Author Topic: International Rugby Union Draft 2012 Chat/Discussion Thread (Read 8605 times)

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #640 on:** March 24, 2012, 07:54:38 PM »

Quote from: Sarge on March 24, 2012, 07:52:33 PM

Nick just lost the Munster vote

Part of the appeal to he honest!

Jones, Back and Parisse...you're not getting much change from them!

rusty-la · « **Reply #641 on:** March 24, 2012, 07:54:51 PM »

Quote from: Sarge on March 24, 2012, 07:41:41 PM

Number 13 - Centre

Gareth Thomas

1. 2. Raphael Ibanez 3.

4. Ian Jones 5.

6. Rocky Elsom 8. 7. Serge Betso

9. Joost Van Der Westhuizen

10. Neil Jenkins

11. Phillipe Saint-Andre 12. Tim Horan 13. Gareth Thomas 14.

15. JPR Williams
Thoughts?

Thats quiet a side Sarge. Although ugly fckrs.

You wont win the ladies vote.

But with Gareth in there you may gain the 'pink' vote.

Trumps · « **Reply #642 on:** March 24, 2012, 07:55:01 PM »

Quote from: Sarge on March 24, 2012, 07:45:37 PM

Whoops!!

Why?

A bit too smash and bash, not enough dynamism. Elsom ran hot and cold.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #643 on:** March 24, 2012, 07:58:19 PM »

Quote from: rusty-la on March 24, 2012, 07:54:51 PM

Thats quiet a side Sarge. Although ugly fckrs.

You wont win the ladies vote.

But with Gareth in there you may gain the 'pink' vote.

Gareth Thomas would be voting for my boys. They've almost turned me.

royhendo · « **Reply #644 on:** March 24, 2012, 07:59:44 PM »

Quote from: rusty-la on March 24, 2012, 07:50:08 PM

Kronfeld re-wrote the book for Number 7s

He was a decent player, but rewrote the book? There are older generation picks from these shores who offered the same. Players like that were often overlooked in favour of the more standard set piece fayre some would argue, without *ahem* naming any names.

Trumps · « **Reply #645 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:03:52 PM »

Quote from: royhendo on March 24, 2012, 07:59:44 PM

He was a decent player, but rewrote the book? There are older generation picks from these shores who offered the same. Players like that were often overlooked in favour of the more standard set piece fayre some would argue, without *ahem* naming any names.

Kronfeld took Michael Jones' baton and ran with it. I thought that 1995 All Black side took the game to a new level, the first real signs of the professional era effecting the physique and athleticism of players. Different rules and different techniques required for the ruck pre- and post-professionalism and Kronfeld put the blueprint down on how it should be done.

Sarge · « **Reply #646 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:04:11 PM »

If we loose we'll ride ya!!

Sarge · « **Reply #647 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:05:24 PM »

Quote from: Trumps on March 24, 2012, 07:55:01 PM

A bit too smash and bash, not enough dynamism. Elsom ran hot and cold.

A smash and bash is good up front making space for that back line.

Trumps · « **Reply #648 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:06:16 PM »

Quote from: Sarge on March 24, 2012, 08:05:24 PM

A smash and bash is good up front making space for that back line.

Just my tastes. Your number 8 could change the balance...

Sarge · « **Reply #649 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:06:17 PM »

Quote from: rusty-la on March 24, 2012, 07:54:51 PM

Thats quiet a side Sarge. Although ugly fckrs.

You wont win the ladies vote.

But with Gareth in there you may gain the 'pink' vote.

Loving my back line.

rusty-la · « **Reply #650 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:07:40 PM »

Quote from: Sarge on March 24, 2012, 08:06:17 PM

Loving my back line.

As is Gareth

Sarge · « **Reply #651 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:07:58 PM »

Quote from: Trumps on March 24, 2012, 08:06:16 PM

Just my tastes. Your number 8 could change the balance...

Watch this space. What about my 9 & 10?

Sarge · « **Reply #652 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:08:16 PM »

Quote from: rusty-la on March 24, 2012, 08:07:40 PM

As is Gareth

Fuck off.

Ray K · « **Reply #653 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:08:44 PM »

I'm done, shaunod's up next

15.
14. S. Sivivatu
13.
12. J Guscott
11. S. Williams
10. P Bennett
9. M Phillips
8. I Harinordoquy
7.
6.
5. P O'Connell
4. WJ McBride
3
2. J Smit
1. G. Jenkins

Liking that look: Big beasts in the pack and the silky running and endless try-scoring in the backs

Sarge · « **Reply #654 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:09:58 PM »

Ouch, Sivivatu was put aside by me for Thomas.

royhendo · « **Reply #655 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:11:19 PM »

Quote from: Trumps on March 24, 2012, 08:03:52 PM

Kronfeld took Michael Jones' baton and ran with it. I thought that 1995 All Black side took the game to a new level, the first real signs of the professional era effecting the physique and athleticism of players. Different rules and different techniques required for the ruck pre- and post-professionalism and Kronfeld put the blueprint down on how it should be done.

Think he's a great pick, Kronfeld, don't get me wrong. But that side wasn't anywhere near as good as the generation before it for me.

rusty-la · « **Reply #656 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:11:52 PM »

Quote from: royhendo on March 24, 2012, 07:59:44 PM

He was a decent player, but rewrote the book? There are older generation picks from these shores who offered the same. Players like that were often overlooked in favour of the more standard set piece fayre some would argue, without *ahem* naming any names.

Its all about opinions Hendo. For a couple of years Kronfeld played 7 for the All Blacks in a way I'd never seen before. He influenced the game, and the laws of the time, in a way that was unique. He had a massive impact.

Then he joined Leicester.

Sarge · « **Reply #657 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:16:41 PM »

The Country Leaderboard is quite interesting, Aussies and The Boks who are 2 time World Champs behind Wales and England.

Anywhichwayucan · « **Reply #658 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:17:50 PM »

Good to see Bias is alive and swanning around.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #659 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:20:18 PM »

Three of my ten so far are from Italy and Argentina, I like the underdog!

Sarge · « **Reply #660 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:25:08 PM »

Mine is made up of 3 Welsh, 1 All Black, 2 Aussies, 1 Bok and a couple of Frogs. Jaysus not an Irishman in sight, not bias here.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #661 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:30:00 PM »

The only two Englishmen I have are world cup winners so I've been pretty impartial too I would say. Just need some grunt up front now but liking my balance so far.

1.
2.
3.
4. Bakkies Botha
5.
6. Neil Back
7. Michael Jones
8. Sergio Parisse

9. Agustin Pichot
10. Andrew Mehrtens
11. Joe Rocokoko
12. Felipe Contepomi
13. Jaque Fourie
14/15(tbc). Jason Robinson

Sarge · « **Reply #662 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:35:20 PM »

1. 2. Raphael Ibanez 3.

4. Ian Jones 5.

6. Rocky Elsom 8. 7. Serge Betso

9. Joost Van Der Westhuizen

10. Neil Jenkins

11. Phillipe Saint-Andre 12. Tim Horan 13. Gareth Thomas 14.

15. JPR Williams

I think 5 & 8 are going to be huge for me, i have pace and power but i just need some balance plus a couple of monster probs.

royhendo · « **Reply #663 on:** March 24, 2012, 08:53:09 PM »

Quote from: rusty-la on March 24, 2012, 08:11:52 PM

Its all about opinions Hendo. For a couple of years Kronfeld played 7 for the All Blacks in a way I'd never seen before. He influenced the game, and the laws of the time, in a way that was unique. He had a massive impact.

Then he joined Leicester.

Tremendous player. Looks like John C. Reilly.

royhendo · « **Reply #664 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:21:00 PM »

Can I just say Sarge, I'm really enjoying this whole thing mate. Well done everybody!

DanJay87 · « **Reply #665 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:25:14 PM »

certainly a great tonic to the football being served up over the last few days. Enjoying it

Sarge · « **Reply #666 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:30:53 PM »

No problem lads but if i have to go out again and this messing starts again it will be bed with no Rugby for a week, do ya hear me!!

Ray K · « **Reply #667 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:35:25 PM »

Quote from: Sarge on March 24, 2012, 09:30:53 PM

No problem lads but if i have to go out again and this messing starts again it will be bed with no Rugby for a week, do ya hear me!!

But..but..but... it was the babysitter's fault!

rusty-la · « **Reply #668 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:40:28 PM »

Quote from: royhendo on March 24, 2012, 09:21:00 PM

Can I just say Sarge, I'm really enjoying this whole thing mate. Well done everybody!

Fair play Sarge for sorting this out.

Ive got my man Trumps down to win. He's picking a great team and my goodness they are handsome.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #669 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:41:15 PM »

Quote from: Ray K on March 24, 2012, 09:35:25 PM

But..but..but... it was the babysitter's fault!

She led you on too?

rusty-la · « **Reply #670 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:44:19 PM »

Quote from: Crosby Nick on March 24, 2012, 09:41:15 PM

She led you on too?

Me three

Sarge · « **Reply #671 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:48:54 PM »

Round 10

rusty-la Mario Ledesma
Sarge Gareth Thomas
Crosby Nick Neil Back
Ray K Sitiveni Sivivatu
lfcshaunod
Royhendo
Jillc
DanJay87
exiledintheusa
Jason23
Billy the Kid
Terry_Tibbs

After 9 Rounds.

Country No. of Players

New Zealand 23
Wales 18
England 16
South Africa 13
Australia 11
France 11
Ireland 6
Argentina 4
Scotland 3
Italy 2

royhendo · « **Reply #672 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:49:06 PM »

Just need my laser-guided lineout delivery now and the platform's built

lfcshaunod · « **Reply #673 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:52:49 PM »

1. Tony Woodcock 2. Brian Moore 3. Jason Leonard

4. 5.

6. Francois Pienaar 7. Lewis Moody

8. Zinzane Brooke

9. Gareth Edwards

10. Stephen Larkham

12.

13. Percy Montgomery

11. 14.

15. Stirling Mortlock

What do you reckon?

MBL? · « **Reply #674 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:54:32 PM »

How have none of you Irish c*nts not picked Gibson yet?

Quote from: Crosby Nick on March 24, 2012, 07:03:12 PM

I went for Contepomi to play inside centre. Always good to have a second kicking option and he should be able to get the pacy men outside him moving.

A man after my own heart.

rusty-la · « **Reply #675 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:56:30 PM »

Got some quality in there no doubt.

The weak points are at 7 and 10.

Was Moody ever a real Openside?. If he was there have been lots better.

Larkham at 10 was great when the Aussies were on song, but for me, at test level when things went against them, he went missing far to often. He was targeted because he was fragile.