Topic: Comolli and Bruckner leave by mutual consent

[rocco]

Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish has said he is the one responsible for all Liverpool's recent transfers, following the departure of former director of football Damien Comolli.
 
Comolli, the director of football strategy at Anfield before being promoted last March, left the club by mutual consent on Thursday, after less than two years on Merseyside.
 
He previously had spells in similar roles at both Tottenham and Saint Etienne.

Comolli had come in for criticism over the lack of success for many of his signings - including the likes of Andy Carroll, Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam and Stewart Downing - for months preceding his abrupt departure. But Dalglish defended Comolli's body of work, saying that as manager it was him, not the Frenchman, who was the driving force behind Liverpool's transfer policy.
 
"I had a fantastic working and personal relationship with Damien since he came here," Dalglish said. "It is disappointing but I suppose there is not much in football which comes as a surprise.
 
"He has been really helpful in every transfer target we've gone for. Everyone who has come into the club since Damien has been here was of my choice. Once I made the choice who I wanted, Damien went away and did a fantastic job of bringing them in.
 
"It is sad to see anyone leave the football club and he goes with my best wishes and hopefully it is not long before we meet again. We wish him well with everything that he does."

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hmmmmmmmmmm, lets see what happens now.

is that from the official site ?

[QC]

I honestly think Kenny is headed down the same road.

[Upinsmoke]

Interesting, I fear for kenny long term, always got the impression Kenny and Damien worked closely together and that they were both responsible. However I also think Kenny wanted these players but it was Comolli who negotiated the prices.

Somebody said that Kenny may be moved upstairs in the summer. While I don't agree with the idea, I don't think its not possible.

[Libertine]

'do you mind if we sack you?'

'nope'

'okay, you're sacked'

 

[jDJ]

He was the director before he was the caretaker manager.

No he wasn't.  He had a role at the academy and an ambassadorial role.  The only time he's had anything like the responsibility of director of football was when he was asked to help find Rafa's replacement.

I don't have a fcking clue what Dalglish would be like as director of football.  It does seem he likes a British player profile, judging by the players he asked Comolli to source.  I'm wholly unconvinced by the strategy of concentrating on British players personally.

[MikaelLFC]

He has been sacked, it's just niceties. An american on here explained that it was worded exactly the way sacking are over there. The family issues thing is just to let him keep face.

Ah, nevermind my last post then.


But what will happen now? Will they appoint an other for his post or will Dalglish talk directly to the owners on which player(s) he'd like?

[The 5th Benitle]

um.... its a joke? He has been sacked, but they make it sound like he left by mutual consent.

Correct!

[barnseysleftpeg]

Am I the only person who thinks this is bad news for kenny?

No I do too.  I think it'll be all change in the summer.

[subroc]

The THREAD TITLE says  The word "sacked" (by mutual concent) that was my point!!!!

OK, fair enough.

[zen]

What would Kenny do as a DoF?  Same job as Commolli i.e. a glorified scout? 

control everything relating to the development of our future players, from grassroots academy through reserves and on to first team. This is where Kenny would absolutely steamroller over someone like Comolli, because he lives and breathes the club. If I were a talented 14 year old looking to get in to a PL club, I would find it hard to turn down someone like Dalglish. The man is the epitome of everything LFC, and if anyone can sell the club it would be him.

[karl1987]

is that from the official site ?

ESPN

[BirdBrain]

Comolli could have been an emergency keeper! This is not the time to be jettisoning staff.

[EmmaWatson]

Mark Lawrenson on BBC News : also probably dealing with agents which I don't think Kenny will particularly relish doing

[Tonyh]

You can't haha. You can leave by mutual consent you can't be sacked by mutual consent

Yes you can if you also agree that you were shite at your job/pissed too often/really shouldn't have twatted that supervisor etc.

[Alex7]

Well it's good to see our owners are ruthless. Definitely worried for Kenny though.

[jDJ]

control everything relating to the development of our future players, from grassroots academy through reserves and on to first team. This is where Kenny would absolutely steamroller over someone like Comolli, because he lives and breathes the club. If I were a talented 14 year old looking to get in to a PL club, I would find it hard to turn down someone like Dalglish. The man is the epitome of everything LFC, and if anyone can sell the club it would be him.

Our academy is fine as it is thanks - run by people with outstanding credentials in developing young players.

[subroc]

I was only kidding, like I was when I mentioned Rafa.

Kennys the manager and unless something changes I won't ask for anyone else to replace him. 

Back to what you said about pep, dunno if it was an article or on tv but sure there was a mention he'd like to go somewhere else due to people saying that team doesn't need a manager. Don't think it was a direct quote from him.

If he's an ambitious manager and ours for some reason came vacant then it's probably the most interesting project available to any top manager, don't you think?

My impression from the reports was that Guardiola kept his contract a rolling one to keep his playes on their toes and to keep complacency away.

[Didi_ram]

Mark Lawrenson on BBC News : also probably dealing with agents which I don't think Kenny will particularly relish doing

Quite true.
Think there'll be a new one.If not DoF.Mentioned by quite a few here,think the Newcastle Chief Scout could well be targeted.

[HarryLabrador]

I've been hoping to hear about plans for our new stadium or redevelopment from the owners. Isn't this why we are here in the first place, or rather why Moores sold? FSG will soon run out of fall guys and maybe the fans will start asking questions of them? The Comolli sacking is really here nor there in the grand scheme of things. He always plays the fall guy wherever he's been. My tuppence worth, I think they will sell on - no CL, no money for new stadium, it's rather grim to be honest.

[Libertine]

control everything relating to the development of our future players, from grassroots academy through reserves and on to first team. This is where Kenny would absolutely steamroller over someone like Comolli, because he lives and breathes the club. If I were a talented 14 year old looking to get in to a PL club, I would find it hard to turn down someone like Dalglish. The man is the epitome of everything LFC, and if anyone can sell the club it would be him.

in addition to adding much needed football experience and expertise on the board, assisiting with appointing managers etc.

there's a huge and vitally important role for him there should he want it at some point in the future and if FSG have the intelligence to realise it.

[lukeb1981]

That Kenny interview worries me a bit, for him to come out and say all transfers were down to him and his choices is strange, why does he feel he has to say that? This must be the reason Comolli got the bullet ,why else would Kenny try and defend him, i would not say Kenny is best pleased with the timing of this ,it could have waited till after the weekend.

[eirwen]

Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish has said he is the one responsible for all Liverpool's recent transfers, following the departure of former director of football Damien Comolli.
 
Comolli, the director of football strategy at Anfield before being promoted last March, left the club by mutual consent on Thursday, after less than two years on Merseyside.
 
He previously had spells in similar roles at both Tottenham and Saint Etienne.

Comolli had come in for criticism over the lack of success for many of his signings - including the likes of Andy Carroll, Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam and Stewart Downing - for months preceding his abrupt departure. But Dalglish defended Comolli's body of work, saying that as manager it was him, not the Frenchman, who was the driving force behind Liverpool's transfer policy.
 
"I had a fantastic working and personal relationship with Damien since he came here," Dalglish said. "It is disappointing but I suppose there is not much in football which comes as a surprise.
 
"He has been really helpful in every transfer target we've gone for. Everyone who has come into the club since Damien has been here was of my choice. Once I made the choice who I wanted, Damien went away and did a fantastic job of bringing them in.
 
"It is sad to see anyone leave the football club and he goes with my best wishes and hopefully it is not long before we meet again. We wish him well with everything that he does."

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hmmmmmmmmmm, lets see what happens now.

Where is that from? That is a really big statement. Now I wonder what this means for Kenny.

[gkmacca]

Yeh, it could be that Comolli genuinely has family issues. All this conjecture could be over nothing at all.

He's pregnant.

[olllie]

Ohhh so the job is up for grabs now!

If they appoint me I'll get us M'vila, Sissoko, Henri Saivet and other FM gods!

[BCCC]

It would seem on the face of it that transfer targets were mutually agreed but the fees and therefore value for money was Comolli's responsiblity.

Only an early assumption.

[stonty]

As long as he's gone they can call it whatever they like

[Tepid water]

He hasn't really left for family reasons.... Its quite obvious.

He's gone now to allow whoever takes over the role of transfers to have a decent run at the transfer market.


Probably, well seems the most likely explanation to me.

[flying red]

Family reasons or 'personal reasons' is the classic face-saving language used when executives are fired. Mutual consent means that the settlement package is big enough to buy the sacked exec's silence and maybe pay for gardening leave so that he can't take his current scouting info to another club before the next window closes.

As the expert on Moneyball, Comolli has been a spectacular flop. Lambert at Norwich and Rodgers at Swansea have given a masterclass in sourcing inexpensive (fee and wages) players who have impressed in the top division. Comolli has overpaid for potential and watched his signings fall below the levels they achieved at their previous clubs.

Interesting to see what FSG's next move is.

[AK47]

Maybe he has another job lined up??

[kiwiscouser]

well exactly. Rafa had an awesome first 11 and nothing beyond that.

slightly more than that but agreed the squad depth was never as strong as main rivals.  hardlyu surprising though....

[karl1987]

Where is that from? That is a really big statement. Now I wonder what this means for Kenny.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2012/04/12/liverpool-fc-manager-kenny-dalglish-sad-to-see-damien-comolli-leave-lfc-100252-30745739/

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/145704.html

[harleydanger]

Yeh, it could be that Comolli genuinely has family issues. All this conjecture could be over nothing at all.

Meeting was planned for after Wembley, Kenny asked it to be brought forward, Commolii walks out of meeting without a job.

[shelovesyou]

You can't haha. You can leave by mutual consent you can't be sacked by mutual consent

I think the title of the thread is tongue in cheek. Nothing to see here.

[Get]

if he had family issues he could be given time off till everything is ok with his family. He was Sacked, they told him in a nice way to fuck off.

now.. we all know why that is, poor season over all. so lets Hope Kenny isn't the next one out, if he is, there will be blood

[BCCC]

He hasn't really left for family reasons.... Its quite obvious.

He's gone now to allow whoever takes over the role of transfers to have a decent run at the transfer market.


Probably, well seems the most likely explanation to me.

FSG may have changed their strategy and the role may no longer exist.

[Dowling10]

Id say the issue with the title is more, how can you be sacked by mutual consent?

"You're getting sacked you alright?" "Really? Fuckin ell, bit harsh.." "Yeah, see you later." "Alright sound, gutted there like."

[Didi_ram]

Wonder if there may be more news BEFORE the semis.

[AlexBenitez]

Duncan Jenkins off twitter says interest in Cruyff

[Vulmea]

The timing is weird though isn't it?

Is it supposed to lift the players for Saturday that the person who helped sign them has been sacked and they are presumably thought of as mistakes?

Was he a disruptive influence around the place?

Did the players not like him?

Who does the timing help?

If there are genuine urgent family reasons then he could have disapeared quietly with little fuss until after the game.

If there are specific club reasons why, e.g. negotiations to be done, strategy to be written etc, then any announcement could easily have been made Sunday.

The old adage no time like the present doesn't really work when there's a game two days away on which your entire season is balanced.

unless of course there's good news on the way about a replacement?

[TLW 84]

Initially I had thought that Dalglish will continue to next season, but putting all the news logically together, I dont think he will anymore because FSG is showing throught his that they do not want last summer and this season to repeat itself and they are bringing an entirely diferent set up to replace the current one because if they cannot trust the guy who was hunting down the players and negotiating with them, they will not want to trust the person who approved the player selections either. The DOF is probably being replaced now because they want the new DOF in place to chase the new player signings for next season. They are leaving Dalglish for the end of the season so as no to disrupt the team and for the lack of any credible stand ins, but I suspect they have already spoken to him and he will probably be bumped upstairs or head up the academy next season.  The new manager will be brought in at the end of the season.

Without giving Kenny assurances, that would disrupt the the team anyway. That would be silly when we're chasing the FA Cup. I think Kenny is here as manager next season.