Author Topic: The Apprentice 2012 (Read 10313 times)

Alan_X · « **Reply #200 on:** April 19, 2012, 10:26:06 AM »

Quote from: tubby on April 18, 2012, 11:51:30 PM

Don't see how Ricky should've gone tonight, he didn't really do anything wrong in the task, just pulled the wrong people into the boardroom. Duane was a bit of an ass to the other two while he was making the video that he wanted to make - he had to be one of the 3.

The other team were a shambles. The Stuart Downing lookalike looked like he was absolutely shitting himself when he was watching the other team's video.

The wrong team lost.

How did the wrong team lose? They went for a bland boring product that didn't really hit any buttons. The other team went for something that was hopeless as an adult product but had potential for the kids and family market. They may have stumbled onto something but there was a spark of originality in it. And that was reflected in the fact that they sold more. These are meant to be entrepreneurs not franchisees.

It was pretty obvious the way the show and the boardroom segment was set up that the spacehoppers would carry the day.

Ricky is a good presenter but he's a bit of a cock, believes his own hype and is riding for a massive fall. He fucked up on the task by not imposing his 'vision' of what he wanted and brought the wrong person (Laura) into the boardroom. He's a narrow-backed fucker - good middle manager but no evidence he's got what it takes.

Trotterwatch · « **Reply #201 on:** April 19, 2012, 10:39:45 AM »

Quote from: ashleyrose-66 on April 19, 2012, 10:10:01 AM

Based on their estimate of £3.50 for a Space Hopper, Hoop and Skipping Rope, if they supplied 8 of each to all 122 clubs, they would have still ended up with a larger margin than the other team.

It boils down to whether they could get all 3 products (2928 items in total) for £3.50. I guess we'll never know (and don't care anyway!)

Wouldn't they be looking at supplying at least 20 though? 8 people per class would be a bit small to hope to recoup the outlay.

Reminds me of the task last year regarding the biscuits when Jim won a massive order from (Asda?) on the basis that he said they were going to spend big on advertising, Harry Potter tie ins etc Just seems a bit unfair that you can promise things such as that and win large orders on the back of it.

Statto Red · « **Reply #202 on:** April 19, 2012, 01:00:22 PM »

Quote from: Alan_X on April 19, 2012, 10:26:06 AM

How did the wrong team lose? They went for a bland boring product that didn't really hit any buttons. The other team went for something that was hopeless as an adult product but had potential for the kids and family market. They may have stumbled onto something but there was a spark of originality in it. And that was reflected in the fact that they sold more. These are meant to be entrepreneurs not franchisees.

It was pretty obvious the way the show and the boardroom segment was set up that the spacehoppers would carry the day.

Ricky is a good presenter but he's a bit of a cock, believes his own hype and is riding for a massive fall. He fucked up on the task by not imposing his 'vision' of what he wanted and brought the wrong person (Laura) into the boardroom. He's a narrow-backed fucker - good middle manager but no evidence he's got what it takes.

Indeed, the wrong team didn't lose, they lost because they sold less than the other team. How many times have we seen it were, one team looks like winning, & the other team getting 0 orders from 2 companies, only to smash the other team into oblivion with a big order from the 3rd company.

The prize has changed, it's no longer The Apprentice as before, it's who LS wants to invest in. Had the last series been in the old format, Tom would have been fired long before he reached the final, but LS saw something in what he was offering, so Tom won, dispite being hopeless most of the series, could be the same this series.

killer_heels · « **Reply #203 on:** April 19, 2012, 01:51:23 PM »

Quote from: Alan_X on April 19, 2012, 10:26:06 AM

How did the wrong team lose? They went for a bland boring product that didn't really hit any buttons. The other team went for something that was hopeless as an adult product but had potential for the kids and family market. They may have stumbled onto something but there was a spark of originality in it. And that was reflected in the fact that they sold more. These are meant to be entrepreneurs not franchisees.

Thing is though 2 of the 3 gyms did snap up Ricky's teams idea. It wasn't great but I thought the win for the other team was so lucky.

Realdidi · « **Reply #204 on:** April 19, 2012, 01:56:37 PM »

Bit annoyed Dwains gone, there's a lot worse left in it, still somehow not been in the bottom 3, also thought Ricky was unlucky to lose the task

filopastry · « **Reply #205 on:** April 19, 2012, 02:25:52 PM »

Quote from: Alan_X on April 19, 2012, 10:26:06 AM

How did the wrong team lose? They went for a bland boring product that didn't really hit any buttons. The other team went for something that was hopeless as an adult product but had potential for the kids and family market. They may have stumbled onto something but there was a spark of originality in it. And that was reflected in the fact that they sold more. These are meant to be entrepreneurs not franchisees.

It was pretty obvious the way the show and the boardroom segment was set up that the spacehoppers would carry the day.

Ricky is a good presenter but he's a bit of a cock, believes his own hype and is riding for a massive fall. He fucked up on the task by not imposing his 'vision' of what he wanted and brought the wrong person (Laura) into the boardroom. He's a narrow-backed fucker - good middle manager but no evidence he's got what it takes.

I'd say they lost because the video was shit, they just adapted the presentation to cover that up after the first pitch, unfortunately in the end it was the first pitch that cost them.

The other team were bloody awful they just lucked into a win with a use for their "idea" that they hadn't thought of, given all 3 of the gyms hated the idea as it was actually presented, I'm not sure that really amounts to much evidence of great commercial acumen.

kellan · « **Reply #206 on:** April 19, 2012, 02:52:19 PM »

I thought it was interesting how the first gym for Ricky's team said they would like to redevelop the product with them, but the third gym for Richard's team basically redeveloped the product for them. And it's that involvement from the third gym that won the task for Richard's team.

Alan_X · « **Reply #207 on:** April 19, 2012, 06:14:18 PM »

Quote from: killer_heels on April 19, 2012, 01:51:23 PM

Thing is though 2 of the 3 gyms did snap up Ricky's teams idea. It wasn't great but I thought the win for the other team was so lucky.

Hardly 'snapped it up' One didn't like it at all, one wasn't interested as presented but offered a derisory one-of payment and the other took three months for a few grand. They should have been embarrassed at just how shit the orders were. The one-off payment was just that - one-off and would not contribute to revenue, so their projected income was what? £4k per quarter divided amongst the team.

If they'd had a half decent idea then they would have cleared up and the other team's spacehopper bollocks wouldn't have touched them.

The fact that they lost to such a shite proposal shows just how fucking awful they were.

Alan_X · « **Reply #208 on:** April 19, 2012, 06:16:03 PM »

Quote from: kellan on April 19, 2012, 02:52:19 PM

I thought it was interesting how the first gym for Ricky's team said they would like to redevelop the product with them, but the third gym for Richard's team basically redeveloped the product for them. And it's that involvement from the third gym that won the task for Richard's team.

The first gym didn't want to develop it with them. They were paying them a one-off fee to walk away.

killer_heels · « **Reply #209 on:** April 19, 2012, 07:12:38 PM »

Quote from: Alan_X on April 19, 2012, 06:14:18 PM

Hardly 'snapped it up' One didn't like it at all, one wasn't interested as presented but offered a derisory one-of payment and the other took three months for a few grand. They should have been embarrassed at just how shit the orders were. The one-off payment was just that - one-off and would not contribute to revenue, so their projected income was what? £4k per quarter divided amongst the team.

If they'd had a half decent idea then they would have cleared up and the other team's spacehopper bollocks wouldn't have touched them.

The fact that they lost to such a shite proposal shows just how fucking awful they were.

Snapped up was the wrong word I guess.

Overall though, I thought the task itself was pretty awful, with the only thing offered being the incredibly cheesy video by Azhar.

Sat1 · « **Reply #210 on:** April 20, 2012, 07:59:47 AM »

Quote from: ashleyrose-66 on April 19, 2012, 10:10:01 AM

Based on their estimate of £3.50 for a Space Hopper, Hoop and Skipping Rope, if they supplied 8 of each to all 122 clubs, they would have still ended up with a larger margin than the other team.

It boils down to whether they could get all 3 products (2928 items in total) for £3.50. I guess we'll never know (and don't care anyway!)

Quote from: Trotterwatch on April 19, 2012, 12:13:49 AM

The thing is surely you needed to take the equipment costs out of the final deal, if you did that it would have been much closer (low fee + setup costs).

The estimate was ridiculous. £3.50 for a hoola hoop, skipping rope and bouncy ball? IF you can buy that gear for that much it'll probably break in 5 minutes. A half decent skipping rope will set you back £6-£7, exercise hoola hoops go for more than a tenner, fuck knows how much a bouncy thing is but I can bet its more than £2. Sugar should of taken this into consideration.

Also, you'd probably look at 20 plus per session. No money in 8

Enemy · « **Reply #211 on:** April 25, 2012, 09:20:04 PM »

Hmmm, looks like the team peddling crap will win this one, Genna's team will have to sell twice as much to make the same profits.

Enemy · « **Reply #212 on:** April 25, 2012, 09:28:58 PM »

this meatballs team is fuckin awful. Bus rides just after lunch time. Worst idea ever.

Circa1892 · « **Reply #213 on:** April 25, 2012, 09:55:06 PM »

Sack them all.

killer_heels · « **Reply #214 on:** April 25, 2012, 10:07:19 PM »

She deserved to be fired.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #215 on:** April 25, 2012, 10:08:45 PM »

Not too hot on the names but either the PM Dowie guy or the goggly eyed twat clearly should have gone tonight. I don't think Katy was particularly good but there were a few worse than her on that task.

I haven't been watching this as closely as other years but sticking my neck out I think Tom (I think - the one who was complaining about the poor quality meat) and Ricky might get quite far, probably with one of the quieter women who have slipped through unnoticed.

Trotterwatch · « **Reply #216 on:** April 25, 2012, 10:11:38 PM »

Do these people never think to check their prices? £5.99 for some shit meatballs and pasta, get to fuck you cheeky bastards. Her idea to try and sell them for even more... well that was good enough to sack her IMO.

waittillmay · « **Reply #217 on:** April 25, 2012, 10:44:57 PM »

£7.99 for that outside a footy match was hillarious.
First time watching the show this series, its better than i thought although tasks past few weeks have been crap.

Libertine · « **Reply #218 on:** April 25, 2012, 10:46:33 PM »

thought it would be one of those shows where the shite product scrapes through but thankfully not. the idiot PM should have gone.

tubby · « **Reply #219 on:** April 26, 2012, 12:22:56 AM »

Azhar looks like he's going to murder someone by the end of this series.

Gutted that Katie has gone, but I don't think Sugar had much of a choice. I would've fired Ian Dowie for being an idiot.

foreveragnome · « **Reply #220 on:** April 26, 2012, 08:45:27 AM »

How Scholes' brother wasn't fired last night I'll never know, he was a complete disaster as PM.

Think Katie went purely cos she'd been in the boardroom twice before. I actually thought going the footy was a good idea, just not charging £5.99!!! If they'd have charged about £2.50/£3 at the football they'd have won.

Enemy · « **Reply #221 on:** April 26, 2012, 08:50:45 AM »

Quote from: Libertine on April 25, 2012, 10:46:33 PM

thought it would be one of those shows where the shite product scrapes through but thankfully not. the idiot PM should have gone.

Was glad a good product actually won, it's a shame Sugar rarely bends the rules because if it was me and the pasta won I'd have told them to get to fuck with their shite, cheap product and say they lost for not fitting the brief.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #222 on:** April 26, 2012, 09:03:35 AM »

Quote from: foreveragnome on April 26, 2012, 08:45:27 AM

Think Katie went purely cos she'd been in the boardroom twice before. I actually thought going the footy was a good idea, just not charging £5.99!!! If they'd have charged about £2.50/£3 at the football they'd have won.

It only cropped up in the boardroom but you’d have thought someone on that team would have checked the kick off time. With a 12.30 start I doubt you’d have too many people craving some ropey meatballs before midday. Then having to move the van at the busiest time of the day wasn't a great plan either. Also the goggly one mentioned the 40k fans there – obviously done his research on Tynecastle there!

Him and the PM both just seem like bullshitters who talk a lot of guff when the spotlight is on them. That Azhar was right last night when he brought up him deflecting things, he was worse than Lampard in that respect.

Pistolero · « **Reply #223 on:** April 26, 2012, 09:06:13 AM »

what

the

fuck?

Sugar seems to be hellbent this series on fucking off anyone with a half a clue / idea / braincell

how did the pasty faced gobshite Paul Scholes not go this week??....Katie could buy and sell everyone in there - particularly him.........smart, funny, sexy as fuck.....gutted shes gone

JerseyKopite · « **Reply #224 on:** April 26, 2012, 09:32:14 AM »

Steven is pretty loatheable.

djibril · « **Reply #225 on:** April 26, 2012, 10:23:27 AM »

Quote from: JerseyKopite on April 26, 2012, 09:32:14 AM

Steven is pretty loatheable.

I think Steven is brilliant entertainment. Loved the way he was trying to push the price up to £8 (as if £5.99 wasn't bad enough), then had a go at Paul Scholes in the boardroom that £5.99 was far too high a price!! Constantly contradicts himself and tries to blame everyone else. Then says at the end he's glad he came back and they should put it behind them and move on lol. I think he's great - definitely won't win but hope he stays in for a while yet purely for entertainment.

Laughed at Sugar suggesting £5.99 sounds more like a transfer fee for a Hearts striker than a price for fast food outside the ground!

kellan · « **Reply #226 on:** April 26, 2012, 11:16:35 AM »

If it was me in the place of Lord Sugar I'd have chosen to ignore the figures entirely and just would have declared Adam's team the losers anyway based on the fact that they decided corned beef meatballs and Morrisons value range tins of tomatoes are gourmet. I don't care how much fresh rosemary Matias(?) put in the recipe, it didn't fit the brief at all.

My only disappointment is that they didn't loose by more than £22.
And only highlight of the show was Lord Sugar's "£5.99...they dont pay that for a striker" line.

JerseyKopite · « **Reply #227 on:** April 26, 2012, 01:31:50 PM »

Quote from: kellan on April 26, 2012, 11:16:35 AM

If it was me in the place of Lord Sugar I'd have chosen to ignore the figures entirely and just would have declared Adam's team the losers anyway based on the fact that they decided corned beef meatballs and Morrisons value range tins of tomatoes are gourmet. I don't care how much fresh rosemary Matias(?) put in the recipe, it didn't fit the brief at all.

My only disappointment is that they didn't loose by more than £22.
And only highlight of the show was Lord Sugar's "£5.99...they dont pay that for a striker" line.

Totally agree. If Adam's team had won despite totally ignoring the brief it would have been a farce. The other team did pretty much everything right.

If it was just about selling any old crap, they could have done burgers and chips and flogged them for 4 quid at the footy. Could have made a killing.

Alan_X · « **Reply #228 on:** April 26, 2012, 01:44:06 PM »

Quote from: Sat1 on April 20, 2012, 07:59:47 AM

The estimate was ridiculous. £3.50 for a hoola hoop, skipping rope and bouncy ball? IF you can buy that gear for that much it'll probably break in 5 minutes. A half decent skipping rope will set you back £6-£7, exercise hoola hoops go for more than a tenner, fuck knows how much a bouncy thing is but I can bet its more than £2. Sugar should of taken this into consideration.

Also, you'd probably look at 20 plus per session. No money in 8

Wholesale price for those would be much lower so they might be able to supply at cost. Depends on the business model but it could work. If the big money is the classes then fine.

Alan_X · « **Reply #229 on:** April 26, 2012, 01:47:47 PM »

Quote from: waittillmay on April 25, 2012, 10:44:57 PM

£7.99 for that outside a footy match was hillarious.
First time watching the show this series, its better than i thought although tasks past few weeks have been crap.

That would have been a bargain along Wembley Way.

Mouth · « **Reply #230 on:** April 26, 2012, 01:55:35 PM »

Quote from: JerseyKopite on April 26, 2012, 09:32:14 AM

Steven is pretty loatheable.

Wonky Rob Brydon innit.

sideshowme · « **Reply #231 on:** April 27, 2012, 01:04:23 AM »

Quote from: Lupin Pooter on April 26, 2012, 01:55:35 PM

Wonky Rob Brydon innit.

isn't that maxi rodriguez?

Guz-kop · « **Reply #232 on:** May 2, 2012, 09:54:02 PM »

Dull episode but Jade what a fucking nightmare. Useless

amir87 · « **Reply #233 on:** May 2, 2012, 09:56:32 PM »

Fucking hell. Sugar is a cock.

RedinExeter · « **Reply #234 on:** May 2, 2012, 09:57:43 PM »

Wrong decision. Again.

Guz-kop · « **Reply #235 on:** May 2, 2012, 09:57:55 PM »

Rubbish as usual from Suralan

Libertine · « **Reply #236 on:** May 2, 2012, 09:59:29 PM »

becoming farcical now. it's obviously all about the business plans and the sackings are unrelated to the tasks and performances.

gritsvanilla · « **Reply #237 on:** May 2, 2012, 10:20:27 PM »

Really is becoming a joke this programme, apparently you can make mistake after mistake, go against every parameter set out by Alan regarding each task and still stay in the process, both this and last week Jade and Ian Dowie have completely ignored Sugar's rules regarding the tasks and yet have both managed to stay on the show.

It's so obviously about the business plan so just do away with the programme and let Sugar choose the best business plan, only need two episodes every series now.

tubby · « **Reply #238 on:** May 2, 2012, 11:23:18 PM »

Just watched tonight's episode. Jade was a massive shambles all the way through.. can't believe she didn't get fired.

Azhar was a moany bastard though.

Sat1 · « **Reply #239 on:** May 3, 2012, 08:39:51 AM »

All about the business plan. Should go back to the old format of giving them a job.