I'm still struggling to see what your actual point is in relation to what we've been discussing mind. You seem to be just making one or two line responses that don't really address any of the actual points raised or put forward a recognisable argument of your own.
You won't see, in the same way that Mozart as you put it would've been a shite composer without an instrument. The reason being is that you don't want to see, your views are sacred and that's it. You latch on to others who share your views because they boost your ego and use your skill with the written word to belittle others. Your not interested in any points put forward other than to try to score points against them.
I'm only stating what I know to be true when I was involved in academy football and what a ruthless area of the game that is or was. I accept things may have changed and I don't know for sure if they have so on that I can't comment. The only point of yours that I contested was when you stated academies build squads and from my experience they don't they develop individual talent.
The reason they develop talent is that very rarely are there enough players in a catchment area of the same age that come through to make a capable squad. The only exception was the manc side of '92 but they weren't restricted as the rules were different. In fact academies didn't come into play until the late 90's. A rule used to be in place and may still be that academies can't pull in players more than an hours drive away. This further impedes academies when it comes to assembling a squad and makes areas like the North West of England with many academies very competitive. It all comes down to the scouting network and not just their ability to spot but to convince youngsters to join their academy for a trial.
I know of a few illegal 'sweetners' to temp parents and youngsters to sign forms. I know of another young player who was tempted away from one club to another and they ended up having to pay Ģ200,000 via tribunal. The point of this is that there just isn't enough players of the level required to fill each academy level. Hence my point that the players who the staff think have a chance are the ones that get the focus and this includes having "disposable" players around them to help them develop.
Things change at 16/17 when our system allows us to bring in international players from further afield because our employment laws allow us to pay them. This is how Arsenal managed to prize the young Fabregas away from Barca because in Spain they couldn't sign pro until 17 or 18 (I can't remeber the exact numbers).
There are various philosophies of football and of developing footballers but they don't become a squad in this country as far as I'm aware. The likes of Carragher, Owen and Gerrard are all successes of our youth system and in the case of Owen and Gerrard changed the way the 1st team approached the game from a playing system point of view. They had attributes that gave us an edge in games and different managers set the team up accordingly to get the best out of them.
In Spain it is slightly different because their 'B' teams are allowed to develop in the Spanish lower leagues where they can hone thier playing systems to dovetail into the 1st team and why the likes of Rafa Benitez and Arsene Wenger are advocates of this; both trying to bring in the same system here. Our current system only allows us send players out on loan where they are subject to different methods but in the hope they can cut their teeth before get an opportunity with us.
Our entire system is focused on individuals until they get to train with the 1st team and that's the point I am trying to make. I'm not saying it is ideal and in many respects the Spanish system is far better at building a unit.
