Author Topic: Liverpool v Wigan Athletic, Sat 24th March 2012, 1500 ko. (Read 29094 times)

SRAWL · « **Reply #160 on:** March 22, 2012, 08:59:23 PM »

Reina dropped? As if. I think Reina's form has dipped since Valero left.

lachesis · « **Reply #161 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:00:34 PM »

Quote from: shravan.satya on March 22, 2012, 08:57:35 PM

off topic but after Suarez's shot hit the post, who took the second shot before Kuyt turned the rebound in? The stream i watched it in was shite.

Downing

shravan.satya · « **Reply #162 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:01:49 PM »

Quote from: lachesis on March 22, 2012, 09:00:34 PM

Downing

Thanks, mate.

anfieldanfield · « **Reply #163 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:08:22 PM »

Quote from: Z e u s on March 22, 2012, 08:22:17 PM

Three goals, all of which were not his fault.

The criticism of Reina is ridiculous.

I don't think it is ridiculous.

Even the biggest Pepe fan would have to say he has been below his usual high standards this season.

I think part of the problem is having no genuine competition for his place, similar to Jose Enrique.

I'd probably play Doni in the Europa League next season to give Pepe something to think about.

Rohit · « **Reply #164 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:08:32 PM »

Quote from: Lucas DuoFlush on March 22, 2012, 08:36:14 PM

I think calling me a twat is a little far but have a look through my post history and try and find any criticism of Pepe. Maybe once, but honestly I don't think I've ever been critical of him. Just thought last night was very bad in terms of effort from him. Sometimes defenders don't win the header (especially from a good cross) - that doesn't mean a keeper doesn't take any blame - they're there as the last line to save that goal. He didn't try to yesterday.

See heres the thing, your blaming a keeper when it was down to the defenders to stop it pepe did nought wrong. It seems to be the rawk way once something is estabilished about a player i.e pepe being poor this season it becomes a fact when 3 mistakes means he has been poorer but he still be top notch when we have needed. No one wants to mention his save against walcott with thigh or acting as an auxiallary centre back against city.

Don't take it personally, its just I've seen alot of people try to justify reina being poor this season on stupid shit like, oh when was the last time he saved a pen. Its already been decided by some on here that hart is better than reina when it couldn't further from the truth. Hart was shocking yesterday but will be brushed under the carpet and he will be considered the best in the world.

Another cliche johnson can't defend and kelly is better while in truth glen is one of the few world class player we have and is far superior to any fullback in the league. These sort of cliches do my head so don't take it personally.

Also, just seen someone try to justify reina being poor due to a lack of competition. Fuck me have they even seen doni? Reina's only downfall is the loss of xavi valero and he has to basically coach himself.

Gnurglan · « **Reply #165 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:12:14 PM »

Quote from: Brentie on March 22, 2012, 08:09:26 PM

We'll absolutely destroy them, 5-0 at least.

Hope so. Have two Wigan fans at work.

anfieldanfield · « **Reply #166 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:12:52 PM »

Quote from: Rohit on March 22, 2012, 09:08:32 PM

Also, just seen someone try to justify reina being poor due to a lack of competition. Fuck me have they even seen doni? Reina's only downfall is the loss of xavi valero and he has to basically coach himself.

How on earth do you know that's the reason for his poor form and not the lack of competition ?!

It's speculation on both parts.

Either way, Reina has been below par this season.

Z e u s · « **Reply #167 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:14:23 PM »

Quote from: anfieldanfield on March 22, 2012, 09:08:22 PM

I don't think it is ridiculous.

Even the biggest Pepe fan would have to say he has been below his usual high standards this season.

I agree he hasn't hit his usual, ridiculously high standards.

I just don't agree he could have done much about the goals we conceeded last night or that he didn't try, as the poster suggested.

buzzing · « **Reply #168 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:18:05 PM »

We'll start on fire - NOt score. Fans will moan n groan. We'll then score before HT or early 2nd half. We'll go on to win by 1 or 2. We'll then be called amazing, and still be in a chance for 4th

J-Mc- · « **Reply #169 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:27:57 PM »

Quote from: GBF on March 22, 2012, 05:26:01 PM

who aint our bogey team these days (apart from Chelsea)

United?

Luke Timmis · « **Reply #170 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:32:54 PM »

fuck adam off. play shelvey. please

farawayred · « **Reply #171 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:46:47 PM »

Quote from: Luke Timmis on March 22, 2012, 09:32:54 PM

fuck adam off. play shelvey. please

Shhhhh... Fordy is around...

Teddy Ted Ted Anfield Ed · « **Reply #172 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:47:11 PM »

My team would be:- Reina, Kelly, Coates, Skrtel, Enrique, Maxi, Gerrard, Shelvey, Downing, Suarez, Carroll,

CaptainKidd · « **Reply #173 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:48:48 PM »

Wouldn't surprise me if we slip-up again. Wigan always seem to frustrate us.
Can only hope we take-out last night's frustrations on them and serve-up a real pumelling.

stardorman · « **Reply #174 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:50:26 PM »

Quote from: Edward224 on March 22, 2012, 09:47:11 PM

My team would be:- Reina, Kelly, Coates, Skrtel, Enrique, Maxi, Gerrard, Shelvey, Downing, Suarez, Carroll,

Like that side.. with Kelly prob injured.. gonna be Carra RB.
Sterling on the bench would brighten it even more.

Luis7Suarez7 · « **Reply #175 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:51:56 PM »

Quote from: Z e u s on March 22, 2012, 09:14:23 PM

I agree he hasn't hit his usual, ridiculously high standards.

I just don't agree he could have done much about the goals we conceeded last night or that he didn't try, as the poster suggested.

I think he needs to improve his control of the box and his one on ones. He has been poor with those this season. Seems to rarely come out and collect the ball, even when its near the 6 yard box.

With the one on ones, I just think he stays up too long and this results in him getting nutmegged nearly every time a player is one on one with him. Dropped of from his usual standards, and people even mentioned in pre season, but I do think its just a blip. One poor season does not discard what he has done previously. He has showed how good he is, 3 golden gloves show that, and hopefully next season, he steps back up to his usual level.

Noelle · « **Reply #176 on:** March 22, 2012, 10:22:42 PM »

Quote from: Brentie on March 22, 2012, 08:09:26 PM

We'll absolutely destroy them, 5-0 at least.

We'll then draw the next game and then win the semi.

Aside from the scoreline, unfortunately true.

liverpoolfan33 · « **Reply #177 on:** March 22, 2012, 10:24:52 PM »

If Bellamy, Adam and Kelly are injured

Reina
Flanagan Skrtel Coates Aurelio
Spearing
Kuyt Gerrard Shelvey Downing
Suarez

Subs: Doni, Carragher, Enrique, Henderson, Maxi, Carroll, Sterling (Bellamy if available)

Who agrees?

JTorresIntheKOP!! · « **Reply #178 on:** March 22, 2012, 10:26:03 PM »

Quote from: stardorman on March 22, 2012, 09:50:26 PM

Like that side.. with Kelly prob injured.. gonna be Carra RB.
Sterling on the bench would brighten it even more.

maybe give Fabio a game at right back ??

Noelle · « **Reply #179 on:** March 22, 2012, 10:29:09 PM »

Quote from: JTorresIntheKOP!! on March 22, 2012, 10:26:03 PM

maybe give Fabio a game at right back ??

Even if it works out he'll be off injured before the 8 minute mark.

chuckmynorris · « **Reply #180 on:** March 23, 2012, 12:33:27 AM »

Quote from: Didi_ram on March 22, 2012, 03:44:59 PM

That was some of the best passing we'd done this season.We deserved to score 6 before conceding 3.

Yet we didn't.. I don't care if our players score overhead scissor kicks after 300 passes every night while shitting rainbows..

It still doesn't make loss a win.

I'd rather we play the ugliest football I've ever seen and win this games.

Caligula? · « **Reply #181 on:** March 23, 2012, 12:59:44 AM »

Honestly, I don't care. We have (potentially) two games remaining this season, and that's all I'm looking forward to.

I don't care because I know that Kenny will start the same players, and not give a chance to the ones that deserve one. The league's done for us, we've been beyond rubbish and I honestly couldn't care less if we finished 7th or 15th.

UntouchableLuis · « **Reply #182 on:** March 23, 2012, 12:54:15 PM »

Quote from: BG Red on March 23, 2012, 12:59:44 AM

Honestly, I don't care. We have (potentially) two games remaining this season, and that's all I'm looking forward to.

I don't care because I know that Kenny will start the same players, and not give a chance to the ones that deserve one. The league's done for us, we've been beyond rubbish and I honestly couldn't care less if we finished 7th or 15th.

Silly.

I admit I'm so deflated after that QPR defeat but I still want us to win as many as we can from now until the end of the season. We shouldn't be finishing behind Newcastle for a start.

TOMMO86 · « **Reply #183 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:28:41 PM »

expect to see

Reina

Kelly
Carragher
Skrtel
Enrique

Henderson
Spearing
Gerrard
Downing

Suarez
Carroll

BigAl24 · « **Reply #184 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:32:48 PM »

0-0.

written all over it

kkjellquist · « **Reply #185 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:37:41 PM »

Quote from: chuckmynorris on March 23, 2012, 12:33:27 AM

I'd rather we play the ugliest football I've ever seen and win this games.

One order of Stoke coming right up....would you like some Aston Villa on the side sir?

Suspect Package. · « **Reply #186 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:37:53 PM »

Quote from: TOMMO86 on March 23, 2012, 01:28:41 PM

expect to see

Reina

Kelly
Carragher
Skrtel
Enrique

Henderson
Spearing
Gerrard
Downing

Suarez
Carroll

If Kelly is fit, I'd be very surprised if this isn't the team.

I'm still nursing faint hopes of Shelvey being on the bench, while knowing deep down it won't happen.

Skrtels Head · « **Reply #187 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:38:06 PM »

Quote from: BigAl24 on March 23, 2012, 01:32:48 PM

0-0.

written all over it

We won't keep a clean sheet. We'll probably go 0-1 down, from a corner, and scrape a 1-1.

-Q- · « **Reply #188 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:51:32 PM »

Quote from: Z e u s on March 22, 2012, 09:14:23 PM

I agree he hasn't hit his usual, ridiculously high standards.

I just don't agree he could have done much about the goals we conceeded last night or that he didn't try, as the poster suggested.

Not much about the first two, but I think he could have done something for their winner. I've started to worry about Reina to be honest, he has been fairly average for a while - I'm struggling to think of decent saves he has made. He's also made quite a few errors this season. As much as Carroll was to blame for the Crouch goal on Sunday, what Pepe was doing whispering sweet nothings into Ryan Shotton's ears when he should have been ploughing right through him I'll never know. Had a quick google about and found these stats >> http://thepowerofgoals.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/most-exposed-playing-position-on.html

Hope he gets back to his best soon - starting Saturday at 3pm.

Qcase1977 · « **Reply #189 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:52:27 PM »

Think we'll draw simply because we cannot do anything right in the league this season. Getting really pissed off with the fact that our younger and better players are not been given a chance. Adam is terrible. Downings just not good enough. Henderson I feel will be a very good player but only if played in the centre. Luis is great but we need a real stricker beside him. still cannot believe we lost against qpr. Everyone switched off. And the owners surely are worried about out league form. Kenny looks wrecked tired and is just giving defensive answers all the time. I'm a bit worried about the summer. We need a good goal scored and a decent winger. But why are we not letting young lads have a chance? I fooking hate Adams lazy play. I'm just sad now sorry. We should be battling easily for 4th but we're not and surely someone is to blame?

lionel_messias · « **Reply #190 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:56:17 PM »

If Jonjo Shelvey doesn't get at least minutes, he must have run over Kenny's cat or something.

jDJ · « **Reply #191 on:** March 23, 2012, 01:57:06 PM »

Wigan at home is just about the perfect fixture for us, I think we'll win by a couple.

bottleandahalf · « **Reply #192 on:** March 23, 2012, 02:32:00 PM »

Have to spark up for this one.
Would be nice to see some youngsters being given a chance from the bench.
2-0

King Callum · « **Reply #193 on:** March 23, 2012, 03:12:56 PM »

Doubt the youth will get a place in the starting 11 with the negative press at the moment, still need to use these games to help the senior players gel.
I reckon the game will be similar to QPR at home with suarez being the difference. Then again I'd like to see a goalfest to make up for how wednesday finished.

stevo7 · « **Reply #194 on:** March 23, 2012, 03:17:37 PM »

After wednesday I expect something open and mad - 7-2 win.

smig · « **Reply #195 on:** March 23, 2012, 03:21:45 PM »

Quote from: BG Red on March 23, 2012, 12:59:44 AM

Honestly, I don't care. We have (potentially) two games remaining this season, and that's all I'm looking forward to.

I don't care because I know that Kenny will start the same players, and not give a chance to the ones that deserve one. The league's done for us, we've been beyond rubbish and I honestly couldn't care less if we finished 7th or 15th.

Stop cryin' and get on with it. We've played some great stuff all year, we just haven't been able to take our chances frequently enough. There's still plenty to play for.

EmmaWatson · « **Reply #196 on:** March 23, 2012, 03:22:40 PM »

Coates MUST start !

Get · « **Reply #197 on:** March 23, 2012, 03:25:08 PM »

coates will be dropped to the bench, Carra will play.. that i can bet on. a draw.. goaless draw.

Melbred · « **Reply #198 on:** March 23, 2012, 03:26:22 PM »

Quote from: TOMMO86 on March 23, 2012, 01:28:41 PM

expect to see

Reina

Kelly
Carragher
Skrtel
Enrique

Henderson
Spearing
Gerrard
Downing

Suarez
Carroll

Think that'll be it as well. Henderson on the right of a 4-4-2 again. Joy.

Qcase1977 · « **Reply #199 on:** March 23, 2012, 03:28:04 PM »

1-1after us dominating all game sadly.