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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona?
« Reply #440 on: April 27, 2012, 02:48:04 PM »
Really????  First Ive heard of that.  Remember him mentioning after last seasons champs league final that this may be his last year, but never heard anything else after that
He just said in his press conference.

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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona?
« Reply #441 on: April 27, 2012, 02:48:51 PM »
He just said in his press conference.

Ah right, never knew that.

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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona?
« Reply #442 on: April 27, 2012, 02:54:43 PM »
Brilliant manager. Put himself amongst the greats in just a few years. Hope he comes back to management after a rest, will be interesting to see what he does next.
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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona?
« Reply #443 on: April 27, 2012, 02:55:13 PM »
Would think he'll take some time off. I know that Moratti's got a huge Sam Dalla Boner for him.
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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona?
« Reply #444 on: April 27, 2012, 02:56:39 PM »
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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona?
« Reply #445 on: April 27, 2012, 02:58:49 PM »
Interesting juncture for them. Is this their Souness moment? They're almost 600m euros in debt and given the national economic reality, the banks and taxman in Spain can't keep propping up their finances.

Where you got that figure from? Barca finances are bad, but not that bad.
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« Reply #446 on: April 27, 2012, 02:59:58 PM »
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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona?
« Reply #447 on: April 27, 2012, 03:00:55 PM »
That's an interesting point. If it's the whole structure of the club and way it's run that matters, the input of the manager isn't that important.

Then any old meff off the street can come in and do it?

Doesn't work like that. They are one of the greatest because the whole ethos and structure of the club adds to the success on the pitch. That's why us in the 70s and 80s became almost mythical. The whole bootroom became some kind of magical entity within itslef and it was an incredible machine but it doesn't mean anyone could've walked in and done the job as well.

A manager's job never changes, no matter how much money they have to spend or whatever. It's to create a spirit within a squad of players to play to their potential and play for eachother in a system that suits them best. That may be to win the league or to hold off relegation but the essence of management is the same. Don't like Mourinho but he's a master at it and why he's such a good manager. Doesn't mean he can go absolutely anywhere and re create it though because every job is difficult.

Guardiola's success at Barcelona is remarkable, with or without everything that club has going for them.
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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona?
« Reply #448 on: April 27, 2012, 03:08:00 PM »
Didn't know this



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« Reply #449 on: April 27, 2012, 03:08:37 PM »
Barcelona pressures gradually ate away at Pep Guardiola's enjoyment

The emotional cost of coaching Barça has been as great as the physical one of late and the pleasure has been drained from the job, so it is no wonder Pep Guardiola has stepped down


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Xavi Hernández had no doubts yet even he was surprised. The day Barcelona announced that Pep Guardiola was going to be their new coach, back in the summer of 2008 after the team had just finished the season empty handed, 18 points behind Real Madrid at the top of La Liga, the midfielder was convinced that change would come. But even he could not have expected quite so much change and quite so quickly. Within 12 months, Barcelona had won a unique treble: the league, the Copa del Rey and the European Cup were theirs. More followed. Much more.

"When they signed him I said: 'Madre mía, we're going to be flying,'" Xavi has recalled. "I swear it. He's a perfectionist. If Pep decided to be a musician, he would be a good musician. If he wanted to be a psychologist, he would be a good psychologist. He is obsessive; he would keep going until he got it right. He demands so much from himself. And that pressure that he puts on himself, those demands are contagious – it spreads to everyone. He wants everything to be perfect. He is a pesado." Heavy. Hard-working. Intense.

That intensity has led Guardiola to become the most successful coach in Barcelona's history. He has reached four consecutive Champions League semi-finals and won 13 trophies. Two have evaded him in a week in which Barcelona were knocked out of the Champions League by Chelsea and beaten by Real Madrid in the clásico, leaving them seven points behind with four games to play and conceding the title. But there is still a Copa del Rey final to come at the end of the season. Win that and he would have won 14 of 18 competitions.

There have been three consecutive league titles and two European Cups in just four years. And before that there was a league title as coach of Barcelona B. "Success" barely does it justice. It was about more than just the success, too, it was about the style. Barcelona were different.

So is Guardiola. One of his collaborators describes him as "seductive". It is difficult to do justice to just what he represents for the club. There was a kind of collective holding of breath as the wait to find out his future went on, almost as if the whole of Catalonia was anxiously pacing up and down outside a hospital ward, chewing their nails, waiting for news, watching the hand on the clock stubbornly refuse to move. Few men have represented Barcelona like Guardiola. Perhaps none have, despite the status always afforded to Johan Cruyff – the counter-cultural revolutionary, the rebel and aesthete from whom Guardiola himself took inspiration.

When Barcelona reached the 1986 European Cup final, a 15-year-old ballboy raced on to the pitch and pleaded with Victor Muñoz, scorer of the decisive penalty against Gothenburg in the shootout, for his shirt. The ballboy was Guardiola. During one match against Madrid he ran up to the referee and told him he was playing with the emotions of an entire nation, and he was not talking about Spain. When Andrés Iniesta was a kid, there were two posters on his wall at La Masía: one was of Catherine Zeta Jones, the other was Pep Guardiola. Cesc Fábregas still treasures the signed Guardiola shirt he was given as a youth-team player at the club.

A Catalan and a product of Barcelona's youth system, the skinny kid plucked from obscurity by Cruyff, Guardiola became the captain of Barcelona's Dream Team – the model against which all other Barcelona teams are measured and which Guardiola's team superseded. There is the same commitment to a footballing identity. But it is done even better. The hours are longer, the detail more intense. In a recent speech at the Catalan parliament, where he was awarded the medal of honour, Guardiola described how he hides away in a dark room for hours watching videos before each game, studying and thinking until the eureka moment arrives. "If we all work hard," he said, "we're an unstoppable country."

It is not just the talent but the intensity and commitment that make Guardiola. It is the same intensity that has contributed to his departure and the same commitment that contributed to delaying it: the coach was concerned about the impact that his announcement could have. Ultimately, though, the impact upon him was greater. In the end, it was too great. His left-back Eric Abidal has had a liver transplant, his assistant Tito Vilanova has had a tumour removed, he has been hospitalised with back problems. The emotional cost has been as great as the physical one. Managing Barcelona has taken its toll.

There has been joy – the praise of some of his players and some of his opponents has gone well beyond the normal platitudes – but there has also been a kind of weariness about Guardiola, especially in the past couple of years. The smile when he notes that he is losing his hair disguises a serious message. Barcelona are a club where the pressure is intense; Guardiola has talked about their being a club of short cycles. He was caught on television calculating that three or four years was a maximum, intimating that his time was "coming to an end".

José Mourinho recently said that Pep Guardiola should be given a contract at Barcelona for "50 years". "I thought José loved me more than that!" Guardiola joked. The joke revealed much. The Barcelona job is one that wears a coach down anyway and Guardiola is a coach that dedicates effort and emotion to the role; the importance he gives it, the reverence he has for the club and for football – "The game needs him," Raúl said on Thursday – brings with it a huge fatigue factor.

Throw this Madrid, with this manager, this media, this milieu, into the mix and the impact is even greater. Not only have there been internal problems at Barça, not only are Madrid a brilliant team that can push Barcelona all the way to the finish line, keeping the competitive tense up every single week, pushing them to breaking point, but the atmosphere has also changed. The agenda has shifted and the atmosphere has become suffocating. Guardiola and Raúl are friends; Guardiola and Mourinho once were. No more. The disappointment and hurt, the irritation, is palpable. The sadness, the sense of bitterness. That may sound melodramatic, somewhat overemotional, but from Guardiola's point of view it is true.

Even the things he did well could be held against him; there were many who threw the compliments back in his face. "Maybe it's true," he said, "maybe I do piss perfume." He may be wrong, he may be sensitive, he is no angel and he is not entirely blameless, but the Barcelona boss has found much of what relentlessly swirls around these clubs incomprehensible and unjust. The accusations and suspicions, the constant tension, the interests, have taken their toll. He was all too aware of the use that could be made of his every word and at times felt powerless to defend himself. The involvement was always huge; now it is just too much. He has found himself pulled into territory in which he is uncomfortable. This is not what he wanted, nor what he proposed. But it is what there is and it is inescapable. When Mourinho insisted that he and Guardiola were the same, the Barcelona coach said: "I will have to revise my behaviour then."

Put in simple terms: Pep Guardiola has not often enjoyed the past two years. In the build up to the final one of four clásicos played towards the end of last season, he said: "These have been 18 difficult days." His face revealed just how difficult. A few days before, he had snapped against Mourinho with his now famous rant about how the Portuguese coach was the "puto amo" [the fucking master] in the Bernabéu press conference room. That was planned, controlled. But he has not been able to control his environment as he would like; and being in control is something that has always concerned him. He has turned increasingly to sarcasm. At times it has carried a bitter sting.

There was something a little sad about the scene last week. Asked about the meetings between Real Madrid and Barcelona, Guardiola seemed to have forgotten about some of the moments that defined his spell on the Barcelona bench, about the 6-2 and the 5-0, about reaching the Champions League final and claiming the Spanish Super Cup, about some of Leo Messi's most marvellous moments and his own tactical innovations, such as winning at the Bernabéu with three at the back. Instead, he said: "I don't have good memories of them." And when that happens it is time to walk away.

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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona | Tito Vilanova is new coach.
« Reply #450 on: April 27, 2012, 04:34:58 PM »
Brilliant manager. Put himself amongst the greats in just a few years. Hope he comes back to management after a rest, will be interesting to see what he does next.

Not just a brilliant manager, shows him self to be an exceptional individual in all regards. Am quite sad for them. Still, means he is going to pop up somewhere else, and as you say thats a very interesting proposition. The test of true greatness. Can the Anti Mourinho emulate the dark ones sucsess.

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« Reply #451 on: April 27, 2012, 04:42:01 PM »
Not just a brilliant manager, shows him self to be an exceptional individual in all regards. Am quite sad for them. Still, means he is going to pop up somewhere else, and as you say thats a very interesting proposition. The test of true greatness. Can the Anti Mourinho emulate the dark ones sucsess.

Yep, exceptional individual sounds about right.

Will indeed be interesting to see. Sid Lowe was explaining on football weekly that Pep thinks almost obsessively about the long term ramifications of every decision he makes on the club, comparing it with Mourinho who, great though he is, does not give a shit. I think it might make it harder for Pep (in terms of the pressure he puts himself under) but as a result I doubt we will see Barça struggle in the way that most clubs do after mourinho leaves.
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« Reply #453 on: April 27, 2012, 05:09:46 PM »
Darren Gough: "Guardiola should now become technical director at the english FA"  :lmao

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« Reply #454 on: April 27, 2012, 05:10:52 PM »
Will he even do a lap of honour at the Nou Camp?

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« Reply #455 on: April 27, 2012, 05:11:04 PM »
Going to be a hell of an act to follow him like, win everything and its all down to Pep, win nothing and be slaughtered.

That said though Barca will be alright, they've got shitloads of talent ready to come through in the coming years, as well as the whole system that is in place there. They just need another manager who can make them believe in themselves again and thats them back on top.
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« Reply #456 on: April 27, 2012, 05:19:57 PM »
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« Reply #457 on: April 27, 2012, 05:24:53 PM »
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« Reply #458 on: April 27, 2012, 05:26:17 PM »
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« Reply #459 on: April 27, 2012, 06:13:21 PM »
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« Reply #460 on: April 27, 2012, 06:14:09 PM »
I think he's a very good manager but people on here are overhyping him a bit. He took over a very good Barcelona team from Rijkaard who is the one that got that back to success with La Liga trophies and CL.  The core of the team Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol were already at the club so he didn't bring them in and the youth players coming through were exceptional and he should know because he managed Barcelona B. then they signed Villa, Sanchez, Fabregas, too.

Barcelona were already set up to play like that because that's how they ply from youth team to first team which was installed by Barcelona as a club not one man. Guardiola just understood the philosophy and went with it, he was the perfect fit as manager for them, but to credit him with everything Barcelona is completely silly.

I live what he's doing though. He needs to be challenged and that's what the greatest do, (Messi needs todo the same IMO) love to see in the prem in a couple of years time.



When he's won what he has in that amount of time, I don't think you can overhype him. 13 trophies in 4 years is unbelievable. I mean, 13 trophies in 13 years is good. And not only that, but they did it playing the most breathtaking football I've ever seen. To be honest, I'm just a bit gutted I never got to see the team live at its peak.

And yes, he had the nucleus of the great team in place. But they'd finished 3rd the season before he came in and definitely weren't anywhere near the level they got to withing a year of him being there. Absolutely nowhere near.

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« Reply #461 on: April 27, 2012, 06:28:33 PM »
Think only city's players would be able to take in his style

Imo he takes a year off and takez the Spanish job
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« Reply #462 on: April 27, 2012, 06:30:10 PM »
When he's won what he has in that amount of time, I don't think you can overhype him. 13 trophies in 4 years is unbelievable. I mean, 13 trophies in 13 years is good. And not only that, but they did it playing the most breathtaking football I've ever seen. To be honest, I'm just a bit gutted I never got to see the team live at its peak.

And yes, he had the nucleus of the great team in place. But they'd finished 3rd the season before he came in and definitely weren't anywhere near the level they got to withing a year of him being there. Absolutely nowhere near.

You're right there Baz, he's had a phenomenal spell and i believe now that he has gone his legacy will become more profound. I'm just pleased we've all had the pleasure of witnessing it unfold, without doubt some of the most impressive team football i've ever seen.
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« Reply #463 on: April 27, 2012, 06:50:36 PM »
I'm a bit sad about this to be honest. I was enjoying watching this Barca team so much, I unrealistically hoped Pep might stay on and build a longer legacy. Those underestimating what he has done for that football club have short memories, he took Barcelona from a good team to arguably the greatest team in the history of football.

Although he was only there for four years there's no mistaking the impact he's had on that club. Before Guardiola they were a club that had always been packed with great individuals, but rarely great teams. Now they have the greatest of teams.
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« Reply #464 on: April 27, 2012, 06:52:29 PM »
i think guardiola will be the next Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas if he leaves barca for any other club

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« Reply #465 on: April 27, 2012, 06:57:10 PM »
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« Reply #466 on: April 27, 2012, 06:57:20 PM »
Going to be a hell of an act to follow him like, win everything and its all down to Pep, win nothing and be slaughtered.

That said though Barca will be alright, they've got shitloads of talent ready to come through in the coming years, as well as the whole system that is in place there. They just need another manager who can make them believe in themselves again and thats them back on top.

I have a feeling Tito is going to be even better than Pep..

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« Reply #467 on: April 27, 2012, 07:02:15 PM »
I have a feeling Tito is going to be even better than Pep..

Well that would be very much of a feeling, seeing as though we have no evidence yet to see how he will take that team forward.

I think it's a very difficult challenge, as he will need to hit the ground running with results and performances.

I actually don't think we'll see a great deal of difference in their style of play, but it'll be interesting to see what moves they make in the summer.
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« Reply #468 on: April 27, 2012, 07:05:56 PM »
Top man and every bit the genius he has been given credit for.

It shows an unbelievable amount of self awareness, level headedness and vision to come to the conclusion that despite holding the top position at the biggest club in the world, his time was over.

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« Reply #469 on: April 27, 2012, 07:08:41 PM »
Why couldn't Mourinho go? :(

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« Reply #470 on: April 27, 2012, 07:09:35 PM »
Your frighteningly blinkered. Ten first team players who play week in week out are a product of their academy. Get your head of of his arse.

Any decent manager with half a football brain could achieve the things he has.

I'm NOT knocking any of their achievements, they are by far the best team i've ever seen. All i'm saying is it's not all that it seems. He's wasted some major cash.

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« Reply #471 on: April 27, 2012, 07:13:27 PM »
Some quality comedy posts in here...

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« Reply #472 on: April 27, 2012, 07:14:21 PM »
Some quality comedy posts in here...
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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona | Tito Vilanova is new coach.
« Reply #473 on: April 27, 2012, 07:15:34 PM »
Ironically the same people saying he'd stuggle at another club are the ones who said that most of his signing have been flops  ::)
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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona | Tito Vilanova is new coach.
« Reply #474 on: April 27, 2012, 07:23:42 PM »
Was that before, after or during the eye gouging incident/game?
I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that it was just after Mourinho had gouged his eye. Mourinho deserved it too.

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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona | Tito Vilanova is new coach.
« Reply #475 on: April 27, 2012, 07:35:27 PM »
Was that before, after or during the eye gouging incident/game?

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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona | Tito Vilanova is new coach.
« Reply #476 on: April 27, 2012, 07:49:31 PM »
Gives Mourinho's a great chance at equaling Paisely's record first.

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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona | Tito Vilanova is new coach.
« Reply #477 on: April 27, 2012, 07:55:58 PM »
IT'S YOUR TIME TITO!


This is hilarious.
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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona | Tito Vilanova is new coach.
« Reply #478 on: April 27, 2012, 07:58:13 PM »
Gives Mourinho's a great chance at equaling Paisely's record first.


I think this record is bound to be broken by Mourinho sooner or later. He still has a good 15-20 years left in him coaching and I can see him beating this record in them.

The only solace we can take is that Paisley might be the only one to do it in such a short period of time. 9 years, how impressive is that.
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Re: Pep Guardiola to leave Barcelona | Tito Vilanova is new coach.
« Reply #479 on: April 27, 2012, 08:06:18 PM »
well, they all came within 5 years
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