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Football Specials
« on: March 16, 2012, 11:26:05 PM »
Im new 2 red and white kop i used 2 go the games years ago and remember the football specials that they used 2 run 2 the games i remember winning the league at wolverhampton in 1976 and there were 14 trains from Liverpool i remember going 2 wembley v forest in 1978 and read in a paper on the train 2 wembley that forest had 14 trains while there were 27 special trains from lime st and edge hill at 8 minuite intervals can you imagine that now 27 special trains does anyone have memories of going 2 the matches on the football specials.
Still got the scar on the back off my head from Blackbeards truncheon all the Liverpool lads used 2 call me the Lancaster Bomber, some of the lads know me as Marsy as my full name is Graham Marsden no relation to Gerry Im aged 53.

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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2012, 11:30:14 PM »
Great first post there Bomber

I was too young for the Wolves game but it is legend.

Find the 'Auld Uns' thread in here, quiet a few of the boys in there were at the Wolves game.

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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 11:32:44 PM »
Yes, they were shit, dead slow, jaffa used to do yer head in looking for sponsors for his next marathon and they'd break down. Other than that, best time of me life.

The ordinary was where it was at though.

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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 11:35:07 PM »
Oh ye, hello.
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 11:45:18 PM »
I'll be moving it over, rather quicker than the train.
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2012, 11:58:51 PM »
Specials then then using the Persil on the ordinary happy days.
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2012, 12:05:21 AM »
I do remember that they ran special trains 2 Rome in both 77 and 84 i never went but i bet there will be great memories of them occasions ive been on the specials 2 man utd in the late seventies and early eighties that was real fun and also meet up with the specials at leeds away but a lot of the lads used 2 get the day trains 2 places like birmingham and london i remember going 2 the pubs near euston called the lion and lamb and the sommerstown.
Still got the scar on the back off my head from Blackbeards truncheon all the Liverpool lads used 2 call me the Lancaster Bomber, some of the lads know me as Marsy as my full name is Graham Marsden no relation to Gerry Im aged 53.

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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2012, 12:28:57 AM »
Stank of piss, booze. Everything you would expect. Still some amazing days out!

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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2012, 12:37:40 AM »
I was on preston station coming home back 2 lancaster in about 1975 or 1976 and i saw the forest special train coming through preston  station going back home 2 nottingham they had been playing at carlisle.
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2012, 12:45:57 AM »
Ordinary to Chelsea.
Anyone on one when they pulled the communication cord at Fords?
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 12:56:15 AM »
Stank of piss, booze. Everything you would expect. Still some amazing days out!

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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 01:00:50 AM »
Freezin cold, stinkin of piss and stale beer, starvin most of the time.....Happy days they were!
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 06:56:57 AM »
Used them alot in the late 70's and early 80's as I was young(ish) and skint and they were more fun than the coach. Went to Paris on one in 1981 that left Lime Street at 10pm on the Tuesday and got to Paris at about mid day Wednesday, was back on the Thursday in time for a quick wash and then the parade. All very exciting for a 16yo on his own with his mates.

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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 07:41:29 AM »
Freezin cold, stinkin of piss and stale beer, starvin most of the time.....Happy days they were!

Ah the good old days
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 08:00:51 AM »
Im new 2 red and white kop i used 2 go the games years ago and remember the football specials that they used 2 run 2 the games i remember winning the league at wolverhampton in 1976 and there were 14 trains from Liverpool i remember going 2 wembley v forest in 1978 and read in a paper on the train 2 wembley that forest had 14 trains while there were 27 special trains from lime st and edge hill at 8 minuite intervals can you imagine that now 27 special trains does anyone have memories of going 2 the matches on the football specials.

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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2012, 09:17:43 AM »
Never had any light bulbs once you got past Crewe coz we used to lob them all at the Wools and the spotters on the platforms!
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2012, 09:21:36 AM »
Never had any light bulbs once you got past Crewe coz we used to lob them all at the Wools and the spotters on the platforms!
and they still made you an officer...
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2012, 09:22:40 AM »
The only special I went on was the Wrexham to Bidston train...
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2012, 09:41:21 AM »
and they still made you an officer...

Even though you've got none, I'd make your hair curl with some of my Day Train exploits. Those were the days my friend!
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2012, 09:43:21 AM »
Even though you've got none, I'd make your hair curl with some of my Day Train exploits. Those were the days my friend!
well that's what this thread is for...
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2012, 12:03:56 PM »
Bladdered on cans of harp lager! Only ever got them for the special. Weird.
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2012, 12:28:54 PM »
Anyone remember mini weekends in London.
Out saturday on the train,stay overnight in hotel with breaky,back sunday afternoon,£8 the lot.
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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2012, 12:53:55 PM »
Never had any light bulbs once you got past Crewe coz we used to lob them all at the Wools and the spotters on the platforms!
I remember going from Liverpool 2 QPR on the first game of the season in 1975 and there were man yoo fans on crewe i think they were going 2 wolves and the abuse everyone gave them was unreal i was also on one of specials coming back from leicester about sept same year when the mailbags were robbed on leicester train station now that was very naughty.
Still got the scar on the back off my head from Blackbeards truncheon all the Liverpool lads used 2 call me the Lancaster Bomber, some of the lads know me as Marsy as my full name is Graham Marsden no relation to Gerry Im aged 53.

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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2012, 03:53:20 PM »
BR always used old stock, as everyone knew they'd be wrecked. I remember going on one to the 88 Charity Shield at Wembley, piece about them here, although i't's more a Doc about football hooligans of the 70s & 80s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRy5qG4kXMQ&feature=related

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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2012, 04:31:21 PM »
Near went under one, rotten drunk, missed it, it pulled away, made a dive for the door missed. Threw me mates shoes out the window of one, left him walking round Birmingham in he's socks. Great days, indeed.
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« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2012, 04:32:49 PM »
I remember going from Liverpool 2 QPR on the first game of the season in 1975 and there were man yoo fans on crewe i think they were going 2 wolves and the abuse everyone gave them was unreal i was also on one of specials coming back from leicester about sept same year when the mailbags were robbed on leicester train station now that was very naughty.
Got chased round Earls Court by QPR fans, collared me an me on our todds, chased by QPfuckinR... now that was very embarrasing.
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2012, 04:33:57 PM »
The only special I went on was the Wrexham to Bidston train...
Special Brew yer liar
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2012, 04:53:20 PM »
PLATFORM 9..   dave kirby

The millennium stadium 2001
a shining example to everyone
two sets of fans, drink arm in arm
in an atmosphere of total calm.

Outside the pubs they congregate
there was no need to segregate
they share the buses and the trains
and walk together to the game.

As I reflect upon that day
I pray it always stays that way
because I remember vividly
the way that football used to be.

The mods from the early sixties days
moved on into a different phase
they cropped their hair, got rid of their suits
then put on jeans and airwair boots.

These skinhead boys looked quite a menace
especially on a football terrace
where Β‘agroΒ’ was the battle cry
then heads and fists and boots would fly.

This escalated out of hand
to football clubs throughout the land
it was impossible not to get involved
for hooliganism had truly evolved.

To watch your team away those days
you’d catch a ‘special’ football train
at lime St. station where hundreds of reds
would all prepare for battle ahead.

These ‘special’ trains were very old
uncomfortable and always cold
they carried 700 at a time
and always left from platform 9.

Youd turn up with your little crew
and make your way to the back of the queue
youd see flemings jeans, boots and braces
Liverpool had some real hard cases.

Newcastle station in 74
the train was still moving as you jumped out the door
700 lads all up for ‘a go’
sang Β“ hello hello scousers agro .”

It didnt take long till the geordies arrived
hundreds of them on the street outside
“ stick together boys, dont split up “
If we dont ‘have a go’ we are gonna get ####ed.

Their crew outnumbered ours by far
some geordie jumped on top of a car
he threw a bottle, then screamed abuse
the next thing we knew, all hell broke loose.

They charged at us, and us at them
felt like we’re outnumbered 1 - 10
I got a terrible smack, and seen ‘white stars’
then my mate got ran over by a passing car.

The aftermath was a shocking sight
after police moved in and stopped the fight
injuries everywhere, it seemed so surreal
with my mate trapped under a motor car wheel.

I never got to see that game
with my buddy ‘franny’ in so much pain
heΒ’d broken his hip in that affray
and walks with a limp to this very day.

I dont know how I stayed alive
after going to Leeds in 75
but a knight in shining armour came
a kirkby ‘physcho’ mad gerry his name.

At lime st there was something wrong
2 ‘specials’ laid off, there was now only one
we knew the match tickets had been sold
but the safe bet at Leeds was to travel by road.

It was butterfly time as we boarded the train
just 300 in number for this powder keg game
there was a worried expression on every man
then at ’Leeds city’ station the party began.

We piled off the train, there was no turning back
mad gerry was frightening as he led the attack
there was roaring, and car horns, and breaking glass
in the famous battle of the underpass.

As we got to the middle, they attacked from both sides
we fought like ####, there was no place to hide
hand to hand combat, on this scale was rare
there was pandemonium everywhere.

For 25 minutes with no police around
there were bodies thumping and hitting the ground
a Leeds fan gave my brother a smack
so I head butted him right onto his back.

I must admit id had enough
when the coppers came and broke it up
police vans, dog vans, by the load
then escorted us to elland road.

before the match ended gerry wised us up
“when the gates are open lets get to ####”
so off to the station, a 3 mile hike
on our heels, the biggest mob iv seen in my life.

Buses would pass us, absolutely packed
theyΒ’d get off and charge, trying to force us all back
but with Β‘mad gerryΒ’ leading the line
we fought our way through them every time.

In all the away games that iv ever been
the Leeds mob that day was the biggest iv seen
they were right when they said , if you went there by train
you would never travel there by that means again.



Β‘Mad gerryΒ’ that day was a general at large
he fired us all up and led every charge
a natural leader who saved 300 lives
in the underpass battle of 75.

As the 70Β’s moved forward, a new dawn began
The scousers pioneered Β‘the designer fanΒ’
Off came the braces, off came the boots
In came the Β‘trainersΒ’ and Lonsdale tracksuits.

The rest of the country were slow to catch up
when we travelled away we were easily sussed
In our Adidas Samba and Lois jeans
we may have looked different, but weΒ’re still pretty mean

But it was violent everywhere
youd seen so many brawls that you just didnt care
it became 2nd nature, a bit of a laugh
just part and parcel of going the match.

Kings rd London, venue sloane square
the chelsea Β‘headhuntersΒ’ met us there
the cockneys were very well organized
we came out of the station but were forced back inside.

They forced us back down the moving stairs
then seemed content to leave us there
it wasnt long till we found out
what their plan was all about.

A tube train stopped, opened its doors
out came chelsea fans by the score
they ran up from the underground
as the ones up top were running down.

With absolutely nowhere to go
we decided to take the ones below
we managed to push them back onto the train
it was when they pulled out that the real horror came.

By the ones up above, we were being pushed back
to an electric underground railway track
the lads on the platform, who were nearest the line
went through a nightmare of a time.

Through sheer weight of numbers they were all dropping down
nowhere to climb up as they rallied around
imagine the fear that went through their minds
not knowing if a tube , would appear on the line.

I was so ####ing scared on that escalator
that id have kicked the shit out the Β‘terminatorΒ’
I was hit by something, but felt no pain
rather under the cosh, than under a train.

A fight on an escalator is no fun at all
you lose your balance, and always fall
if you ever get chased in London town
dont ####ing run up, the ones that come down.

In a screaming rage, we all attacked
to the sheer relief of the ones at the back
B.R. turned the power off on the tubes
an event which made the national news.

It wasnt always quite this bad
it depended on the mobs they had
youd always have a laugh and joke
at Bolton, Ipswich town, and Stoke.

The eighties came and things went mad
the violence got vicious and twice as bad
not just a kicking anymore
as stanley knives came to the fore.

This was a real dodgy time
but still youΒ’d travel down the line
paranoid every step of the way
and all to watch the redmen play.

The annual trip to man utd
had every die hard red excited
weΒ’d go in thousands to that match
we loved to invade their precious patch.

The crew that traveled in 81
were the craziest crew iv stumbled on
they left a trail of sheer destruction
and on trafford bridge, caused mass disruption.

When we arrived at warwick rd
the coppers were all in Β‘panic modeΒ’
we could hear the riot up ahead
which was started by the Kensington Reds.

They were holding the bridge like a cavalry fort
there were thousands of us in a police escort
it was like a bugler had sounded his horn
as we broke through the escort, like Zulu Dawn.
The Mancs didΒ’nt know what had hit them that day
they were battered then scattered in every way
The Kenny crew went by coach and got pissed
then said Β“ah #### it , lets go and take the bridgeΒ”

Man City was just as bad as well
the surrounding roads were sheer hell
You didΒ’nt know who the #### youΒ’d meet
in that maze of coronation streets.

To go by car was just plain silly
so youΒ’d catch the train to Piccadilly
Theres safety in numbers so they say
but not when the Mancs came out to play.

The rivalry is well renowned
there was always murder around that town
A constant battling war crusade
whilst dodging bricks and stanley blades.

Other fans were also bad
the London boys were ####ing mad
Most fans done a quick u-turn
from West Hams inter city firm.

The first time we went to boroΒ’s ground
there was total ructions in their town
A two mile dash through shopping malls
whilst fighting hundreds of boro scalls.

The mayhem came right out the blue
you didΒ’nt know who the #### was who
Dont know how many times I was asked the time
shrugged my shoulders, punched them, then moved down the line.

Then at Middlesboro station I finally got pummeled
took a terrible kicking in the underground tunnel
Our kid who is quiet then led an attack
put me back on my feet then took me up to the track.



The following day I could just about walk
My jaw was so swollen I could just about talk
Felt like IΒ’d been dragged, tied to a horse
but football and beatings were par for the course

I could mention Rome in Β‘84
Birmingham New St, and many more
Like the chaos at Tottenham in Β‘81
were the seven sisters Β‘went off Β’ like an atom bomb.

There are hundreds of stories that I could relate
IΒ’m not saying there clever or macho or great
IΒ’m just writing it down so it can be seen
what you had to go through for the love of your team.

To deny that it happened, or to turn a blind eye
would be stubbornly foolish and a downright lie
The only way forward is to conquer our fears
letΒ’s face it, it went on over 25 years.

As I piece it together now middle aged
I see some of the reasons which started those dayΒ’s
You lived and breathed football with all of your mates
It was your only release from the council estates.

It became like religion, a tribal thing
It was a society that made it a boxing ring
Working class youths, nothing else in their lives
saw a way of being identified.

So youΒ’d follow your team through thick and thin
even though you risked getting your head kicked in
YouΒ’d travel through the wind and rain
on a B.R special football train.

It was such a different story then
youΒ’d be thrown into the lions den
And laid your life upon the line
When you took a train from platform 9.


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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2012, 05:42:27 PM »
Fantastic enjoyed that it was great first class.
Still got the scar on the back off my head from Blackbeards truncheon all the Liverpool lads used 2 call me the Lancaster Bomber, some of the lads know me as Marsy as my full name is Graham Marsden no relation to Gerry Im aged 53.

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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2012, 06:05:09 PM »
Got chased round Earls Court by QPR fans, collared me an me on our todds, chased by QPfuckinR... now that was very embarrasing.
I went 2 west ham in the cup in Jan 76 we won 2-0 i went on the service train from Lancaster and i met up with some lads from whitehaven the train got delayed didnt get in euston till 215pm and was told that the liverpool specials would not get 2 london 4 the start of the game due 2 problems on the line we got 2 upton park just on kick off and ended up in the chicken run got legged by all the west ham proper scary moment went back 2 west ham many of times the specials used 2 go 2 barking remember going there in 1995 it was a sunday game i came out of upton park  and there was a notice in the window of the queens pub the pub on the right out of upton park station it said west ham supporters welcome liverpool fans 2 the queens bar i went in 4a beer it was ok both sets of supporters mixing nicely how times changed dont know were the ICF were.
Still got the scar on the back off my head from Blackbeards truncheon all the Liverpool lads used 2 call me the Lancaster Bomber, some of the lads know me as Marsy as my full name is Graham Marsden no relation to Gerry Im aged 53.

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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2012, 06:23:09 PM »
Anyone remember mini weekends in London.
Out saturday on the train,stay overnight in hotel with breaky,back sunday afternoon,£8 the lot.
Happy days.
I went 2 the league cup final in 81 v West Ham on 1 of the rail/hotel tickets think we payed £12 went with a lad from Lancaster who was about 17 he was 3 years younger than me we went Friday and came back sat night we went round the west end Friday night and drank a little 2 much beer my mate was sick in the sink next morning it was a nightmare getting a shower with the stenche in the bathroom we stayed near gloucester road poor lad had never drank as much in his life. Great times.
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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2012, 07:56:27 PM »
Mention the 14 to West Ham 'Special' that was cancelled and made front page news in the 80's. Makes me laugh now when you speak to some of the Aul arses, everyone was one of the 14 who booked! If i counted everyone I've heard say this we would have taken 5 full specials!!

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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2012, 08:51:43 PM »
Went by train to the European final against Bruges in 78.
Kennys sublime chip,what a goal.
On the train back to limey the train was rockin,never seen so much ale in all my life dont even know where it all came from.
Everyone was pissed,fucking great times.
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« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2012, 09:03:38 PM »
Never had any light bulbs once you got past Crewe coz we used to lob them all at the Wools and the spotters on the platforms!

Ours always ended up with no toilets; they went out the windows as well. !!!! :banned
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« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2012, 09:08:52 PM »
As a young teenager, I can safely say that travelling on a special was one of the most terrifying experiences of my life.

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Re: Football Specials
« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2012, 09:15:58 PM »
Anyone on the one at Watford when a certain set of scalls used the special as a getaway car after doing a Jewellers in Watford? Happy days. We managed to split the escort and got of for a few bevvies while the bizzies tried in vain to search for swag! ;D
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« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2012, 09:17:10 PM »
Remember the winter when all the trains were called off, wind blew all the overheads down. We played West Ham. I hitched from Haydock Island, must have been about 50 reds there... frightening.
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« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2012, 09:18:50 PM »
Anyone on the one at Watford when a certain set of scalls used the special as a getaway car after doing a Jewellers in Watford? Happy days. We managed to split the escort and got of for a few bevvies while the bizzies tried in vain to search for swag! ;D

Similar episode at Forest, bizies stopped & came on between Speke & Edge Hill!
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« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2012, 09:22:09 PM »
Similar episode at Forest, bizies stopped & came on between Speke & Edge Hill!
I used to jump off at Edge Hill... aul one for the aul ones.
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