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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #560 on: March 22, 2012, 05:11:52 PM »
Wow looking at the post again I look like a bit of a turd dont I? Ive deleted it...

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #561 on: March 22, 2012, 05:12:19 PM »
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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #562 on: March 22, 2012, 05:13:38 PM »
We really need to be getting our summer transfers bob on this time. I really hope the club is scouting the globe for some real bargains instead of being lazy and spending fortunes on 'prem-proven' players.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #563 on: March 22, 2012, 05:13:43 PM »
Wow looking at the post again I look like a bit of a turd dont I? Ive deleted it...

i wish you were right with them scores. i wouldnt feel quite so depressed. Thanks for cheering me up (partly)

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #564 on: March 22, 2012, 05:14:54 PM »
Wow looking at the post again I look like a bit of a turd dont I? Ive deleted it...

Don't worry mate, ive posted seen worse. :)

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #565 on: March 22, 2012, 05:16:15 PM »
We really need to be getting our summer transfers bob on this time. I really hope the club is scouting the globe for some real bargains instead of being lazy and spending fortunes on 'prem-proven' players.
Agreed, Spurs and Newcastle two teams above us, the best players in both those sides did not cost obscene amounts of money just good scouting.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #566 on: March 22, 2012, 05:16:51 PM »
Despite all the bullshit I read about Kenny, my faith in him is 100%.

We have a man who gives everything for us and I enjoy watching us play more now. I genuinely think we have been very unlucky at times this season, but I also think we've learnt about some of our current players.

Yes mistakes have been made this season and with some of our signings, but I back Kenny to learn from the mistakes and bring in the right calibre of player this summer and also get more out of our current squad. Kenny is a winner and I'm sure he'll be able to spot the players that lack the winning mentality required at the very top.

I just think we have to be patient and back the good people running  our club. Yes scrutiny is important, but the senior people at the club deserve our backing.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #567 on: March 22, 2012, 05:22:21 PM »
However, we have been very unlucky because we do hit the post a lot, keepers play blinders against us, referees give us fuck all.

Our cup form has been terrific but I do think that papers over the cracks in the league... We do need to do better because sometimes we are really, really poor. Either lack of effort, lack of cohesion or lack of grit and determination. Even when we play good, we dont take our chances and we still dont win. Either way we arent winning games. We would be in the relegation zone if the season started in 2012. Every team bar Man Utd and Man City (and even they have been shite at the best of times) have been crap, it was the perfect chance to get top 4 because this summer teams will definitely be strengthening and improving their squads, and its down to us to do so aswell because otherwise we will fall further down the table and make it clear for everyone to see we are turning into a midtable side. You buy midtable players and you turn into a midtable team with midtable ambitions. Last night proved that.

We need a clinical striker that can actually link with Suarez on the ground, a top quality winger who can change games, a versatile squad attacker with pace, a midfielder who can actually dictate the play and a backup striker with potential but the ability to come in and play well when called upon (like Hernandez for Man Utd)...

Junior Hoilett is one I would be definitely looking at on a free, pacy, skillful and plenty of flair. Javi Martinez is another. He can play CB, DM, CM. Good both offensively and defensively. Would work well with Lucas imo. Could definitely be as effective as the Alonso and Masch pairing which came so close to bringing home the league.

This summer is so key in us challenging for the top 4. If we get it wrong it could really well hit the nail in the coffin. Lots of players will be looking to leave if we continue to do poorly. If Suarez leaves we will be fucked because he is the only one actually doing things of note. Like someone said above, I hope we dont go down the route of PL proven again, unless they are actually quality players. Henderson was a good buy imo, shows quality at times and hopefully the consistency will come soon. Downing is a very good player, hasnt been the luckiest this season, hit the post a few times and suffers from confidence issues. Played well last night, although missed a lot of chances. Next season he will be key because he will allow us to rotate with other squad members and give us the options to rest players like Gerrard/Suarez but also have a threat. If we had better players (particularly strikers) everyone would love him because he would be our top assister but also take the pressure off because other attackers are providing a threat.

Downing, Henderson, Kuyt, Bellamy, Coates, Spearing, Maxi, Shelvey and the like will be very beneficial in order to get fourth because we will have the Europa League, FA Cup, Carling Cup and a lot of pressure to get fourth or above. We need a very big squad to cope. If we add a few quality players to our already decent first 11 I have no doubt we will do well. Yesterday we were class, but again, like it has been all season, we missed too many chances.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #568 on: March 22, 2012, 05:33:07 PM »
Just don't buy any players from other Premier League teams. The Premiership is no longer the best league in the world by miles, other leagues have caught up and have loads of quality, especially at younger ages. Buy cheap, young players that will be able to adapt to physical play and then we'll be in business.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #569 on: March 22, 2012, 07:03:50 PM »
Wearing my chairman's hat i'd rather not spend in the summer so we don't buy more players that don't fit into the team (unless there's a gift horse out there willing to come to a mid table side), i'd rather not empty the bank (if there is anything left) and risk a few kids coming through.

Sounds silly no doubt but i'd rather our new expensive signings (-suarez) are sat down and told you have this season to step up or your out. I'm sick of fannying about with formations and best teams and such, pick 11 and stick with em. Take signings with low financial risk and build that way. You can't rebuild anything if your constantly selling the other half off, give suso and some of the kids a proper chance. At least then we can support people coming through and be less upset when we draw and such knowing we are really building as it's gonna happen anyway.

This side has the potential i think but needs careful management, a little more luck and some consistency beating into them. 2 of the 4 spots are already gone with city and them already there in reality, we will start playing for the other 2 places but see no change to our inability to play consistently in the league, i'd rather build the team than try rebuilding it again by splashing out.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #570 on: March 22, 2012, 07:18:08 PM »
we ned 2 sign cavarni and hazerd because suarex ned mor world calss playa or else he leave 4eva!

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #571 on: March 22, 2012, 07:34:59 PM »
Just don't buy any players from other Premier League teams. The Premiership is no longer the best league in the world by miles, other leagues have caught up and have loads of quality, especially at younger ages. Buy cheap, young players that will be able to adapt to physical play and then we'll be in business.

Exactly, and if you take our league form into consideration, then it is even more worrying. We are shit in a league that is miles behind La Liga :'(
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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #572 on: March 22, 2012, 07:40:14 PM »
Just don't buy any players from other Premier League teams.

I don't think that we should avoid players from other PL clubs by definition, but there are definitely better markets to do the business. I have been very surprised that Comolli hasn't done any shopping in France, for example. The Ligue 1 has been loaded with a new generation of young and talented players in recent years.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #573 on: March 22, 2012, 07:50:02 PM »
If you wish to communicate with earthlings, try English. And who the fuck is SuareX???

He was joking.

Anyway, the next 3 months could be the most important in Kenny's reign. Who he signs now will decide whether he's the right man in 12 months time. We all know we need atleast two class players. We need pace, and clinical finishing, the two things our team lacks. A striker and a winger/attacking midfielder will do me.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #574 on: March 22, 2012, 07:51:35 PM »
He was joking.

Anyway, the next 3 months could be the most important in Kenny's reign. Who he signs now will decide whether he's the right man in 12 months time. We all know we need atleast two class players. We need pace, and clinical finishing, the two things our team lacks. A striker and a winger/attacking midfielder will do me.

I'd suggest two wingers at least. A striker providing we keep Carroll and a central midfielder to play alongside Lucas.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #575 on: March 22, 2012, 07:55:52 PM »
we ned 2 sign cavarni and hazerd because suarex ned mor world calss playa or else he leave 4eva!

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #576 on: March 22, 2012, 07:56:02 PM »
I'd suggest two wingers at least. A striker providing we keep Carroll and a central midfielder to play alongside Lucas.

The way Kenny is setting up his team, we don't really need another winger. A quality creative central midfielder, and a quality prolific striker, and we will be set.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #577 on: March 22, 2012, 08:12:30 PM »
The way Kenny is setting up his team, we don't really need another winger. A quality creative central midfielder, and a quality prolific striker, and we will be set.


Hate to use them as an example but even the Mancs have shown the benefit of having two wingers in this league and even then Downing has alot to prove still.


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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #578 on: March 22, 2012, 08:25:56 PM »
Hate to use them as an example but even the Mancs have shown the benefit of having two wingers in this league and even then Downing has alot to prove still.

As I have suggested in another thread, I would use Downing on the left, and Gerrard on the right. Those two players would fit Kenny's system perfectly at the wide positions, with Gerrard playing a few yards inside. Add to that a fit Lucas, a central midfielder of the Alonso class, and a finisher of the Torres class, and you have a title contending team.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #579 on: March 22, 2012, 08:26:56 PM »
Do you know who would be a good impact sub? Ryan Babel. No joke, we used to get frustrated with him but when we needed a goal who did most of us want to come on. Remember when we brought Voronin on against Lyon at Anfield and the fury on here because Rafa didn't bring on Babel.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #580 on: March 22, 2012, 08:27:50 PM »
As I have suggested in another thread, I would use Downing on the left, and Gerrard on the right. Those two players would fit Kenny's system perfectly at the wide positions, with Gerrard playing a few yards inside. Add to that a fit Lucas, a central midfielder of the Alonso class, and a finisher of the Torres class, and you have a title contending team.

Would Gerrard go back to playing on the right?

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #581 on: March 22, 2012, 08:29:30 PM »
Do you know who would be a good impact sub? Ryan Babel. No joke, we used to get frustrated with him but when we needed a goal who did most of us want to come on. Remember when we brought Voronin on against Lyon at Anfield and the fury on here because Rafa didn't bring on Babel.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #582 on: March 22, 2012, 08:33:16 PM »
He has pace. 'bout it.
I think we sold him too early, he could of been a good striker.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #583 on: March 22, 2012, 08:35:34 PM »
Would Gerrard go back to playing on the right?

If Kenny wants him on the right. He plays on the right.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #584 on: March 22, 2012, 09:08:11 PM »
Despite all the bullshit I read about Kenny, my faith in him is 100%.

We have a man who gives everything for us and I enjoy watching us play more now. I genuinely think we have been very unlucky at times this season, but I also think we've learnt about some of our current players.

Yes mistakes have been made this season and with some of our signings, but I back Kenny to learn from the mistakes and bring in the right calibre of player this summer and also get more out of our current squad. Kenny is a winner and I'm sure he'll be able to spot the players that lack the winning mentality required at the very top.

I just think we have to be patient and back the good people running  our club. Yes scrutiny is important, but the senior people at the club deserve our backing.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #585 on: March 22, 2012, 09:29:37 PM »
Quality DM for me. With Lucas given the job of, literally, bossing our midfield. And another striker.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #586 on: March 22, 2012, 09:30:12 PM »
Junior Hoilett.

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Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #587 on: March 22, 2012, 09:31:53 PM »
I'm comforted by the suggestions I've seen that we're looking at players like Hoilett and Tello, young and genuinelly skilled wide players. Id love to see us bring in a quality DM to play alongside Lucas and solve the two-man-midfield problem we seem to have, and also an out and out striker like Van Wolfswinkel.

All of these are achieveable in the summer with a bit of luck and persuasion.

I also suspect we will lose Carra and Maxi in the summer, maybe also Kuyt, so we need to ensure we still have enough strength in depth.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #588 on: March 22, 2012, 09:36:10 PM »
Buy Gylfi Siguršsson from Hoffenheim...now on loan @ Swansea...great player.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #589 on: March 22, 2012, 09:39:24 PM »
Three signings and we can compete for top 4 next season, in my opinion.

A top quality central midfielder such as Yann M'Villa.
A quality wide forward who can score and assist such as Marko Marin.
And ofcourse a top striker, like a Klass Jan Huntelaar or a Gieseppi Rossi.

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« Reply #590 on: March 22, 2012, 09:39:40 PM »
Get rid of Carroll, Adam, possibly Downing (been improving of late, but would still look to upgrade if we can get a price for a proven Premiership international - the transfer market is a bit like the stock market as long as there are mugs out there, you can benefit). Bring in technically better and more gifted of any nationality.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #591 on: March 22, 2012, 09:40:10 PM »
I'm not asking for Cavani or Hazard etc.

But surely there's something in between mediocrity and world class, right?
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« Reply #592 on: March 22, 2012, 09:44:16 PM »
Buy Gylfi Siguršsson from Hoffenheim...now on loan @ Swansea...great player.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #593 on: March 22, 2012, 09:45:41 PM »
Get rid of Carroll, Adam, possibly Downing (been improving of late, but would still look to upgrade if we can get a price for a proven Premiership international - the transfer market is a bit like the stock market as long as there are mugs out there, you can benefit). Bring in technically better and more gifted of any nationality.

Why get rid of them all though because then we will not only need to replace them in the first team, but then replace them as squad players aswell.

I would keep Downing for sure as a squad player. Carroll, I am not sure about yet.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #594 on: March 22, 2012, 09:48:51 PM »
Before bringing anyone new in we need to sort out the attitude. The existing players must show some desire to win every single game and not let weaker teams come from 2-0 down. Until that happens there's no point bringing in more player who will "catch the apathy virus". We win some big games and then we get turned over by teams who want the game more than we do.
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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #595 on: March 22, 2012, 10:07:27 PM »
I dont think theres anything wrong with the players weve bought. Downing is looking brilliant now. Henderson, as much as people slate him we cant fault his technical abilities and will be good in the coming years. Enrique, I say his name and need I say no more. Coates, he looks a colosus and will be good in years to come. Adam, ok hes not brilliant but for 6m what do you expect?

We have a foundation, final ball, killer instinct quality right midfielder. If anything, just the clinical finisher we can attempt to progress some youth for the other areas.

We arent as far off as we think, semi final and a cup is not something we were expecting this time last year in all fairness.

We have europe next year, europa but its europe & possibility of 3 more trips to wembo. Fa cup semi, final and charity shield - in one year!

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #596 on: March 22, 2012, 10:10:40 PM »
Before we bring anybody in, we need to make sure we keep hold of the likes of Reina, Agger, Enrique, Lucas, Skrtel, Johnson, and Suarez, of course.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #597 on: March 22, 2012, 10:13:54 PM »
Before we bring anybody in, we need to make sure we keep hold of the likes of Reina, Agger, Enrique, Lucas, Skrtel, Johnson, and Suarez, of course.

Exactly. All this "Glenjo earns too much, lets sell him" talk is very disturbing IMO.

And I don't think we can underestimate the loss of Nando, Meireles and (very likely)Aqua as factors in our weak league season.
NESV era players bought minus players sold minus wages reduced
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And add the cash for Meireles+Aquilani off the books to the above...!
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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #598 on: March 22, 2012, 10:15:39 PM »
Exactly. All this "Glenjo earns too much, lets sell him" talk is very disturbing IMO.

And I don't think we can underestimate the loss of Nando, Meireles and (very likely)Aqua as factors in our weak league season.

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Re: Kenny Dalglish: Only the best for Liverpool FC in the summer
« Reply #599 on: March 22, 2012, 10:18:37 PM »
Downing is looking brilliant now.

He's getting better but he hasn't been brilliant yet