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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #160 on: April 11, 2012, 06:51:51 AM »
Soon time to stop feeling sorry for Andy and start feeling sorry for Premier League defenders. Beast mode activated

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #161 on: April 11, 2012, 07:12:58 AM »
Glad he got the winner

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #162 on: April 11, 2012, 07:17:21 AM »
He scored so the pattern says he will be benched
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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #163 on: April 11, 2012, 07:32:01 AM »
the boy has got good press.i only hope that we dont bite the bullet and get a big name striker this summer.caroll should be given a proper chance.

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #165 on: April 11, 2012, 09:50:50 AM »
I've been one of his most vocal critics on here but I'm genuinely made up for him after last night. I watched his goal like 10 times last night and couldn't stop smiling. I didn't see the whole game as I was working but judging by a lot of the comments on him, he did well and hopefully as people have said, going to Newcastle last week has given him a wake up call.
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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #166 on: April 11, 2012, 09:57:14 AM »
I've been one of his most vocal critics on here but I'm genuinely made up for him after last night. I watched his goal like 10 times last night and couldn't stop smiling. I didn't see the whole game as I was working but judging by a lot of the comments on him, he did well and hopefully as people have said, going to Newcastle last week has given him a wake up call.
Pretty much my thoughts! Really hope he kicks on from here.


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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #167 on: April 11, 2012, 10:27:32 AM »
Big response after such a nightmare mistake at Newcastle. Fair play to him.
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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #168 on: April 11, 2012, 12:38:44 PM »
Any one know what sort of beers and tikka masalas give you a figure like Big Andy?  The ones I drink/eat aren't giving same results :P



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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #169 on: April 11, 2012, 12:46:35 PM »
Any words anywhere from KK about Carroll last night?

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #170 on: April 11, 2012, 01:57:30 PM »
love that he blew a kiss to the crowd after his goal despite the massive amount of stick he gets

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #171 on: April 11, 2012, 02:01:01 PM »
I know this is a terrible shout, but as to who it is: I know and can't say.

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #172 on: April 11, 2012, 02:02:12 PM »
I know this is a terrible shout, but as to who it is: I know and can't say.

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Kevin Nolan?

Scott Parker.

Peter Crouch?

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #173 on: April 11, 2012, 02:03:39 PM »
I know this is a terrible shout, but as to who it is: I know and can't say.

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #174 on: April 11, 2012, 02:04:47 PM »
Thought he was good last night, showed some nice touches, worked hard and deserved the winner.

Still think its daft of anyone to think we dont need to sign another top striker though.
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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #175 on: April 11, 2012, 02:17:55 PM »
He's been improving for a while. Goal will do wonders for his confidence. He must play against the bitters saturday.
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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #176 on: April 11, 2012, 02:32:37 PM »
He's been a good target man for a while now and most of his passes and flicks are really good, now that he's getting into scoring positions more and more it looks like we could have a much better player next season.

It's unfortunate that so many of our players have been written off so early when  a lot of them have been improving over the course of the year.

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #177 on: April 11, 2012, 02:39:46 PM »
Kevin Nolan?

Scott Parker.

Peter Crouch?

C'mon!

Was thinking maybe David Bentley.

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #178 on: April 11, 2012, 02:42:28 PM »
I know this is a terrible shout, but as to who it is: I know and can't say.

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #179 on: April 11, 2012, 02:49:17 PM »
Its Danny Murphy

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #180 on: April 11, 2012, 02:56:35 PM »
Kevin Nolan?

Scott Parker.

Peter Crouch?

C'mon!

Fuck it. It's Gomis.

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #181 on: April 11, 2012, 03:02:10 PM »
Fuck it. It's Gomis.

Can someone please explain this joke!

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #182 on: April 11, 2012, 03:04:14 PM »
Its Danny Murphy

I thought everyone knew it was Spud. Unless it changes like the stig.
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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #183 on: April 11, 2012, 03:11:49 PM »
Can someone please explain this joke!

Basically Thommo (usually reliable ITK I think), had information on a possible striker being signed in January and was getting pestered over who it was etc., eventually he crumbled and said 'Fuck it. It's Gomis.', Gomis didn't sign and the rest is history.

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #184 on: April 11, 2012, 03:14:13 PM »
love that he blew a kiss to the crowd after his goal despite the massive amount of stick he gets

I thought that too. Loved that.
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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #185 on: April 11, 2012, 03:16:03 PM »
Fuck it. It's Gomis.

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #186 on: April 11, 2012, 03:18:17 PM »
I thought everyone knew it was Spud. Unless it changes like the stig.


Sorry didn't know that. But its certainly him.

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #187 on: April 11, 2012, 03:26:22 PM »
Couldn't care less. You certainly don't seem to be defending him now.

How many managers slate players in public? Of course he's going to be encouraging and supportive. Anyway, he has to be - he was the one who bought him for an extortionate amount, hasn't got the best out of him, and isn't playing him. Besides, so many fans are keen to point out that Kenny doesn't actually say what he thinks in post-match conferences, so maybe he doesn't have faith.

I'll be perfectly honest and admit that I couldn't see the game so have only seen the replay. Looks like an awful dive but why would he do it? If he appeals for a penalty then yeah, it is... but I'm not sure that he does. He can be quite clumsy, and I think, unfortunately, he might've just tripped. I'll happily accept proof to the contrary but that makes most sense thus far, especially considering his reaction to the ref and then walking down the tunnel later on. If you had a chance to score against your old team to shut the fans up, wouldn't you be dying to take it? And don't say that he didn't have the bottle to score -  what do you think happened tonight (and in other games where he's not only scored but scored important goals, e.g. Everton, Wolves)? Chances are he fell, regretted it (obviously) and then was labelled a diver and cheat, as well as not good enough (from our own, embarrassingly, as well as the opposition support and referee). No wonder he's annoyed. I don't necessarily disagree with what you have to say about Kenny being strong enough to stick to his convictions but in the position we were in it was still idiotic and did nothing to help him - then again, he's done little to help him all season.

After the time he's had at the club so far I don't blame him. 'Storming down the tunnel' - is that it? No other evidence to use against him? What a shock. Barely worth mentioning. We may as well have sold Gerrard for "questioning" a Torres sub under Benitez if that's what you're so offended by. And Kenny "rewarded" him with a start tonight... only because of a cup final, and left him out against Villa.

Oh and once again - even with ten men - Carroll starts: we win, he doesn't: we don't.

Not true, but okay. He's played a bit - in and out of the team. Destroyed City last season but was otherwise injured in a season where he was on course for over 20 league goals for Newcastle! Cup final is one of the only big games he's played in... dropped for most of the games against the big teams, and delivers when he isn't. Got the assist for the winning goal against Man Utd in the FA Cup otherwise we wouldn't have Saturday at all. Had a good run of form between January and March but was then inexplicably dropped (as well as very capably standing in for Suarez during his ban). We've had nothing to play for recently in the league and he has barely played... again, when he has, he's threatened and even scored the winning goal for us today.

And I bet you anything - just like Maxi (and maybe even Bellamy, sadly) - he won't start on Saturday, because Kenny inexplicably has his favourites who are far less dangerous.


There is nothing to defend, he had a good game. So why would I defend him after a good game? Thing is there is no grey area on this site, none. He is either shite or he is 'a beast'. When he is neither, he is a decent footballer, potentially a good one in the right formation, with the correct service and when he has his head together. And you might not be arsed, but I have backed him, consistently. I've already said on a number of occasions I haven't wanted a player to do well at Liverpool as much as I want Andy to since Lucas was getting the ridiculous criticism he got at the start of his Anfield career.

As for the incidents at St James' Park. He dived. It was hugely embarrassing for him and for the Club.
What happened when he went off was unprofessional, seriously unprofessional. He should have stuck around to support his teammates, but instead he stormed off down the tunnel. And as for the parallel to Gerrard's response to the Torres substitution against Birmingham, I thought that was terrible captaincy from him, he ought to have been a) supporting the young forward who had come on and b) respecting his managers decisions. I don't like seeing dissent amongst the ranks, not when a manager in under pressure and the Club is in a tough position. That applies to both instances, and I think both players were out of order. So I'm consistent to this end.

Managers publicly criticise players all of the time, you can look as far back as the weekend for Mancini's comments re: Ballotelli. Kenny has defended him to the hilt in the press and has given him a number of opportunities to prove himself. He has started on 24 occasions this season, and made a further 18 appearances from the bench, he is hardly underused. As for how you would characterise his performances during the Suarez ban, I'll agree to disagree. But he has featured in almost all of the 'big games' starting against Everton, Manchester United, and Cardiff City this season. Faith? Kenny has shown plenty of it.

As for the 'Carroll starts: we win. Carroll doesn't: we don't' argument, that is extremely simplistic, and as you are a fan of Gerrard comparisons; Liverpool have won just one league game in which Gerrard has started. Does that make him the problem? I doubt you'd agree to that...

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #188 on: April 11, 2012, 03:52:06 PM »
More performances like last nights will do Andy a world of good. Part of the frustrations with Andy has been his application and consistency, i'd like Kenny to provide him that platform to build that consistency by seeing him start at Wembley. If he applies himself as he did last night, he'll do well against the bitters.

Playing as he did last night, he offers this squad something and i'd like to see whether he can acquire any consistency between now and the end of the season, but that means starting the lad week in, week out.
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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #189 on: April 11, 2012, 04:00:58 PM »
Deserves a start on Sat, his presence in the air will be valueable in both boxes.

I really like Andy Carroll, can't be easy seeing Newcastle doing so well without him, with a load of new heroes up there as well for the geordies to cheer.

Made up for him last night, boss celebration as well.I want him to get a run of games now to prove himself, along with Suarez they have the potential of a lethal strike force.

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #190 on: April 11, 2012, 04:03:12 PM »
how about playing him every league game, hes a lad bit like  heskey who thrives on confidence, dont mess him around specially after hes scored in the bitters game at the pit, just get the feeling if he was managed properly hed score for fun.
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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #191 on: April 11, 2012, 04:05:51 PM »
Good to see him score. I wasn 't to impressed with the other 90minutes but if you win the game for us I couldn 't care less. Still a long way to go, but I hope he proves me wrong.

I would like to see him get a run like Crouch was given before he started doing something right.
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« Reply #192 on: April 11, 2012, 04:16:57 PM »
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« Reply #193 on: April 11, 2012, 04:38:10 PM »
Basically Thommo (usually reliable ITK I think), had information on a possible striker being signed in January and was getting pestered over who it was etc., eventually he crumbled and said 'Fuck it. It's Gomis.', Gomis didn't sign and the rest is history.

It was Thommo. He was teasing about who "the target" was. He then lasted all of ten minutes before posting. 'Fuck it. It's Gomis.'

I then split the post (and the replies to it) out from the general topic, and changed the title to  'Fuck it. It's Gomis.'  Which then became a bit of a transfer forum meme, for which I feel responsible and wholeheartedly apology. Still at least it was not Liverpool Sign Bent.
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« Reply #194 on: April 11, 2012, 11:41:01 PM »


Get the fucking in Andy! I hope you'll get your ice cream from Mohammad.
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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #195 on: April 12, 2012, 12:43:01 AM »
Made up for him to score the winner for us last night!

Dont think he will start on saturday though

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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #196 on: April 12, 2012, 12:44:55 AM »
Hope he starts Saturday, only way he'll succeed is to get prolonged play time.
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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #197 on: April 12, 2012, 12:47:21 PM »
Have Melbred, Zeus, Grkstav and  Camarero25s  heads all spontaneously combusted or something?
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« Reply #198 on: April 12, 2012, 01:19:00 PM »


Get the fucking in Andy! I hope you'll get your ice cream from Mohammad.
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Re: The Secret Footballer: You must feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Well I do.
« Reply #199 on: April 12, 2012, 01:27:58 PM »
It's unfortunate that so many of our players have been written off so early when  a lot of them have been improving over the course of the year.

A lot of our players have been improving? How do you explain the form then?
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