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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #120 on: April 19, 2012, 08:24:11 PM »
Problem was people were still smarting over Benitez, so realistically, anyone other than Benitez coming back and maybe Kenny, probably would of gotten the same. Sad, but true.

Mate Benitez is in the past, no need to keep dragging him up.  :wave
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #121 on: April 19, 2012, 08:25:11 PM »
Hodgson for England is flipping brill.

Hodgson is a tit. Nothing more, nothing less. The hatred directed towards him is ridiculously mis-placed. He was far from our worst problem at the time. Not his fault Purslow was a parasite that sacked one of the finest managers in the game. Hodgson doesn't deserve a special warm reception but he doesn't deserve abuse either.

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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #122 on: April 19, 2012, 08:26:21 PM »
I hope he does get a warm reception. We have moved on now as a club, so theres no reason for him not to be well received, plus we have a good tack record of it.
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #124 on: April 19, 2012, 08:26:48 PM »
The main reason being that many fans didn't want him and would therefore use anything they could as a means to criticise him.

Agree.

Personally that wouldn't be the case. These factors make it okay for Kenny to say it in my mind: he's a Liverpool legend, his return coincided with a game against United at Old Trafford (saying he's shit and has achieved nothing then losing would have been a little odd), he had been gone for years and was famously Fergusons big rival and vice versa - Ferguson had since improved drastically as a manager, he didn't want the club to look petty insulting the person widely considered to be the best manager for the last 20 odd years.

Now I'm trying to think of one reason why it would've been okay for Hodgson to say it but frankly I can only think of reasons he should not say it. (E.g., sitting next to Ferguson at some random match, shaking his hand, various other bad things he did as Liverpool manager).
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #125 on: April 19, 2012, 08:27:53 PM »
Who's Roy Hodgson?  :P

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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #126 on: April 19, 2012, 08:29:40 PM »
The main reason being that many fans didn't want him and would therefore use anything they could as a means to criticise him.
Pretty much true.

And yes, imagine Hodgson saying what Kenny did in his first games and at OT of all places! ahahahaha this place would of melted.

The bloke was fucked before he'd even begun. Would - by minor miracle or by just doing it differently we'd won something would people of changed their opinions? I doubt it.

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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #127 on: April 19, 2012, 08:32:59 PM »
I hope he does get a warm reception. We have moved on now as a club, so theres no reason for him not to be well received, plus we have a good tack record of it.
Apart from spreading lies about the man he replaced and taking us for fools. Amazed that some people see no problem with the way he conducted himself. I won't be booing him, I wouldn't waste my breathe, but I won't be clapping him or thanking him for his efforts either.
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #128 on: April 19, 2012, 08:34:08 PM »
Mate Benitez is in the past, no need to keep dragging him up.  :wave
I'm allowed to, I've had direct comms with those on high who've asked me to come steaming in when someone mentions him in a thread.

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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #129 on: April 19, 2012, 08:37:15 PM »
Personally that wouldn't be the case. These factors make it okay for Kenny to say it in my mind: he's a Liverpool legend, his return coincided with a game against United at Old Trafford (saying he's shit and has achieved nothing then losing would have been a little odd), he had been gone for years and was famously Fergusons big rival and vice versa - Ferguson had since improved drastically as a manager, he didn't want the club to look petty insulting the person widely considered to be the best manager for the last 20 odd years.

Now I'm trying to think of one reason why it would've been okay for Hodgson to say it but frankly I can only think of reasons he should not say it. (E.g., sitting next to Ferguson at some random match, shaking his hand, various other bad things he did as Liverpool manager).

Well you've contradicted yourself there mate. If Roy was asked about Ferguson during one of his first interviews, it would surely have been odd as you described it to say that he had achieved nothing.

Kenny's exact quote was: "You have to respect what Alex has done in the game and you don't do it through gritted teeth. It's a fantastic achievement what he's done, his track record is fantastic, we respect him as a person and a football manager. It's all well and good people disliking him or disliking Manchester United, but it doesn't mean you don't respect what other people have done in football." That's as true if Roy says it as it was when Kenny said it.

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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #130 on: April 19, 2012, 08:39:42 PM »
Apart from spreading lies about the man he replaced and taking us for fools. Amazed that some people see no problem with the way he conducted himself. I won't be booing him, I wouldn't waste my breathe, but I won't be clapping him or thanking him for his efforts either.

Did I say I saw no problem? Said the club has moved on, and it has. Don't you do anything then, thats your business. And my business is I wouldn want to see him booed, think its uncalled for. The same as I don't expect or think he deserves a standing ovation either. Well received meaning he should't be booed, and may be the odd few may give him a little clap. You see players who have played at the club for a short time, never really contributing much, being applauded, so why not.
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #131 on: April 19, 2012, 08:41:15 PM »
Incidentally, these were Kenny's words on Hodgson during his first interview back.

"Roy is a very honourable guy with loads of integrity and I feel really sad for him. He came in at the start of the season when Rafa left, he tried his best but it just didn't happen for him and the disappointing thing for me is that this opportunity has come along and he has lost out. If you ask any manager if they want to manage Liverpool Football Club there's no way in the world they're going to say no, so he came in and unfortunately for himself and everyone else it didn't work out as we all hoped and I don't think there's anybody who supports the football club who will get any pleasure out of seeing it not work."

I hope he gets a warm reception. All of the abuse he received was uncalled for in my opinion, he certainly doesn't deserve more of it.

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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #132 on: April 19, 2012, 08:41:49 PM »
I'm allowed to, I've had direct comms with those on high who've asked me to come steaming in when someone mentions him in a thread.

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Except Benitez wasn't mentioned, only in a quote from Roy in page one. No one was discussing Benitez here.

You however brought him up in a manor which would probably get a few bites. Are you mourning the lack of Rafa threads lately? ;D
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #133 on: April 19, 2012, 08:42:41 PM »
Well you've contradicted yourself there mate. If Roy was asked about Ferguson during one of his first interviews, it would surely have been odd as you described it to say that he had achieved nothing.

Kenny's exact quote was: "You have to respect what Alex has done in the game and you don't do it through gritted teeth. It's a fantastic achievement what he's done, his track record is fantastic, we respect him as a person and a football manager. It's all well and good people disliking him or disliking Manchester United, but it doesn't mean you don't respect what other people have done in football." That's as true if Roy says it as it was when Kenny said it.


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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #134 on: April 19, 2012, 08:43:00 PM »
Problem was people were still smarting over Benitez, so realistically, anyone other than Benitez coming back and maybe Kenny, probably would of gotten the same. Sad, but true.

Nah, I went all the games when Hodgson started in league and cup and take it from me we gave him a chance at first, he got a good reception from the Kop and goodwill from many initially despite serious doubts over his signings and tactics but he steadily started getting dog's abuse because of what he did and said and because he was a snidey, incompetent twat who criticised the fans, told lies and defended the indefensible.

Plenty of other good managers and good men would have got the same chance at first and won our favour. I don't believe for a second that Hodgson was just a victim of circumstances. Yes, he had an incredibly tough job at an incredibly tough time but he did worse than anybody could have imagined and he was at fault for that. The fans didn't ask him to slag off the protestors and we didn't tell him to sign Poulsen or Konchesky.

The main reason being that many fans didn't want him and would therefore use anything they could as a means to criticise him.

No, not at all. He brought it on himself. The things he said were miles apart from what Kenny said.
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #135 on: April 19, 2012, 08:44:34 PM »
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #136 on: April 19, 2012, 08:45:23 PM »
Well you've contradicted yourself there mate. If Roy was asked about Ferguson during one of his first interviews, it would surely have been odd as you described it to say that he had achieved nothing.

Kenny's exact quote was: "You have to respect what Alex has done in the game and you don't do it through gritted teeth. It's a fantastic achievement what he's done, his track record is fantastic, we respect him as a person and a football manager. It's all well and good people disliking him or disliking Manchester United, but it doesn't mean you don't respect what other people have done in football." That's as true if Roy says it as it was when Kenny said it.

Well, all Roy would have had to say is "look at my other comments over the last 10 odds years I've been managing in the Prem" or "no comment" - Kenny has special privileges because hes a special manager to the club. But anyway Hodgson distinguished himself as a friend of Ferguson - something Kenny wouldn't do. He talks about footballing respect - not friendship, or cosy sit downs in the stands. Because of Roys behaviour that comment would have been unacceptable, not because of who he is or his appointment, thats what I'm saying.
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #137 on: April 19, 2012, 08:47:06 PM »
Nah, I went all the games when Hodgson started in league and cup and take it from me we gave him a chance at first, he got a good reception from the Kop and goodwill from many initially despite serious doubts over his signings and tactics but he steadily started getting dog's abuse because of what he did and said and because he was a snidey, incompetent twat who criticised the fans, told lies and defended the indefensible.

Plenty of other good managers and good men would have got the same chance at first and won our favour. I don't believe for a second that Hodgson was just a victim of circumstances. Yes, he had an incredibly tough job at an incredibly tough time but he did worse than anybody could have imagined and he was at fault for that. The fans didn't ask him to slag off the protestors and we didn't tell him to sign Poulsen or Konchesky.

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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #138 on: April 19, 2012, 08:47:26 PM »
True, good of Kenny to be polite about a former manager of ours. It's not like when Benitez was here and Kenny was "here in name but never allowed to set foot into Melwood and we don’t want anything to do with you.”
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #139 on: April 19, 2012, 08:49:08 PM »
Hodgson being mates with Ferguson didn't bother me. Not defending Torres when Ferguson called him a diver did. Or slagging Glen Johnson. Or slagging the protestors, lads who had given blood, sweat and tears to get G&H out. Or telling me a painful 90 minutes at Goodison was the best we'd played all season. Or lying about Rafa disrespecting Kenny. Or slagging off the squad when we lost to fucking Northampton at home and making out like he wasn't bothered anyway. The list could go on and on. Nobody can tell me that Hodgson acted in a decent manner and didn't antagonise our fanbase - regardless of how shite we were during games, his interviews before and after were even worse. 
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #140 on: April 19, 2012, 08:51:40 PM »
we didn't tell him to sign Poulsen or Konchesky.


Again though, it's not like Rafa or Kenny haven't made any questionable signings. Moreover I doubt that any player signed by Kenny will ever be given a middle name of 'Fucking' as poor Mr. Konchesky did. I've no doubt that some fans would use absolutely anything they could as a means of criticising Hodgson, when they would never have done so in Rafa or Kenny's case.
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #141 on: April 19, 2012, 08:51:42 PM »
Did I say I saw no problem? Said the club has moved on, and it has. Don't you do anything then, thats your business. And my business is I wouldn want to see him booed, think its uncalled for. The same as I don't expect or think he deserves a standing ovation either. Well received meaning he should't be booed, and may be the odd few may give him a little clap. You see players who have played at the club for a short time, never really contributing much, being applauded, so why not.
I just personally don't think he's deserving of a particularly warm reception. Not saying he should be booed, like I said, I can't be bothered with that (but I'll understand if he does get booed), but the idea we should pat him on the back and thank him for the utter nonsense he spouted? Na. You have to earn our respect. If he'd conducted himself with a bit more class and in a manner befitting of a Liverpool manager, I wouldn't have a problem with thanking him for his efforts, but he lost that privilege when he spread lies about a living legend of this football club and treated us like idiots. I've moved on from the awful football, we knew what we were getting when he got the job. Blame Purslow for that. But there's no excuse for the lies, the disrespect and the lack of class.
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #142 on: April 19, 2012, 08:53:18 PM »
His presence also seemed to drag every one down including the players. I can remember being at games where there were thousands of empty seats and appalling atmospheres with the fans almost already resigned to defeat and I can still recall the Friday before the Manc FA Cup game that season and wondering what score we'd lose by and worrying if we'd get our pants pulled down.

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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #143 on: April 19, 2012, 08:56:40 PM »
I think that's a little harsh. He accepted the job and did his best, he wasn't good enough for the job, but that is the fault of the people that put him in charge. We've had players who have done sweet f-all for the club get a polite round of applause when they've returned. I see no reason why Roy shouldn't get one either.
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #144 on: April 19, 2012, 08:57:16 PM »
Again though, it's not like Rafa or Kenny haven't made any questionable signings. Moreover I doubt that any player signed by Kenny will ever be given a middle name of 'Fucking' as Mr. Konchesky did. I've no doubt that some fans would use absolutely anything they could as a means of criticising Hodgson, when they would never have done so in Rafa or Kenny's case.

No, but I don't think I've ever seen us chase as priorities two established players as bad as those two. I find it hard to name a midfielder I've seen worse than Poulsen or a defender as bad as Konchesky. Certainly not ones that Kenny or Rafa signed - unless you count free transfers perhaps, but even then I'm not sure Rafa's worst match up to them two.

Of course a small minority of fans were against him from the start, but it's a media myth that we didn't give him a chance and that the Kop didn't give him a period of grace. He just burned his bridges very, very quickly with behaviour off the pitch and performances on it that made my eyes and ears bleed.
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #145 on: April 19, 2012, 08:57:42 PM »
Nah, I went all the games when Hodgson started in league and cup and take it from me we gave him a chance at first, he got a good reception from the Kop and goodwill from many initially despite serious doubts over his signings and tactics but he steadily started getting dog's abuse because of what he did and said and because he was a snidey, incompetent twat who criticised the fans, told lies and defended the indefensible.

Plenty of other good managers and good men would have got the same chance at first and won our favour. I don't believe for a second that Hodgson was just a victim of circumstances. Yes, he had an incredibly tough job at an incredibly tough time but he did worse than anybody could have imagined and he was at fault for that. The fans didn't ask him to slag off the protestors and we didn't tell him to sign Poulsen or Konchesky.

No, not at all. He brought it on himself. The things he said were miles apart from what Kenny said.
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Maybe it's to do with what circles I move in but the biggest thing that upset people was the football, or more so the results. I'm not going to sit here and defend everything that he did, because he fucked up at times, like all managers, but he fucked up never the less, my point is and I understand where Paragon is coming from, is that he was dead in the water before we'd even kicked a ball. Maybe not with all lads at the match, but with quite a few they were still smarting. 

Either way, he's gone. So to all who go I say show a bit of class and dignity if you're going on Sunday and don't lower the tone to a near level of gobshiteness we heard last Sunday, and if you don't go, then you don't really matter anyway.

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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #146 on: April 19, 2012, 08:58:09 PM »
Bang on. I can't blame him for taking the job, or for not being any good at it - neither of those things are or were his fault, but everyone is responsible for their own behaviour, not least a fucking 60+ year old man being paid millions of pounds a year.
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #147 on: April 19, 2012, 08:58:47 PM »
Except Benitez wasn't mentioned, only in a quote from Roy in page one. No one was discussing Benitez here.

You however brought him up in a manor which would probably get a few bites. Are you mourning the lack of Rafa threads lately? ;D
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #148 on: April 19, 2012, 08:59:38 PM »
You think am on about the match going fans!

Maybe it's to do with what circles I move in but the biggest thing that upset people was the football, or more so the results. I'm not going to sit here and defend everything that he did, because he fucked up at times, like all managers, but he fucked up never the less, my point is and I understand where Paragon is coming from, is that he was dead in the water before we'd even kicked a ball. Maybe not with all lads at the match, but with quite a few they were still smarting. 

Either way, he's gone. So to all who go I say show a bit of class and dignity if you're going on Sunday and don't lower the tone to a near level of gobshiteness we heard last Sunday, and if you don't go, then you don't really matter anyway.

Don't get me wrong mate I won't boo him or give him any reaction. No applause, no jeering. Although if we're winning 3 or 4 nil I might join in with a rendition of Hodgson for England  ;)
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #149 on: April 19, 2012, 09:00:27 PM »
Completely agree with you Neil. Not only would a lot of managers have been accepted, Hodgson initially was, from all the evidence I could see. Northampton with his blaming the kids routine was when I remember the atmosphere at least on here changing hugely, and it, and he, only got worse after that.
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #150 on: April 19, 2012, 09:01:43 PM »
Problem was people were still smarting over Benitez, so realistically, anyone other than Benitez coming back and maybe Kenny, probably would of gotten the same. Sad, but true.

disagree, he was given a chance but i dont think any other liverpool manager has irked me as much as roy did. out of his depth and tried to blame others and was also arrogant

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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #151 on: April 19, 2012, 09:03:33 PM »
It's the defeatist attitude he had, just couldn't understand it.

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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #152 on: April 19, 2012, 09:04:59 PM »
I just personally don't think he's deserving of a particularly warm reception. Not saying he should be booed, like I said, I can't be bothered with that (but I'll understand if he does get booed), but the idea we should pat him on the back and thank him for the utter nonsense he spouted? Na. You have to earn our respect. If he'd conducted himself with a bit more class and in a manner befitting of a Liverpool manager, I wouldn't have a problem with thanking him for his efforts, but he lost that privilege when he spread lies about a living legend of this football club and treated us like idiots. I've moved on from the awful football, we knew what we were getting when he got the job. Blame Purslow for that. But there's no excuse for the lies, the disrespect and the lack of class.

Ahh well thats fair enough if you think that mate. I just personally think the club has moved on so much, and he was around for such a short time that his time here no longer bothers me. At the time like, it was less painful pulling teeth out. But I always knew the job was going to be too big for him especially with the old Yanks in charge saga, I think thats why I don't really care to remember his own antics, lol. The job got the better of him. He had his odd good times (though very few).
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #153 on: April 19, 2012, 09:06:50 PM »
Some of it was no worse than the football we were playing the season before, but many are reluctant to admit that.



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camped on the edge of our box? really?
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #154 on: April 19, 2012, 09:13:25 PM »
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camped on the edge of our box? really?

After the Wigan away game under Roy for example, a couple my friends (and probably a good few on here too) were saying it was the worst football they can remember Liverpool playing. I was at Wigan the season before for the 1-0 defeat and Liverpool's performance that night was just as bad, if not worse!

In my honest opinion some of the football we played in 09/10 was definitely as bad as under Roy's tenure in 10/11. The difference being that the fans were behind Rafa so excuses were made, as he always had the support of most fans. Roy obviously didn't have that support so the criticism was far greater.
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #155 on: April 19, 2012, 09:13:26 PM »
Though not really Roy's fault, another thing that worked against him was the media. They hailed him as a messiah before we even kicked a ball, took constant digs at previous management. We were told this new Liverpool would be a free flowing attacking side that we'd been missing for years, not his horrible negative unit. They made excuses for him week in and week out, we were basically having it all rammed down our throat day in day out. We were never going to respond well to that, it also makes it harder to move on when the previous regime is being brought up all the time.

Rather than being dignified Roy pretty much went along with what the media were saying, they gave him excuses and he used them. I've never seen any manager in the top flight blame players so much for performances, sometimes singling out individuals in the press. He constantly distanced himself from the squad, it wasn't his squad, that's why we weren't getting results, he had been left with poor players which we needed to get rid of. Togetherness wasn't there, as every week passed we became less and less a 'team'.

He was out of his depth, he doesn't deserve any bile, it's a mute point, just another manager managing another team.
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #156 on: April 19, 2012, 09:17:31 PM »
After the Wigan away game under Roy for example, a couple my friends (and probably a good few on here too) were saying it was the worst football they can remember Liverpool playing. I was at Wigan the season before for the 1-0 defeat and Liverpool's performance that night was just as bad, if not worse!

In my honest opinion some of the football we played in 09/10 was definitely as bad as under Roy's tenure in 10/11. The difference being that the fans were behind Rafa so excuses were made, as he always had the support of most fans. Roy was obviously never given that support so the criticism was far greater.

Come on mate, we lost 11 games in 09/10. Roy had lost 9 by January. I still remember the game at Man City, we played 4-4-2 and got absolutely ripped apart. We had some bad games in 09/10 no doubt, but nothing compared to some of the football we played in Roy's tenure.
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #157 on: April 19, 2012, 09:19:47 PM »
Though not really Roy's fault, another thing that worked against him was the media. They hailed him as a messiah before we even kicked a ball, took constant digs at previous management. We were told this new Liverpool would be a free flowing attacking side that we'd been missing for years, not his horrible negative unit. They made excuses for him week in and week out, we were basically having it all rammed down our throat day in day out. We were never going to respond well to that, it also makes it harder to move on when the previous regime is being brought up all the time.

Rather than being dignified Roy pretty much went along with what the media were saying, they gave him excuses and he used them. I've never seen any manager in the top flight blame players so much for performances, sometimes singling out individuals in the press. He constantly distanced himself from the squad, it wasn't his squad, that's why we weren't getting results, he had been left with poor players which we needed to get rid of. Togetherness wasn't there, as every week passed we became less and less a 'team'.

He was out of his depth, he doesn't deserve any bile, it's a mute point, just another manager managing another team.

Good post. The football was horrible and the results were awful. But him not being good enough as a manager is one thing, and you can't blame someone for not being good enough, but criticising the supporters for protesting, the players for not being good enough (they weren't his players, also rans, Mourinho was right etc) and lying about former managers were within in his control and he didn't give a shit about the club. Fuck him.
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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #158 on: April 19, 2012, 09:19:49 PM »
I hate him. I'd boo him if I was at the ground on Sunday.

Principly, it's because of how he got the job in the first place: forced on us by the likes of Martin Samuel, Paddy Barclay and those other horrible little Englanders. But also, it's because of his small time behavior once installed: he did everything to make us feel like a small club: from calling Northampton Town formidable oppostion, to calling a lucky win in Trabzonspor a "famous win", to saying he would hvae been pleased with a 0-0 at home to Wolves...Everything he said made you feel we'd become a crap club.

His refusal to accept responsability to this day still irks, as does the constant references to him by his chums in the media the minute Kenny draws a game.

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Re: Kenny says Roy Hodgson will get a warm reception from the fans
« Reply #159 on: April 19, 2012, 09:27:17 PM »
Come on mate, we lost 11 games in 09/10. Roy had lost 9 by January. I still remember the game at Man City, we played 4-4-2 and got absolutely ripped apart. We had some bad games in 09/10 no doubt, but nothing compared to some of the football we played in Roy's tenure.

I see what you're trying to argue mate but I disagree with your fundamental point. Despite the many defeats under Roy, the football was sometimes as shite the season before. Don't get me wrong, Wolves at home under Hodgson is perhaps the worst I've ever seen. However...

Stoke away in 09/10 we battled to defend our narrow lead, but sadly conceded a last minute goal. A season later we didn't even get a point and succumbed to a 2-0 defeat. On both occasions however, we played awful football. In fact it was dire. We struggled to string three passes together and were pretty much dominated by Stoke on both occasions. All the warning signs were there in 09/10. I even remember some on here saying that the 0-0 draw at Wolves in 09/10 was one of the worst performances they'd ever seen.