Author Topic: Andy Carroll: Future uncertain.... ? (Read 225178 times)

IndianRed · « **Reply #400 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:29:35 PM »

Quote from: jooneyisdagod on May 5, 2012, 07:23:27 PM

We were awful before he came on today. But that isn't always the case.

It isn't Carroll's fault that he finds himself at the end of 60 yard missiles from our defence. To his credit, he does an admirable job of getting those balls under his control and laying them off to a teammate. Dalglish needs to utilise a system where the midfield gets as close to the attack as possible so that Carroll has enough runners to latch on to his flick-ons. And for that to happen, we need to start playing a higher line. Today was baffling how deep we played for the most part. And that was without Carragher in the side.

The problem is people seeing Carroll as part of the problem, when all in all, the lad is simply suffering from his teammates being let go scot-free by Kenny when they keep taking the easy way out by pumping long balls to him instead of trying to make him the focal point of our attacks.

Matt8Pie · « **Reply #401 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:29:42 PM »

Andy Carroll, well done lad.

abhred · « **Reply #402 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:29:43 PM »

Quote from: jooneyisdagod on May 5, 2012, 07:23:27 PM

We were awful before he came on today. But that isn't always the case.

That goal off the line, and the build up to that. That was pretty decent football. Just 'cos he's big doesn't mean we like Stoke. When he plays, Suarez gets the change to pull or drop deeper, and that's when his creativity comes into play.

Varun · « **Reply #403 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:29:55 PM »

Quote from: abhred on May 5, 2012, 07:22:13 PM

Still don't get this. Was our football in the first half somehow better than when he came on?

exactly.... if carroll keeps putting in performances like that on a regular basis, i would happily go with any style of play that's compatible with that. I, for one, was MUCH more entertained by our second half play than that in the first half.. atleast in terms of desire if nothing.

Haemogoblin · « **Reply #404 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:30:04 PM »

Got bile rising up my throat right now, but not a bit of that is for Andy Carroll. Big game player, and if he puts that much heart into future games, he can be a real asset to this side.

For me, only Andy, Agger, Skrtel, Johnson and Gerrard really turned up for the battle, which is pretty horrendous for an FA Cup final that could have saved our season. I don't have a problem with Suarez 'cause he was totally up there on his own for much of it, and looked lively when Carroll arrived and made such a phenomenal impact on those around him.

Andy comes out of this game having earned a huge amount of respect for the sheer will to win he showed, eclipsed everyone else on that pitch. Well done man.

gregorio · « **Reply #405 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:30:05 PM »

Hope Andy gets a surprise run out for England on the summer to keep momentum up for him. Yes, risk of injury but would be a good boost for him

Melbred · « **Reply #406 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:30:33 PM »

Well done Andy, the only player in red who showed some fucking balls tonight.

QC · « **Reply #407 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:30:50 PM »

I was critical of Carroll. Today he showed some ridiculous ability. If he can continue this form, i'd be happy for him to stay at Liverpool.

jfc · « **Reply #408 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:31:05 PM »

he finally seemed to find his fitness around january/february. and he's been showing great signs of doing what he does best, i really do expect him to absolutely kick on next season, he sohwed great feet for the goal aswell which is another thing he's improved on.

Cpt_Reina · « **Reply #409 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:31:43 PM »

Our best passing move of the game came from Carroll bringing the ball down, a few neat passes and then him being played through on goal.

Its a myth that we dont play good football with him on the pitch. We do.

And its also more effective.

HighSix · « **Reply #410 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:32:17 PM »

Quote from: Cpt_Reina on May 5, 2012, 07:24:24 PM

Cos we play like Barca otherwise?

We dont turn in to Stoke when he comes on the pitch. We play better football with him on it.

He was brilliant today but we would never play that direct & with so many bodies further up the pitch week in week out, the situation dictated it. After a performence on such a stage a good time to sell this summer & get some more suited strikers.

Coolie High · « **Reply #411 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:10 PM »

Quote from: HighSix on May 5, 2012, 07:32:17 PM

He was brilliant today but we would never play that direct & with so many bodies further up the pitch week in week out, the situation dictated it. After a performence on such a stage a good time to sell this summer & get some more suited strikers.

This.

rednich85 · « **Reply #412 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:15 PM »

Quote from: Cpt_Reina on May 5, 2012, 07:31:43 PM

Our best passing move of the game came from Carroll bringing the ball down, a few neat passes and then him being played through on goal.

Its a myth that we dont play good football with him on the pitch. We do.

And its also more effective.

Its only a myth when Carra isn't on the pitch.

mtpeters · « **Reply #413 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:35:33 PM »

Quote from: Cpt_Reina on May 5, 2012, 07:31:43 PM

Our best passing move of the game came from Carroll bringing the ball down, a few neat passes and then him being played through on goal.

Its a myth that we dont play good football with him on the pitch. We do.

And its also more effective.

I agree completely. Carroll is going to be a beast, and to all you who say we just hoofed the ball to for the second half, that's bullshit. Yeah, we did some, and he won every damn thing passed to him, too. You don't have to play like Stoke to get the best out of him.

Brentie · « **Reply #414 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:35:35 PM »

Absolutely magnificent when he came on. Out of this world good.

El_Pistolero · « **Reply #415 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:36:08 PM »

That was a top, top finish too.

NZ Red · « **Reply #416 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:36:22 PM »

I've been critical of him, but my word he looked an absolute beast out there today. Well in Andy, love seeing that effort

sinnermichael · « **Reply #417 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:36:44 PM »

you won't find a better 25 minute cameo all season. was immense

GBF · « **Reply #418 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:36:52 PM »

somehow he turns into a monster whenever the Budweiser's ad is on

HariLFC · « **Reply #419 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:36:52 PM »

Proved today that he's a Liverpool player. He's going nowhere, he's being supplemented with better players, we can afford to get another striker.

Notayesman · « **Reply #420 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:37:33 PM »

Quote from: HighSix on May 5, 2012, 07:32:17 PM

He was brilliant today but we would never play that direct & with so many bodies further up the pitch week in week out, the situation dictated it. After a performence on such a stage a good time to sell this summer & get some more suited strikers.

Disagree completely with this. Carroll showed today the player he can become for Liverpool. I certainly hope he sticks it out and keeps producing performances like that one. Let's not forget he's generally been on an upward curve over the last few months.

Varun · « **Reply #421 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:37:48 PM »

Quote from: jfc on May 5, 2012, 07:31:05 PM

he finally seemed to find his fitness around january/february. and he's been showing great signs of doing what he does best, i really do expect him to absolutely kick on next season, he sohwed great feet for the goal aswell which is another thing he's improved on.

a thing i've noticed in previous scenarios like that i.e. carroll having the ball at his feet inside the box and going for a little too many touches, he used to scuff it or givee too much time for the defender to organise himself. This time though what he did with the ball when the ball came to his feet was absolutely spot on and i think that speaks volumes about his confidence and belief in himself at the moment.

Hazell · « **Reply #422 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:37:48 PM »

Quote from: HariLFC on May 5, 2012, 07:36:52 PM

Proved today that he's a Liverpool player. He's going nowhere, he's being supplemented with better players, we can afford to get another striker.

I hope so. He was unplayable today.

Shirley. · « **Reply #423 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:38:01 PM »

Well in, Andy. Did the shirt proud.

El Campeador · « **Reply #424 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:38:02 PM »

That fucking Geordie is a beast, eh.

lfcmaster · « **Reply #425 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:38:37 PM »

was today caroll first goal as a sub ?

artanis · « **Reply #426 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:38:55 PM »

Grat work by Carroll, soooooooooooooo proud of him today. Should have started. Shame on the mods for locking the post game thread. Shameful.

BEAST · « **Reply #427 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:39:17 PM »

a summer spent lifting weights, doing plyometrics and sprint work coupled hopefully with an aggressive attitude and a chip on his shoulder and he will become a real player

IndianRed · « **Reply #428 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:39:35 PM »

Just get a poacher like KJH into the side, play him alongside Carroll. Get Suarez playing in a free role behind the two of them and watch them rip defences apart.

J-Mc- · « **Reply #429 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:39:45 PM »

Quote from: artanis on May 5, 2012, 07:38:55 PM

Grat work by Carroll, soooooooooooooo proud of him today. Should have started. Shame on the mods for locking the post game thread. Shameful.

Not really considering the amount of shite getting posted.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #430 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:40:04 PM »

Well done big man. Let's have more of that next season.

Before the game I thought their centre backs would ne happier facing him than our smaller, nippier forwards but he was an absolute beast. Well in big man.

lfcshaunod · « **Reply #431 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:40:43 PM »

Proving a lot of wankers wrong.

Well played lad.

OrangeMochaFraps · « **Reply #432 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:40:45 PM »

You know what? I like this Carroll lad. I like him a lot.

Tepid water · « **Reply #433 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:41:53 PM »

Lord..... That's the Carroll we signed....

If we could get him playing like that in half his games and give him some fucking service, then maybe just maybe, he could be a good signing.... Sauréz played better when he came on too...

deadlybuzz · « **Reply #434 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:42:00 PM »

Fantastic cameo from Andy. Hope there's more to come in the future from him here and he isn't shipped off.

rowan_d · « **Reply #435 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:42:04 PM »

In the last month or so, he's played consistently well and scored a few important goals. I have no doubt that he's earned another season at least. But has he shown enough to be in the first 11 next season? Does the change in tactics needed to implement him mean that he'll have to be a second option? Will we buy a striker with a better record, and put Carroll in the Kuyt camp, starting 15-20 matches and being a regularly used substitute? I hope it doesn't happen, but will we sell him and reinvest in a another striker?

He's shown that when he's up for it and is the focal point, he's pretty damn hard to handle. But he's also shown that when things aren't going for him he's ponderous on the ball, has the balance of a drunk fat man doing an impression of a mountain goat and can be reluctant to get into goalscoring positions.

What do you think we will do with him from here on in, and what would you do if you were in Kenny's shoes?

Car · « **Reply #436 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:42:07 PM »

Very proud of big Andy today. Win every aerial duel. Looks a lot slimmer too.

Siannn. · « **Reply #437 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:42:46 PM »

Only positive to be taken from tonight. Starting to look like a Liverpool striker. Well in.

Finn Solomon · « **Reply #438 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:42:48 PM »

He should start every game. The hard work's been paying off.

And Could He Play · « **Reply #439 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:42:49 PM »

Quote from: Matt8Pie on May 5, 2012, 07:29:42 PM

Andy Carroll, well done lad.

he will be an absolute monster next season, there is no two ways about it.