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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1680 on: March 3, 2012, 07:59:49 PM »
It's annoying mate, this was our chance, we won't have a better chance to get into the top 4 for a long long time, Arsenals worst start to a season for over a century, Chelsea's worst season by a mile since the Roman era, and we're still a mile behind them in the league really, what does that say for us honestly? After all the investment we've put in too, if we can't do it when these teams are literally limping through this season with all sorts of problems, how will we do it when these teams are at least twice as strong next season, arghhh.

it is very annoying when you see how bad the 2 teams have been. However, in arsenal's case they have had their best player fit, available and in form all season - we cant say that about Luis and Stevie G and thats been the difference.
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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1681 on: March 3, 2012, 08:01:29 PM »
We're not improved though that's the thing, if we have it's by a couple of points if that, over the course of 3 years and major investment in the last 2 windows that ain't good enough, a point more than this time last season, how many more/less than 2009? Not sure but I know we won't have improved a lot.

We have improved on Roy Hodgson. Or do you want to see Konchesky in the team? Do you want to see us not crossing the half way line? Getting beat by Northampton at home? Rolling over at Goodison Park?

We have improved on the last season under Rafa. For whatever reason, that year was hopeless. Losing to Reading at home, watching Philip Degen running round at the Emirates with his thumb up his arse, being lifeless in important games.

Compared to that we are much better. We aren't great but we are better.

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1682 on: March 3, 2012, 08:01:31 PM »
I dont think Pepe Reina has been the same since Xabi Valero left. He's nowhere near as sharp as he used to be.
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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1683 on: March 3, 2012, 08:02:35 PM »
here's the table http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/tables/

I'd say there's no chance of 4th now - its Arsenal's to lose
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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1684 on: March 3, 2012, 08:02:40 PM »
Chelsea spent poorly on January last season, they won't make that same mistake ths season, bet they spend big again to try to compete with the 2 Manc clubs.

Arsenal ain't really on the decline, they lost their 2 best players, didn't replace them and are still 10 points ahead of us, I'd rather Chelsea get 4th though out of them 2 if I had a choice because I'd imagine Arsenal will be 'harmed' more without the Champions League.

Arsenal didn't lose their 2 best players(as VP is still there) & have had the same issues for years, & have shown no appetite to do anything about them & Chelsea will either be starting with a new manager or with a vastly different squad. 

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1685 on: March 3, 2012, 08:02:52 PM »
I dont think Pepe Reina has been the same since Xabi Valero left. He's nowhere near as sharp as he used to be.

Does seem to have lost a little bit of sharpness. But for all our problems I think Pepe is the very least of them.

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1686 on: March 3, 2012, 08:03:22 PM »
Ha ha come off it, this is beyond Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. We're talking about an investment of over £100m, translating into only a 1 point (ONE POINT!) improvement off last year—you remember, the year where we started off with Hodgson (who, by the way, has lowly WBA sat just 4 points beneath us)—and one of the worst scoring records in all of Europe. Don't tell me about injuries or suspensions or otherwise either, every top club has to cope with that.

Surely the team and the manager must not be absolved of criticism at this point in the season?

A season where we have won a trophy after 6 years. This is a team being rebuilt, it will take time. The team and manager is both absolved as of now because a lot of us can see improvements in the team. Those improvements have not translated into points or goals. There will come a time when those will reflect the improvements if people like you can learn patience. If people like you can understand that sometimes it takes a couple of seasons to rebuild. Surely you can see that we hit the woodwork quite often almost as often as we score. We have missed more penalties than we like and about to set some records of sort if can keep doing it. If we had converted even half of those we would be even on points with Arsenal. Why do you think Liverpool fans which supports its manager like no other was groaning at Hodgson? I love the way Liverpool is playing under Kenny and it much better than what they did under Hodgson. I do not think arguing with you will have any effect except to entrench your opinion but still for the sake of it, those are a few things to try and get across.


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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1687 on: March 3, 2012, 08:03:41 PM »
That's the point for me. Looking back at where we were at the end of last season, it looks like we have not made any progress at all. In fact, it looks like we have gone backwards despite spending quite a lot of money in the summer. Yes, it's a rebuilding-job, but in my view instead of building the steps to the first floor and starting to build that, we've torn down the ground floor only to start anew at the basement. Replacing the concrete foundation with a wooden one while buying some bricks to be lying around for now, because they might be useful in two years time. What we needed in the summer were players who'd
improve us. Downing has so far failed to deliver (despite improving a lot in recent weeks). Adam is solid, but nothing more (especially if he continues trying needless Hollywood-balls all the time). And Henderson is a
good prospect, but has played far too often in my view (mind you, I think he did well today). Craig Bellamy
is the only player we have bought in the summer that has come in and made a difference immediately by
 basically fitting right into the team. It's a shame that he has fitness-problems, because he'd be a great
player to have starting every week.
All that while alienating the likes of Kuyt and Maxi and getting rid of Meireles. None of them are world-beaters, don't get me wrong. However, we HAD them and they played well last season. They contributed to our great form towards the end. I can see why the club would want to replace them sooner or later. I just feel, that we have bought players in the summer, decided that they will replace them and that they'll be playing none matter whether they deliver immediately or not. I just don't understand that philosophy. I'm
not looking for instant success. But I don't understand how you can break something that's not broken,
 because the thing you replace it with might be good or better in a year or two...

I agree with you 100%. This time last year we looked a far better team playing with players (Meireles, maxi and kuty especially) charging into the box and scoring for fun. Suraez was buzzing and creating havoc. Kenny really seemd to have come in and changed the way we played ( pressing high up the field) and also boosted the confidence of the team. Things looked promising. You felt if we added a few quality players (A quality left back, an out and out goalscorer and a creative midfileder) that we could really challange for the top positions not just looking to scrape into the top 4. Since then we have gone backwards and it is really frustrating to hear people say we are some much better off. For me we are so much worse off. We got rid of merelies, we don't play maxi or kuyt ( and i know they are not world beaters but they complemented they way suarez and merelies played) and we
have spent 75m on worse players ( carroll, downing and adam are not good enough, henderson may come good but he looks like he has no interest in scoring, its as if he believes its not his job). So for me we are much worse off, we have spend big on players who have taken us backwards and it looks like kenny is trying to justify this by playing them (all 4 started the cc final when we were atrocious). For me we are going nowhere fast and the buck stops with kenny and commoli. And don't tell me winning the cc final and qualifying for europa is a sign of progress, its not. Birmigham won it last year and where they ended up is not progress.
I think alot of people need to take off the rose tinted glasses they have for dalglish ( yes he is a legend, yes we all love him, yes he lives LFC) but that should not stop us from be as critical of his teams as we have been of roys or rafa'a. And for me all this in a year when arsenal, chelsea, utd have gone backwards. This year was our chance to get into top 4 and we blew it and we need to come out and say that its not good enough...

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1688 on: March 3, 2012, 08:03:57 PM »
Thought our fans were wank today. Was sat in the main stand for the first time this season. I usually sit in 305/304 in the KOP. I couldnt hear the KOP apart from one or two times in the second half. I thought its just the 'smaller' games that our atmosphere is shite for.....I stand mistaken.



It sounded shite from the Kop too!

I usually sit in the 300s or 205/06 but was in 208 today.  I've always said that the sound mustn't carry but it would carry to the sides of the Kop!

Lots of people around me were talking through the game which really annoys me and contributes nothing

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1689 on: March 3, 2012, 08:05:04 PM »
I haven't watched any of the game again, and I'm terrible at analysing defenders. Can someone tell me what Carragher did wrong today?

Disclaimer - Not on a wind-up, nor am I in denial about Carragher's flaws.

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1690 on: March 3, 2012, 08:05:33 PM »
I dont think Pepe Reina has been the same since Xabi Valero left. He's nowhere near as sharp as he used to be.

I'd agree with that. I think he has been below par this season.

Nowhere near being a problem though.
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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1691 on: March 3, 2012, 08:06:06 PM »
Downing is going to be ok I think, he's actually fairly decent most of the time, bar the odd mare, but he seems to be turning the corner, however we have no right winger.

Other than Lucas our central midfield is miles behind the top teams, I include Gerrard in this lot. He was never a central midfielder and with his legs on the wane and his shooting having deserted him it is even more apparent.

Our central midfield (unless we fill it with 3 rendering Downing and Carroll near useless) are unable to press and unable to get up the field to support attacks in general.

We lack a proper goalscorer too.

Just seems that it is essential that some our current players improve significantly. We have no other way out of this. All our chips are on the table in relation to the likes of Carroll and Downing I just don't see how we can shift them and replace them and start all over again. Unless we are willing to start throwing money around like Chelsea etc.

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1692 on: March 3, 2012, 08:07:02 PM »
I dont think Pepe Reina has been the same since Xabi Valero left. He's nowhere near as sharp as he used to be.

Was he to blame for either of the goals then?  Genuine question as I haven't seen the replays yet.

My thoughts on Pepe today were that he must've made a very good save to keep out that chance they had in the second half

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1693 on: March 3, 2012, 08:07:50 PM »
I haven't watched any of the game again, and I'm terrible at analysing defenders. Can someone tell me what Carragher did wrong today?

Disclaimer - Not on a wind-up, nor am I in denial about Carragher's flaws.

Let RVP infront of him for the first goal and just stood trying to grab him and didnt pay any attention to the ball.

For the second, he let RVP stroll off the back of him and the ball got chipped over his head right to RVP who hit it in on the volley unmarked.
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I don't think he works as hard as some people claim. No harder, for example, than Stewart Downing.

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1694 on: March 3, 2012, 08:07:54 PM »
A missed pen, hit the post a couple of times, did well for most parts, Owen Goal scored again, some mistakes, some sloppy play, not enough pace (mainly in the brain), and nobody clinical. I think we've been here before. Loads of corners tho.

Chance has now totally gone for 4th and congrats Arsenal - they've really bullied results. Not teams... results.

Very disappointing.

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1695 on: March 3, 2012, 08:08:24 PM »
I dont think Pepe Reina has been the same since Xabi Valero left. He's nowhere near as sharp as he used to be.

Reina is the same as he's always been - will cost us 4 -5 games a season. I've said it before on here and got slaughtered.

So far, Arsenal, Fulham, Norwich and there's time for him to add a few more before the end of the season.

Never mind though, cos he'll get the golden glove again.

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1696 on: March 3, 2012, 08:09:36 PM »
Reina is the same as he's always been - will cost us 4 -5 games a season. I've said it before on here and got slaughtered.

So far, Arsenal, Fulham, Norwich and there's time for him to add a few more before the end of the season.

Never mind though, cos he'll get the golden glove again.

How did Reina cost us the game?

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1697 on: March 3, 2012, 08:09:37 PM »
Was he to blame for either of the goals then?  Genuine question as I haven't seen the replays yet.

My thoughts on Pepe today were that he must've made a very good save to keep out that chance they had in the second half

The first goal the cross was in a very fuzzy area between goal keeper and defender (he possibly could have been a bit more proactive coming out to meet it , but its 50/50) the other problem was Carra might as well have not been there and RVP had a free header from 5 yards out, not going to miss.

For the 2nd one he got beat on his near post from a great volley from RVP, no defender anywhere near him to apply pressure.

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1698 on: March 3, 2012, 08:09:43 PM »
We have improved on Roy Hodgson. Or do you want to see Konchesky in the team? Do you want to see us not crossing the half way line? Getting beat by Northampton at home? Rolling over at Goodison Park?

We have improved on the last season under Rafa. For whatever reason, that year was hopeless. Losing to Reading at home, watching Philip Degen running round at the Emirates with his thumb up his arse, being lifeless in important games.

Compared to that we are much better. We aren't great but we are better.

We have improved since the Hodgson regime, but you and I could of took over after Roy and improved things, so I'm not using that as a 'positive'.

Improved since Rafa's last season, have we though? If someone could get a league table from 2009/2010 comparing the points we have right now compared to the same time 2 season ago I'd imagine its pretty even, and even if weve improved slightly since then, did you see the team we had then? Go and look at the 11 who started our 2-0 win at Anfield vs Spurs, Rafa had it all against him, and I mean it all, and we've invested so much, especially last January and the summer after it, I know we battered Arsenal today but how much did their first 11 cost today? Did it cost more than what we spent on 3 players... Henderson, Downing and Carroll? Probably, but not much a big distance... Not good enough, yes we won a trophy and its nice, but the main shit is the league, and we've not seen an improvement on not only last season, but the season beforehand in my opinion.
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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1699 on: March 3, 2012, 08:09:47 PM »
Was he to blame for either of the goals then?  Genuine question as I haven't seen the replays yet.

My thoughts on Pepe today were that he must've made a very good save to keep out that chance they had in the second half

No he wasn't, there was a ball width to aim for on his near post and RVP found it with an exquisite volley. The other was an umarked header
from six yards due to slack marking by Carra, which he had no chance with. He made a fine stop to keep Walcott out with his left leg outstretched. Pepe's as good as ever, some people want to moan for the sake of moaning because we lost.
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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1700 on: March 3, 2012, 08:11:53 PM »
I dont think Pepe Reina has been the same since Xabi Valero left. He's nowhere near as sharp as he used to be.

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1701 on: March 3, 2012, 08:12:00 PM »
Reina is the same as he's always been - will cost us 4 -5 games a season. I've said it before on here and got slaughtered.

So far, Arsenal, Fulham, Norwich and there's time for him to add a few more before the end of the season.

Never mind though, cos he'll get the golden glove again.

Best feet, throwing arm and one of the most agile keepers in the league, but we can't say he's the best keeper in the league right now. Far too many errors.

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1702 on: March 3, 2012, 08:12:02 PM »
Downing was NOT playing well. Bloody hell, how many more people are going to swear by this? The truth is he's been so shit for us overall that whenever he plays half-decent people think he's doing well. He was wasteful, AGAIN, today. Bellamy or Maxi (who have both proved to be much more productive) should've come on for him much, much earlier.
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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1703 on: March 3, 2012, 08:12:48 PM »
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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1704 on: March 3, 2012, 08:13:00 PM »
The first goal the cross was in a very fuzzy area between goal keeper and defender (he possibly could have been a bit more proactive coming out to meet it , but its 50/50) the other problem was Carra might as well have not been there and RVP had a free header from 5 yards out, not going to miss.

For the 2nd one he got beat on his near post from a great volley from RVP, no defender anywhere near him to apply pressure.

No he wasn't, there was a ball width to aim for on his near post and RVP found it with an exquisite volley. The other was an umarked header
from six yards due to slack marking by Carra, which he had no chance with. He made a fine stop to keep Walcott out with his left leg outstretched. Pepe's as good as ever, some people want to moan for the sake of moaning because we lost.

Thanks chaps.  I personally can't think of any keeper who I'd rather have in our team (though Jo Hart is very good).

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Re: Liverpool 1- 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1705 on: March 3, 2012, 08:13:03 PM »
Fuck off Reina. That's all I've got to say on the matter.

You're joking,aren't you?

The only one who should 'fuck off' after today's frustration is Carragher.

Van Persie scored the first goal right under his nose and he was kept onside by Carra to snatch the 3 points.

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1706 on: March 3, 2012, 08:14:21 PM »
Reina is the same as he's always been - will cost us 4 -5 games a season. I've said it before on here and got slaughtered.

So far, Arsenal, Fulham, Norwich and there's time for him to add a few more before the end of the season.

Never mind though, cos he'll get the golden glove again.

Are you for real RVP has scored two goals absolutely unchallenged when the ball on both occasions has travelled fifty yards. In what universe is that the Keepers fault. As for the Norwich goal the same fella who lost RVP was beaten all ends up from a cross that travelled again fifty yards with Carragher marking absolutely nobody and caught hopelessly under the flight of the ball.
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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1707 on: March 3, 2012, 08:14:23 PM »
Carling cup win papered over cracks were a very average side! The likes of arsenal and chelsea are nothing to be feared yet were behind them and then comes the other big 3 who in another league so much hard work to be done! :(

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1708 on: March 3, 2012, 08:14:43 PM »
We've won the league, we've won the cup, we've been to Europe too!

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1709 on: March 3, 2012, 08:14:44 PM »
Does anyone remember how many points ahead of Arsenal we were in the early stages of the season when they were having a rough time.

Now look.

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1710 on: March 3, 2012, 08:15:10 PM »
Youre right it will take time - i guess the frustration is just getting to me now!! We are most definitely improved in playing style/chance creation than Woys team and the team in rafa's last season.

but what really frustrates me is that I dont think we've improved that much as a team as this season has has grown. Ive seen LFC teams start slow and then get better as the season goes on as players hit form and mistakes are ironed out. Im just not seeing that now - a big problem is that players arent on form - bans and injuries havent helped but what then about downing and adam - great form last year - but nowhere near as good this year and not had injuries or lengthy bans. I guess you cant make a player get in form so what to do?! Thats why I think a bit of a shot at youth and pace might be a good tonic right now.

Its a shame because weve had some great results - wins away to chelsea, arsenal and everton in the lge and stoke, chelsea, man city in the cup - these are hard to come by in any season so if we could have backed it up at home this season - we could really have been flying. But that is all what-ifs etc.

I also agree - a player of the calibre of Fowler, Rush, Aldo or Torres wouldve made a difference - maybe Santa Comolli brings us a nice present this summer!

Frustrates me no end.  Came out of the game today and I'm grinding me teeth and moaning about losing but then I took stock and thought about the big picture.

We've played a team that were above us in the table.  7 points above us with a game in hand.  Fair enough, they aren't the best Arsenal team I've ever seen (they aren't the worst either!) but they were above us.  Ok, they had a few absentees but our absentees were probably the more significant.  Show me a team in this country who would not be weaker with the loss of players the caliber of Gerrard and Lucas from their midfield?  There isn't one.

Then ignore the scoreline.  Pretend you watched the entire match with just the goals cut out.  You didn't know the score and just had the benefit of the stats and by watching the vast majority of the game minus the goals.  Someone then says the game finished 2-1 and asked you who won?  99.9% of people would say Liverpool.  Not because they were fans but because we were so much better all over the field.....with the exception of up front!

Arsenal have created 4 opportunities and score twice.  We created christ knows how many and it took an own goal for us to take the lead.  It is hardly brain surgery is it?

I'm a great believer in saying you get what you work for and yes, the fact that the problem with scoring goals has occurred all season suggests something isn't quite right.  I've been watching Liverpool since our manager was in the latter years of his career as a player.  It's more than a lot of people but probably half of what some have been.  I don't pretend to know a lot about football - some will know less - some will know more.  So when I can see the problem do you believe that Kenny can't?

He knows fully what the problems are and he will make the decisions that suit Liverpool Football Club - not himself.  He knows who is showing their full potential and he knows who isn't.  He'll deal with it and, mark my words, he will get it right

Looking at our home form I look at the games versus City, United, Spurs and Arsenal.  Even by taking my rose tinted spectacles off for a minute, its difficult to understand why those are above us based on those four games, we have been superior than them and, again, that includes City.  We have 3 points from 12 and few would argue against us if we'd have taken 10 or even 12 from them.  Even the games versus Swansea, Norwich, Blackburn and QPR - true, we didn't play well but nobody could have grumbled if we'd have 10 points from thise games.

It's a fine line.  We play crap, nick it and we're on for top 4, this thread is 23 pages long and the mods have an easy time.  We outplay Arsenal, fall to a sucker punch and suddenly we are poor and the mods are more handy with the delete buttons

Frustrating?  Yes.  End of the line?  Definately not

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1711 on: March 3, 2012, 08:15:45 PM »
Was he to blame for either of the goals then?  Genuine question as I haven't seen the replays yet.

My thoughts on Pepe today were that he must've made a very good save to keep out that chance they had in the second half

Perhaps should've done better with the winning goal. Beaten at the near post.
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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1712 on: March 3, 2012, 08:16:01 PM »
Guardian: "If I ever find myself up against the wall facing a firing squad, I pray that the shooters are all wearing Liverpool shirts," writes Justin Kavanagh, in an email entitled "Poor execution".

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yes, fucking hilarious that. Anymore we can laugh at?

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1713 on: March 3, 2012, 08:16:33 PM »
Perhaps should've done better with the winning goal. Beaten at the near post.

Could have been expecting it to go across him. I was, as it was similar to RVPs goal vs Everton at the Emirates.
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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1714 on: March 3, 2012, 08:17:22 PM »
here's the table http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/tables/

I'd say there's no chance of 4th now - its Arsenal's to lose

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1715 on: March 3, 2012, 08:17:42 PM »
Pepe Bashing is embarrassing, as if it has come to this, ehat an embarrassment to the club and the fan base to turn o Pepe, kept us in it wit ha couple of outstanding saves today and does so almost every game he plays for us. if we had defended properly then, the cross wouldnt have come in, or after that had happened perhaps the center back marking RVP(Carra) would have tried to head the ball rather than watch hom score. Perhaps the 2 nd wasnt great, but to be fair he smashed it in with precision and power again if we had a capable center back marking RVP( Again it was Carra) then a goal would have not been conceded. A great great goalkeeper who i wouldnt swap for anyone

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1716 on: March 3, 2012, 08:18:18 PM »
Does seem to have lost a little bit of sharpness. But for all our problems I think Pepe is the very least of them.

I think the chance conversion at the other end is increasing the pressure at the back

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1717 on: March 3, 2012, 08:18:25 PM »
yes, fucking hilarious that. Anymore we can laugh at?
after the way we lost today all of us could use a smile or two.
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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1718 on: March 3, 2012, 08:18:52 PM »
Could have been expecting it to go across him. I was, as it was similar to RVPs goal vs Everton at the Emirates.

It was a great finish no doubt, but it wasn't unstoppable if Pepe had been positioned where he should have been. He's not been at his best this year. He alluded to it himself back in October. Still a great keeper though.

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Re: Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal. Full time ( Kosielny OG, Van Persie 2 )
« Reply #1719 on: March 3, 2012, 08:19:20 PM »

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