Author Topic: Aldo: Liverpool FC are in crisis and action is needed to stop the rot (Read 26358 times)

Davvo7 · « **Reply #600 on:** April 4, 2012, 06:53:30 PM »

Quote from: Raymondo on April 4, 2012, 06:11:40 PM

Aldo: "Liverpool have deserved to win that game, even though we were outplayed, they had a man wrongfully sent off and 3 wrongly disallowed goals"

99% of Liverpool fans: "Top lad is Aldo, boss pundit"

Aldo: "Liverpool being so far behind the top of the league is a disgrace. We shouldn't be in this position"

99% of Liverpool fans : "What a prick Aldo is. Always slagging the club. What a bitter man. Did he support Everton when he was a lad?"

You trying to wind people up

It's Jimmy Corkhill · « **Reply #601 on:** April 4, 2012, 06:55:29 PM »

You know if he had a seasie he'd be the one near you who moans when we're not winning after five minutes.

Davvo7 · « **Reply #602 on:** April 4, 2012, 07:09:55 PM »

Quote from: It's Jimmy Corkhill on April 4, 2012, 06:55:29 PM

You know if he had a seasie he'd be the one near you who moans when we're not winning after five minutes.

Spot on.

john_mac · « **Reply #603 on:** April 4, 2012, 07:11:34 PM »

Quote from: Zimlfc on April 4, 2012, 06:52:36 PM

Top reply that, Fans tend to forget that it shouldn't matter if you from Liverpool or New York.

Yeah great reply, except for the fact that thing it replied to had nothing to do with geographical location but about how you support the team.

And by the way, if you think the fella from New York who never goes near Anfield supports the team in the same way as the kid from Breck Road who goes to every game, well you are fucken mental. It does not matter where you are from but the pricks on the internet who have never been near L4 do not support the team in the same way as the lads who travel week after week, regardless of geographical location.

Zimlfc · « **Reply #604 on:** April 4, 2012, 07:19:57 PM »

Quote from: john_mac on April 4, 2012, 07:11:34 PM

Yeah great reply, except for the fact that thing it replied to had nothing to do with geographical location but about how you support the team.

And by the way, if you think the fella from New York who never goes near Anfield supports the team in the same way as the kid from Breck Road who goes to every game, well you are fucken mental. It does not matter where you are from but the pricks on the internet who have never been near L4 do not support the team in the same way as the lads who travel week after week, regardless of geographical location.

Apologies i misread the post there and having been to anfield many times i understand what you mean , all the same we still follow the same football club as best we can

Pistolero · « **Reply #605 on:** April 4, 2012, 07:20:48 PM »

Quote from: It's Jimmy Corkhill on April 4, 2012, 06:55:29 PM

You know if he had a seasie he'd be the one near you who moans when we're not winning after five minutes.

there's a fine tradition of moaning scouse fuckers at the ground....got about 6 around me - and thats just the lads I go with!...doesn't bother me as long as they love the club, which Aldo obviously does...so Im certainly not going to get on his case over this little tantrum...boss red, boss player....passionate and wants whats best for LFC which is more than can be said of some ex players turned pundits

Zeb · « **Reply #606 on:** April 4, 2012, 07:26:39 PM »

Quote from: Pistolero on April 4, 2012, 07:20:48 PM

there's a fine tradition of moaning scouse fuckers at the ground....got about 6 around me - and thats just the lads I go with!...doesn't bother me as long as they love the club, which Aldo obviously does...so Im certainly not going to get on his case over this little tantrum...boss red, boss player....passionate and wants whats best for LFC which is more than can be said of some ex players turned pundits

Agree with that. When some were looking at their freebies, Aldo was out on the pickets and saying what was what every time a mic was put near him. Would be daft to think everyone could agree with him all the time, but got a hell of a lot of time for him.

Shanks1965 · « **Reply #607 on:** April 4, 2012, 07:54:09 PM »

Quote from: john_mac on April 4, 2012, 12:16:17 PM

Which is why Joe Fagan should have been sacked at the end of the 84 season, what was it? No wins in 7, with a team that included Hansen, Whelan, Lawrenson, Souness, Dalglish & Rush, now that is fucken disgraceful management.

tut tut

You forgot to mention that we'd already won the league with 7 games to go mate.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #608 on:** April 4, 2012, 08:05:51 PM »

Quote from: Zelnaga on April 4, 2012, 06:43:04 PM

Aldo is stating some cold hard truths here, and some people cant take it and just abusing a ex-legend.

I bet when Kenny is long retired and makes a critical comment of Liverpool, there will be people slagging him off, and more likely the same people giving Aldo the same treatment now.

I bet you Kenny won't make a critical comment of Liverpool.

You don't appear to know much about the man to think he would. Look at everything he's ever said about LFC and it's always been positive and supportive and always shows his love for the club.

Shanks1965 · « **Reply #609 on:** April 4, 2012, 08:07:38 PM »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on April 4, 2012, 08:05:51 PM

I bet you Kenny won't make a critical comment of Liverpool.

You don't appear to know much about the man to think he would. Look at everything he's ever said about LFC and it's always been positive and supportive and always shows his love for the club.

Correct.

john_mac · « **Reply #610 on:** April 4, 2012, 08:08:20 PM »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on April 4, 2012, 08:05:51 PM

I bet you Kenny won't make a critical comment of Liverpool.

You don't appear to know much about the man to think he would. Look at everything he's ever said about LFC and it's always been positive and supportive and always shows his love for the club.

Andy don't even bother, one of the most clueless comments you are ever likely to see

davey.1978 · « **Reply #611 on:** April 4, 2012, 08:36:42 PM »

Quote from: john_mac on April 4, 2012, 07:11:34 PM

Yeah great reply, except for the fact that thing it replied to had nothing to do with geographical location but about how you support the team.

And by the way, if you think the fella from New York who never goes near Anfield supports the team in the same way as the kid from Breck Road who goes to every game, well you are fucken mental. It does not matter where you are from but the pricks on the internet who have never been near L4 do not support the team in the same way as the lads who travel week after week, regardless of geographical location.

Spot on.

Redrider · « **Reply #612 on:** April 4, 2012, 08:44:32 PM »

If you think that the criticism is unfair or uncalled for just now. Then just wait until the FA Cup Semi Final, in the off chance that we lose to Everton, there will be a tidal wave of adverse comment that frankly will be hard for Kenny to withstand. In the event that we win and go though to the finaL and lose, there will be similar quantity of disparaging comment on Liverpools Season the only difference being, there will be less vitriol, again it will be tough for KD.
The only escape route here is an FA Cup victory, which will buy some time to see if Henderson and Carroll can mature and together with the addition of some creative ability in midfield present a challenge in the early part of next season. Otherwise it is armageddon for the current management. The American Owners, being 'American' have no sentiment in business and will already be planning for the possibility of change.
Current form says that we have only a slim chance of success. A huge factor called spirit needs to be developed by the players, something only rarely observed in an LFC team this season. If ever the lad's had to stand up and be counted as a unit it is now. Everton must be out-gunned in every department on every sqaure inch of Wembley and then the dose repeated in May against Spurs or Chelsea.
Is this a tall order or just the kind of challenge we need? The fan's can cope, but do the players have it in them?

Fat Scouser · « **Reply #613 on:** April 4, 2012, 08:50:18 PM »

Quote from: Redrider on April 4, 2012, 08:44:32 PM

If you think that the criticism is unfair or uncalled for just now. Then just wait until the FA Cup Semi Final, in the off chance that we lose to Everton them?

I've been swerving mentioning that all day. Was wondering when someone would come out with it. Doesn't bare thinking about.

john_mac · « **Reply #614 on:** April 4, 2012, 09:06:31 PM »

Quote from: Fat Scouser on April 4, 2012, 08:50:18 PM

I've been swerving mentioning that all day. Was wondering when someone would come out with it. Doesn't bare thinking about.

Well they think they've already won.

It'll be OK

Liquorice · « **Reply #615 on:** April 4, 2012, 09:19:12 PM »

Quote from: Redrider on April 4, 2012, 08:44:32 PM

Is this a tall order or just the kind of challenge we need? The fan's can cope, but do the players have it in them?

This is the biggest problem on the pitch,the lack of leadership.

Most of our current leaders are on the way down and perhaps this is the real legacy of H+G asset stripping between 2007-2010,the lack of a young cadre of upcoming leaders[apart from Lucas] in the squad.

I wonder if FSG understand the need we have for proven leaders aged between 23-25 and not young tyro's aged 19-21.

We are mentally weak and i fear it's not going to be cheap to fix it .

geoffstrong · « **Reply #616 on:** April 4, 2012, 09:43:07 PM »

Quote from: Davvo7 on April 4, 2012, 06:53:30 PM

You trying to wind people up

please dont quote him got him on ignore, good move!

geoffstrong · « **Reply #617 on:** April 4, 2012, 09:45:01 PM »

as a few people are saying it is not what aldo said that was stating the obvious with a bit of his agenda it is the timing, it is a bit rich when a journo at the mirror has it right and Aldo has it so wrong.

other than that his pen at Wembley was shit!

telekon · « **Reply #618 on:** April 4, 2012, 09:48:47 PM »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on April 3, 2012, 02:54:42 PM

If you are embarrased to be a Liverpool fan then don't worry. You aren't a Liverpool fan.

bleedsred1978 · « **Reply #619 on:** April 4, 2012, 10:04:35 PM »

Quote from: john_mac on April 4, 2012, 07:11:34 PM

Yeah great reply, except for the fact that thing it replied to had nothing to do with geographical location but about how you support the team.

And by the way, if you think the fella from New York who never goes near Anfield supports the team in the same way as the kid from Breck Road who goes to every game, well you are fucken mental. It does not matter where you are from but the pricks on the internet who have never been near L4 do not support the team in the same way as the lads who travel week after week, regardless of geographical location.

Yep guess your right. Much more of a sacrifice to actually travel from a different country to get to a match eh.

Easy when your on the doorstep.

Seriously though I get what your saying, of course the life blood is from Liverpool. Opinions are valid no matter where your from was my point.

You don get two votes cos your from L4.

Trada · « **Reply #620 on:** April 4, 2012, 10:36:03 PM »

Quote from: alfonso on April 4, 2012, 05:17:45 PM

I've wasted too much time on this already.

Quote from: Trada on Today at 10:27:11 AM

That because people like me, the club ended up with the muppet RH.

They wanted Benitez out way before they sacked him. His poor finale gave them the excuse they needed. They couldn't have got away with it when he got 2nd.
They didn't appoint RH because of the fans. They appointed him as their yes man and RB was no longer a threat to them.

Yes, so what?
Re: Lucas
« on: August 31, 2010, 08:39:03 AM »
I can't see him being here next season.

I have always viewed him as a squad player and I haven't seen anything to think otherwise this season.

If we had another two weeks for transfers, I would think he would be on his way for the right price.

Where does it say I wanted him sold? And even if I did, say that, so what?
At that time he was a squad player. I saw him as one.
I thought he may have gone (asked for a transfer due to fans getting on his back) had there been a longer window.
Yes I did. His attitude stank at the end. I was sick of his shite with him wanting to leave and his excuses. The club comes before any players.

Just like Benitez wanted Barry in and Alonso out eh..
Actually, I would have welcomed both at the club with Barry down the left. But I wouldn't have lost sleep at the time had Alonso gone. He wasn't playing his best football in his 2nd and 3rd seasons, but the Barry saga made him up his game and he had a great final season.

Yeah ok.

stjohns · « **Reply #621 on:** April 4, 2012, 10:40:50 PM »

Quote from: john_mac on April 4, 2012, 07:11:34 PM

Yeah great reply, except for the fact that thing it replied to had nothing to do with geographical location but about how you support the team.

And by the way, if you think the fella from New York who never goes near Anfield supports the team in the same way as the kid from Breck Road who goes to every game, well you are fucken mental. It does not matter where you are from but the pricks on the internet who have never been near L4 do not support the team in the same way as the lads who travel week after week, regardless of geographical location.

As one of the afore mentioned, not abroad, just a migrated Lancastrian I agree with you.
But we're just as fucking depressed about the shit we're all going through right now. Believe you me.

El Campeador · « **Reply #622 on:** April 5, 2012, 01:14:25 AM »

Quote from: alfonso on April 4, 2012, 05:17:45 PM

I've wasted too much time on this already.

Grab a shovel and start digging.

Quote from: alfonso on May 4, 2008, 05:50:58 PM

There is no way Ronaldo is in my team. Good player but as Dunphy says, he's a disgrace to the game.

I want men in the team.

So I'll stick Babel there.

Quote from: alfonso on May 4, 2008, 05:50:58 PM

Maybe Alonso has better attributes than Barry (in some cases), but the long and short of it is, we've won fuck all for two years, so there needs to be change.

Last season wasn't good enough.

Alonso is expendable.

Let's see what a new player can do within the team.

The internet never forgets a muppet.

And Could He Play · « **Reply #623 on:** April 5, 2012, 01:33:14 AM »

Quote from: El Campeador on April 5, 2012, 01:14:25 AM

Grab a shovel and start digging.

The internet never forgets a muppet.

RedinExile · « **Reply #624 on:** April 5, 2012, 01:34:35 AM »

Quote from: El Campeador on April 5, 2012, 01:14:25 AM

Grab a shovel and start digging.

The internet never forgets a muppet.

Yeh but he really really wants us to win stuff, as opposed to me; we are Liverpool after all. I think you need to up your own aspirations mate - it's about we time we had a policy of you're the manager, if you don't win the title then bosh, out the door.

Dunphy in as the number two an all, he's seen it all, the ledge - could be where we've been going wrong.

El Campeador · « **Reply #625 on:** April 5, 2012, 01:57:11 AM »

Quote from: RedinExile on April 5, 2012, 01:34:35 AM

Dunphy in as the number two an all, he's seen it all, the ledge - could be where we've been going wrong.

Let me. Entertain you.

Quote from: alfonso on March 24, 2009, 04:48:59 PM

Regarding the RTE analysis.
Both Giles and Dunphy are forever going on about the fantastic Liverpool teams of the past.

Every time we are on they will mention them.

I like the analysis because they don't sit on the fence like as Dunphy said 'those people at the BBC'

I find Giles' comments about football the most insightful.

They don't 'dis' Liverpool either. They are giving an opinion.

And Dunphy always comes out with a funny one liner, i.e. 'Robben - bird brain', 'Ronaldo is a disgrace to the game'

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/KHTM-abNEyk?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/KHTM-abNEyk?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0</a>

The internet never forgets a muppet.

RedinExile · « **Reply #626 on:** April 5, 2012, 02:31:22 AM »

Jeez. Used to live in the Emerald Isle, and Dunphy is a stupid cnt. I recommend everyone watch that clip to see what shite Irish Reds have to put up with.

Gerrard found out tonight, nothing player.
If you can't get a performance on a night like that.
Nervousness.
Lack of moral courage.
Kicking themselves to go out to a team like Liverpool.
To see that team fail to live up to their reputation.

Btw this is the match Liverpool knocked Barcelona out to go to the QF of the CL, just in case you were wondering.

Sure, Rafa got a fair crack of the whip alright of these media cnts - they wanted us to get an absolute whalloping and we said fuck you and won.

legendkiller · « **Reply #627 on:** April 5, 2012, 03:11:19 AM »

Three very bitter people there. Fairly sure they are three failed managers as well . The way they talked about Benitez is terrible . Gerrard a nothing player says it all really .

El Campeador · « **Reply #628 on:** April 5, 2012, 03:18:10 AM »

Quote from: RedinExile on April 5, 2012, 02:31:22 AM

Jeez. Used to live in the Emerald Isle, and Dunphy is a stupid cnt. I recommend everyone watch that clip to see what shite Irish Reds have to put up with.

Gerrard found out tonight, nothing player.
If you can't get a performance on a night like that.
Nervousness.
Lack of moral courage.
Kicking themselves to go out to a team like Liverpool.
To see that team fail to live up to their reputation.

Btw this is the match Liverpool knocked Barcelona out to go to the QF of the CL, just in case you were wondering.

Sure, Rafa got a fair crack of the whip alright of these media cnts - they wanted us to get an absolute whalloping and we said fuck you and won.

Quote from: alfonso on March 25, 2009, 04:27:55 PM

I listen to Dunphy a lot and I've never heard him say 'bitter' or 'hateful' comments towards the club. Whenever he covers one of our games, he is forever going on about how great the club is and how fantastic we were in our heyday.

The internet never forgets a whopper.

RedinExile · « **Reply #629 on:** April 5, 2012, 03:47:17 AM »

Quote from: El Campeador on April 5, 2012, 03:18:10 AM

The internet never forgets a whopper.

Hehe the poor lads got a long day ahead tomorrow hehe

El Campeador · « **Reply #630 on:** April 5, 2012, 04:17:40 AM »

Quote from: RedinExile on April 5, 2012, 03:47:17 AM

Hehe the poor lads got a long day ahead tomorrow hehe

Alfonso Dunphy has no posts bigging up the spring of 2009. None. While the rest of us we sticking out our chests and roaring down the stretch, Alfonso Dunphy did not shupport when it counted.

RedinExile · « **Reply #631 on:** April 5, 2012, 04:32:26 AM »

Quote from: El Campeador on April 5, 2012, 04:17:40 AM

Alfonso Dunphy has no posts bigging up the spring of 2009. None. While the rest of us we sticking out our chests and roaring down the stretch, Alfonso Dunphy did not shupport when it counted.

Well we did finish second so y'know, we were shite. Had we won, we'd have been fucking mint and dead good and stuff.

nocturnalvin · « **Reply #632 on:** April 5, 2012, 06:19:12 AM »

Quote from: john_mac on April 4, 2012, 07:11:34 PM

Yeah great reply, except for the fact that thing it replied to had nothing to do with geographical location but about how you support the team.

And by the way, if you think the fella from New York who never goes near Anfield supports the team in the same way as the kid from Breck Road who goes to every game, well you are fucken mental. It does not matter where you are from but the pricks on the internet who have never been near L4 do not support the team in the same way as the lads who travel week after week, regardless of geographical location.

You are right. And he is right too.

DangerScouse · « **Reply #633 on:** April 5, 2012, 08:03:20 AM »

Aldo probably could have chosen his words a bit better but he's clearly hurting like the rest of us given our shocking performances of late. Not going to criticise him for that to be honest.

Dr Margrove · « **Reply #634 on:** April 5, 2012, 08:55:40 AM »

I think its embarrassing that someone could be embarrassed by Lfc. I'm not trying to be a superfan, but why this godgiven right to be the best? Yes we've had a lot of success in the past, and its disappointing to be playing poorly, but going on about embarrassment smacks of a sense of entitlement I dont feel. Are mid table club's fans embarrassed? Would you be embarrassed your kid came last in sports day? Would you feel shame? I hope not. I'd prefer to live in hope of improvement than going around whining that the players are bringing shame on the club, etc etc. Fuck that. I didn't find Carrolls dive embarrassing, just frustrating. I just thought poor lad, his confidence Is knackered, and he's going to get even more stick now.

west_london_red · « **Reply #635 on:** April 5, 2012, 09:14:38 AM »

Quote from: Dr Margrove on April 5, 2012, 08:55:40 AM

I think its embarrassing that someone could be embarrassed by Lfc. I'm not trying to be a superfan, but why this godgiven right to be the best? Yes we've had a lot of success in the past, and its disappointing to be playing poorly, but going on about embarrassment smacks of a sense of entitlement I dont feel. Are mid table club's fans embarrassed? Would you be embarrassed your kid came last in sports day? Would you feel shame? I hope not. I'd prefer to live in hope of improvement than going around whining that the players are bringing shame on the club, etc etc. Fuck that. I didn't find Carrolls dive embarrassing, just frustrating. I just thought poor lad, his confidence Is knackered, and he's going to get even more stick now.

I think your looking at things a little to black and white here, I very much doubt Aldo is having a moan because we are not the best, because we are not the best and we are very far from it. Its more of a case that we have under achieved in the league this season, the expectation of top 4 was probably premature for this season but we shouldbt be 8th either.

Embarassed is probably too strong a word, disapointed is probably a better way to describe our league position.

John C · « **Reply #636 on:** April 5, 2012, 09:15:52 AM »

Quote from: Zelnaga on April 4, 2012, 06:43:04 PM

I bet when Kenny is long retired and makes a critical comment of Liverpool, there will be people slagging him off, and more likely the same people giving Aldo the same treatment now.

Kenny can neither retire or abdicate from his status of King and Legend, he will carry both in a dignified manner until his grave. Kenny's hasn't been a part of this club twice in his life like some people think. The club has been the major part of his life since he sat down to sign his contract with the architects of the great Anfield years in 1977.

pasmob · « **Reply #637 on:** April 5, 2012, 10:57:07 AM »

Quote from: El Campeador on April 5, 2012, 01:57:11 AM

Let me. Entertain you.

The internet never forgets a muppet.

That was a Tuesday night match if I recall rightly. Anyhow RTE had to apologize on the next CL programme because so many people contacted them telling them to sack those three w*nkers who hadn't watched the first half of the match (the score could easily have been 6-0 at half time).

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #638 on:** April 5, 2012, 11:00:46 AM »

Quote from: Zelnaga on April 4, 2012, 06:43:04 PM

Aldo is stating some cold hard truths here, and some people cant take it and just abusing a ex-legend.

I bet when Kenny is long retired and makes a critical comment of Liverpool, there will be people slagging him off, and more likely the same people giving Aldo the same treatment now.

Kenny had 18 years in which to do that, and didn't. Stupid thing to say.

Fat Scouser · « **Reply #639 on:** April 5, 2012, 12:49:17 PM »

I remember the RTE panel constantly leathering Rafa. Whelan being the worst of them. But here's the thing... I watched match of the day last week. I can't even remember what game was on. It was a nothing game, between 2 mid table teams. I really should have remembered the game, but my point is... as the ball got knocked round midfield, the commentator constantly ohhed and ahhed down the microphone as if at the point of orgasm, then started screaming like an hysterical Tom Cat on heat when a simple tap was put into the net.
No doubt, the RTE panel used to love sticking it to Rafa. But why... it's just the world we live in now. It's manufactured sensationalism. These pundit fellas aren't particularily bright. It's like a runaway train. Once something starts to roll, they all jump on the band wagon. Reasoned thought and realism is very rare and has fuck all to do with football reporting today.
Go onto youtube, play some old clips of the greatest games you can think of up until the mid-late 90's. Go and put on last weeks nothing fixture... compare the difference.
It's bollocks. Aldo really should know better.