestimated the difference between Norwich and Chelsea's midfield.

Downing hid yet again, Spearing showed a severe lack of quality, Reina continued to have his worst season yet, Gerrard has shown is now not a keyplayer but a good first team player and Maxi was once against restricted to the bench with Kuyt, a big game player, playing a very small role in the proceedings.



However, Carroll was immense, Suarez was fantastic as usual despite being by himself up there and Kenny showed character in dropping Carragher for the game. We're a work in progress, our midfield is far too weak. A revamp in midfield and a third striker/flair player is what we need this summer.

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1060 on: May 5, 2012, 10:20:30 PM »
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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1061 on: May 5, 2012, 10:20:35 PM »
just watched the highlights  :'( but that carroll goal was a beauty i thought he took to long to take the shot away but those step overs fooling terry  :lickin

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1062 on: May 5, 2012, 10:20:55 PM »
I dont.

Played the team a huge majority on here and most people I met at the pub today wanted.

The mistakes were made last Summer. Today there's very little I can fault Kenny with.

Well I didn't want Downing starting for one, and he made the wrongs subs imo.
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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1063 on: May 5, 2012, 10:23:19 PM »
What does the fact that Kenny played the team the "majority" of fans wanted have to do with whether he got it right or wrong?

I was one of those that liked the line-up (bar Downing), so I'm not gonna complain about it. But the fact that he put out the "popular" line up doesn't dictate whether he got it right or wrong.
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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1064 on: May 5, 2012, 10:23:33 PM »
I'm looking forward to Carroll playing next year - he was far the best player when he came on, bringing others in. Gutted with the result but the first half we were "bossed" - we did fuck all.  Midfield was dire - welcome back Lucas for 2012-13.
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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1065 on: May 5, 2012, 10:25:06 PM »
I dont.

Played the team a huge majority on here and most people I met at the pub today wanted.

The mistakes were made last Summer. Today there's very little I can fault Kenny with.

I think he played pretty much the right team, but the tactics were off for me. We didn't go at them, we sat deep and let them have the ball without applying a shred of pressure and we let Suarez get isolated as Gerrard was far too deep.

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1066 on: May 5, 2012, 10:25:42 PM »
What does the fact that Kenny played the team the "majority" of fans wanted have to do with whether he got it right or wrong?

I was one of those that liked the line-up (bar Downing), so I'm not gonna complain about it. But the fact that he put out the "popular" line up doesn't dictate whether he got it right or wrong.

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1067 on: May 5, 2012, 10:25:49 PM »
I dont.

Played the team a huge majority on here and most people I met at the pub today wanted.

The mistakes were made last Summer. Today there's very little I can fault Kenny with.

Agree, he changed the team when he felt necessary and it nearly paid off. We lost  2-1 to the CL Finalists, we were the underdogs today, it'll be no great shock to people that we lost.

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1068 on: May 5, 2012, 10:25:49 PM »
Well I didn't want Downing starting for one, and he made the wrongs subs imo.

The subs turned the game!

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1069 on: May 5, 2012, 10:26:21 PM »
Some right muppetry in here. I'm devastated about the loss, been in a foul mood all night but not into calling for Kenny's head because so many players couldn't handle it. He made the wrong shout leaving Carroll out, but lets not forget that we've seen more from many of the starters today than we did today. Awful feeling losing against that shower but let's not turn into them and start a merry-go-round of managers.
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« Reply #1070 on: May 5, 2012, 10:26:26 PM »
As one of the tweets on the BBC live commetary page said - that game proved that Carroll is not the problem with LFC.

Carroll should have started, Spearing should never start again. Where's fucking Martin Atkinson when you need him ? Carroll's 'goal' was certainly a lot further over the line than Chelsea's 2nd in their semi-final :)

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« Reply #1071 on: May 5, 2012, 10:26:43 PM »
Just hit me that our season's pretty much over and we lost the final :(

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« Reply #1072 on: May 5, 2012, 10:27:35 PM »
I could answer this but you would post it on twitter like all my other comments so no comment Kendra ok!

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« Reply #1073 on: May 5, 2012, 10:27:57 PM »
Just hit me that our season's pretty much over and we lost the final :(
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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1074 on: May 5, 2012, 10:28:29 PM »
we stood off them far too much, when we beat them at stamford bridge it was through heavy pressing their defenders and midfielders into pressure that paid off. I know the pitch was bigger but in the first half we gave them all the time in the world

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1075 on: May 5, 2012, 10:28:46 PM »
The subs turned the game!

Carroll was a boss sub. I can't see why though he'd take off Bellamy instead of Downing.
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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1076 on: May 5, 2012, 10:28:48 PM »
What does the fact that Kenny played the team the "majority" of fans wanted have to do with whether he got it right or wrong?

I was one of those that liked the line-up (bar Downing), so I'm not gonna complain about it. But the fact that he put out the "popular" line up doesn't dictate whether he got it right or wrong.

Spot on but I feel we should cut him a little bit of slack.

He/Commoli simply didn't get it right in the market. Thats where the problems have stemmed from. Looking at the strength of Chelsea, it was always going to be a hard game where they were favorites.

We spend 15-20M on Henderson, they bought Ramires.
We spend 20M on Downing, they buy Mata.
(blahblah wages wages whatever whatever)

Put simply, given the squad and purchases Kenny has made... he can never get the right selection at the moment. He needs another transfer market with good purchases this time to write the wrongs of thie season.

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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1077 on: May 5, 2012, 10:28:53 PM »
Just hit me that our season's pretty much over and we lost the final :(

After the last match we should take down the goals and destroy them.
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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1078 on: May 5, 2012, 10:29:48 PM »
Carroll was a boss sub. I can't see why though he'd take off Bellamy instead of Downing.
I thought Downing looked more threatening.
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Re: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time
« Reply #1079 on: May 5, 2012, 10:29:50 PM »
What the fuck is he meant to do when he has to babysit the other two centre midfielders, and play inside his own half the whole day? Absolved from blame in my opinion.


Totally agree, It seems we still look to Stevie when the chips are down. Its time for the other players in red to stand up and be counted, especially the ones Kenny has stuck his neck on the line for.