Author Topic: Is it ok to support Liverpool if you were born in Everton? (Read 5931 times)

vishy01234 · « **on:** March 25, 2012, 02:59:12 AM »

I have decided to out myself to you all - I was born in Mill Road Hospital in Everton (now closed). They were at pains to put on my birth certificate that my place of birth was "Everton", which I believe is an act of extreme cruelty in itself.

Heartbroken doesn't begin to describe how I feel

Any fellow reds on here who were born in that dreaded district of Liverpool? If so, should we technically be supporting that bitter lot?

Suspect Package. · « **Reply #1 on:** March 25, 2012, 03:00:59 AM »

Most people on RAWK couldn't find Everton without google maps anyway, I wouldn't worry about it.

Red Genius · « **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2012, 03:02:21 AM »

Pfft... filth... completer and utter. filt.....

Did you ever have OCD needing to wash repetitively every day?

Matt8Pie · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2012, 03:17:39 AM »

Why not, it's not like we don't have supporters in our fanbase from areas where other teams play their football.

If you used to support Everton and now support Liverpool, well that's a different matter.

paddypower · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2012, 03:19:32 AM »

Quote from: Matt8Pie on March 25, 2012, 03:17:39 AM

If you used to support Everton and now support Liverpool, well that's a different matter.

Worked out alright for Carragher

zip · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2012, 03:42:59 AM »

The city's name is Liverpool.

skooma · « **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2012, 06:55:55 AM »

Our Vice-Captain is from Everton. Like zip said, the city's name is Liverpool.

kavah · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2012, 07:30:40 AM »

Quote from: vishy01234 on March 25, 2012, 02:59:12 AM

I have decided to out myself to you all - I was born in Mill Road Hospital in Everton

Any fellow reds on here who were born in that dreaded district of Liverpool? If so, should we technically be supporting that bitter lot?

most north enders - south of fazak, went to mill rd , i think ? - like most south enders went to oxford st when sefton general closed

the auld arses will be on I'm sure telling us abar the northern & the southern & florence nighingale

Manila Vanilla · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2012, 07:45:53 AM »

My great-grandparents married in 1892, the same year the club was formed.
They lived in Everton and everyone in the family supported Liverpool.
My grandfather and his brothers were season ticket holders in the days of the Second Division.

But you'd probably be surprised how far from Everton FC the area of Everton extended.
They lived next to St Augustine's Church, which was destroyed by the Luftwaffe in 1941.
This was not that far from the city centre and certainly a long way from Goodison.
In fact, the nearest stadium was Anfield.

Don't worry!

CraigDS · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2012, 07:59:14 AM »

to be honest you'll find a lot of people born in Liverpool (both Liverpool and Everton fans) were born in Mill Rd - me being one of them.

It's Jimmy Corkhill · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2012, 08:29:01 AM »

What type of question is this?

I was born in the now-demolished Mill Road. Everton is in Liverpool.

Confused.com

MrGrumpy · « **Reply #11 on:** March 25, 2012, 08:34:49 AM »

Quote from: vishy01234 on March 25, 2012, 02:59:12 AM

I have decided to out myself to you all - I was born in Mill Road Hospital in Everton (now closed). They were at pains to put on my birth certificate that my place of birth was "Everton", which I believe is an act of extreme cruelty in itself.

Heartbroken doesn't begin to describe how I feel

Any fellow reds on here who were born in that dreaded district of Liverpool? If so, should we technically be supporting that bitter lot?

If you can support Liverpool when like me your birth certificate says Salford, having the word Everton on your birth certificate shouldn't be a problem.

ALANM · « **Reply #12 on:** March 25, 2012, 11:05:42 AM »

Every Evertonian was born on County Road which is Walton. Wouldn't worry about it mate.

Robotforaday · « **Reply #13 on:** March 25, 2012, 11:55:27 AM »

Given that Goodison park is a lot more in Anfield than it is in Everton, I'd say you're ok.

Cusamano · « **Reply #14 on:** March 25, 2012, 11:56:19 AM »

Becky_YNWA · « **Reply #15 on:** March 25, 2012, 12:32:48 PM »

My dad has 'Everton' on his birth certificate too, doesn't mention that part to people for some strange reason :p

vishy01234 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 25, 2012, 12:53:34 PM »

Quote from: It's Jimmy Corkhill on March 25, 2012, 08:29:01 AM

What type of question is this?

I was born in the now-demolished Mill Road. Everton is in Liverpool.

Confused.com

I'm just joking a bit mate - bit of fun! I found it funny that after so long I had never actually taken a really close look at my birth certificate and realised my birth certificate had Everton on it. My parents are from India so I am first generation Scouser and proud of it ... I am sure if I had a long line of Scousers in the family some would have been at pains to point out that I should have been a blue. One can only be relieved that such a fate was avoided.

I find it quite humorous actually - makes me feel like a dirty infiltrator and from this point forward I will always feel a bond with my fellow dirty infiltrator reds who were born in the said district thou shalt not mention

Anywhichwayucan · « **Reply #17 on:** March 25, 2012, 12:54:53 PM »

I think it would be best if you took your support elsewhere.

sms1986 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 25, 2012, 01:16:05 PM »

The last time my family lived in Liverpool was back in the 1850s when my maternal great great great grandfather James McKenna was growing up in Toxteth (he was born somewhere around there, and his dad died at "13 Court? Blake Street, Mount Pleasant" in 1857) and by the early 1870s he was married and living in Leyland. So I would say it was OK.

(I do support Preston North End as well, who unfortunately aren't doing too well themselves).

(Talking about family history and Liverpool, Lancashire Records Office here in Preston has a really old directory of Liverpool from 1790. It's a small and very fragile book, and it's amazing to hold and read this ancient (for an actual book) item).

Big Red Richie · « **Reply #19 on:** March 25, 2012, 03:13:37 PM »

I was born in Mill Road, and I still live in L6 about 100yards off, believe it or not, Everton Rd.

My full address still has Everton in the title, and I view it with both a small teeny weeny bit of pride, and a very large healthy dose of smirking, humour, and guffaw.

Pride, becuase, like it or not, Everton is quite a historic district of the city,that goes back several hundred years, and the football team itself (St Domingo) were actually started in the back room of a pub(long demolished -- unlike The Sandon.

) that used to stand on Village street, about 600 yards from where I live.
If you are a true football fan- regardless of colour-, you will understand the history of that.

Smirking, humour, and guffaw. I sometimes leave out the district or Everton in my full address, just to simplify or shorten my address for others. In the same way that many of you do, depending on where you live, ie: street-city-county-postcode. etc. and leave out the district.
On the other hand, I sometime deliberately put the district in, just to remind myself and everyone else that Everton is a DISTRICT of Liverpool, as, certainly from outside of the city, not many people actually know it's a district, and not just a football team.
It reminds me that they are smaller than us, in every way, and gives me a chuckle that outside of the city, no one would ever know it, unless I reminded them, once in a while.

Down the years, It's been commented on that I have both Everton and Liverpool in my address, and I always remeind individuals that it's a small district of the city only a few miles across, and for the most part not known outside of the city boundaries.

Liverpool, on the other hand is known world wide.

My match going and supporting credentials are not in question, that said, I won't be dropping the Everton from my Address, any time soon, I like it. It reminds me of their place in the world, and that if it wasn't for Liverpool - both the city and the team - they'd just be another backwater, with a bit of history behind them, and nothing much now, in the modern world.

In a funny way, I find it quite unique. I mean. Who else has TWO football teams in their address.

B.Red · « **Reply #20 on:** March 25, 2012, 03:15:34 PM »

I was born in the same hospital. It's ok if you were born a year we won the title like me though. Ha.

montysmum · « **Reply #21 on:** March 25, 2012, 03:20:46 PM »

Quote from: vishy01234 on March 25, 2012, 02:59:12 AM

I have decided to out myself to you all - I was born in Mill Road Hospital in Everton (now closed). They were at pains to put on my birth certificate that my place of birth was "Everton", which I believe is an act of extreme cruelty in itself.

Heartbroken doesn't begin to describe how I feel

Any fellow reds on here who were born in that dreaded district of Liverpool? If so, should we technically be supporting that bitter lot?

You have my heartfelt sympathy to have been burdened with such a problem from a young age.

Personally, I would say you can support Liverpool, because this problem was not really your fault was it? It was your Mother's, she has to take responsibility and therefore you are absolved of all blame.

Pistolero · « **Reply #22 on:** March 25, 2012, 03:21:00 PM »

Everton has always had a healthy split of Blue and Red...particularly down the Scottie/Netherfield rd end...with no mans land - Greaty - separating the great unwashed hordes!...

Big Red Richie · « **Reply #23 on:** March 25, 2012, 03:25:33 PM »

Actually, It must be quite funny for the natives across the park.

It must f*cking kill some of them to have to write Liverpool, every time they give their address.

I can just imagine the bile it must bring forth.

vishy01234 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 25, 2012, 06:24:04 PM »

Quote from: Big Red Richie on March 25, 2012, 03:13:37 PM

I was born in Mill Road, and I still live in L6 about 100yards off, believe it or not, Everton Rd.

My full address still has Everton in the title, and I view it with both a small teeny weeny bit of pride, and a very large healthy dose of smirking, humour, and guffaw.

Pride, becuase, like it or not, Everton is quite a historic district of the city,that goes back several hundred years, and the football team itself (St Domingo) were actually started in the back room of a pub(long demolished -- unlike The Sandon. ) that used to stand on Village street, about 600 yards from where I live.
If you are a true football fan- regardless of colour-, you will understand the history of that.

Smirking, humour, and guffaw. I sometimes leave out the district or Everton in my full address, just to simplify or shorten my address for others. In the same way that many of you do, depending on where you live, ie: street-city-county-postcode. etc. and leave out the district.
On the other hand, I sometime deliberately put the district in, just to remind myself and everyone else that Everton is a DISTRICT of Liverpool, as, certainly from outside of the city, not many people actually know it's a district, and not just a football team.
It reminds me that they are smaller than us, in every way, and gives me a chuckle that outside of the city, no one would ever know it, unless I reminded them, once in a while.

Down the years, It's been commented on that I have both Everton and Liverpool in my address, and I always remeind individuals that it's a small district of the city only a few miles across, and for the most part not known outside of the city boundaries.

Liverpool, on the other hand is known world wide.

My match going and supporting credentials are not in question, that said, I won't be dropping the Everton from my Address, any time soon, I like it. It reminds me of their place in the world, and that if it wasn't for Liverpool - both the city and the team - they'd just be another backwater, with a bit of history behind them, and nothing much now, in the modern world.

In a funny way, I find it quite unique. I mean. Who else has TWO football teams in their address.

Loved reading that post - put a smile on my face

stevieG786 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 25, 2012, 06:59:19 PM »

Gerrard was a childhood Everton fan right?!

Danyaals Kop · « **Reply #26 on:** March 25, 2012, 07:03:34 PM »

Quote from: Matt8Pie on March 25, 2012, 03:17:39 AM

Why not, it's not like we don't have supporters in our fanbase from areas where other teams play their football.

If you used to support Everton and now support Liverpool, well that's a different matter.

And God.

Onward Liverpudlian · « **Reply #27 on:** March 25, 2012, 07:05:44 PM »

This reminds me of Sky News coverage of our homecoming in 2005 - Jeremy Thompson said something like "The bus is almost approaching Everton Valley - it will be interesting to see what reaction they'll get there" - as though the Everton Valley area was only inhabited by bluenoses.

zip · « **Reply #28 on:** March 25, 2012, 07:15:47 PM »

Quote from: stevieG786 on March 25, 2012, 06:59:19 PM

Gerrard was a childhood Everton fan right?!

No, he was a Liverpool fan.

red annie · « **Reply #29 on:** March 25, 2012, 07:16:57 PM »

Quote from: stevieG786 on March 25, 2012, 06:59:19 PM

Gerrard was a childhood Everton fan right?!

no

Carragher was

stevieG786 · « **Reply #30 on:** March 25, 2012, 07:57:58 PM »

Quote from: red annie on March 25, 2012, 07:16:57 PM

no

Carragher was

Quote from: zip on March 25, 2012, 07:15:47 PM

No, he was a Liverpool fan.

TheMissionary · « **Reply #31 on:** March 25, 2012, 08:01:56 PM »

Quote from: ALANM on March 25, 2012, 11:05:42 AM

Every Evertonian was born on County Road which is Walton. Wouldn't worry about it mate.

I was born in Walton (me Mam has never confirmed if it was the 'ozzie or the nick) but lived the first 25 years of my days off County Road. Should I be worried?

Black Bull Nova · « **Reply #32 on:** March 25, 2012, 08:54:14 PM »

You mean you chose not to support the people's club, shame on you, person that you are.

I think it is unacceptable to support Ev***on if you were born in Liverpool.

rusty-la · « **Reply #33 on:** March 25, 2012, 09:23:23 PM »

Quote from: Big Red Richie on March 25, 2012, 03:25:33 PM

Actually, It must be quite funny for the natives across the park.

It must f*cking kill some of them to have to write Liverpool, every time they give their address.

I can just imagine the bile it must bring forth.

Although 'Big Blue Ritchie' has a nice ring to it...

Big Red Richie · « **Reply #34 on:** March 25, 2012, 09:41:32 PM »

Quote from: rusty-la on March 25, 2012, 09:23:23 PM

Although 'Big Blue Ritchie' has a nice ring to it...

I'm a real man. I can carry the weight of where I'm from, square on the shoulders.

bornandbRED · « **Reply #35 on:** March 25, 2012, 09:52:48 PM »

Quote from: stevieG786 on March 25, 2012, 07:57:58 PM

Read his autobiography. He's always been a red but his uncle was an Everton fan who won a competition to get a pic done with those trophies. He took Gerrard along. Gerrard's dad wasn't happy apparently.

WOOLTONIAN · « **Reply #36 on:** March 26, 2012, 08:15:58 AM »

Quote from: kavah on March 25, 2012, 07:30:40 AM

most north enders - south of fazak, went to mill rd , i think ? - like most south enders went to oxford st when sefton general closed

the auld arses will be on I'm sure telling us abar the northern & the southern & florence nighingale

My missus was born in Mill Road (1961), her parents lived in Speke, so I dont think North-South divide works.
In the 50's it was more common to be born in the home with a midwife

Liverbird 2010 · « **Reply #37 on:** March 26, 2012, 09:00:23 AM »

I was born in Everton

Dam Sodd · « **Reply #38 on:** March 26, 2012, 11:29:09 PM »

Mill Road me too. I know loads of blues that live in or are from Anfield.

The 92A · « **Reply #39 on:** March 27, 2012, 12:07:07 AM »

Quote from: kavah on March 25, 2012, 07:30:40 AM

most north enders - south of fazak, went to mill rd , i think ? - like most south enders went to oxford st when sefton general closed

the auld arses will be on I'm sure telling us abar the northern & the southern & florence nighingale

Most north enders of my generation were born in Walton Hossy.