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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3800 on: April 13, 2012, 06:21:12 PM »
If Cuyff is coming, he is coming for the long term. Kenny is not here for the future. He is just here to steady the ship and leave. I really get very pissed off when RAWKites start acting like Kenny is here to re-build the Liverpool dynasty. Just get over that idea please.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3801 on: April 13, 2012, 06:21:54 PM »
:D  "We all dream of a team of ginger Jocks"

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3802 on: April 13, 2012, 06:22:39 PM »
Where's that bloody Dirk Kuyt when you want him?

Just don't ask him to translate :P
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3803 on: April 13, 2012, 06:23:09 PM »
If Cuyff is coming, he is coming for the long term. Kenny is not here for the future. He is just here to steady the ship and leave. I really get very pissed off when RAWKites start acting like Kenny is here to re-build the Liverpool dynasty. Just get over that idea please.
Unbelievable. Depresses me how so many fans just don't understand who Kenny Dalglish is and what he stands for. Pretty disgraceful actually.
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3804 on: April 13, 2012, 06:23:41 PM »
Okay nevermind that, this thread moves way too quickly, did not see that posted before!

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3805 on: April 13, 2012, 06:24:14 PM »
Unbelievable. Depresses me how so many fans just don't understand who Kenny Dalglish is and what he stands for. Pretty disgraceful actually.

Aye, its sad fella.  Not sure if its a generation thing or people honestly believe the tripe that the London / Salford press spew out.
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3806 on: April 13, 2012, 06:24:29 PM »
Director of Football is a role that would deprive Kenny of everything he loves most about being involved with a football club and leave him with most of what he probably dislikes. When he eventually leaves the manager's job I hope he's given the equivalent of Bobby Charlton's role down the road. And I hope that's a long, long time away.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3807 on: April 13, 2012, 06:24:33 PM »
Unbelievable. Depresses me how so many fans just don't understand who Kenny Dalglish is and what he stands for. Pretty disgraceful actually.

Yeah and sadly he is not alone lately in here.
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3808 on: April 13, 2012, 06:25:40 PM »
Moneyball is the cause of and the answer to all our problems. That is all I wish to contribute to this thread
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3809 on: April 13, 2012, 06:26:12 PM »
That macca is so good and reliable look:

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3810 on: April 13, 2012, 06:26:30 PM »
Racist.

Ahh fuck you! I only wrote the song 5 minutes ago and I've got to change the words for the PC brigade.

"We all dream of a team of red headed, fair skinned and possible freckled, and contrary to popular opinion, mostly generous and sensible drinking, Glaswegians"

It just doesn't flow as well, but if keeps you happy ya big footed galloot, who am I to complain   :D
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3811 on: April 13, 2012, 06:28:55 PM »
Ahh fuck you! I only wrote the song 5 minutes ago and I've got to change the words for the PC brigade.

"We all dream of a team of red headed, fair skinned and possible freckled, and contrary to popular opinion, mostly generous and sensible drinking, Glaswegians"

It just doesn't flow as well, but if keeps you happy ya big footed galloot, who am I to complain   :D


Can you change that to Dundonians that will sort it I reckon.













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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3812 on: April 13, 2012, 06:29:59 PM »
Ahh fuck you! I only wrote the song 5 minutes ago and I've got to change the words for the PC brigade.

"We all dream of a team of red headed, fair skinned and possible freckled, and contrary to popular opinion, mostly generous and sensible drinking, Glaswegians"

It just doesn't flow as well, but if keeps you happy ya big footed galloot, who am I to complain   :D

change that to Dundeeonians, and it's right on the money ;D

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3813 on: April 13, 2012, 06:32:04 PM »
Pedant

nah...did nothing for us...better off st Stoke
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3815 on: April 13, 2012, 06:33:36 PM »
Ahh fuck you! I only wrote the song 5 minutes ago and I've got to change the words for the PC brigade.

"We all dream of a team of red headed, fair skinned and possible freckled, and contrary to popular opinion, mostly generous and sensible drinking, Glaswegians"

It just doesn't flow as well, but if keeps you happy ya big footed galloot, who am I to complain   :D
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3816 on: April 13, 2012, 06:33:47 PM »
nah...did nothing for us...better off st Stoke

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3817 on: April 13, 2012, 06:34:58 PM »
And what the fuck does sinister mean? He was into witchcraft?...

It means he's left-handed. And a witch. Burn him!
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3818 on: April 13, 2012, 06:35:09 PM »
Not really - read his comments about Anfield and the Kop.

read where?
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3819 on: April 13, 2012, 06:35:53 PM »
It means he's left-handed. And a witch. Burn him!
Oh a Latin pun.....

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3820 on: April 13, 2012, 06:35:57 PM »
Unbelievable. Depresses me how so many fans just don't understand who Kenny Dalglish is and what he stands for. Pretty disgraceful actually.

Nope, what Kenny is to us has nothing to do with our future plan. He will remain the best player this club have ever seen and a fantastic manager as well.
That does not mean that we should not get a different DOF and a manager with their vision to take the club forwards for the next 5-10 years.
Are you suggesting that you honestly think that we got Kenny here to plan on how to take the club forward for the next decade or so?

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3821 on: April 13, 2012, 06:36:21 PM »
Director of Football is a role that would deprive Kenny of everything he loves most about being involved with a football club and leave him with most of what he probably dislikes.

Really?

When he eventually leaves the manager's job I hope he's given the equivalent of Bobby Charlton's role down the road. And I hope that's a long, long time away.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3822 on: April 13, 2012, 06:39:57 PM »
Nope, what Kenny is to us has nothing to do with our future plan. He will remain the best player this club have ever seen and a fantastic manager as well.
That does not mean that we should not get a different DOF and a manager with their vision to take the club forwards for the next 5-10 years.
Are you suggesting that you honestly think that we got Kenny here to plan on how to take the club forward for the next decade or so?

There are more ways than one to skin a cat. So he's 60. (something). Kenny as a manager who hands over to a seamless row of 'insiders' is surely a role-model that will have crossed their minds if they've studied their LFC. Kenny to Clarke, Clarke to Alonso - all sorts of possibilities - which would mean a return to a vision and a Dalgleishian influence on that vision which is entirely appropriate.
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3823 on: April 13, 2012, 06:41:06 PM »
Anyone else feel like we're groping around in the dark for a club ethos? "Pass and move" and "Keep it behind closed doors, it's the Liverpool Way" don't really seem to cut it as an overall strategy to me. And anything that FSG do will be undermined by their lack of football knowledge. Whoever they hire to inform them, their appointment will be undermined by something. If you look at the really successful clubs in Europe, there always seems to be a culture of the club's greats staying on as servants in an effective capacity.

We used to have that kind of tradition, but the bootroom days are long gone and you can't just establish one again, certainly not in the space of a season or two. At Barça and Bayern and Ajax and so on, many of their great players end up working back at the club, bringing their knowledge and legitimacy to the table. Ours seem to end up becoming shit media pundits who mainly play golf. Many of them of course still love the club, and there's nothing wrong with living that life it's worth noting, but in terms of taking the club forward it doesn't do much. Kenny's the last bastion of that time, but I think he's fighting a tough fight trying to keep it going. Worth noting that in Kenny's incredibly successful time as manager he was supported by the John Smith and Peter Robinson were were phenomenal football club men, the kind that have been sorely lacking from the backbone of the club for years under Hicks & Gillett and arguably under Parry and Moores (though they aren't in the same category as the cancers of course, just less competent than we wanted and needed). Even in his time as manager, you'd have to imagine that Kenny was more of a leader than a technical coach, as evidenced by anecdotes about his time at Blackburn that recently came out.

Perhaps Rafa was trying to build one when he finally got his contract and control of the youth system and Parry was gone, but everything else was collapsing all around him. Sad times for the club in general. Seem to have lost part of their identity and it will take time to build a new one and patience is forever in short supply when you haven't one a league for 20 something years and you're lurching from crisis to crisis and constantly "in a rebuilding phase"

Then again, perhaps this is unnecessarily bleak and a few more of those shots of the post go in, a few more of those pennos scored, we have 15 more points this season and things seem to be on track. Maybe the first teams results shouldn't dictate the entire state of the club? I just don't know.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3824 on: April 13, 2012, 06:41:57 PM »
If Cuyff is coming, he is coming for the long term. Kenny is not here for the future. He is just here to steady the ship and leave. I really get very pissed off when RAWKites start acting like Kenny is here to re-build the Liverpool dynasty. Just get over that idea please.

 :no This is really one of the stupidest comments I have heard here. Let me put in this way, Kenny and Liverpool cannot be separated. You cannot have one without the other. How do you know Kenny is not here for the future? On what basis do you come to this conclusion?

There is only one reason why Kenny is here, i.e to build a dynasty. Kenny is not here for the short term. He will not quit unless forced. I cannot think of any other way that Kenny would have taken on the job. What the owners decide is up to them.
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3825 on: April 13, 2012, 06:42:45 PM »
Really?

Tout?


1. Explain what he'd like - he didn't find it much fun before. Seriously, why are you questioning it? So Kenny ceases to be involved with the players and the matches but he'll deal with agents, scouts, etc. You really think that will satisfy him? After Blackburn and Celtic? His 'upstairs' role at Rangers drove him to the golf course after about a month.
2. Fatuous.
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3826 on: April 13, 2012, 06:46:19 PM »
Jesus wept... 96 pages and counting when we have our most important game of the season tomorrow?  ???

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3828 on: April 13, 2012, 06:46:41 PM »
Yeah and sadly he is not alone lately in here.

he is alone, there are some that question his managing ability at the moment and how right he is for the job, but i dont think anyone questions his passion or commitment to his long term service at liverpool football club.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3829 on: April 13, 2012, 06:46:44 PM »
Kenny is 61 born 1951 same year as me,  but is that even old for a top manager, just look up the East Lancs Road he has about 10 years on that guy, not sure how he compares age wise Wenger  and Redknapp, or Hodgson' 61 isnt old at least I hope not . He has a good 5-10 in him and I hope he is here for at least the 5 years.
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3830 on: April 13, 2012, 06:46:52 PM »

1. Explain what he'd like - he didn't find it much fun before. Seriously, why are you questioning it? So Kenny ceases to be involved with the players and the matches but he'll deal with agents, scouts, etc. You really think that will satisfy him? After Blackburn and Celtic? His 'upstairs' role at Rangers drove him to the golf course after about a month.
2. Fatuous.
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3831 on: April 13, 2012, 06:46:59 PM »
Jesus wept... 96 pages and counting when we have our most important game of the season tomorrow?  ???

But you turn it all around.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3832 on: April 13, 2012, 06:47:41 PM »
Jesus wept... 96 pages and counting when we have our most important game of the season tomorrow?  ???

It's something to discuss

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3833 on: April 13, 2012, 06:48:33 PM »

1. Explain what he'd like - he didn't find it much fun before. Seriously, why are you questioning it? So Kenny ceases to be involved with the players and the matches but he'll deal with agents, scouts, etc. You really think that will satisfy him? After Blackburn and Celtic? His 'upstairs' role at Rangers drove him to the golf course after about a month.
2. Fatuous.

Kenny at Rangers?  ;) ;D
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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3834 on: April 13, 2012, 06:48:50 PM »
Oh a Latin pun.....

Things are looking up I his thread.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3835 on: April 13, 2012, 06:49:37 PM »
huh?

"Get over that idea" - you're suggesting that we are all drooling fantasists because we happen to think it possible that the manager of the club, the man who wasn't sacked this week and who evidently has the club's backing has a role to play at the club for some time to come, while your entirely imaginary view is somehow superior.

Sorry mate, but you came off as a major bellend there.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3836 on: April 13, 2012, 06:50:25 PM »
Jesus wept... 96 pages and counting when we have our most important game of the season tomorrow?  ???

It's not like we're all playing and need to get some sleep, is it?

It is pretty big news when such an influential figure, someone who was earmarked for the role right at the start of FSG's reign, is booted out without an obvious explanation. There's bound to be speculation. It's a football forum.

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3837 on: April 13, 2012, 06:50:26 PM »
It's something to discuss

Yes, but more important than our match tomorrow?

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3838 on: April 13, 2012, 06:50:50 PM »
There are more ways than one to skin a cat. So he's 60. (something). Kenny as a manager who hands over to a seamless row of 'insiders' is surely a role-model that will have crossed their minds if they've studied their LFC. Kenny to Clarke, Clarke to Alonso - all sorts of possibilities - which would mean a return to a vision and a Dalgleishian influence on that vision which is entirely appropriate.
That model did work fantastically well for us. Shankly's first team, then rebuilt the team, passed it on to Paisley who also then added his touch on it then passed it on to Kenny and so on. The difference in my opinion however was that (Shankly-Paisley-Dalglish) line passed a successful team to their right hand man. Which ensured the longevity of the club's success on the pitch. France did the same as well in 1998 where the manager would wina competition and pass the team on to his assistant. I'm afraid that we don't have that type of success at the moment to do the process. That is particularly why I want a DOF so that we ensure stability in our set up. I don't mind having Kenny occupying that role given that he will be charged with setting our principal style that we commit to in all levels. My problem was that it seemed to me, particularly during the summer, was that Kenny was the one who dismantled our mantra of pass and move when he sold (or at least considered him second fiddle) Meireles (or Aquilani for that matter) and bought Adam and Carroll. That was no manager who wanted to play pass and move. He had a good team to build on and he had us playing some fantastic football. But it was Kenny himself who decided to change it up (according to Kenny who insist that they were his signings). That's why I'm hesitant whether he should be our DOF.
Plus Tiki-Taka or Total football coaches don't really have a different style from Shankly's , the style that Kenny himself had us playing in the 80s and last season. 

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Re: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent
« Reply #3839 on: April 13, 2012, 06:55:28 PM »
Aye, its sad fella.  Not sure if its a generation thing or people honestly believe the tripe that the London / Salford press spew out.
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