Author Topic: Papiss Cissé (Read 9625 times)

Mr F · « **Reply #40 on:** April 6, 2012, 06:42:00 PM »

Be interesting to see if he can keep it going if/when defences learn how to play him. Ba's statistics look good but he hasn't scored in the last 8, the exact same can happen to him. Would like to see this thread in a year's time.

johnybarnes · « **Reply #41 on:** April 6, 2012, 06:48:47 PM »

Quote from: Mr F on April 6, 2012, 06:42:00 PM

Be interesting to see if he can keep it going if/when defences learn how to play him. Ba's statistics look good but he hasn't scored in the last 8, the exact same can happen to him. Would like to see this thread in a year's time.

Ba hasn't scored since Cisse joined, to be fair Ba has been shifted out wide to accommodate.

justsean · « **Reply #42 on:** April 6, 2012, 06:56:01 PM »

To be fair, it's not like Newcastle unearthed some hidden gem. There were loads of fans on here in the transfer forum saying he'd be a great buy for us ... then BAM he was signed up to Newcastle.

Adam_LFC · « **Reply #43 on:** April 6, 2012, 06:59:36 PM »

Quote from: justsean on April 6, 2012, 06:56:01 PM

To be fair, it's not like Newcastle unearthed some hidden gem. There were loads of fans on here in the transfer forum saying he'd be a great buy for us ... then BAM he was signed up to Newcastle.

This

We rarely go for the obvious choice.

RyanBabel19 · « **Reply #44 on:** April 6, 2012, 07:03:34 PM »

Judging by the RAWK laws of football signings based upon a teams transfer funds and previous seasons end league position papiss cissé is a complete myth and does not exist. All goals scored by this myth were actually scored by another newcastle player and the myth was never signed by them

Phil M · « **Reply #45 on:** April 6, 2012, 07:06:16 PM »

I said on here weeks ago 9 million for Cisse was one of the best bits of business that's been done for a long time. Incredibly astute transfer. He's boss. Newcastle are privileged to have such a front pairing.

Cruiser · « **Reply #46 on:** April 6, 2012, 07:15:15 PM »

Hes been a good signing because he fits perfectly in their high flying team which is buzzing with confidence. Theres no guarantee he'd be banging in the goals if we had signed him, in fact quite the opposite and RAWK would be going ape shit at another shitty Comolli signing.

Its just the old cliche, some players click at certain clubs and others don't. Carroll was good at Newcastle, but is shit with us.

All goes down to team dynamics and coaching.

Rossie · « **Reply #47 on:** April 6, 2012, 07:18:44 PM »

Quote from: Upinsmoke on April 6, 2012, 06:05:16 PM

No value in January.....

I haven't commented negatively against the way the club has been run but that comment drives me mad and did so at the time. To me, anyone coming out with this at the club sounds like someone who's not interested in improving the club at every given opportunity.

Aristotle · « **Reply #48 on:** April 6, 2012, 07:24:26 PM »

I'm amazed more clubs weren't after him. 22 goals last season, second only to Super Mario and he did it with Freiburg! Quality player and a real shrewd signing for them.

lucas65 · « **Reply #49 on:** April 6, 2012, 07:27:34 PM »

Just goes to show there are bargains out there. Good bit of business.

kates bush · « **Reply #50 on:** April 6, 2012, 07:27:38 PM »

Top drawer player, I knew nothing about him before he signed for Newcastle, now he is banging them in against teams like us ( ok his first goal came off the post and went in and his second was offside but nevertheless the man moves like mercurial silk) and Swansea, well done Newcastle another signing has paid off for you.

I wish we could have signed all those players Newcastle did cos then we might be going for fifth place and not actually won anything, but of course winning things is shit now.

liverpoolfan1 · « **Reply #51 on:** April 6, 2012, 07:32:22 PM »

Quote from: kates bush on April 6, 2012, 07:27:38 PM

I wish we could have signed all those players Newcastle did cos then we might be going for fifth place and not actually won anything, but of course winning things is shit now.

Yes of course because Newcastle started off at exactly the same level as us.

AJG · « **Reply #52 on:** April 6, 2012, 07:57:20 PM »

I don't think he's actually that good. can finish though, just got loads of confidence at the minute, can't do any wrong. Saying that still fantastic signing for them

PhiLFC#1 · « **Reply #53 on:** April 6, 2012, 08:14:43 PM »

Quote from: justsean on April 6, 2012, 06:56:01 PM

To be fair, it's not like Newcastle unearthed some hidden gem. There were loads of fans on here in the transfer forum saying he'd be a great buy for us ... then BAM he was signed up to Newcastle.

That's the answer, the Newcastle scouts must be reading these forums, the bastards

owens_2k · « **Reply #54 on:** April 6, 2012, 09:16:52 PM »

His first goal against Villa was a sliced effort right into the top corner, and for me he's been riding a confidence wave ever since. Class finish for the second today though.

Bendomac · « **Reply #55 on:** April 6, 2012, 09:38:21 PM »

Quote from: cissepower on April 6, 2012, 06:13:00 PM

Can we sign Newcastle's scouts?

whats the point, all they do is base there signings off football manager and goal tally's and hear say anyone could do that

PhilV · « **Reply #56 on:** April 6, 2012, 09:43:39 PM »

His second goal today was just... lovely

greyfade · « **Reply #57 on:** April 6, 2012, 09:48:15 PM »

If he was here, he'd be hitting the woodwork every f***ing time.

GBF · « **Reply #58 on:** April 6, 2012, 10:05:52 PM »

Quote from: greyfade on April 6, 2012, 09:48:15 PM

If he was here, he'd be hitting the woodwork every f***ing time.

or play deeper in midfield

kates bush · « **Reply #59 on:** April 6, 2012, 10:14:06 PM »

Quote from: GBF on April 6, 2012, 10:05:52 PM

or play deeper in midfield

Or get called a c*nt and have scurrilous rumours about his social life discussed by halfwits that don't have a clue.

thx4thememeories · « **Reply #60 on:** April 6, 2012, 10:52:44 PM »

A couple of people were banging on about him before he signed for Newcastle saying we should sign him can't remember who they were though...

redoneusa · « **Reply #61 on:** April 6, 2012, 11:14:13 PM »

Either way, the money paid for him matched against the results he's given are very decent. Also those numbers highlight that Bellamy has been one of our best signings this year and he was free.

Saint Kopite™ · « **Reply #62 on:** April 6, 2012, 11:37:59 PM »

Cisse is a good striker but like some others have said he is riding high on confidence right now and everything he hits seems to be a goal.

something awful · « **Reply #63 on:** April 7, 2012, 12:06:34 AM »

Why do all the people that complain about us buying Adam/Downing etc because they had a good season then complain about us not buying Ba or Cisse after a good half season? This guy will cool down and be good, but not great. Or maybe fall into the Amr Zaki level and simply become irrelevant weeks after being linked with everyone and their dog.

Y2J · « **Reply #64 on:** April 7, 2012, 12:17:30 AM »

Quote from: something awful on April 7, 2012, 12:06:34 AM

Why do all the people that complain about us buying Adam/Downing etc because they had a good season then complain about us not buying Ba or Cisse after a good half season? This guy will cool down and be good, but not great. Or maybe fall into the Amr Zaki level and simply become irrelevant weeks after being linked with everyone and their dog.

Adam had a half of a good season with Blackpool and then when the eyes were on him in the second half of the season failed miserably. Downing shone in a mediocre Aston Villa team which is his level.

Ba has a 1 goal every 2 games in Germany and then after that in West Ham, Cisse was banging them in France & Germany before coming. It isn't like they all of a sudden became goal scorers, this is something they have been doing all their careers.

chris18lfc · « **Reply #65 on:** April 7, 2012, 12:20:49 AM »

Quote from: something awful on April 7, 2012, 12:06:34 AM

Why do all the people that complain about us buying Adam/Downing etc because they had a good season then complain about us not buying Ba or Cisse after a good half season? This guy will cool down and be good, but not great. Or maybe fall into the Amr Zaki level and simply become irrelevant weeks after being linked with everyone and their dog.

I think the complaints are because they've (Ba and Cisse) had at least a few seasons of success performance wise before moving and have continued that on at Newcastle whereas we signed players who only really had 1 or half a season of success. Ba and Cisse have just carried on at similar levels of success. Our signings haven't carried on their form.

Of course you could be right and they could turn into Zaki's. Alternatively they could just carry on at the level they've displayed for a number of seasons now (albeit in other leagues mainly).

wardides · « **Reply #66 on:** April 7, 2012, 12:23:11 AM »

Why are people talking as if he has been picked from the depths of a foreign nation, in a poor league? 65 league games for Freidburg and 37 goals, clear second to Gomez last season in top scorer in Germany and no doubt would have been up there again this season. In the Bundesliga, a league which in my opinion is pretty much similar to the Premier league in terms of quality, not far behind anyway. And that was playing in a poor Freidburg team (the team was built around him, but stil impressive). 11 in 17 for Senegal aswell. No idea why people are suprised.

Didi_ram · « **Reply #67 on:** April 7, 2012, 12:31:12 AM »

That second finish was Henry like.
Brilliant player,knows where the net is.
Simply put,if you search hard,there are gems from lower teams in Europe for knockdown prices.And Pardew has found every one of them.Ba,Cisse,Cabaye,Ben Arfa,Santon(loan)..
The ideal club philosophy.

Cisse is going to be one of the 3 top scorers next season,before some big club pays big money for him.

Juan Loco · « **Reply #68 on:** April 7, 2012, 12:39:15 AM »

Quote from: Y2J on April 7, 2012, 12:17:30 AM

Adam had a half of a good season with Blackpool and then when the eyes were on him in the second half of the season failed miserably.

That's fine revisionism.

Adam had a good second half to the season. He had a ropey end to January/start to February in 2010. People tried to make out he fell away because that's the script that all these lads are meant to stick to. Great for six months then 'find their level'. It applies to players and clubs.

Didn't happen with Adam though. He was missing for a few weeks (suspension) came back and scored a brace against Blackburn, and if you look at their last month of the season he was like a man possessed trying to keep them up. Man of the Match in the Bolton game, very good against Spurs at home, best player on the pitch away to Spurs (despite the missed penalty and the furore over his tackle which took away from the fact that he was very good that day), scored and was their best and most dangerous player against United in the last game of the season.

Adam didn't just have 6 good months. Adam had a good season in general, with a couple of poor months in there in January after he was denied the move he wanted.

postmaster · « **Reply #69 on:** April 7, 2012, 12:45:50 AM »

"Not actually that good"? We could do with a striker thats "not actually that good" right now. In 8 games in his debut season in a foreign country, he's out scored all of our strikers comfortably. 37 from 65 in the Bundesliga and 11 from 17 at national level isn't half bad either. Fantastic capture for the Toon. They must be chuffed with their net spend figures.

Malaysian Kopite · « **Reply #70 on:** April 7, 2012, 05:19:03 AM »

He;s got to be careful though. Some club might pay 50mil or 35mil for him and he'll never score again.

liverpoolfan1 · « **Reply #71 on:** April 7, 2012, 07:04:54 AM »

Quote from: wardides on April 7, 2012, 12:23:11 AM

Why are people talking as if he has been picked from the depths of a foreign nation, in a poor league? 65 league games for Freidburg and 37 goals, clear second to Gomez last season in top scorer in Germany and no doubt would have been up there again this season. In the Bundesliga, a league which in my opinion is pretty much similar to the Premier league in terms of quality, not far behind anyway. And that was playing in a poor Freidburg team (the team was built around him, but stil impressive). 11 in 17 for Senegal aswell. No idea why people are suprised.

Exactly. But no we would rather have players with PL experience.

Don't worry though. I'm sure Comolli will pick him up next season for 25-30m.

greyfade · « **Reply #72 on:** April 7, 2012, 11:32:50 AM »

Quote from: mb1111 on April 7, 2012, 12:29:44 AM

Miles better than Eto'o ever was. Is he the best player ever?

Sr Harvest Fiields · « **Reply #73 on:** April 7, 2012, 11:41:23 AM »

Quote from: mb1111 on April 7, 2012, 12:29:44 AM

Miles better than Eto'o ever was. Is he the best player ever?

Fuck me lad, step away from the crack pipe before you hurt yourself.

Dudek · « **Reply #74 on:** April 7, 2012, 11:47:56 AM »

Better than Cavani.

*runs*

Smudgester · « **Reply #75 on:** April 7, 2012, 12:24:51 PM »

Quote from: Mr F on April 6, 2012, 06:42:00 PM

Be interesting to see if he can keep it going if/when defences learn how to play him. Ba's statistics look good but he hasn't scored in the last 8, the exact same can happen to him. Would like to see this thread in a year's time.

Exactly.

Black and White Paul · « **Reply #76 on:** April 7, 2012, 01:59:25 PM »

Better than any footballer in the history of the game by a hundred million mile, and then some.

scatman · « **Reply #77 on:** April 7, 2012, 02:22:26 PM »

Quote from: Smudgester on April 7, 2012, 12:24:51 PM

Exactly.

no, and how long was Ba scoring for before his little 8 game drought?

Anywhichwayucan · « **Reply #78 on:** April 7, 2012, 02:45:55 PM »

Quote from: Black and White Paul on April 7, 2012, 01:59:25 PM

Better than any footballer in the history of the game by a hundred million mile, and then some.

Messi
Ronaldo
Zidane
Djalminha
Papiss Cisse.

liverpoolfan1 · « **Reply #79 on:** April 7, 2012, 02:47:57 PM »

Quote from: scatman on April 7, 2012, 02:22:26 PM

no, and how long was Ba scoring for before his little 8 game drought?

And besides Ba has been moved out wide recently.