Topic: Raheem Sterling

[shanks hankie]

One only needs to look at what whiskey-nose did with his youths and Hansons famous remark about "not winning with kids".

If he i good enough, he is old enough, for me.

Ginsoak also put those kids into a team surrounded by players that had already won leagues. Hansen said that after they were hammered by Villa but they were missing loads of senior players. Once the likes of Cantona and Keane came back it was much easier for the young players (unfortunately) If you blood a young player in a team that's struggling it can be much more risky. So I think Brendan needs to be careful with Raheem. He strikes me as the kind of man who would handle kids well though.

[PIPA23]

young players could also inspire the whole team to better achievement....take Casillas, who was 18 when already starting for Real Madrid, Raul for example was also very very young...

then Ronaldo, Fabregas, Messi etc...

i trust Rodgers to develop Sterling to a top class player he has the potential to be for us..

[Gitsy606]

Ginsoak also put those kids into a team surrounded by players that had already won leagues. Hansen said that after they were hammered by Villa but they were missing loads of senior players. Once the likes of Cantona and Keane came back it was much easier for the young players (unfortunately) If you blood a young player in a team that's struggling it can be much more risky. So I think Brendan needs to be careful with Raheem. He strikes me as the kind of man who would handle kids well though.

Giggs played 51 games as a 17/18 year old in 91-92. Utd finished 6th the year before and hadnt won a league in 25 years.

[shanks hankie]

Giggs played 51 games as a 17/18 year old in 91-92. Utd finished 6th the year before and hadnt won a league in 25 years.

Well, I was talking about the likes of Scholes and Neville coming in that prompted Hansen's comment. I'd forgotten about Giggs so that is a fair point. Though that was still a strong team he was put into as that was the Utd team that lost out to Leeds I think?

[keyo]

Giggs played 51 games as a 17/18 year old in 91-92. Utd finished 6th the year before and hadnt won a league in 25 years.

And the year Hansen was quoted was the year beck ham, butt, neville and more started the season

Giggs was an outstanding player at his age, And came into a very experienced team that won the league in his second season with the added inspiration of cantona.....their progression was clear and Giggs was part of it

Is sterling that equivalent?

[Nessy76]

And the year Hansen was quoted was the year beck ham, butt, neville and more started the season

Giggs was an outstanding player at his age, And came into a very experienced team that won the league in his second season with the added inspiration of cantona.....their progression was clear and Giggs was part of it

Is sterling that equivalent?

History never really repeats itself that accurately, the issue is whether Sterling can progress in the current side. Either he can, in which case we've got a cracking player on our hands, or he can't, in which case he probably wasn't going to whatever the circumstances. Every player comes through at some point, very few emerge into a team on the verge of a league title, it doesn't matter.

[keyo]

History never really repeats itself that accurately, the issue is whether Sterling can progress in the current side. Either he can, in which case we've got a cracking player on our hands, or he can't, in which case he probably wasn't going to whatever the circumstances. Every player comes through at some point, very few emerge into a team on the verge of a league title, it doesn't matter.

agree, and wasn't trying to say sterling was equivalent to giggs just pointing out how examples using united's kids are flawed....i would suggest that the set of circumstances that giggs found himself in were more favourable to those sterling finds himself in, making it "easier" - for want of a better word - for giggs to develop to meet his full potential.......but, yes, sterling will make an impact if he is good enough, and the better the management and the team, then the better his chances will be

[Kovai Red]

IMO, he is still not ready to start games regularly. Using him as an impact subsitute for most of the games and starts in cup games against Championship sides will give him good exposure.

[Red-juvenated]

Hope he gets to play in a settled team, that will bring out the best in him.

[ActiveSloth]

Any idea if he will be keeping the number 31 next season?
From what he has said after BR was appointed its seems as though he feels he is in contention for more minutes with the first team. It can only be good for the lad and from the small amount of minutes we saw him play last season he looks like he could be an asset.

[LondonBarnes]

And the year Hansen was quoted was the year beck ham, butt, neville and more started the season

Giggs was an outstanding player at his age, And came into a very experienced team that won the league in his second season with the added inspiration of cantona.....their progression was clear and Giggs was part of it

Is sterling that equivalent?

Promising as Sterling is, I don't think he is any where near Ryan Giggs at the same age. At 17 years of age I thought Giggs was one of the best players in the league.

[DangerScouse]

Promising as Sterling is, I don't think he is any where near Ryan Giggs at the same age. At 17 years of age I thought Giggs was one of the best players in the league.

Worth remembering that there is a far greater standard of player in the league compared to when Giggs started out which makes it more difficult for the likes of Raheem to breakthrough at such a young age.

[Gitsy606]

Promising as Sterling is, I don't think he is any where near Ryan Giggs at the same age. At 17 years of age I thought Giggs was one of the best players in the league.

Really?

Giggs at 17 had only played a few games, so not too sure how he was one of the best players in the league.

Giggs only played twice the season he made his debut as a 17 year, he went on to play 38 league games the following year.

If Raheem plays half that many next year id be very surprised.

[killer_heels]

I think we have no choice but to play him more regularly or at least as much as Oxlaide-Chamberlain played for Arsenal. We have no real pace or skill on our wings and none of the players we have just been linked to have those sorts of attributes. Its a bit desperate having to rely on a 17 year old but we need someone with his attributes in our team.

[Schmidt]

I think we have no choice but to play him more regularly or at least as much as Oxlaide-Chamberlain played for Arsenal. We have no real pace or skill on our wings and none of the players we have just been linked to have those sorts of attributes. Its a bit desperate having to rely on a 17 year old but we need someone with his attributes in our team.

It's a bit early in the season for such talk surely? Not a huge amount is known about what players we will or won't sign just yet.

It would be nice to see Sterling get a few starts this season in cup games along with a few sub appearances alongside a full strength team, but a lot will depend on how our results go.

[Hazell]

Raheem Sterling is delighted to be back at Melwood working under new Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers and the youngster is determined to prove that he can rise to the challenge if called upon next season.

In his first official interview with Liverpoolfc.com, the 17-year-old spoke of his delight at the warm welcome he has been given by Rodgers since his return to training and revealed how he will look to improve on particular aspects of his game in an attempt to catch the manager's eye.

"It's good being back at Melwood with the new manager," said Sterling. "He makes everyone feel welcome, even the young lads who are coming up. For him to speak to us is really good. He's given us advice, he's a good manager.


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Raheem: The first LFC interview
"The manager likes his wingers to press high up the pitch, so I'm working on that to try and impress him at an early stage and I'm looking forward to it.

"I'm not the tallest or biggest of lads, so it's just really about doing more strength work so I can be ready for whenever I am called upon.

"He is getting us to play football. It's only been about a week and already you can see improvement in the movement of the ball - it's been really good football so far.

"His attacking style of play suits me perfectly but I've still got to work hard in training and try to prove myself and hopefully it will pay off.

"I can't take anything for granted, I've got to work hard, day in and day out in training, and the manager has said if you're good enough, you're old enough, so that's nice for me to know."

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/raheem-the-first-lfc-interview

[Scouserpool]

He's upgraded to the first team squad now, yes?

[alvaro]

Sterling has to play in our 3rd round Europa League game.

[nocturnalvin]

The only way to know if he is good enough at this level is to play him, rather than already concluding he is good enough or not.

The real question is the execution of how to bed him in. Young enough for us to be really cautious and from what is being said in the Reserves thread, a couple of good observers have mentioned how the Club has made it a point to avoid too much attention on the boy. I think we have dealt it pretty well thus far, and this season we will see more of him for sure.

[Gifted Right Foot]

seems rodgers is really showing interest in the young lads.  really proud of them and hope a few can step it up a level this year.  good luck to them. 

[PepsiRebina]

The way Rodgers has worked with Sterling, and the other youngsters so far has really impressed me. He is starting to really grow on me.

[telekon]

"I can't take anything for granted, I've got to work hard, day in and day out in training, and the manager has said if you're good enough, you're old enough, so that's nice for me to know."

Fair play to Buck.

[LondonBarnes]

Really?

Giggs at 17 had only played a few games, so not too sure how he was one of the best players in the league.

Giggs only played twice the season he made his debut as a 17 year, he went on to play 38 league games the following year.

If Raheem plays half that many next year id be very surprised.

You're right, its at 18 when Giggs career really took off! 51 appearances in 91/92. Raheem's equivalent would be next season.

[Halibut-Thumb]

The lad deserves a chance, been ripping arseholes in U18's and ressies.. IF he goes well he'll obviously get more game time, only one way to find out.

[shook]

You're right, its at 18 when Giggs career really took off! 51 appearances in 91/92. Raheem's equivalent would be next season.

Messi was at 19, though he played fifteen matches at 18.

[eLToRo]

You're right, its at 18 when Giggs career really took off! 51 appearances in 91/92. Raheem's equivalent would be next season.

Its unfair to compare and to expect anything.It will only do him harm.

Players have different bodies,Different growing speeds etc.  Giggs may have been more ready at 16 than sterling is now.On the other hand sterling might have been better at 16 than giggs was at 17.

The comparisons are worthless and only put stupid pressure on them.If he players 20 games next year then thats progress and if he impresses within 20 games then Im sure he will play more.

[kelly34]

I reckon he is a first team member now.  Not often reserves have stories on the official is it?

[simesy]

I would give him the last 15-20mins in about 10-15 games (all competitions) that should be enough to help him progress.

[Fauxy]

I reckon he is a first team member now.  Not often reserves have stories on the official is it?

Yeah was thinking the same thing.

He pretty much has been a member of the first team since last season though. I think we will see a lot of him this season 

[jooneyisdagod]

Should be in the first team along with Suso.  And should come on to the pitch as well once in a while and I also sincerely hope that we don't have three defenders on the bench and then bring on two players well into their thirties on later if things don't quite go our way. 

[Kovai Red]

I would give him the last 15-20mins in about 10-15 games (all competitions) that should be enough to help him progress.

And occasional starts in domestic cups and Europa League

[El Denzel Pepito]

I would give him the last 15-20mins in about 10-15 games (all competitions) that should be enough to help him progress.

Yeah, that seems about right. Maybe the occasional start in a Europa League/Carling Cup match but that's about it.

[El_Pistolero]

Destroying Eastern European fullbacks  since August 2012.

[TLW 84]

top prospect. Thanks Rafa.

[Inverse]

We have sold dirky right?
Get in raheeeeem

[rowan_d]

top prospect. Thanks Rafa.

Better make sure -Q- doesn't see that

[Fauxy]

Now that Maxi's gone, can we use his song for Sterling? 

Raheem, Oh Raheem Sterling runs down the wing for me Du du du du du du du du du du

 

[rowan_d]

Sterliiiiiiing Sterling! Da-la-da-na-da-er

To the tune of Stingray

[DyingAtheist]

Now that Maxi's gone, can we use his song for Sterling? 

Raheem, Oh Raheem Sterling runs down the wing for me Du du du du du du du du du du

 

I think we need to leave it with Maxi. Unless you were joking, in which case, damn the internet.
Regardless, as people have said, he should still be used sparingly. A couple of starts in the Europe and Carling (more if warranted) as well as  cameo appearances in the league and FA cup.

[LondonBarnes]

Its unfair to compare and to expect anything.It will only do him harm.

Players have different bodies,Different growing speeds etc.  Giggs may have been more ready at 16 than sterling is now.On the other hand sterling might have been better at 16 than giggs was at 17.

The comparisons are worthless and only put stupid pressure on them.If he players 20 games next year then thats progress and if he impresses within 20 games then Im sure he will play more.

Not putting any pressure on the lad at all or expecting anything anywhere Gigg's level at 18. It is however sometimes interesting to compare players.